Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Marlon, If you think the WISP business is similar to a doctor or dentist or plumber, you are very mistaken. The best advice I have ever heard actually came from the son of a very wealthy doctor in our area. He sold his son "find something that isn't trading your time for money". I heard that

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Allocations?

2009-05-25 Thread 3-dB Networks
Charles is right 100%, and he is being as proactive as any VAR (including DR and ourselves... Charles did a WiNOG on this not to long ago) trying to figure the mess out so you can get the money (hopefully you'll spend it with us right!). Here is what I know (and I've done more research and had

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Allocations?

2009-05-25 Thread Matt Liotta
At the end of the day, the agencies giving out the money have to give out a lot of money in a very short period of time. To achieve this they plan on dividing up the allocations across a variety of other entities for help as well as allocating large sums to individual companies. This means

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Allocations?

2009-05-25 Thread Dustin Jurman
WISPA did have a group of people that were attending meetings and trying to sway policy. The time schedule has just been published and hopefully rules and definitions will be firmed up shortly. WISPA could start delivering a facts sheet, Timeline and useful resources. WISPA should get vendors

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Hi Marlon, I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
In that respect you are correct. But I stand by my statement that many successful business people work long hours and don't always take 2 days per week off. Or they are always on some level of stand-by. You are very correct that our income is much more predictable and isn't dependant upon us

Re: [WISPA] Starting a wisp - required capital

2009-05-25 Thread Rick Kunze
On 5/24/2009 9:25 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'd start MUCH smaller and grow organically though. You should be able to start with less than $25k and keep the rest for operating and unexpected expenses. I tend to agree, and have been at this just as long. The luckiest thing I did was to

Re: [WISPA] Starting a wisp - required capital

2009-05-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
LOL Careful what you wish for! marlon - Original Message - From: Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Starting a wisp - required capital On 5/24/2009 9:25 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'd

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less than $500. How do you ever expect to get away from having to do personal guarantees if you don't operate like a "real" business? Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: One more thing. I don't agree with your definitions per

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread RickG
Charles, I agree with you on these points. In fact, I mentioned them to keep the discussion fair. The main point I was making is that local labor resources with knowledge and experience is difficult if not impossible to find. Of course, that is an age old issue for businesses everywhere. As far

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread RickG
Charles, I replied to your previous response so I wont be redundant here. It appears we are in sync in thought. As a previous senior manager at several companies large small, I've hired/fired my share of people. The human factor is huge. One of my favorite books is The eMyth Revisited

[WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread RickG
Ha! Another interesting topic! In the past, when doing business for myself, I legally filed as a sole-proprietor. When I got into the WISP business, for a multitude of reasons, I became an S-Corp. After filing my taxes, it seems to be much simpler and possibly more advantageous to just be a

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread RickG
Ah yes, the power if recurring revenue. A benefit of replicating your work with other humans and/or devices (I prefer the later). A better path to making money that trading your time for a direct wage. This is one of the reasons I got into this business. However, at the early stages, your are

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Beehive 58DP

2009-05-25 Thread Matt Jenkins
Lastmilegear.com should have them. Jayson Baker wrote: Anyone used the 58DP from WB? Anyone have them in stock? Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread RickG
Which is one of the many reasons I incorporated. But, due to the financial industries turmoil, they are now requiring personal guarantees. -RickG On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less than $500. How do

Re: [WISPA] How to stabilize Pole for 30 Drum Antenna?

2009-05-25 Thread Matt Jenkins
Gino, I had a 3' Radiowaves dish installed (for almost a year) on top of a 10ft 4.5 mast in a similar situation. I used the clamp linked below to attach it to the railing. http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=482468eventGroup=4eventPage=1 - Matt Gino Villarini wrote:

Re: [WISPA] How to stabilize Pole for 30 Drum Antenna?

2009-05-25 Thread Charles
Gah! An on topic thread about tactical operational aspects of a wisp!!! :) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:17:53 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to stabilize

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread George Rogato
In Oregon the filing costs is nothing to incorporate. Of course a lawyer will charge what they will to fill out the forms. One thing the sole proprietor is missing out on not being an s or c corp is the tax benefit associated with social security. Of course thee is more work to be a corporation,

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread reader
Charles, you really should investigate the business sizes out there. Without doing any research today, I'd say there were more one man band businesses out there than any other type, unless you're going to lump a lot of types together, like all the 2-100 employee businesses. And there's a lot

Re: [WISPA] Starting a wisp - required capital

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Don't believe anyone says at this stage in the game about who is getting funding. They haven't published rules or applications, much less accepted anything. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From:

Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Hammett
A sole proprietorship is different than a bland proprietorship My accountant did everything for my incorporation for... $800? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer