Thought some folks might be interested in this presentation given at
NANOG meeting this week.
*Abstract: *
This presentation will address planning and deployment for a 50Km link
between the City of San Francisco's fiber network and the Farallon
Islands off the coast of San Francisco in
Since rural broadband can be a tough proposition sometimes in terms of
making a profit, businesses that serve these areas may require some creative
thinking and partnerships. WISPs often partner with municipalities to obtain
an anchor tenant and get a break on site rentals. Are there other
What will any radio do when it's channel gets jammed with noise.
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:
Hi,
I would still like to know what it's going to do when an entire
polarization gets jammed with noise? Will the radio still pass traffic?
Or will there be
My question (still in topic I think) is will the one chain that's still viable
become a duplex channel and still keep passing traffic? Or are the chains just
a one way street?
Greg
On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Jayson Baker wrote:
What will any radio do when it's channel gets jammed with
Both chains are both two-way streets
2x2 MIMO
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
My question (still in topic I think) is will the one chain that's still
viable become a duplex channel and still keep passing traffic? Or are the
chains just a one way street?
(6) 5700BH20 P8 and P9 models : $400 a link
(2) 5200BH20 P8 models : $350 a link
(3) 2450AP 1 P10 2 P9's : $400.00 each (NEW)
(3) 5200AP P8 models: $175.00 each
(1) 5250AP P10 model : $400.00 (NEW)
All units have been tested and work properly.
Will ask a bulk price for the lot of : $3250.00 if
I'm not sure if it's related or not.
But we've always given free or deep discounts to libraries, fire stations,
city government etc. Basically nearly any locally funded taxing authority.
That's always been our way to give back to the community.
It's also probably been helpful when we've gone
So you're using R1soft to backup the guests as if they were real
machines? Not using the vmx and vmdk?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.”
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Well to help stabilize our environment from an RF stand point, about 4 1/2
years ago eight providers in our area (we being one of them) whose
coverage either bordered on each other or overlapped a bit got together
and formed a co-op. We agreed not to build towers in each other's existing
coverage
Thank You Courtney, I noticed NANOG49 was sponsored by NETFLIX this year...
What was the general opinion of them by the membership?
And did they , NETFLIX, have any news or announcements?
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
yes
I run R1soft inside the vm instance itself.
Absolutely Awesome.
w/ Cpanel clients can even start their own restorations!
On Jun 18, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
So you're using R1soft to backup the guests as if they were real
machines? Not using the vmx and vmdk?
Josh
I've got a bunch of stuff we are trying to get rid of that is left over in
our warehouse after the sale:
~50 DSS style mounts - some with long arms, about 20 still in the box they
were shipped to us in, another 10 or so that were never assembled and the
rest are used. - $150 + shipping for all
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First off, I'd like to say hello to the list. Mike Hammett pointed
me at it a couple of weeks ago, after I posted a wireless-related
question (wireless in the trees) at isp-clec, and he reposted it
here. This list is a lot more active... I've been reading the past
few months archives and
I have a VersaTech/Tellion GePon unit for sale. If you are interested
please contact off list, We paid over $3000 for it. It can do 128 subs.
We used it for testing but we decided on a ethernet design.
I can send more pictures, and info if you are interested.
Model is: EP-3108B
-Cameron
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We have done a number of deployments with this.
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I would forward this to the motor...@afmug.com list.
ryan
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
I have a VersaTech/Tellion GePon unit for sale. If you are interested
please contact off list, We paid over $3000 for it. It can do 128 subs.
We used it for
On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
MicroTik says they have a meshing protocol, HWMPplus, that provides
Layer 2 (this is critical; we're not building a Layer 3 network, and
with this many hops, latency and loss are critical) dynamic meshing,
essentially applying a routing
At 6/18/2010 04:47 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote:
On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
(I wrote:)
MicroTik says they have a meshing protocol, HWMPplus, that provides
Layer 2 (this is critical; we're not building a Layer 3 network, and
with this many hops, latency and loss are
Look at one of our vendor members, higher cost than roll your own, but
everything in one box, server, radius, etc., etc. It may prove to be a
lower cost for a difficult start up and difficult area, leading to better
customer satisfaction and word of mouth advertising, faster ROI and
penetration.
Those are not used CB3's anymore, those are power pingers!!!
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 12:59 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] For Sale
I've got a bunch of stuff
Hi Fred,
In my opinion there is bit of an oxymoron in your original question /
thought..
On-one hand you are looking for a Mesh product, which implies a self
configuring / self healing product... but you are also pointing out that
this is not going to work as a whole and you will have to
At 6/18/2010 05:49 PM, Chuck Profito wrote:
Look at one of our vendor members, higher cost than roll your own, but
everything in one box, server, radius, etc., etc. It may prove to be a
lower cost for a difficult start up and difficult area, leading to better
customer satisfaction and word of
A couple of more folks to look at
Keeping in mind that they type of a Mesh Solution you are looking for is
more of an 'integration' of off-the shelf products..
If you wish to roll your own these folks can provide you with Mesh
Software to run on your choice of single board
At 6/18/2010 05:52 PM, you wrote:
Hi Fred,
In my opinion there is bit of an oxymoron in your original question /
thought..
On-one hand you are looking for a Mesh product, which implies a self
configuring / self healing product... but you are also pointing out that
this is not going to work as
Even mesh networks have to be engineered, especially if you want it to work
well. One could just scatter mesh radios and that would give self-configuration
and self-healing but the performance wouldn't be good.
To get self-healing you have to have redundancy and then you start getting
into
Hi!
Typically most folks think of a deployment as one (Mesh... turn on, let
it self connect / self configure etc) or the other .. Engineered Link
Engineered Routing Protocol
Are you sure this is what you are needing ? You can very easily do a
hybrid approach.. where you have
By the way - I forgot to say that OLSR.org does run on Mikrotik
(with some minor tricks on getting a pkg installed ;-)
Are you sure this is what you are needing ? You can very easily do a
hybrid approach.. where you have an Engineered Back Bone Links (these
could be fully meshed,
Are you seeing benefits from the mesh approach that you wouldn't get from
backhaul/APs? Doesn't the mesh gear usually have omni-directional antennas
which can be problematic in an RF polluted environment.
Greg
On Jun 18, 2010, at 6:41 PM, L. Aaron Kaplan wrote:
I agree with Faisal here...
Greg,
With all due respect, while you statements may be accurate for
particular situations, but they are totally inaccurate for other situations.
These Generic statements do not hold true for today Mesh networks.
e.g. You can deploy a Ruckus Wireless Mesh, (they now have both indoor
outdoor
Really depends on what you are trying to accomplish..
e.g. There are a number of large mesh networks (or mess-networks)
using Meraki / Open Mesh etc...
(in these cases, the Mesh is used for being able to provide access to
end users, while the Internet Connection is feed at multiple
At 6/18/2010 07:21 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
Are you seeing benefits from the mesh approach that you wouldn't get
from backhaul/APs? Doesn't the mesh gear usually have
omni-directional antennas which can be problematic in an RF polluted
environment.
There's more than one type of mesh out there,
Hi Aaron,
Any one installed OSLR on Ubiquiti M Series ? Any info / instructions
on that ?
Thanks.
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net
On 6/18/2010 7:12 PM, L. Aaron
that's a few radio hops away from anywhere. And that's one reason why per-hop
latency is all-critical
To put things in context... from what we have seen typical latency between
radios (for a single link) are between 1ms to 2ms... The Moto Canopy are an
exception they have much higher
On Jun 18, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote:
Are you seeing benefits from the mesh approach that you wouldn't get from
backhaul/APs? Doesn't the mesh gear usually have omni-directional antennas
which can be problematic in an RF polluted environment.
Yes, note two things please:
1) you
On Jun 18, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
Hi Aaron,
Any one installed OSLR on Ubiquiti M Series ? Any info / instructions
on that ?
I will check that - but we for sure installed it on other AirOS systems.
In general (this is one of the big advantage of OLSR being on layer 3) ,
I'm with you, pal.
Bob-
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:51 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question #1 of the Day
I'm not sure if it's related or not.
This may be our last chance to survive in this business.
I know what my position is, and it should be clear to most of you.
However, the FCC needs to hear from the smaller operators, and from small
business saying Hands off! We can't afford your wishes. And they
need to hear it from the
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