How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's
dealers. People who route their networks will have a fraction of the
problems I have but I have to admit the excuse of must be your
employees or that never happens got old about 20 outages ago. Today
I had 8 major outages, 4
For the large number of us who use Mikrotiks and haven't seen the
problems you are having, it just has me suspicious that the problems
you've seen with the Mikrotiks are a result of an indirect problem. Then
again maybe the Mikrotik's just don't do well in a large bridge environment?
On
It looks like they are doing the same to you!I like 1 for the burst,seems
to work very well. Jason
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On 17 September 2010 04:27, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote:
How my day ended, I really don't mean to slight Mikrotik or it's dealers.
People who route their networks will have a fraction of the problems I have
but I have to admit the excuse of must be your employees or that
If it¹s all bridged then ARP tables fill up, memory runs low, and all
kinds of things happen. I know Forbes has mentioned a bridged network on
here before. I would put your money into routing the network and then get
rid of the mikrotiks if they are still problems after the routing is
You know its funny I read these experiences with different types of gear,
mind you we have never used Mikrotik for SM's to the customers but we do use
them exclusively for other things.
However we have similar problems with ANY of the gear we have purchased over
the years. Most the most problems
Forbes, I understand your feelings and I hope your vacation is better than you
expect. My recommendation is you have good people they can do it. Have
someone hide your laptop and leave your cellphone in your room and go enjoy
your vacation. Take an hour at the end of the day and check up on
I would have to agree...you could switch to all UBNT, but whose to say
they will handle a large bridging network any better? I think before
making any kind hardware change, you need to convert the network into a
routed environment to control traffic.
On 09/17/2010 08:39 AM, Justin Wilson
Time to route. I can't imagine having my entire network bridged. We
see problem on the same towers between AP's because there is no
routing between them.
Spend your time re-doing your network to routed.
Travis
Microserv
On 9/17/2010 2:27 AM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
How my day ended, I really
At 9/17/2010 08:52 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
I would have to agree...you could switch to all UBNT, but whose to
say they will handle a large bridging network any better? I think
before making any kind hardware change, you need to convert the
network into a routed environment to control traffic.
That is the way my network is setup using a cisco router at the core. No
problems that I am aware of.
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On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 9/17/2010 08:52 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
I would have to agree...you could switch to all UBNT,
So where in the OSHA regs does it say that free climbing is okay because it
takes too much time to move safety lines every few feet? I'm looking..
Don't see it...
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, September 16,
It isn't. Above 6 feet you must have fall restraint of 5000 lbs+ or a SF2.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
So where in the OSHA regs does it say that
Perhaps the guy is actually self employed. Still, I'd rather he used more
safety. Apparently the video was pulled because he was afraid he'd get
fewer future jobs from showing a lack of safety.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:12:33AM -0400, Robert West wrote:
So where in the OSHA regs does it say
It¹s still there. Lots of places picked up on it and it was pulled by
some. I have worked with a lot of tower climbers. Some are downright OCD
about safety (to the point that in itself is dangerous) to those who barely
wear a harness. My thing is you can¹t fall off the tower if you are
Not entirely correct
fall restraint is 2500 i think - the 5000/SF2 is for fall arrest. You need one
or the other - not both. And, just because you have your lanyard for fall
arrest hooked down by your feet doesn't mean your following the rules or are
safe either :)
There's lots of
Keep in mind that if your Y lanyard is at your feet and you fall 12
feet you're going to get 1000lbs+ of force (with the assumption is
isn't already shock loaded). NOT comfortable.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17,
Just took the Comtrain class last week. 3000 for restraint, 5000 for
arrest.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Scott Carullo
sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
Not entirely correct
fall
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 08:39 -0400, Justin Wilson wrote:
If it’s all bridged then ARP tables fill up, memory runs low, and
all kinds of things happen. I know Forbes has mentioned a bridged
network on here before. I would put your money into routing the
network and then get rid of the
At 9/17/2010 09:36 AM, Jeremie Chism wrote:
That is the way my network is setup using a cisco router at the
core. No problems that I am aware of.
Glad to hear it's working. My plan is to put a router at the core
and run layer 2 beyond. How flexible is RouterOS for setting up lots
of VLANs?
Just wondering about the cost of these training classes and how long
are they?
On 9/17/2010 9:47 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Just took the Comtrain class last week. 3000 for restraint, 5000 for
arrest.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 11:29 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
Glad to hear it's working. My plan is to put a router at the core and
run layer 2 beyond. How flexible is RouterOS for setting up lots of
VLANs?
VERY flexible.
Basic 2 day 900
Advanced 3 day 1300
Trainer 4 day 2200 (IIRC)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Data Technology w...@dtisp.com wrote:
Just wondering about the cost of these training classes and how
Sounds to me like they are not familiar with RouterOS.
Mikrotik's RouterOS does just about everything that you can imagine in
a layer 2 and layer 3 network device. It does not perform all of
these tasks flawlessly, but the platform is more then usable. Just
need to watch out for the gotchas.
I have been throughly impressed with the RMA process at Ubiquiti. I had
some blown up Bullets and they processed the RMA very quickly and had
new units back to me within a few weeks. After dealing with the
extremely long RMA process that Tranzeo has, it's refreshing to see a
company like
I agree.
Though I don't know how Tranzeo was, I just threw them on the ground
and put up Mikrotik. Engenius was about as enjoyable as getting my
tooth pulled...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:51 PM,
Ubiquiti used to be hit and miss with RMA's, they have improved the
process over time.
Regards
Michael Baird
I have been throughly impressed with the RMA process at Ubiquiti. I had
some blown up Bullets and they processed the RMA very quickly and had
new units back to me within a few weeks.
At 9/17/2010 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Sounds to me like they are not familiar with RouterOS.
Mikrotik's RouterOS does just about everything that you can imagine in
a layer 2 and layer 3 network device. It does not perform all of
these tasks flawlessly, but the platform is more then usable.
Several threads have suggests Mikrotik over Vyatta. Cheaper and
better. I have not used Vyatta.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 9/17/2010 12:39 PM,
Isn't Vyatta for the x86 free?
I'm not familiar with OpenWRT, but between dd-WRT and RouterOS it's no contest.
RouterOS wins.
Greg
On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Several threads have suggests Mikrotik over Vyatta. Cheaper and
better. I have not used Vyatta.
Josh
I guess you're right, appears it is free:
http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/index.php
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
Isn't Vyatta for the x86 free?
I'm not
At 9/17/2010 01:51 PM, Greg wrote:
Isn't Vyatta for the x86 free?
I'm not familiar with OpenWRT, but between dd-WRT and RouterOS it's
no contest. RouterOS wins.
Vyatta sells prepackaged routers at a much larger size than MikroTik,
and should even support 10G Ethernet uplinks. Whether their
Vyatta has a cool product line. Their open source version is free. They
have a paid product that is much more full-featured. They make most of
their money from their support contracts.
Jeff
ImageStream
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
We use vyatta a great bit -
if you want any advice for it - hit me up offlist.
Microtik is $$$ vyatta can be - but their opensource is FREE
really nice application.
On Sep 17, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
Vyatta has a cool product line. Their open source version is
Yes, the RMA turnaround time has been impressive.
Frank Keeney
http://www.wlanparts.com
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On Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:06 AM
Ubiquiti used to be hit and miss with RMA's, they have improved the
process over time.
Thanks to Justin Wilson who helped format the WISPA Classified Ads page
http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 so that the content is now at the top.
Respectfully,
Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 WISPA Office
Skype: rick.harnish.
rharn...@wispa.org
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single
pol to dual pol?
Chris,
I have done this numerous times with Radiowaves Dishes. I don't know about
Pac Wireless, but I would assume you could order a dual pol feedhorn from
any of the distributors.
Thanks,
Rick
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 14:22 -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
Vyatta sells prepackaged routers at a much larger size than MikroTik,
and should even support 10G Ethernet uplinks
I have these for Mikrotik.
. Whether their flavor
of Linux does anything to make this possible that RouterOS
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com wrote:
At 9/17/2010 01:51 PM, Greg wrote:
Isn't Vyatta for the x86 free?
There is a DL for it.
I'm not familiar with OpenWRT, but between dd-WRT and RouterOS it's
no contest. RouterOS wins.
Exactly, there is little
MTs code is completely closed.
---
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of
I would love to know too. I have a 2ft dish pac wireless knockoff (so
I was told) that I want to go dual pol with.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
Chris,
I have done this numerous times with Radiowaves Dishes. I don't know about
Pac Wireless, but I
Yep.
---
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS
-Original
Please contact me off-list if you need some larger MT. We also have
multi-port 10GigE, but you won't have to run a Bata version.
---
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services
Yes, wisp-router.com usually has them. You just unscrew the 4 screws around
the dipole and screw in the dual pol feedhorn.
Chris
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From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; motor...@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010
Fooies. Mine are not like that. The feed passes through the dish, then
a large nut screws down over it, leaving a bulkhead N
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Chris Hudson ch...@htswireless.com wrote:
Yes, wisp-router.com usually has them. You just unscrew the 4 screws around
the dipole and
Exactly!
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:16 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Climb video
It isn't. Above 6 feet you must have fall restraint of
I am looking for WISP operators who have been interested in applying for RUS
Loans but did not apply or could not apply because Open Range had previously
be awarded a $267,000,000 loan covering areas that you would have sought
loan funds for. I need these operators to contact me as soon as
I think they figured out that the cost of a bad and argumentative RMA
process is greater than a smooth one.
I have enough frustration and the UBNT RMA process is good for my mood.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
Here is the territories Open Range was awarded Loan funding for.
http://www.openrangecomm.com/markets.html
From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:37 PM
To: memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List';
Here is a better map of pending and approved RUS Loan projects. If you
adjust the timeline from 2/11/2008 to 5/13/2008 using the 3m Preset, you can
see all the areas that Open Range receive approval for.
http://broadbandsearch.sc.egov.usda.gov/AllStatesMap.aspx
From: motor...@afmug.com
To further clarify this request. The Wall Street Journal is looking for
operators who would have applied for RUS Loan funds but were not able to
because the RUS had previously awarded funding to Open Range in March, 2008.
Peter Pratt from Stimulating Broadband broke the story and the WSJ reporter
That's how mine are as well.
On 9/17/2010 4:26 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
Fooies. Mine are not like that. The feed passes through the dish, then
a large nut screws down over it, leaving a bulkhead N
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Chris Hudsonch...@htswireless.com wrote:
Yes,
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone
know if you
Odd. I was sure they won some funding out here but they are not listed
on the map. Someone names Stelera wireless is. I might be thinking of
spectrum that was won.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote:
To further clarify this request. The Wall Street Journal
Since your dishes are older most likely the dual polarity horn will not fit
without cutting out a notch for the other N connector to fit thru the hole.
Newer pac dishes have this notch already there. We've had to do this on
quite a few upgrades this summer.
Eric
On Sep 17, 2010 3:37 PM, Chris
Bruce,
Keyon may have been awarded a BIP Broadband Stimulus Grant by the RUS
recently.
Rick
From: motor...@afmug.com [mailto:motor...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Robertson
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:46 PM
To: motor...@afmug.com
Cc: Rick Harnish; memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA
Have some pictures of this? I looked at my normal supplier and Google
images but did not see the dual pol feed.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Eric Merkel ejmerkel.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Since your dishes are older most likely the dual polarity horn will not fit
without cutting out a notch
http://uncommonpics.com/pic-3481-A-real-island-house
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The google pic brought back a dream I had once but the wire nightmare pic
brought me back to reality.
VOIP project with Wal-Mart... Swap 21's
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
One of my people sent me that, asking if the wireless was mine. I have
some odd installs but nothing that is a island of its own.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
The google pic brought back a dream I had once but the wire nightmare pic
brought me
Funny Friday?
An oldie but a goodie. Google Street view weirdness...
http://oddee.com/item_96965.aspx
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:05 PM
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