Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-26 Thread Francois D. Menard
You do not need to be multihomed, just need to demonstrate intent to be multihomed... And show need for 400+ IP's -- fmen...@xittel.net On 2010-06-25, at 17:21, Alan Bryant a...@gtekcommunications.com wrote: We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting more from our

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-26 Thread Alan Bryant
Apparently I talked with the wrong. Person or things have changed. ARIN told me that I needed to be multihomed or show the need for a /20. On Jun 26, 2010 6:32 AM, Francois D. Menard fmen...@xittel.net wrote: You do not need to be multihomed, just need to demonstrate intent to be multihomed...

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-26 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four222 The smallest you can request is a /22 if multihomed. https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#two7 It appears they have changed the definition. It used to include a section on going to be multihomed in 30 days or some bit. If not multihomed, the

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
If you're getting your IPs from ARIN and are running out, clearly you can justify another block. Is there not enough time for this? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Alan Bryant
We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said. Anyway, we haven't run out yet, I'm just trying to get an idea and plan for what we will do if we run out on a

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 6/25/2010 2:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote: We do not have them from ARIN, but we are in the process of getting more from our upstream. ARIN will not give us any until we are multi-homed or have at least a /20 I think they said. Getting new

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
That's where PPPoE (dhcp probably would as well) and extra addresses come in. When a tower runs out of a subnet, you can just add another subnet, or move to a larger one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/25/2010 4:21 PM, Alan Bryant wrote: We do

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Travis Johnson
It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a /18 without too much trouble. A year ago, we started the process to get another block. This took over a month, with over 30 emails back and forth, and

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 6/25/2010 2:43 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: It's not that easy anymore. Seven years ago when we applied to get our first ARIN block, it took about 2-3 days and some paperwork. We got a /18 without too much trouble. A year ago, we

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I think you mean Ford? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IP_address_blocks Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Dang... I thought I was losing my mind, because your list didn't include MB. However, after doing a search I found this... http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/02/13/where-did-all-the-ip-numbers-go-the-us-department-of-defense-has-them/ Mercedes actually goes by Cap debis css. I knew MB had a /8,

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Cap Debis CCS (Mercedes-Benz) CCS not CSS you computer person you =P Clearly some of them are real dicks. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” ---

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
I think it's more alarming that Interop has a /8. Something that's only open 4 times a year needs 16 million IPs? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 6/25/2010 5:03 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think you mean Ford?

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
It's like Motorola with Canopy. Bureaucracy creates a lot of overhead :/ On 6/25/10, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: I think it's more alarming that Interop has a /8. Something that's only open 4 times a year needs 16 million IPs? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Network Redesign

2010-06-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Just in case a DHCP server goes crazy at the show... You can never be too careful you know... Travis Mike Hammett wrote: I think it's more alarming that Interop has a /8. Something that's only open 4 times a year needs 16 million IPs? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions