Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-31 Thread Blair Davis
not really capable of dealing with high end brick or concrete. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extens

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
ksllc.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick? I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor). 've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable s

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread RickG
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal down and running the screws through it. Also, stay above the soffit. I always get the home owners permission

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Mark McElvy
: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only option. We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that. Never had a leak. People have

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
or 30ft mast on roof peak with guy wires. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only option. We put down silicone then run the mounting screws though that. Never had a leak. People have been

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Blair Davis
mast on roof peak with guy wires. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread RickG
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread Mark McElvy
, August 30, 2009 6:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions That is a lot of questions but I bet I can answer with one word. Terrain. Brian Josh Luthman wrote: Wow that's a lot of extra work per install! How high/far are your APs and what band are you

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread RickG
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We mount to the roof when we have to. Last resort but there are times when it's the only option. We put down silicone

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-30 Thread RickG
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On        Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer        Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM        To: WISPA General List        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions        We mount to the roof when we have to.  Last resort but there are times

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread Josh Luthman
General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick?  I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor).  've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread Chuck Hogg
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal down and running the screws through it. Also, stay above the soffit. I always get

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread Josh Luthman
Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Ya

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Hammett
, August 29, 2009 8:35 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We have Dewalt Cordless Hammer Drills that I have used that get thru Brick, Mortar, Foundation, etc. Have had the same ones in service for 2+ yrs, only had to get new batteries every 1

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread Josh Luthman
-- From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:35 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We have Dewalt Cordless Hammer Drills that I have used that get thru Brick, Mortar

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread RickG
: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick?  I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor).  've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage. On 8/28/09, Steve Barnes st

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread RickG
, August 28, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Ya, sometimes you just have to mount on roof. Last resort of course. I was trained by career satellite installers. The trick is putting seal down and running the screws through it. Also, stay above

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread RickG
wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions We have Dewalt Cordless Hammer Drills that I have used that get thru Brick, Mortar, Foundation, etc.  Have had the same ones in service for 2+ yrs, only had to get new batteries every 1-2 years.  (funny part is one of them

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-29 Thread Chuck Hogg
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 5:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions A Bosch plug in hammerdrill beats a DeWalt cordless hammerdrill any day. I had to put about 100 or so (maybe more

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Tripods like roof hole making tripods? On 8/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote: I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and 10 ft masts.  Channel master.  Tripods are $18 and masts are $11.  We

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Robert West
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I think the bottom horizontal line is the base of the standard powmount - but the top

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Steve Barnes
] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don't! Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no matter if the roof is 40 years

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I have a big problem with making holes in a roof. I just don't! Reason is, any drip or drop then becomes the internet guys fault no matter if the roof is 40 years old and missing half the shingles already. Too many

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
of dealing with high end brick or concrete. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick? I

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread RickG
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick?  I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor).  've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Luthman
@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions What's so bad about brick? I would imagine there is lags made for it (not the mortor). 've always used the saufet ?sp? And gutter to tuck/hide the cable so there is no damage. On 8/28/09

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-28 Thread RickG
not really capable of dealing with high end brick or concrete. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

[WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Michael Baird
As we get into more and more installs, we are discovering installations where we just need a little more height, 5-10 ft. or so. Currently the majority of our installs are roof mount via a dish type screw in mount, or antenna tower mount. I'm looking for suggestions on additional mounting

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Rice
, 2009 9:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions As we get into more and more installs, we are discovering installations where we just need a little more height, 5-10 ft. or so. Currently the majority of our installs are roof mount via a dish type

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
poles over 10 feet or with high winds, I used some guy wires. That worked really well. -- From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Mount

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
27, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions As we get into more and more installs, we are discovering installations where we just need a little more height, 5-10 ft. or so. Currently the majority of our installs are roof mount via a dish type screw in mount

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Paul Rice
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions My competitor here uses 1.25 EMT conduit from Home Depot, 13 bucks for a 10' section. He takes them to the local muffler shop and has them bend them with a block U

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
faster now. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions As we get into more and more installs, we

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Rice Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions YMMV, but I've had them out in high winds in excess of 40 miles an hour

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Mike
'splain please! How is that configured? Thanks. At 10:50 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: ... We now mount 2 pieces of 1-5/8 Unistrut with 1/4 lags and clamp the pipe to it. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Robert, Your competitor's U shaped EMT - does it look like my painting? http://i27.tinypic.com/30woz1k.jpg Note - IANAA (I am not an artist) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Robert, Your competitor's U shaped EMT - does it look like my painting? http://i27.tinypic.com/30woz1k.jpg Note - IANAA (I am not an artist) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Robert, Your competitor's U shaped EMT - does it look like my painting? http://i27.tinypic.com/30woz1k.jpg Note - IANAA (I am not an artist) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Randy Cosby
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I think the bottom horizontal line is the base of the standard powmount - but the top horizontal line is where

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Profito
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions My competitor here uses 1.25 EMT conduit from Home Depot, 13 bucks for a 10

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Scott Reed
4 length of strut at the peak. 5' length of strut down where ever it falls on the eaves. Strut pipe clamp to fit pipe. /\ /-\ / \ / \ /\ Mike wrote: 'splain please! How is that configured? Thanks. At

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions http://www.ronard.com/730731.html A bit more expensive / sturdy / configurable... Probably overkill. Ronard makes really good stuff. Robert West wrote: [IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg[/IMG] Another crude rendering. The bottom is where he

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Randy Cosby
- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions http://www.ronard.com/730731.html A bit more expensive / sturdy / configurable

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions http://www.ronard.com/730731.html A bit more expensive / sturdy / configurable... Probably overkill. Ronard makes really good stuff. Robert West wrote: [IMG]http://i28.tinypic.com/fnsxl.jpg[/IMG]http://i28

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Terry Hickey
I have used some like that (only 2 straps) worked alright - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Wonder if it works on real

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Eje Gustafsson
: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread AJ
List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread ralph
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Another example of overkill, but you'll never have to go back and fix it... except when the neighbors complain how ugly it is :) Up to 2 mast! ralph wrote: This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Careful with those. You tighten up to hard or you attach to an old chimney and you might find

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Scott Reed
: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:26 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions Robert, Not a bad idea at all. It would cut out a tripod and possible roof damage liability. That 'u' part, what is the apx depth of the 'u'? 18 24? and 10-12 vertically? If you are running around in the next few days, can you shoot a photo or two

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread eje
PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions This is a weird looking animal! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work going straight up from the facia/gable mount instead of continuing the bend to get back over the roof? I would think that it would be stronger and more rigid if the bends were all between the mounting points. Perhaps I am

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I think you mean straight up from the j-arm. ASCII art didn't turn out from what I see. On 8/27/09, J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com wrote: I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work going straight up from the facia/gable mount instead of continuing the bend to get back

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
Obviously, my ASCII art skills are lacking. :) You are correct. Josh Luthman wrote: I think you mean straight up from the j-arm. ASCII art didn't turn out from what I see. On 8/27/09, J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com wrote: I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Terry Hickey
and guys if the height warrants it. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and 10 ft masts. Channel master. Tripods are $18 and masts are $11. We charge $30 for the tripods and $15 for 10ft mast including install. Brian Scott Reed wrote: 4" length of strut at the peak. 5' length of strut down where ever it falls on

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Tripods like roof hole making tripods? On 8/27/09, Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net wrote: I guess I'm just old fashioned using tripods and 10 ft masts.  Channel master.  Tripods are $18 and masts are $11.  We charge $30 for the tripods and $15 for 10ft mast including install. Brian

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Oh ya. I love my lag bolts! A strip of mastic and send the lag right through it. 5 years, thousands of holes and not a leak to speak of. It's not uncommon for me to do a 45 minute install. (I;m the boss. It's not like I get paid by the hour!) Brian Josh Luthman wrote: Tripods like roof

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Scottie Arnett
! A chimney mount for a dish with 5 straps. http://www.ronard.com/4424.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread Robert West
on the mount. Dunno. I don't see where it would be any less effective either way. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount