I see my last post was redundant to some comments others already made. But
to answer your question...
We use Superior Essex for critical infrastrucure. We use Shireen cable
(allrfcables.com) for all other.
Are you using the Shireen shielded cat-5? Any problems putting connectors on?
Matt
The icky-pick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icky-pick or monkey-s*** as my
telco friends call it... that is on normal cables is clear and a PITA to
get off. I also find that it runs into everything when it gets hot.
I moved to Western Washington State to avoid the running of the gel when it
gets
I was told to use rubbing alcohol by an electrician to get the icky-pick off of
hands etc.
On 12/17/09 11:12 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote:
The icky-pick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icky-pick or monkey-s*** as my
telco friends call it... that is on normal cables is clear and a PITA
ship a box that didn't have a busted spool. Crappy
packaging all around. But the cable has been great so far.
marlon
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We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
different
: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
different options for the towers and client installs. I was
wondering
what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in
what you
look for in shielding/water protection, should I get
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We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at
some
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wondering
what people here liked
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We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at
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Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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, then
crimp the end on. Then maybe a zip tie?
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Oh I see - when you said leaky I
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Oh I see - when you said leaky I assumed water.
Never seen the gel leak, get thin/drippy.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
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We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at
some
different options for the towers and client installs. I
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:09 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
Never seen the gel leak, get thin/drippy.
I have. It is more common to see in very warm environments, I think.
One of my customers in southern California does use a nylon tie wrap to
bend the cable and it seems to help some.
--
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:26 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
Customer complaints??? About what's inside the cable?!
Lol. Not what's inside the cable, but what pushes OUT of the cable
when you have a long run.
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* Butch Evans
Complaints about what is leaking out all over their desk/floor
Butch Evans wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:26 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
Customer complaints??? About what's inside the cable?!
Lol. Not what's "inside the cable", but what pushes OUT of the
But a couple things to note...
Shireen outdoor shielded cable is less expensive (or equivellent) in price
to regular plenum CAT5.
Shireen cable is also almost as easy to work with, as regular CAT5.
Shiren cable is thin, and the right diameter to fill up most small hole
passthrus (such as
Thats a good comparison Tom.
Couple things I should note, which I thought about after I posted.
I live in the Pac North West, not the South West, Arizona Nevada or
Texas. I'm not sure blue cat 5 would stand up in outdoor situations
there when it is exposed to the hellacious sunlight there.
And
The only problems I have had in 5 years is cable wearing through
because it was not tied on properly and power supplies and ends going
bad because water dripped into then. I've never seen water hurt a
cable, even a cut cable. It only hurts the ends. I have had cables
get water in them so I
We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering
what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you
look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if
so with
All our APs are shielded, flooded. No conduit.
All customers are shielded.
Everything is, of course, outdoor-rated UV-resistent.
Really cuts down on lightning damage, we've found.
One of our local competitors uses indoor cable - we do a lot of conversions
and find that the cable is in pieces
Gel filled on towers is a mess. The gel runs down the cable and oozes
out all over the inside of the connector, etc. at the bottom of the tower.
Michael Baird wrote:
We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
different options for the towers and client installs. I
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some
different options for the towers and client installs. I
The white gel I see is way too thick to run down at all.
For APs I have always used the Mohawk cable with a really thick jacket
and aluminum shielding. I just ordered what 3db recommended per the
Moto400 recommendation. Looks the same, copper shielding, cheaper.
For customers I use outdoor
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Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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We are getting ready
Wouldn't it be worse if water ran down the cable?
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.netwrote:
Gel filled on towers is a mess. The gel runs down the cable and oozes
out all over the inside of the connector, etc. at the bottom of the tower.
Michael Baird
I've heard of people being afraid water would get inside the cable and that
is the purpose of the gel. Can't say I've ever seen water in the line, but
I know I have never looked!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
When you have
Properly installed, I don't think it'd ever be a concern. But I've seen
plenty of towers where two-way guys, or TV guys or insert other non-WISP
people who may be climbing or attaching things to a tower will not care
much about your Cat5. Think of them hoisting a new folded dipole antenna
up,
Don't forget, on a snowy mountain top the change in temp from day to
night can cause condensation inside the jacket that pools at the low
spot over time.
I've heard of people being afraid water would get inside the cable and that
is the purpose of the gel. Can't say I've ever seen water
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I've heard of people being afraid water would get inside the cable and
that
is the purpose of the gel. Can't say I've ever seen water in the line,
but
I
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:28 PM
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Wouldn't it be worse if water ran down the cable?
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10
to
it.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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We are getting ready to order
the cable I always
find some sticky mess. Never any water tho.
/Eje
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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I've heard of people being afraid water would get inside the cable
My experience living in the rainy pacific northwest is, regular old blue
or grey cat 5 cable has lasted all the 10 years I've been doing this. I
use it on all my houses and buildings.
White cat 5 does not work outdoors and deteriorates quickly. Should be
no surprise.
Up a tower I use an a
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