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From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
If the mesh box that is a MT box is legit and certified, why
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
There is no way you would be legit if you decided to do this on your own.
Considering the conversation
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
Does that mean we can take a 532 board and a cm9 and use it elsewhere
and consider it certified ?
No. You would have to use the exact same parts to be considered legal
from the antenna
, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
There is no way you would be legit if you decided to do this on your
own. Considering the conversation that went on a few weeks back
mentioned that people used Mikrotik systems because of the feature
set and not cost why would
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Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
I like to think of it more like constructive public pressure rather than
paranoia. Paranoia would be a term used in regard to unfounded concern
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Marlon,
Do you really believe the FCC does not care if WISP's are using
uncertified gear? I doubt that you actually believe this.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I prefer certified gear
doing 70.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Marlon,
Do
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Mike,
There is no excuse for using uncertified gear no matter who is at fault.
This attitude is going to hurt the WISP industry more than anything.
Dawn, we got to where we are today because of the independent thinking
tech who rolled his own systems.
I very much
George,
I am not painting a bad picture of anyone. I just think that if you are
going to be a part of this industry then you need to play by the rules
no matter how much you dislike it. Yes, there was innovation by breaking
the rules in the beginning but that was before there was an industry.
wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
I like to think of it more like constructive public pressure rather than
paranoia. Paranoia would be a term used in regard to unfounded concern.
Certification as a matter of law
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
George,
I am not painting a bad picture of anyone. I just think that if you are
going to be a part
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Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:17 PM
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So are you telling us you are exempt, then? The justificatiom is that you
are small- a Ma and Pa? Mikrotik certification is already sorted out
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
I like to think of it more like constructive public pressure rather
than
paranoia. Paranoia would be a term used in regard to unfounded
concern.
Certification
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Mike,
If you think you are under the radar you are sorely mistaken. You
admitted on a public list that gear you use is not certified.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
Yeah, but your over the limit! :)
I just want to know why the feds don't just drive on over to Teletronics
in
- Original Message -
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Marlon,
Do you really believe the FCC does not care if WISP's are using
uncertified gear? I doubt
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
The Trango MESH box uses Trango radios (thus FCC certified) and
an RB532
for doing the routing. The RB is NOT providing any wireless
service.
Travis
Microserv
George Rogato wrote
Rick,
Does that mean we can take a 532 board and a cm9 and use it elsewhere
and consider it certified ?
No. You would have to use the exact same parts to be considered legal from the
antenna to the power supply. This would mean you would have to get the
manufacturer of all these parts in the
Rick,
There is no way you would be legit if you decided to do this on your
own. Considering the conversation that went on a few weeks back
mentioned that people used Mikrotik systems because of the feature set
and not cost why would you not buy an already certified system. To be
safe I would
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
Does that mean we can take a 532 board and a cm9 and use it elsewhere
and consider it certified ?
No. You would have to use the exact same parts to be considered legal from
the antenna to the power supply. This would mean you would have
gear.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
People really are getting paranoid about MT certification lately
I would assume Dawn, that your statement like mine is an SS U Me tion.
If the trango's plug into the ethernets and the cm9 is a wifi ap, then
it's quite a stretch to say that the mt-cm9 combo alone is not certified.
George
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Rick,
Does that mean we can take a 532 board
Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Rick,
There is no way you would be legit if you decided to do this on your
own. Considering the conversation that went on a few weeks back
mentioned that people used Mikrotik systems because of the feature set
and not cost why would you not buy an already certified
PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
With good reason. It's not an acceptable solution if it's not
certified.
If someone takes you to court over interference (which they can!) you'd
lose if they're using certified gear and you're not. The fact that it's
Unlicensed spectrum takes
George,
Trango would have had the whole system certified not just the radio card
and the SBC. You can't take out a few parts from a certified system and
consider it legal in any way shape or form.
The system as a whole was certified including the case, the power supply
and software. As far as
DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
Does that mean we can take a 532 board and a cm9 and use it elsewhere
and consider it certified ?
No. You would have to use
I don't think so.
I think they probably have done the testing and got the certs for the
board and the card.
The trango stuff is a diferent test and cert that happened a long time ago.
Lets not read more into it than whats there. We all know what a trango
unit looks like and we all know how
. They have not.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Mike,
Why
to make you
guys see this?
Ralph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
People really are getting paranoid about MT
Sure, if you can afford the FCC fine!
Please post when/where you do this. ;-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Smith, Rick
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info
to make you
guys see this?
Ralph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
People really are getting paranoid about MT
how much is the fine ?
Where's it specified ?
(SERIOUS question.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:40 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Sure, if you can
I believe the FCC has the authority to fine up to $10k per incident.
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From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
how much is the fine
George Rogato wrote:
The crux of this ongoing argument is did someone certify a MT,
routerboard, cm9 system? Skip the already certified Trango components.
Dumb newbie question. Doesn't the certification apply to a complete
package, including antenna and software?
Mikrotik's RouterOS software
We're looking to provide service to a school nearby, using Mikrotik and
SR5 / SR9 cards.
Anyone have proposals to a school with info in it addressing the issue
of will you fry our children ?
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
We're looking to provide service to a school nearby, using Mikrotik and
SR5 / SR9 cards.
Anyone have proposals to a school with info in it addressing the issue
: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
We're looking to provide service to a school nearby, using Mikrotik and
SR5 / SR9 cards.
Anyone have proposals to a school with info in it addressing the issue
of will you fry our children
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:59 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
The first thing I'd do in a case like that, is use an FCC approved
system to start with. The fact that you don't
...yet.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
I have to agree with Ralph on this one. Since you have admitted
for the documentation to prove it's not harmful
?
isn't there a standard FCC document that states all this ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:59 AM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info
not harmful
?
isn't there a standard FCC document that states all this ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 8:59 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
The first thing
Smith, Rick wrote:
I plan to use an FCC Certified solution. That's not the issue. The
issue is, is standard documentation from Ubiquiti good enough as to
radio strengths, etc for the documentation to prove it's not harmful
?
isn't there a standard FCC document that states all this ?
No
Trango's mesh box uses rb532 plus daughter bd and mikrotik OS. It's in thier
manual.
Frank
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From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick
problem.
. . . j o n a t h a n
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Smith, Rick wrote:
I plan to use an FCC Certified solution
are on the
back side, now, of the power-line problem.
. . . j o n a t h a n
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Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info
27, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
I would suggest going there with some pretty pictures. You can tell
anyone anything, and they may say they understand, But as House says
people lie. Go there with some graphs of Spectrum Analysis of things
like a AP at 25
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
I have to agree with Ralph on this one. Since you have admitted on a
public list that you believe there are no certified Mikrotik systems out
there it would not be in your best interest
anyone have the FCC Cert# for the Trango Mesh ? I might just do that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Frank
daughter bd and mikrotik OS. It's in
thier
manual.
Frank
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
I have to agree with Ralph
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
Rick,
I have to agree with Ralph on this one. Since you have admitted on a
public list that you believe there are no certified Mikrotik
systems out
Travis Johnson wrote:
The Trango MESH box uses Trango radios (thus FCC certified) and an RB532
for doing the routing. The RB is NOT providing any wireless service.
Travis
Microserv
ah
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?
The Trango MESH box uses Trango radios (thus FCC certified) and an RB532
for doing the routing. The RB is NOT providing any wireless service.
Travis
ngo's mesh manual, the trango atlas
radios are for backhaul.
hope this helps
frank
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