Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-28 Thread Cameron Crum
:* Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:46 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie ** ** That's right Blake, and it was way before 4G that designing for capacity came into play. Before I became a wisp in '03, I had designed and had a part in building over 1000

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Charles Wu
Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie At the end of the day when a WISP puts up a 'cell' site it is probably

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
MHz on licensed spectrum with zero noise floor -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sam Tetherow Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel White
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I have a dissenting opinion... It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Blake Bowers
...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I have a dissenting opinion... It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost effectively provide broadband. A cellular

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Sam Tetherow
] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I have a dissenting opinion... It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost effectively provide broadband. A cellular

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I have a dissenting opinion... It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost effectively provide broadband. A cellular network is built for coverage Additionally, large companies, from a scale and operations

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Steve Barnes
, October 27, 2011 1:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I believe FiOS already covers a good portion of their existing (urban) coverage area. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/27/2011 11:44 AM, Sam Tetherow

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Wilson Hernandez
] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I have a dissenting opinion... It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost effectively provide broadband. A cellular network

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I believe FiOS already covers a good portion of their existing (urban) coverage area. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 10/27/2011 11:44 AM, Sam Tetherow wrote: Didn't Verizon announce FIOS

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/27/2011 03:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It makes it easier to increase your penetration percentage when you sell off what you don't intend on putting fiber in. Worse. They sold off what they could of that plant where they didn't intend to put in fiber. But they couldn't sell it all. So

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Blair Davis
I just wounder... if they start selling fixed wireless on their mobile network, will they be able to weasel out of the Network Neutrality rules for fixed wireless? On 10/27/2011 4:26 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote: At 10/27/2011 03:10 PM, Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Webster
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie At 10/27/2011 03:10 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It makes it easier to increase your penetration percentage

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Cameron Crum
: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie I have a dissenting opinion... It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost effectively provide broadband. A cellular network is built for coverage Additionally, large companies, from a scale and operations

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Webster
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 5:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie That's right Blake, and it was way before 4G that designing for capacity came into play. Before I became a wisp in '03, I had designed and had

[WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Marco Coelho
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Victoria
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116 721 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Chuck Hogg
about fixed vs. mobile. Victoria Proffer President/CEO St. Louis Broadband 314.974.5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon wants

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Josh Luthman
Broadband 314.974.5600 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Fred Goldstein
At 10/26/2011 11:42 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: The LIVE network here does 26Mb x 22Mb with 70ms latency. The VZW network isn't such bad competition for a WISP for two reasons. One -- those numbers you see are on the brand-new, unloaded network. The've just started selling LTE gear this year, so the

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Sam Tetherow
It all comes down to a simple economics in the end. Who can most cost effectively provide broadband. At the end of the day when a WISP puts up a 'cell' site it is probably costing them 1/100th of what it costs the cellco to do so. The equipment used is most likely 1/100th the cost at the

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Chuck Hogg
: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Matt
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Confirms-New-Home-LTE-Service-116721 Will USF funds or other subsidies fund this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
We will find out tomorrow - FCC will release their USF plan on Thursday. Let's hope that it will not fund this, but since Verizon and ATT run the telecom section of our government, I would not be surprised. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 10/26/2011 11:18 AM, Matt wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Victoria
/CEO St. Louis Broadband 314.974.5600 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie http

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:43 AM To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie The LIVE network here does 26Mb x 22Mb with 70ms latency. Regards, Chuck On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Victoria li...@stlbroadband.com

Re: [WISPA] Verizon wants a piece of our pie

2011-10-26 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
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