Re: [WISPA] 4.9GHz gear

2006-04-11 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Airspan has an 802.16a 4.9 product ( Not wimax, because there is no interoperability and no profile for interop in 4.9 for wimax )  that they just got certified with the FCC. Give me an email if you want some pricing.-JeffOn Apr 10, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: Anyone have some pricing

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Richard Goodin
Guys; These all sound great. I was reading just a couple months back about a WISP operator that had a severe problem. Just a few yards away, maybe 300 feet, another guy put up his tower. I think they were both on 2.4 GHZ, and someone suggested a different AP that would not even be

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Richard Goodin
So... Who makes them?, how much? Hi Richard, This cloaking mechanism is the 5MHz and 10MHz channel sizes that George was referring to on the Star WAR boards. Works really well and even seems to improve signal quality. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Paul Hendry
All the details are on the Valemount web site http://www.staros.com/starvx/ Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Goodin Sent: 11 April 2006 09:15 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

[WISPA] MIMO

2006-04-11 Thread Peter R.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/73487 *Avoiding MIMO* /Professor warns: stick with 802.11g/ Posted 2006-04-10 13:22:06 Incorrectly advising users that new 802.11n gear won't work with old hotspots, an article in the Boston Globe

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Tim Wolfe
Richard Goodin wrote: Guys; These all sound great. I was reading just a couple months back about a WISP operator that had a severe problem. Just a few yards away, maybe 300 feet, another guy put up his tower. I think they were both on 2.4 GHZ, and someone suggested a different AP that

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Does anyone know actual TCP throughput with StarOS on their 533mhz boards in just a point to point config, using 20mhz of spectrum? Travis Microserv Paul Hendry wrote: All the details are on the Valemount web site http://www.staros.com/starvx/ Cheers, P. -Original

[WISPA] Xmax?

2006-04-11 Thread chris cooper
Anybody heard anything about this? http://www.shorecliffcommunications.com/magazine/news.asp?news=4404 There is some movement right now as well to consolidate 158.7 Mhz. Its licensed, guard band and a good chunk of it is almost empty with the decline of national paging carriers. I haven't

Re: [WISPA] Xmax?

2006-04-11 Thread Blake Bowers
I sure hope the hundreds of licenses on there don't get upset Still pretty active most places I travel. - Original Message - From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: [WISPA] Xmax?

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread George
Travis, it's been awhile, but I think we got almost 40megs on the built in star tcp test across 533 5gig PtP link. Let me find the screen captures.I'm not positive. Right now all my wars are running at 5MHz and 10MHz channel spacing, unless theyare talking to wrap boards. George Travis

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Forrest W Christian
Richard Goodin wrote: I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin delivery of bandwidth to customers. Since Canopy hasn't been mentioned yet, I'll mention it. You really can't go wrong with a canopy installation. It works, even in the presence of noise that would

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Mark Nash
I have installed my first MT system (RB532 w/daughterboard) and am happy with it but using it only as an ethernet router at this point. It seems to perform better than the Cisco L3 switch (C4840G) we replaced. But I have not used the Mikrotik for an AP or PtP links. What about Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] MIMO

2006-04-11 Thread Jeromie Reeves
That guy needs to do more research. AirGo MIMO is far better then the other MIMO's products. Netgear dumped the majority of its older MIMO in lue of AirGo because of these reasons. Its pure misunderstanding about AirGo mimo not working with old hotspots. I bought a Pre-N card the week they came

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
As a former Canopy user, I would like to point out a couple of issues not mentioned here. 1) Canopy is limited to vertical polarity in PTMP deployments. Trango and many other systems can be deployed in horizontal polarity, pretty much avoiding any Canopy in the area. 2) Canopy systems

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread John Scrivner
Replies inline below: Richard Goodin wrote: I have been planning my WISP for about a year, and have yet to begin delivery of bandwidth to customers. My choice for service delivery was 802.11b, but with increased competition from other services nearby (about 5 miles away) I am wondering how

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Jason Wallace
John Scrivner: Sadly the best Wifi solutions available do not have 100% FCC compliance. There are some that do though. Tranzeo is a good example. Look at Tranzeo for your Wifi based gear needs. Tranzeo is 100% FCC legal? I've been looking for the certs... Jason -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread fred
Might I inquire as to where the dishes can be had for $40? On 4/10/06, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's on quantity 30 $149 each. 5.8ghz, dual polarity, up to 3 miles (add $40 for a dish and it goes up to 13 miles) and delivers up to 10Mbps. Hard to beat! And with

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread John Scrivner
I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I guess maybe you could call them and ask for the URL to their FCC certs? If you see this then passing those along here would sure be nice. Thanks, Scriv Jason Wallace wrote: John Scrivner: Sadly the best Wifi solutions available do not have

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Jason
To clarify, I was looking specifically for AP's that were certified for 120deg sectors. I Searched the FCC database and couldn't find anything about the Tranzeos. YMMV, however. Can anyone clear this up? A link? Jason John Scrivner wrote: I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Forrest W. Christian
John Scrivner wrote: I sure thought I saw certs once on their site. I guess maybe you could call them and ask for the URL to their FCC certs? If you see this then passing those along here would sure be nice. Tranzeo in the past has played fast and loose with certificates besides what they

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Rich Comroe
Canopy will run with 3db of signal to noise separation, which is more robust than 802.11b For signal levels typically found in deployed equipment this is not true, nor has it ever been true. The Canopy 3dB C/I is measured at stronger signal than typical deployment (unless all your SMs have

[WISPA] out-sourced billing/collections

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
As we grow we have more of a need to outsource the billing/collections or hire somebody inhouse Is anybody outsourcing the billing? Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
I believe that the atheros chipset is capped at 35Mbps, although users of MT have claimed higher using very fast cpus. I have several atheros/MT/nstream links (PTP and PTMP) that push 30Mbps. Pretty impressive throughput, plus adjustable channels, plus QoS for VoIP and all the other

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Dan, We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on another wireless list. What processor and setup are you using to get 30Mbps? The fastest I have seen with routerboard 532's in a p2p config is 20Mbps of TCP traffic passing thru the RB's. Do you have outdoor

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
Im using a standard RB532, IP conn-track off, I am using the pacwireless outdoor enclosures or the MTI pocket antennas SR5 cards, nstream enabled, framer policy dynamic size, limit-3200 is default 4000 works a little better but have not tested w/ voip Routing is faster than bridging

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread danlist
I use a lot of different hardware from Trango, Karlnet, Proxim, and mikrotik polling systems generally perform better than non-polling gps sync may scale even better When I first used the trango 900 series I liked having the simple design and very easy install unlike karlnet. But I

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Using the 533 MHz IXP-420 we can get an Atheros to just over 35 mbps of non compressible data and almost 90 mbps of compressible data. Lonnie On 4/11/06, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, We had this discussion a few weeks ago, although it may have been on another wireless list.

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Dan, I have talked with many people (including Butch Evans that is the MT consultant) and he has never seen anything over 21Mbps with the RB532. I have the exact configuration you have described running on a 9 mile link and 17 mile link. With the 17 mile link, I have MT routers on either

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Lonnie, Is that TCP or UDP? Travis Microserv Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Using the 533 MHz IXP-420 we can get an Atheros to just over 35 mbps of non compressible data and almost 90 mbps of compressible data. Lonnie On 4/11/06, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, We

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
It is TCP. We do not use UDP since it gives a reading that will never be seen by a customer doing an FTP download. We are looking at building in iperf so we should be able to do tcp or udp tests in future. I have a network from Valemount, BC to McBride, BC that has about 100 km of repeater

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Dylan Oliver
How is any product qualified as 'Carrier-Grade'? What is it about Alvarion VL that makes the cut vs. Canopy? Lord knows Motorola produces far more 'Carrier-Grade' equipment than Alvarion ever will - so where did they go wrong with Canopy? Also, I've heard lately several complaints that Waverider

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
That is very impressive... :) Travis Microserv Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: It is TCP. We do not use UDP since it gives a reading that will never be seen by a customer doing an FTP download. We are looking at building in iperf so we should be able to do tcp or udp tests in future. I have a

RE: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Chad Halsted
Travis, I have a StarOS PTP link using the 533mhz WAR boards that get up to 33Mbps (TCP). Thats using CM9 atheros cards and 2 PacWireless Dishes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:28 AM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Chad, Based on your post, I just purchased a couple 533mhz boards with CM9 cards from Lonnie. :) Travis Microserv Chad Halsted wrote: Travis, I have a StarOS PTP link using the 533mhz WAR boards that get up to 33Mbps (TCP). Thats using CM9 atheros cards and 2