RE: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member

2006-07-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini








I wished!! All the spectrum to myself!

 



Gino A. Villarini 
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Aeronet
Wireless Broadband Corp. 
tel 
787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of Carl A Jeptha
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:58
PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISPA
Vendor Member



 

Fool it must be you, you told me you were the only
WISP there :-D 



You have a Good Day now,  Carl A Jepthahttp://www.airnet.caoffice 905 349-2084Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900skype cajeptha



Gino A. Villarini wrote: 

2,500
radios in Puerto Rico……..who’s
that ?

 



Gino A. Villarini 
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tel  787.273.4143  
fax   787.273.4145 













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:23
PM
To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor
Member





 

I would like to take this
opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor Member to our organization. Optivon
 has paid
their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of the WISP
industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure I speak for us
all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to offer VOIP for your
customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at your business. After all, they
are the first VOIP vendor to actually build their business plan around working
with WISPs like you and support our association. I will be talking to them for
my own network's VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. Here is some
information about Optivon:

Optivon
is a facilities based VoIP applications services provider located in

Tampa, FL and San Juan, Puerto Rico. We provide hosted
services to local exchange carriers, wireless Internet service providers, and
other carriers. 

 

Our hosted services
include IP Centrex/Hosted PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other applications.
Through various providers, we can offer a very large nationwide local footprint
of DID and toll free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, for increased
margins, we can work with you in helping you operate your own local PSTN
connections. This is especially attractive for internationally based carriers.
We also offer you attractive domestic and international termination rates. 

 

Through our CLEC
subsidiary in Puerto
 Rico, we can provide DID origination and
termination.   Our platform is based on a carrier class tandem
softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal Data) applications service
platform, which is located in a "bunker type" central office facility
for increased network reliability.

 

We have a good
understanding of wireless data networks, having operated one. Among our
customers for hosted VoIP services are a WISP in Tampa that is expanding into Atlanta and South Florida, another
in Connecticut,
and one that has 2,500 radios installed in Puerto Rico.  We provide
service to the largest telephone operating company in the World and to small
WISP operators.   

 

Different than other
providers, Optivon is prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP
services, but also sales and engineering support to help you succeed.

 

Also, we will not compete
against you.  We only sell our services in the USA
through carriers.  

 

Please visit our web site
at www.optivon.com/us to learn more
about our services or contact Rafael Morales at the following address:

 

Optivon Inc.

Rafael Morales

VP Operations

6304 Benjamin Rd. Suite
  514



Tampa,
 FL 
 33634



 

Tel:  813-600-6090

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 

 

 






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Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member

2006-07-13 Thread Carl A Jeptha




Fool it must be you, you told me you were the only WISP there  :-D 
You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Gino A. Villarini wrote:

  
  

  
  
  

  
  
  
  2,500 radios
in Puerto Rico……..who’s
that ?
   
  
  Gino A.
Villarini 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Aeronet
Wireless Broadband Corp. 
  tel 
787.273.4143  
fax   787.273.4145 
  
  
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf
Of John Scrivner
  Sent: Thursday, July
13, 2006 9:23
PM
  To:
wireless@wispa.org;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [WISPA] New
WISPA Vendor
Member
  
   
  I would
like to take this
opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor Member to our organization.
Optivon
  
has paid
their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of the
WISP
industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure I speak
for us
all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to offer VOIP for
your
customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at your business. After
all, they
are the first VOIP vendor to actually build their business plan around
working
with WISPs like you and support our association. I will be talking to
them for
my own network's VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. Here is some
information about Optivon:
  Optivon is a
facilities
based VoIP applications services provider located in
  Tampa, FL and San Juan, Puerto Rico.
We provide hosted services to local exchange
carriers, wireless Internet service providers, and other carriers. 
   
  Our hosted
services include IP Centrex/Hosted
PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other applications. Through
various
providers, we can offer a very large nationwide local footprint of DID
and toll
free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, for increased margins,
we can
work with you in helping you operate your own local PSTN connections.
This is
especially attractive for internationally based carriers. We also offer
you
attractive domestic and international termination rates. 
   
  Through our
CLEC subsidiary in Puerto
Rico, we can provide DID origination
and termination.   Our platform is based on a carrier class tandem
softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal Data) applications
service
platform, which is located in a "bunker type" central office facility
for increased network reliability.
   
  We have a good
understanding of wireless data
networks, having operated one. Among our customers for hosted VoIP
services are
a WISP in Tampa
that is expanding into Atlanta
and South Florida, another in Connecticut,
and one that has 2,500 radios installed in Puerto Rico.  We provide service to
the
largest telephone operating company in the World and to small WISP
operators.   
   
  Different than
other providers, Optivon is
prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP services, but
also sales
and engineering support to help you succeed.
   
  Also, we will
not compete against you.  We
only sell our services in the USA
through carriers.  
   
  Please visit
our web site at www.optivon.com/us to
learn more
about our services or contact Rafael Morales at the following address:
   
  Optivon Inc.
  Rafael Morales
  VP Operations
  6304 Benjamin
Rd. Suite 514
  
  Tampa, FL  33634
  
   
  Tel: 
813-600-6090
  Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
   
   
   
   
  



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Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-13 Thread John J. Thomas
Multi mode fiber can go 550 meters, single mode can go 70 kilometers or more 
between repeaters.

John


>-Original Message-
>From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:04 AM
>To: 'WISPA General List'
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
>
>Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet?  I thought you were 
>restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a 
>switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something?  
>I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an 
>affordable use of them.
>
>Sam Tetherow
>Sandhills Wireless
>
>Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>
>> We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul.  I've not 
>> built my own fiber yet.  I'm sure the day is coming though.
>>
>> I really screwed up a few years ago.  The town had the sidewalks all 
>> out down town.  I should have found the money and put some conduit in 
>> at that time.  I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of 
>> the down town businesses today!  sigh
>>
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
>> 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
>> www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
>> www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?
>>
>>
>>> I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement
>>> their wireless operations.  We have a couple of leads we are looking at
>>> making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities 
>>> get
>>> involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the 
>>> venture.
>>>
>>> On or off list replys welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
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RE: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member

2006-07-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini








2,500 radios in Puerto Rico……..who’s
that ?

 



Gino A. Villarini 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
tel  787.273.4143  
fax   787.273.4145 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:23
PM
To: wireless@wispa.org;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor
Member



 

I would like to take this
opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor Member to our organization. Optivon
 has paid
their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of the WISP
industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure I speak for us
all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to offer VOIP for your
customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at your business. After all, they
are the first VOIP vendor to actually build their business plan around working
with WISPs like you and support our association. I will be talking to them for
my own network's VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. Here is some
information about Optivon:

Optivon is a facilities
based VoIP applications services provider located in

Tampa, FL and San
 Juan, Puerto
 Rico. We provide hosted services to local exchange
carriers, wireless Internet service providers, and other carriers. 

 

Our hosted services include IP Centrex/Hosted
PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other applications. Through various
providers, we can offer a very large nationwide local footprint of DID and toll
free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, for increased margins, we can
work with you in helping you operate your own local PSTN connections. This is
especially attractive for internationally based carriers. We also offer you
attractive domestic and international termination rates. 

 

Through our CLEC subsidiary in Puerto Rico, we can provide DID origination
and termination.   Our platform is based on a carrier class tandem
softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal Data) applications service
platform, which is located in a "bunker type" central office facility
for increased network reliability.

 

We have a good understanding of wireless data
networks, having operated one. Among our customers for hosted VoIP services are
a WISP in Tampa
that is expanding into Atlanta
and South Florida, another in Connecticut,
and one that has 2,500 radios installed in Puerto Rico.  We provide service to the
largest telephone operating company in the World and to small WISP
operators.   

 

Different than other providers, Optivon is
prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP services, but also sales
and engineering support to help you succeed.

 

Also, we will not compete against you.  We
only sell our services in the USA
through carriers.  

 

Please visit our web site at www.optivon.com/us to learn more
about our services or contact Rafael Morales at the following address:

 

Optivon Inc.

Rafael Morales

VP Operations

6304 Benjamin Rd. Suite
  514



Tampa, FL  33634



 

Tel:  813-600-6090

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

 

 

 






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[WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member

2006-07-13 Thread John Scrivner




I would like to take this opportunity to introduce a new WISPA Vendor
Member to our organization. Optivon  has
paid their dues and has made it official. They want to work with all of
the WISP industry and help support our efforts through WISPA. I am sure
I speak for us all in welcoming them to WISPA. If you have a desire to
offer VOIP for your customers then consider giving Optivon a shot at
your business. After all, they are the first VOIP vendor to actually
build their business plan around working with WISPs like you and
support our association. I will be talking to them for my own network's
VOIP needs. I hope you all do the same. Here is some information about
Optivon:

Optivon is a facilities based
VoIP applications services
provider located in
Tampa, FL
and San Juan, Puerto
Rico.
We provide hosted services to local exchange carriers, wireless
Internet
service providers, and other carriers. 
 
Our hosted services include IP
Centrex/Hosted
PBX, Residential VoIP, IP Trunking and other applications. Through
various
providers, we can offer a very large nationwide local footprint of DID
and toll
free numbers with E911 service. If you prefer, for increased margins,
we can
work with you in helping you operate your own local PSTN connections.
This is
especially attractive for internationally based carriers. We also offer
you
attractive domestic and international termination rates. 
 
Through our CLEC subsidiary in Puerto Rico, we can provide DID origination and
termination.   Our platform is based on a
carrier class tandem softswitch and a Tekelec 6000 (formerly Vocal
Data)
applications service platform, which is located in a "bunker type"
central office facility for increased network reliability.
 
We have a good understanding of
wireless data
networks, having operated one. Among our customers for hosted VoIP
services are
a WISP in Tampa that is expanding into Atlanta and South Florida, another in Connecticut,
and one that has 2,500 radios installed in Puerto
Rico.  We provide service to the
largest telephone
operating company in the World and to small WISP operators.   
 
Different than other providers,
Optivon is
prepared to work with you providing not only the VoIP services, but
also sales
and engineering support to help you succeed.
 
Also, we will not compete
against you.  We only sell our services in the USA
through
carriers.  
 
Please visit our web site at www.optivon.com/us to learn more about our
services or contact Rafael Morales at the following address:
 
Optivon Inc.
Rafael Morales
VP Operations
6304 Benjamin
Rd. Suite 514
Tampa, FL  33634
 
Tel: 
813-600-6090
Email: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 

 



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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread John Scrivner
I will plan on bringing my drums down I reckon. What about you Larsen? 
You bringing your bass guitar? Any guitar players out there who know how 
to rock-n-roll? When is this shindig? Is there a webpage for it? Let's rock!

:-)
Scriv


Mac Dearman wrote:


Very Good!!

We are gonna have a blowout. I am looking for a live band - - I wonder what
Scriv is doing? - - hey Scriv!

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

Heck, You know us down here, we are always game for a party. Looking forward
to it.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock


 


Cliff,

 You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to
   


get
 


here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know
that Y'all are all special :-)

Mac

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

Mac, I would be interested in attending...
How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)



On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   


We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor
 


Day.
   


It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
 


enjoy.
   


Bring your fishing pole...etc

All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!

Mac Dearman

 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Leary
Not sure. These were data reported back to us came from trusted beta
customers. The 80Mbps was from a customer in the south trunking back a bunch
of video connections, the 62Mbps was reported by a large (6k plus CPE) WISP
in Texas, where I suppose it was being used for traditional WISP backhaul
with commercial and residential Internet access and commercial VLAN stuff.

I'll ask the U.S. product manager (bcc'ed here) about performance per
specifically UDP, TCP, and Smartbits. Stay tuned, assuming he fills me in!

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:47 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hi Patrick

How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits?
Inquiring minds would like to know

-Charles

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links


No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread JohnnyO
Bummer cliff - your wife already said she'd be there only because I WAS
GOING ! :)~

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock


Sh!t...If JohnnyO's gonna be there -- count me out!

Mac, what are the details: When, where, local crash spots, etc.
- Cliff



On 7/13/06 8:13 AM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Cliff,
> 
>   You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 
> to get here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling 
> South. You know that Y'all are all special :-)
> 
> Mac
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
> 
> Mac, I would be interested in attending...
> How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for 
>> Labor
> Day.
>> It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
> enjoy.
>> Bring your fishing pole...etc
>> 
>> All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!
>> 
>> Mac Dearman
>> 

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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Charles Wu
Hi Patrick

How did you guys measure throughput? TCP / UDP / Smartbits?
Inquiring minds would like to know

-Charles

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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links


No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Sam Tetherow

Here is a thread from the MT forums on it.

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=9130

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless


Mac Dearman wrote:


Where did you get that info from Travis? Links, source…etc?

Mac Dearman



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Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are 
blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :(


Travis
Microserv

Kelly Shaw wrote:

Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?

I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my 
phone calls about them...


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Pure Internet

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Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Travis Johnson




Wow... I forgot some people don't watch the same wireless lists... :) 
This was a big discussion on isp-wireless a few weeks ago. ;)

The routerboard 532 is emitting a HIGH level of noise at 50-70Mhz and
140-170Mhz. I am talking 50-60db of "noise" coming off the DC-DC
converter on the board. 

I made this discovery about 3 weeks ago when we shut down the local HAM
repeater on a tower we were co-located on. It puts out the most noise
when using a regular power supply (48v), and then drops a little with
PoE (48v). We were able to eliminate the 50-70Mhz and drop the
140-170Mhz noise down to about 10db by switching to 18v PoE.

However, this board is not even CLOSE to FCC specs, and never will be.
Many others have discovered this same problem in the last couple of
weeks. It is completely obvious on a spectrum analyzer as well. It will
shut down emergency two-way radio systems if you are within 1000ft of
their repeater (found that one out as well).

I have opened a trouble ticket with Mikrotik, emailed John Tulley,
emailed support and posted on their forum all with no response (in
3 weeks time). My guess is they are crapping their pants. 

Travis
Microserv

Mac Dearman wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  Where did
you get that info from Travis?
Links, source…etc?
   
   
   
  
  Mac Dearman
  
  
  
  
  From:
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Behalf
Of Travis Johnson
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13, 2006 3:58
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RouterBoard
532s
  
   
  Maybe they pulled them off
production due to the NOISE
they are blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :(
  
Travis
Microserv
  
Kelly Shaw wrote: 
  
  Anyone know of a source
with RouterBoard 532s in
stock?
  
  
   
  
  
  I normally can get them
from WispRouter but they
won't respond to my phone calls about them...
  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
  Kelly Shaw
  
  
  Pure Internet
  
  
  www.pure.net
  
  
  
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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Mac Dearman








Where did you get that info from Travis?
Links, source…etc?

 

 

 



Mac Dearman











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532s



 

Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE
they are blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :(

Travis
Microserv

Kelly Shaw wrote: 



Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in
stock?





 





I normally can get them from WispRouter but they
won't respond to my phone calls about them...





 





 





Kelly Shaw





Pure Internet





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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Mac Dearman








I just talked to Jim Patient www.jeffcosoho.com  and he has a
pile of RB532A and the 32Meg boards in stock! He also stated he had  SR2&
SR5 in stock as well as the enclosures….etc

 



Mac Dearman











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Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?





 





I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't
respond to my phone calls about them...





 





 





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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Sh!t...If JohnnyO's gonna be there -- count me out!

Mac, what are the details: When, where, local crash spots, etc.
- Cliff



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> Cliff,
> 
>   You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get
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> that Y'all are all special :-)
> 
> Mac 
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> 
> Mac, I would be interested in attending...
> How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor
> Day.
>> It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
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>> Bring your fishing pole...etc
>> 
>> All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!
>> 
>> Mac Dearman
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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Kelly Shaw



What's the alternative to the Routerboard 532? 

 
I thought they were phasing out of the WRAP 
boards?
 
Kelly


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532s
Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are 
blowing all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. 
:(TravisMicroservKelly Shaw wrote: 

  
  Anyone know of a 
  source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?
   
  I normally can get 
  them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about 
  them...
   
   
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  Shaw
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Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Travis Johnson




Maybe they pulled them off production due to the NOISE they are blowing
all over the 50-450Mhz spectrum. :(

Travis
Microserv

Kelly Shaw wrote:

  
  
  Anyone
know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?
   
  I
normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my
phone calls about them...
   
   
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Shaw
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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Kelly Shaw
I liked WISP-ROUTER because they packaged the enclosure, etc with the board.
Works really great. I guess that I need to order more than 1 the next time
they get them in stock.  Their website shows a negative value in stock.


Kelly 

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Behalf Of Sam Tetherow
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:54 PM
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I got one in from them beginning of the week so I think they are in stock,
but it has seemed tough getting them to pick up the phone although I usually
get a callback within an hour.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

Kelly Shaw wrote:

> Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?
>  
> I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my 
> phone calls about them...
>  
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Re: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Sam Tetherow
I got one in from them beginning of the week so I think they are in 
stock, but it has seemed tough getting them to pick up the phone 
although I usually get a callback within an hour.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Kelly Shaw wrote:


Anyone know of a source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?
 
I normally can get them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my 
phone calls about them...
 
 
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[WISPA] RouterBoard 532s

2006-07-13 Thread Kelly Shaw



Anyone know of a 
source with RouterBoard 532s in stock?
 
I normally can get 
them from WispRouter but they won't respond to my phone calls about 
them...
 
 
Kelly 
Shaw
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Internet
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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Just teasing man!

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:06 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Touche Gino and fair to call me on it, but that is another trade off in the
interest of price competitiveness. We believe that since tight antennas can
be used to mitigate exposure risks (and we FCC certify with good quality
antennas).

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Gino A. Villarini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:02 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Huh???  RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ?

jeje

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

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From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Leary
Touche Gino and fair to call me on it, but that is another trade off in the
interest of price competitiveness. We believe that since tight antennas can
be used to mitigate exposure risks (and we FCC certify with good quality
antennas).

Patrick

-Original Message-
From: Gino A. Villarini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:02 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Huh???  RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ?

jeje

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tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Huh???  RF purist with a 40 mhz wide channel isn't that an oxymoron ?

jeje

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 3:28 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

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AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
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c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Leary
No. We tend to be RF purists (for better or worse) and components that have
so wide a frequency range have poorer performance. It is a trade off for
sure, but that is why we have not built such a system.

As to channelization, it is 40MHz. Our goal was to offer high performance,
very high quality, great simplicity, and at a very moderate price. This is
not trying to be an Orthogon Spectra and even Redline AN-50 -- WISP already
have those options if you have the need and the money. The BreezeNET B
series offers a fully featured product with "right-sized" capacity at very
modest cost. The BNET's offer Toyota quality, BMW performance, but at a
Chevy price.

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:32 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

-Original Message-
From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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Re: [WISPA] Jumper supplier

2006-07-13 Thread Sam Tetherow

Roger Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> should be able to hook you up.

   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

George Rogato wrote:

I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than 
lmr400 for 2 gig and 5 gig
CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other 
suppliers?


Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] Jumper supplier

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Brownson
we do custom jumpers with any cable or connector.  If you don't want to 
use LMR400 I would suggest using perhaps LMR240.  We'll install whatever 
connectors you need.


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George Rogato wrote:

I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than 
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CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other 
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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Brad Belton
Oh, one last thing...can the B100 tune to 5.3GHz as well as 5.8GHz?

Best,

Brad

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From: Brad Belton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


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Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] Jumper supplier

2006-07-13 Thread Mac Dearman
http://jeffcosoho.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=12&products_id=145051

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I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than 
lmr400 for 2 gig and 5 gig
CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other 
suppliers?

Thanks

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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Patrick,

Were the 62 & 80Mbps results using a 20MHz channel or a 40MHz channel?
Regardless those are nice numbers.

Best,

Brad


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Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

Jory Privett
WCCS 


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[WISPA] Jumper supplier

2006-07-13 Thread George Rogato
I'm lookng for 2 and 3' out door nmale jumpers preferably smaller than 
lmr400 for 2 gig and 5 gig
CAn't seem t find them on te EC or PW sites. Anyone got any other 
suppliers?


Thanks

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RE: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Patrick Leary
Jory (et al),

Take a look at our new B100, an addition to popular B14 and B28 BreezeNET
backhaul/bridging line. Lots of people here can give you feedback on the B14
& B28. Feedback from the field on the B100 has provided some really strong
results:

62 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 16 miles
80 Mbps sustained NET throughput at 1 mile

It is a very simple product to install and is highly integrated. The B100
comes with external antenna ports. List price is less than $8K (many here
can chime in with expected discounts to give you an expectation of "street
price."


Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-Original Message-
From: Jory Privett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:57 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I

have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of

the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles

and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

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WCCS 


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Re: [WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up

2006-07-13 Thread fred

it opens for me and the pull downs work with open office 1.9.1

On 7/13/06, Mark Koskenmaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

They still haven't learned.   If you don't use MS Office, the form can't
even be OPENED, open office says it's "password protected" and "read only"
and exits.




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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: [WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up


> I remember what a bleepstorm this was a few months back, so I'm afraid
> to say it, but what the heck.
>
> The new FCC Form 477, due on September 1st for the first half of this
> year, is now available at the usual place
> ( http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html )
>
> Remember that, as of the March 2006 filing, all broadband ISPs, even
> those with less than 250 customers, are required to file Form 477.
>
> David Smith
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[WISPA] Help Needed PtP Links

2006-07-13 Thread Jory Privett
I am starting to do some upgrades to my network and need some new Point to 
Point links.  I currently use an Orthogon Gemini Lite for a long link that I 
have.  These new links are shorter with good LOS.  I want the reliability of 
the Orthogon without the large price tag. These links will be about 15 Miles 
and I need a actual throughput of about 10M  I have been looking at the SR5 
radio from Mikrotik. Will the SR5 be able to do this reliably?  I want some 
real world info here and not just marketing hype.  Does anyone have links 
like this with the SR5?  What antenna are you using?  How is the 
performance?

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WCCS 


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RE: [WISPA] 900 radio

2006-07-13 Thread Charles Wu
>This is true as well.  Just one more tradeoff fo FHSS.

You should note that this is ~10 dB of receive sensitivty worth of trade-off
(IMO -- pretty big)

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Charles Wu wrote:

>More importantly -- from a cochannel and receiver sensitivity
>perspective -- FH doesn't get the processing gain benefits of 
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-13 Thread Sam Tetherow
Marlon, how would you have done the ethernet?  I thought you were 
restricted to basically 300 feet of ethernet without a 
switch/router/booster every 300 feet or so, or am I missing something?  
I have pole rights in town a $1/pole/yr so I'm trying to find an 
affordable use of them.


   Sam Tetherow
   Sandhills Wireless

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul.  I've not 
built my own fiber yet.  I'm sure the day is coming though.


I really screwed up a few years ago.  The town had the sidewalks all 
out down town.  I should have found the money and put some conduit in 
at that time.  I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of 
the down town businesses today!  sigh


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- Original Message - From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?



I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement
their wireless operations.  We have a couple of leads we are looking at
making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities 
get
involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the 
venture.


On or off list replys welcome.

Thanks

Mike
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Re: [WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up

2006-07-13 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
They still haven't learned.   If you don't use MS Office, the form can't
even be OPENED, open office says it's "password protected" and "read only"
and exits.




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-
- Original Message - 
From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: [WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up


> I remember what a bleepstorm this was a few months back, so I'm afraid
> to say it, but what the heck.
>
> The new FCC Form 477, due on September 1st for the first half of this
> year, is now available at the usual place
> ( http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html )
>
> Remember that, as of the March 2006 filing, all broadband ISPs, even
> those with less than 250 customers, are required to file Form 477.
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?

2006-07-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We use dry copper, wireless, fiber and dsl for backhaul.  I've not built my 
own fiber yet.  I'm sure the day is coming though.


I really screwed up a few years ago.  The town had the sidewalks all out 
down town.  I should have found the money and put some conduit in at that 
time.  I could have ethernet or fiber connections to all of the down town 
businesses today!  sigh


Marlon
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42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Delp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Anyone mixing fiber with your wireless deployments?



I am looking to talk with someone that has laid some fiber to complement
their wireless operations.  We have a couple of leads we are looking at
making some short hop backbones between towers, and having the cities get
involved as a customer of fiber, and hopefully it will pay for the 
venture.


On or off list replys welcome.

Thanks

Mike
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Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues

2006-07-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181



Hm.  I'll bet it's that sonic wall 
somehow.  Might also have Butch check the firewalling on your mt 
box.
 
Marlon(509) 
982-2181   
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
(Vonage)    
Consulting services42846865 
(icq)    
And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott Reed 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:58 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video 
  issues
  Inline Scott Reed Owner NewWays 
  Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration 
  www.nwwnet.net 
  -- Original Message --- From: "Marlon 
  K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA 
  General List"  Sent: Wed, 12 
  Jul 2006 08:57:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > 
  Hm.  What router do you use? Mikrotik for 
  internal, Cisco at the border  What firewalling are you 
  doing?  SonicWall 2040 - I have it set to log all local traffic that 
  it blocks and there is nothing in the log. What are you using for 
  upstream connectivity? Qwest T-1 >   > Marlon 
  > (509) 
  982-2181  
     
      Equipment sales > (408) 
  907-6910 
  (Vonage)  
     Consulting services > 42846865 
  (icq)  
     
   And I run my own wisp! 
  > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless 
  > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam 
  >   > >   
  > 
- Original Message - > From: Scott Reed > To: WISPA General 
List > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:47 AM > 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > Mainly because it is not my call.  The setup is being done by a 
computer consultant.  He setup the machine that went to Iraq and the 
one locally.  Now they don't talk.  But he can talk to the one in 
Iraq from his office (not on my network.)  So, my concern is that there 
may be an issue with my network that will impact other customers trying to 
do video on AIM. > > Scott Reed > Owner > 
NewWays > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation 
and Administration > www.nwwnet.net > > -- Original 
Message --- > From: Carl A Jeptha 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: WISPA General List 
 > Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:33:17 -0400 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > > I know 
there is AIM issue, why not try skype, it may be better and the do video 
also. > > You have a Good Day 


> 
now,

> 
> Carl A 


> 
Jeptha

> http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 

349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 

377-6900
skype 

cajeptha
> > > > Scott Reed wrote: 
So, does anyone have any idea why MS works and 
  AOL doesn't? > > I need to know, not just for this customer, but 
  it would seem at this time there is an issue with my network that I should 
  address before it impacts anyone else. > > > > Scott 
  Reed > > Owner > > NewWays > > Wireless 
  Networking > > Network Design, Installation and Administration 
  > > www.nwwnet.net > > > > -- 
  Original Message --- > > From: "Blake Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 
  > To: "WISPA General List"  > 
  > Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:30:02 -0500 > > Subject: Re: 
  [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > > > > No security 
  issues.   There are thousands of Morale computers with internet 
  > > > connections available.  Great > > > 
  way to keep in contact with loved ones. > > > > > 
  > - Original Message - > > > From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 
  To: "WISPA General List"  > 
  > > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:22 AM > > > 
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > > > > 
  > I know the POINT, but the PRACTICE is what I'm questioning.   
  Talk about > > > insecurity. > > > > > 
  >  _ > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On > > > Behalf Of Scott Reed > > > Sent: 
  Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:01 AM > > > To: WISPA General 
  List > > > Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > 
  > > > > > So he can see his kids. > > > 
  > > > Scott Reed > > > Owner > > > 
  NewWays > > > Wireless Networking > > > Network 
  Design, Installation and Administration > > > www.nwwnet.net  
  > > > > > > -- Original Message 
  --- > > > From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 
  To: "WISPA General List"  > 
  > > Sent: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:50:58 -0400 > > > 
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] AIM Video issues > > > > > 
  > > > > > > dunno, but why is AIM on that computer 
  in Iraq !? > > > > > > > > > > 
  >  _ > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On > > > Behalf Of Scott Reed > > > > Sent: 
  Wednesd

Re: [WISPA] 900 radio

2006-07-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I have a link that I tested with 2.4.  I could get about a -88 signal.  It 
might have worked.  Ap is 17 dB with a 13dB 120* sector.  CPE was a lucent 
radio with 24dB grid.


That same link is now running Trango wireless.  8 dB integrated antennas and 
26dB radio output.  We get -75ish with the 900 mhz gear.


900 is cool stuff if there's ANYTHING in the way!

laters,
Marlon
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- Original Message - 
From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 radio


I run every email through my BGLASS model fact checker - that takes care of 
the facts.  :^)


I haven't installed any yet.  I've been waiting for Tranzeo to do 900 this 
long, and it isn't much longer now.   Unfortunately, we have had to 
un-install five or six customers in the last month because our overzealous 
installers did some installs that worked in the winter and quit working as 
soon as the trees got completely leafed in.  I'm hoping to get a few of 
them back with the 900 stuff.


I'm with you - I need a break too.  Not sure where or when, but we will 
have to get something figured out!


Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What?  You mean EVERYTHING on these lists isn't factual?
Matt have you installed any 900 yet?  Probably not too much need out 
there

where the trees don't grow?  Out there in Wireless Paradise!

We should get together this fallI'm in need of a break!

Later, Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Founding Member of WISPA
 -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 radio

This is not true.  The Tranzeo 900mhz radios can use 20, 10 or 5mhz 
channels.  They only use it all up if that is how you configure it.


Matt Larsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Blair Davis wrote:

I've looked at the specs for these units.  They eat the ENTIRE 900MHz 
band as one channel.


Carl A Jeptha wrote:


Contact WAV for pricing on Tranzeo 900 802.11g. My Rep. in Canada is 
Claudio Ricci.


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Butch Evans wrote:



On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Blair Davis wrote:


Hoppers don't play nice with Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum.  On the 
other hand, hoppers can get through more noise


While this is almost accurate, it is not exacly right.  FHSS can cause 
serious problems for a DSSS system, as the hopper runs across the 
band.  HOWEVER, DSSS will trash about 30% of that spectrum for the 
hopper.  (At least that is the approximate ratio for the 2.4GHz 
range.)  Having said that, FHSS in 900 DOES make a lot of sense, so 
long as you have the ability to choose where it hops.










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Re: [WISPA] 900 radio

2006-07-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

EC also carries Tranzeo gear.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Carl A Jeptha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 radio


Contact WAV for pricing on Tranzeo 900 802.11g. My Rep. in Canada is 
Claudio Ricci.


You have a Good Day now,


Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
office 905 349-2084
Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900
skype cajeptha



Butch Evans wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Blair Davis wrote:

Hoppers don't play nice with Direct Sequence Spread Spectrum.  On the 
other hand, hoppers can get through more noise


While this is almost accurate, it is not exacly right.  FHSS can cause 
serious problems for a DSSS system, as the hopper runs across the 
band.  HOWEVER, DSSS will trash about 30% of that spectrum for the 
hopper.  (At least that is the approximate ratio for the 2.4GHz 
range.)  Having said that, FHSS in 900 DOES make a lot of sense, so 
long as you have the ability to choose where it hops.



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[WISPA] New FCC Form 477 is up

2006-07-13 Thread David E. Smith
I remember what a bleepstorm this was a few months back, so I'm afraid
to say it, but what the heck.

The new FCC Form 477, due on September 1st for the first half of this
year, is now available at the usual place
( http://www.fcc.gov/formpage.html )

Remember that, as of the March 2006 filing, all broadband ISPs, even
those with less than 250 customers, are required to file Form 477.

David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Message from Alex Huppenthal

2006-07-13 Thread John Scrivner
For some reason Alex is having trouble posting to the WISPA General List 
so here is what he was trying to send:


Alex wrote,

I aon't write for this list any longer, but thought I'd drop in some 
thoughts that may be useful to you.  Perhaps useful to those of you who 
are just getting into being and ISP.


I'd like to know what the list members think of 
http://www.freepress.net/content/about


Freepress.net have a site that can fire off an email to your Rep or  
Senator. You select the topic of concern, click a couple of buttons and 
off goes a canned letter  to your Representative or Congress-person.


Several questions come to mind which I’d like you to answer.   First, 
are the issues on FreePress.net  of concern to the Wireless list 
membership? I see at least 2 I’m personally doing something about.  The 
Telcom Act and Net Neutrality.  If Net Neutrality means keeping the 
number and types of Web sites high, then I’m all for it. Is there a good 
reason to limit or block any site? Is the Internet supposed to be 
governed by Free Speech. If you can’t get your message to the world 
because backbone carriers decided that your message will be queued 
behind theirs and there are 3 main carriers (as there are telcos and 
energy companies), is this a matter of free speech? 

IMHO, the Internet should remain open, unfettered by legislation so long 
as there remains a competitive, open environment at all levels. I'm not  
sure it can be legislated, but certainly congress can adopt a  position 
on the subject, and the FCC can establish guidelines.


If you decide you want to keep a level playing field what does that 
mean? Backbone providers are working hard to exclude competition, so 
goes the take-back of DSL circuits, the rising prices of T1 and other 
Telco/Backbone/DSL/webhosting/Conglomerate ‘assets’. Consolidation makes 
money for investors. It doesn’t create incentive for innovation.


So there’s my nutshell for Net Neutrality. Allow consolidation, which in 
turn creates lower competition, which defuses innovation, which reduces 
arguments for more spectrum which reduces competition, and then apply 
new tiered prices for video, audio, text, images, hosting, VoIP, and 
other innovations, which raises revenues for new massive Telco/Cable 
monopolies, which puts capital - read power - back into the hands of the 
companies who in general languished for 50 years in the monopolies, 
content to tell you that your Central Office was going to get Voice 
Mail, Call forward or anything other than dial tone,  in 8-12 years, if 
you are lucky, and don’t make them ‘mad’.


We all need to excite investors. However, innovation is where 
investment needs to go. I see Net Neutrality as a statement of position 
in that respect. Is it a matter of Free Speech? Nope, its a matter of 
Federal Trade Commission snoozing on the job. Its a statement that 
Podcasting, Videocasting, Screencasting, VoIP, and other innovative 
applications need to be treated without taxation or burdens of higher 
fees in tiered pricing. There is currently a model for bandwidth usage 
that accounts for this variance in load, and its been in use for over 8 
years. 

For any of you that were a part of the pre Commercial Internet -  
roughly prior to 1992. You know that there were guidelines and  rules 
about how the Internet could be used. These rules were  enforced by the 
regional network you were going to connect to.  You applied to the 
regional network for access. In Texas we'd  have to get a connection 
from a local University.


As it was I connected via UUCP to a friendly Admin at AT&T and 
registered comsys.com as my domain in 1986. I provided email and news 
exchanges through an SCO Unix box and a couple of slow speed modems.


In those days, peering was something done with dial-up  connections and 
discussions with others - specifically the Dallas Lunch Bunch.


It appears to me today, the Terms of Service / Use that any ISP offers, 
from ourselves (Aspenworks is a small regional ISP) to  Earthlink or 
AOL. The terms of service are now up to the ISP. You  can as an ISP 
declare you are not allowing any ports other than  80 21 25 maybe a 
couple others, and that your service provides a  maximum of 250K bits on 
FTP.


You can declare whatever you like. That's net neutrality.  No  
regulation works and free market rules, with *one* condition.   That 
condition is that small operators, small media producers,  small server 
operators are treated on a level playing field.


Net Neutrality works when the FTC is doing its job. Just like 
innovation works when free enterprise is allowed to flourish in a  
healthy competitive environment.  You can apply whatever billing rule 
you want, so long as there is true competition. Then you have choices 
which likely include the price model you want.


My opinion is that the Internet is at risk from consolidation. In 
energy and telco telcom, is allowed to take place totally unbridled. The 
result is higher e

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread Mac Dearman
Very Good!!

We are gonna have a blowout. I am looking for a live band - - I wonder what
Scriv is doing? - - hey Scriv!

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

Heck, You know us down here, we are always game for a party. Looking forward
to it.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock


> Cliff,
>
>   You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to
get
> here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know
> that Y'all are all special :-)
>
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
>
> Mac, I would be interested in attending...
> How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)
>
>
>
> On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor
> Day.
> > It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
> enjoy.
> > Bring your fishing pole...etc
> >
> > All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!
> >
> > Mac Dearman
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Laura
Heck, You know us down here, we are always game for a party. Looking forward
to it.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock


> Cliff,
>
>   You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to
get
> here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know
> that Y'all are all special :-)
>
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:55 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock
>
> Mac, I would be interested in attending...
> How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)
>
>
>
> On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor
> Day.
> > It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
> enjoy.
> > Bring your fishing pole...etc
> >
> > All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!
> >
> > Mac Dearman
> >
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RE: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

2006-07-13 Thread Mac Dearman
Cliff,

  You, Johnny and Joe will have to travel North (nasty word) of I-10 to get
here whereas the whole rest of the world will be traveling South. You know
that Y'all are all special :-)

Mac 

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Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Woodstock

Mac, I would be interested in attending...
How do I get DOWN to Louisiana from where I live? (duh) :)



On 7/12/06 6:18 PM, "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We are trying to get a "Wireless Woodstock" reunion out here for Labor
Day.
> It is wide open for anyone to come out, sit down, eat, drink and just
enjoy.
> Bring your fishing pole...etc
> 
> All of you ought to try to make down here to Louisiana!!
> 
> Mac Dearman
> 

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