Can you elaborate Travis.
What do you mean by unlimited?
If a sub downloads say 50 gigs in a month, do you not bother them unless
they are impacting an ap, or do you let them keep on going?
George
Travis Johnson wrote:
The unlimited model seems to be working for us for almost 10 years now
It seems premature to suggest that Clearwire is tanking. When you
consider that an additional 4 million shares were issued and that the
overall market is currently down, I think their stock has move as
expected. I bought in at $20.68 and am quite happy with my position.
-Matt
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Unless they are causing a problem with other customers, we just let them
go. 99% of the time the issue is an upload running (p2p, virus, etc.)
but if they are just downloading, it's fine with me.
Travis
George Rogato wrote:
Can you elaborate Travis.
What do you mean by unlimited?
If a sub
Matt Liotta wrote:
It seems premature to suggest that Clearwire is tanking. When you
consider that an additional 4 million shares were issued and that the
overall market is currently down, I think their stock has move as
expected. I bought in at $20.68 and am quite happy with my position.
The problem is not giving unlimited capacity.
The problem is guaranteeing the customers promised perception of speed.
Charging per MB or GB transferred does not necessarilly solve the problem.
A Denial Of Service type attack or port scanner type appication, can bring a
network down to its knees,
I've got a remote rural location where we're thinking of putting up a
100' tower on a mountain owned by a large customer. Turns out that
location can see one of our existing networks, which is great.
However, the customer has extremely poor (or non-existent) cell phone
coverage and would like
Thats the way I do it as well.
Travis Johnson wrote:
Unless they are causing a problem with other customers, we just let them
go. 99% of the time the issue is an upload running (p2p, virus, etc.)
but if they are just downloading, it's fine with me.
Travis
George Rogato wrote:
Can you
First of all just because you don't have a signal does not mean a cell
carrier is waiting for you to put up a tower but that said I built a 120'
Commercial tower back 3 years ago and total cost to build was around 50k.
That was a tower to support cell and two way radio at 90mph wind load. I
think
A tower to support a cell carrier would easily approach $100,000
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:19 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] A new tower for WISP and Cell Carrier?
I've
At 11:43 AM -0400 3/14/07, Frank Watts wrote:
First of all just because you don't have a signal does not mean a cell
carrier is waiting for you to put up a tower but that said I built a 120'
Commercial tower back 3 years ago and total cost to build was around 50k.
That was a tower to support
At 10:53 AM -0500 3/14/07, JohnnyO wrote:
15K seems awful low for a tower on top of a mountain.
You can build a 100ft Rohn45/Rohn55 for 15k - on flat / level land where
there aren't any major challenges Then again - No Cell carrier I
know of would go on such a tower.
What kind of tower
Chuck,
My first impression of the situation is that your customer is seeing
dollar signs because he has heard cell companies pay big bucks to locate
on towers but does not actually realize all the costs associated with
such a tower that a cell company might possibly locate on. I have seen
First off, reception is not a good gauge. There
are many factors that play into whether or not
you can attract a carrier.
High spots used to be the king locations, but
now due to loading issues, and frequency
re-use they are not always the premier spots anymore.
No one in the business is
Correct and that I believe is what Matt's point is. Too early to kick CLWR
to the curb for at least two reasons:
(1) short term market downturn
(2) additional 4M shares issued
Both of these items can and often will soften a stock value.
All that said I think $20 - $24 a share is ridiculous
Cell carriers normally use site acquisition people, contract most
of the time. Not brokers.
Another thing that prevents them often from considering smaller
companies towers is agreements they have with the larger companies. As
an example, we have agreements with two carriers - flat rate
Brad Belton wrote:
Certainly McCaw can afford this type of bleeding, but for how long and more
importantly how long will Wall Street wait to see the light at the end of
the tunnel? Will CLWR ever bask in the sunshine?
I think you are asking the wrong question. The real question is how long
Who says they ever have to make money, for their stock to hold or increase
its value?
And who says a profit needs to be made for a company to survive long term,
when they are kept alive by the stock market?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:55:31 -0500, Brad Belton wrote
Correct and that I believe is what Matt's point is. Too early to
kick CLWR to the curb for at least two reasons:
(1) short term market downturn
(2) additional 4M shares issued
Both of these items can and often will soften a stock
Market forces dictate that Tom.
Sure there are lots of companies that don't make a profit and have some
relatively high stock prices.
But the market forces are that if a company is not a viable eventual
profit maker, then people sell those shares and the price goes down.
If the price goes down
wispa wrote:
Ok, Clearwire expects to continue to build out. They expect to spend 1.1
billion, and market hacks expect them to triple the customer base over the
next year or so.
So, even next year, they're going to spend between 3 and 4 times their gross
revenue.
What is interesting
Nothing, and why I feel the way I do about the stock. I believe CLWR will
bounce back up, but will ultimately slide downward until profits are
realized. No stock has ever been able to hold value without realizing
profits at one point or another. Why should CLWR be any different?
People
Matt Liotta wrote:
wispa wrote:
Ok, Clearwire expects to continue to build out. They expect to spend
1.1 billion, and market hacks expect them to triple the customer base
over the next year or so.
So, even next year, they're going to spend between 3 and 4 times
their gross revenue.
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:09:20 -0400, Matt Liotta wrote
wispa wrote:
Ok, Clearwire expects to continue to build out. They expect to spend 1.1
billion, and market hacks expect them to triple the customer base over
the
next year or so.
So, even next year, they're going to spend
At 12:35 PM -0400 3/14/07, Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Chuck,
My first impression of the situation is that your customer is seeing
dollar signs because he has heard cell companies pay big bucks to
locate on towers but does not actually realize all the costs
associated with such a tower that a cell
At 12:03 PM -0500 3/14/07, Blake Bowers wrote:
Cell carriers normally use site acquisition people, contract most
of the time. Not brokers.
I used the wrong term (not being in the business). That's essentially
what I meant. I've come across the site acq. people before.
Another thing that
Not to compare it to a skunk, but look at Vonage stock.
Tanked quick despite their accounting methods.
(Sure some of that was from the patent lawsuit, but it was fading before
that).
- Peter
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George Rogato wrote:
wispa wrote:
It depends on who provides you the figures...
People go to jail when those figures are wrong.
Sometimes they do.
The key to GAAP Accounting is that you have to be consistent.
SO if in your first quarter you decide that hardware is in this column
and
Peter R. wrote:
Not to compare it to a skunk, but look at Vonage stock.
Tanked quick despite their accounting methods.
(Sure some of that was from the patent lawsuit, but it was fading before
that).
- Peter
Yeah, but Vonage also shot itself in the foot on IPO
We will offer refunds if our
Please welcome another new WISPA Vendor Member - ValuePoint Networks.
For many of us the challenge of meeting the goals of delivering the
hotspot, hospitality, MDU and Muni Wi-Fi markets is a bit outside our
normal realm. We are used to owning our infrastructure and selling
Internet
Isn't Clearwire's value irrelevent? If we have lots of extra money sitting
around to invest, shouldn't we be investing it in ourselves for a higher
return and less risk?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Brad Belton
It's largely irrelevant to me as I don't own CLWR or have any immediate
plans to own any shares.
As for our industry I believe CLWR's value and performance could have some
impact on future fixed wireless ventures public or private. Bankers and
investors alike will look at CLWR and may be more
Marlon,
Youre starting to sound more and more like the AOL audio log on message
... Welcome!
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Depends what the Cell co puts in, I have seen small Cell sites around
here on 80' and 100' poles
Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Tom DeReggi wrote:
Isn't Clearwire's value irrelevent? If we have lots of extra money
sitting around to invest, shouldn't we be investing it in ourselves
for a higher return and less risk?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
Actually, if you have lots of
Tom,
I think your PC or laptop clock is off.
Did you ever reset or patch for Daylight Savings time this past Sunday AM?
BTW, did anyone notice that recurring outlook appointments were messed
up with the new DST?
- Peter
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When I was with ATT we budgeted $150k per 100' monopole...
On 3/14/07, Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A tower to support a cell carrier would easily approach $100,000
Thank You,
Brian Webster
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And the stock market has been kept alive by the U.S Federal Reserve
printing too much money (inflation of the money supply) and by the yen
carry trade where people borrow money at 0.5% in Japan and invest it
into stock markets where they hope to make 20% in speculative profits.
This carry
There is a fix for Outlook also, you have to dl and run an app.
Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 3:05 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] clock
Tom,
Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the right
time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time.
I just unchecked the adjust for daylight savings button, to see if it
helps.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original
Thats funny, didn't notice my clock off till just now.
Is there something wrong with xp's clock?
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the
right time, and it keeps jumping back to the old time.
I just unchecked the adjust for daylight savings
oh yeah, time.gov usually has the right time :)
George Rogato wrote:
Thats funny, didn't notice my clock off till just now.
Is there something wrong with xp's clock?
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Yeah its really wierd, I changed my clock 4 times today to reflect the
right time, and it keeps jumping
Brad,
Excellent Point. The industry clearly needs more successes, not failures.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 14,
In case everyone missed it, Congress in it's mighty wisdom changed the dates
of Daylight savings time. It was normally due two weeks from now. Go to
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com to update your old skool windoze boxes.
Most OS's just use NTP to keep up to date. Check with your OS update
Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made
contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full
power and used circular polarity.They stated they were
Outlook with Exchange Server is different, as opposed to Outlook by itself.
Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wow, so the bad PR worked, eh?
When you meet their guy, let him know we just want to get along ;) -
get his name number, invite him to dinner and make friends. It's
always good to get a guy on the inside!
On 3/14/07, Ray Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their
system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to
sniffing out the
Also report back what actually was done as I also have a walmart and a
900 system.
You have a Good Day now,
Carl A Jeptha
http://www.airnet.ca
Office Phone: 905 349-2084
Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm
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Dylan Oliver wrote:
Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in
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