I have a potential customer that wanted to try out my service. He's got
money, so I wasn't afraid he was looking to get something for nothing. He has
Cingular now and can only get 125 - 175 kbit out of it. I clearly can provide
a faster less latent service for a lower monthly cost (costs him
Even if he can't get out of the Cingular contract, I would think paying
you your normal rates would cost less than $1200 to Cingular. Suggest
that your unlimited service is still less expensive than overages.
Mike Hammett wrote:
I have a potential customer that wanted to try out my service.
oh, I'm most certainly under $1200, even for a whole year. :-p
Anyone have experience getting out of a bad Cingular deal?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Scott Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
Marlon,
I have been reading the WISPA CALEA FAQ and was a little concerned about
question #10. If the LEA does not know who the suspect is using an open
access point does this mean that everyone that has used that access
point will have their data handed over to the LEA? It would seem that if
Trying to help someone out of a contract is illegal (unless you are
their legal counsel). Ask your attorney if you want confirmation of
this. The better approach is to sell your service in addition to the
existing service. Tell him this provides a backup service in case one or
the other is
Not all alternatives are costly (Lawyer) or illegal. Although the third link
does broach on some moral grey areas.
http://www.celltradeusa.com/
http://www.chipchick.com/2006/05/how_to_get_out_.html
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-out-of-a-Cellular-Service-Contract
David
-Original Message-
Michael Erskine (804) 436-9428 wrote:
LOL. I see I ruffled a few feathers. Of course that works both ways.
You kind of like that.
I guess you didn't actually read the FAQ or you would understand how
it was actually realized. The last markup on the WISPA FAQ was done
by the FBIs CALEA
The contract has the termination penalty written in it.
For cell phones it is usually $150-$300.
I don't know about data cards, but likely the same thing.
Mike Hammett wrote:
oh, I'm most certainly under $1200, even for a whole year. :-p
Anyone have experience getting out of a bad Cingular
Our current cell contract is 50% of the remaining contract price. So if
you have a $50/month contract with 12 months left, you would owe $300 to
get out.
Travis
Microserv
Peter R. wrote:
The contract has the termination penalty written in it.
For cell phones it is usually $150-$300.
I don't
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:37 -0400, Dawn DiPietro wrote:
Marlon,
I have been reading the WISPA CALEA FAQ and was a little concerned about
question #10. If the LEA does not know who the suspect is using an open
access point does this mean that everyone that has used that access
point will
I have been reading the WISPA CALEA FAQ and was a little concerned about
question #10. If the LEA does not know who the suspect is using an open
access point does this mean that everyone that has used that access
point will have their data handed over to the LEA? It would seem that if
the LEA is
It's hard for me to believe he can't get out of his contract.
A customer of ours told me a couple years ago that there is some laws,
maybe just in Oregon, not sure, that eliminate the early termination fees.
I would dig deeper, there is no freaking way that you can be sold
something like a
Wow... I guess I'm more of a person of my word. If I sign a contract
that says I'm going to be billed for overage, etc. and then I go over, I
pay the bill. Apparently some people's signature (or handshake) isn't
worth anything. :(
Travis
Microserv
George Rogato wrote:
It's hard for me to
Peter Radizeski has been suspended from WISPA mailing lists for violations
to the following list etiquette rules:
Rules and Penalties are as follows:
1) Always be civil and professional. (Violations: One Warning then One Week
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2) No rude comments.
What a rip! Sprint told me it's only $300-400 to get out of a Sprint
contract. What's it cost to early terminate a Cingular contract? Why
doesn't he just terminate? Getting a $1200 monthly bill is ridiculous!
UNLIMITED data to a Sprint windows phone is only about $10/month, and
there's no
Yeah, way cool.
We need to post that on the public list though!
Marlon
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George Rogato wrote:
Words huh, thats the issue isn't it. You know how this stuff works, a
customer calls cingular, sprint, verizon, and they get told barely the
facts and then their bill comes in much higher with added costs.
This only happens if you don't read the contract. (I feel that
This is not the sense that I get from the meeting we had with the FBI.
They will know who the target is and be issuing an order for that
person. However, if they happen to live with several people all on one
wireless network, then the traffic is going to be mixed most likely. The
best you can
I was able to get out of ours when I moved 6 phones to another company. I
had a whole host of reasons beyond what you have but one thing that the new
company told me that's been helpful is to claim that there's another
alternative that meets needs they can't.
tell them that you HAVE to have
That's likely not the issue Travis. I think most here are. Having just
left Cingular, the name also applies to the benefits of the contracts.
Cingularly on the side of the cell co.
I beat them up on their really crappy service levels and such lately. If
they want a contract that says I
Hi Dawn,
Please let me preface this by saying that there are not always easy answers.
And we can't always come up with a pre-made solution for every situation
that may arise. We've talked with the FBI about all of these issues. We
all know what the law says, and we all know what's actually
David
It's widely known Qwest has 1.5 meg and 6 meg service here, 1.5 megs
being the standard offering. Verizon has more dead spots than swiss cheese.
To tell a sub that it's faster than dsl and available everywhere is the
biggest stretch I can think of.
Which is the point, if you make a
Guys,
As we wireless operators know, the costs of licensed networks
(equipment, antennas and licensing) makes providing services to the
majority of subscribers prohibitively expensive, and the cost at auction
for spectrum (for WiMax and 4G products) is beyond the reach of most of
us.
To
Sounds like a great idea. I only have one issue from what I read here, $500
per link seems high. Most ISPs complain about the $250 they pay now for
CPEs.
Jory Privett
WCCS
- Original Message -
From: michael mulcay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, May 10,
Sounds like an ad too. :-)
Jory Privett wrote:
Sounds like a great idea. I only have one issue from what I read
here, $500 per link seems high. Most ISPs complain about the $250
they pay now for CPEs.
Jory Privett
WCCS
- Original Message - From: michael mulcay
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
For resi customers I can see the expense being an issue.
But for wisps infrastructure, not so much of an issue if the bandwidth
is high enough.
George
Jory Privet wrote:
Sounds like a great idea. I only have one issue from what I read here,
$500 per link seems high. Most ISPs complain
Maybe a little bit, but the guy was asking for our help to get the FCC
to look at something that might benefit the WISP Industry.
Lonnie
On 5/10/07, Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like an ad too. :-)
Jory Privett wrote:
Sounds like a great idea. I only have one issue from
Thank you Mike. I met Mike at the last WCA show and was fascinated by
his concept of turning spectrum which is normally relegated to only
point to point use to be allowed for use as point to multi point WiMAX
or similar use. This is an awesome opportunity for WISPs to gain access
to spectrum
The $500 license gives you the ability to launch service over an entire
large geography serving hundreds of clients. Right Mike?
Scriv
Jory Privett wrote:
Sounds like a great idea. I only have one issue from what I read
here, $500 per link seems high. Most ISPs complain about the $250
What do you mean? I have been talking to him for two months about this.
Where did you get that this is an ad? I asked him to post this message
to get a feel for how WISPs would respond. He even sent it to me for
review prior to sending it out here. I guess I am having trouble
understanding why
Scriv,
After rereading this I was mistaken. My apologies for my comment.
Regards,
Dawn DiPietro
John Scrivner wrote:
What do you mean? I have been talking to him for two months about
this. Where did you get that this is an ad? I asked him to post this
message to get a feel for how WISPs
I couldn't find specific information on certification, but I found this
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1862691,00.asp
John
Gino Villarini wrote:
I saw some FCC certs for Cisco gear in 5.4 ghz, but I bet theyre for
indoor use. Outdoor ptmp cert gear has yet to be seen
Gino A.
I have a client needing a broadband connection in Hamilton, OH. Anyone out
there? All my searches are coming up empty.
Respectfully,
Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA
--
WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Interesting idea...
Question I would have is equipment costs...right now, FCC rules
pertaining to 6 GHz Part 101 equipment operations (barring the 6' dish
requirement) drastically increases gear pricing...I would think it to be
an extremely uphill battle to get these regulations relaxed
-Charles
This is one of the things that has always bothered me when it comes to
wire tapping a data connection. On a phone call it can be pretty easy
to tell if your suspect is involved in the conversation, assuming they
have not used a voice modulator. But when it comes to a data
connection, how do
Sam,
The evidence that LEAs collect is just part of a case. If a suspect is
doing bad things then data will be collected. Next steps would usually
involve a warrant to get the computer and have it looked over. I have
seen other tools used by LEAs to gather evidence. I am guessing that
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