Re: [WISPA] sputnik

[Jerry Richardson]

We used them for a while. If all you want is AAA, they are OK.

We use Silver Lining http://www.silverliningnetworks.com. They have a
AAA / Advertizing solution that is unlike anything else out there. Being
network guys and not developers the partnership is perfect - we provide
the network, they provide the back end and we get the lion's share.

Free service is ad-supported. What makes Silver Lining so powerful is
that rather than periodic redirects to an ad page, Silver Lining injects
ads into the browser window. Ads can be from the Microsoft Ad Center,
Google Adwords, Yahoo Publisher network as well as ads by local vendors.
They are developing keyword detection so that they can get even more
targeted.

We expect to generate 2000/mo+ initially from the advertizing alone with
the # of advertizers growing monthly.

They handle the paid service AAA and payment processing. Paid services
are $2/1hr, $3/4hr, $5/24hr, $20/mo. I have been watching the charges
come in - not as fast as I would like, however it's increasing.

We have been in beta for a couple of months, but I can't think of
another group of people I'd rather work with. Can't say enough good
things about them.

The best contact there is Fred Moyer - f...@silverliningnetworks.com
 
 
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airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:15 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] sputnik

Anybody have any experience with this outfit?  
http://www.sputnik.com
I see StreakWave and Ubiquity have 'joined' with them.
 
Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
  cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High
Speed Broadband to Rural Central California
 



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Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

[Jerry Richardson]

Funny you should ask.

2 years ago I had to abandon 2.4 due to the noise floor creeping up.
Since then the 5.7 noise floor has been climbing and the 2.4 spectrum
went back down and is usable again.

Go figure


 
 
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

Who uses 2.4 GHz anymore?  When I started almost 4 years ago, I chose 5
GHz because of the potential for 2.4 GHz noise and the lack of spectrum.


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From: "Chuck Hogg" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:11 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

> You don't have enough channel overlap with 90 degree sectors in 2.4,
> 5Ghz probably ok...but not 2.4 ?
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:01 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count
>
> Interference protection is exactly why I went with 90*.  Not that
> there's
> much to be worried about where I am, but I figured it a better
decision
> to
> overbuild.  That and extra capacity, something most WISPs don't
engineer
>
> for.
>
> The omnis are only for small areas, of a half mile or less.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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>
>
>
> --
> From: "Jack Unger" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:34 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Just my 2 cents worth (after 50 years of RF experience).
>>
>> In many cases, four 90-degree sectors is a waste of money. You will
> have
>> more sector overlap than need. Three 120-degree sectors is just as
>> effective and costs less.
>>
>> A single omni is normally a bad idea. You have no protection from
>> interference coming in from any direction.
>>
>> jack
>>
>>
>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> Since Patrick posed that question about cost for a typical 3 sector
>>> tower, I ask the following question:
>>>
>>> How many sectors is typical for you?
>>>
>>> My answer is 4x 90*, unless it's a small area repeater, which is
then
> a
>>> single omni, or different as that situation requires.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
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>>>
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Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness

[Chuck McCown - 3]

There are pseudo square waves on ethernet.  Those have an infinite number of 
harmonics. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Rohrbacher 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness


  I installed a cat5 cable next to a guys police scanner one time and as soon 
as I plugged the cable (lan cable from poe to computer) in the police scanner 
stayed "keyed up" on 15o or 155 mhz as I remember.  Unplugged the cable and the 
scanner started scanning again, so I always thought it was 150 some mhz.

  Brian

  Marlon K. Schafer wrote: 
So far all I can find on the internet is that ethernet is at either 12.5 or 
31.25mhz.  NOT 350, that's gigE, not 10/100.

Also, this tower is a 100' wooden pole.  Can't move anywhere really.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Goodman" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness


  It also sounds like there is a new leak in the waveguide. One more
thing you might try is to move the cable from leg to leg on the tower
so that you variable length sections that do not resonate at 350MHz or
~100MHz (FM transminssion).


On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Adam Goodman  wrote:
We also colocate with an FM transmitter. Only 1300W though. we also
had interference on our Ethernet lines. We solved it by moving radios
away from the FM antenna (3 feet or so on a 90' tower) We also
installed ferrits which helped (I actually used a conduit pipe).
Grounding the cat5 helped too.

I would think that if you find that you need more shielding. put all
your cat5 cables in a conduit and install abreakout box at the top of
the tower. If your area is prone to electrical storms (where isn't
these days?!) you will at some point be very sorry you didn't grount
(and well!!)



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Marlon K. Schafer  
wrote:
  Hi All,

I think we finally have this all figured out.  Now I just have to figure 
out
how to fix it.

We've been up there for over 6 years now.  It's certainly been a 
problematic
site though.  Constant channel changes (we have 3 competitors a mile 
away
and pick up hundreds of ap's from in town) are the norm.

This fall (a month or two ago) one of the tenants left the building. 
This
cleared out most of the hardware that was in there.  A little bit before
that I replaced an Inscape Data and a smartBridges combo with a single 
MT
access point, using one of the cables that had been working for one of 
the
other two.

About a week ago things started to really act up.  Multiple devices were
having trouble.  I was able to catch it in the act finally.  This time 
the
problem wasn't a wireless issue, the devices were constantly 
disconnecting
and reconnecting at the switch level.

I pulled the Cisco switch out and dropped in a Netgear unit.  That 
didn't
fix it.  Next I put in a Digital Loggers rack mount reboot device.  That
wouldn't connect right either.

I finally had to pull all of the hardware off of the shelf and set most 
of
it on the floor (or just let it hang there) to get it working at all 
well.
Still not perfect but better.

I had by now hiked up there through sometimes knee deep snow 3 or 4 
times.
Next I took a motorbike with studded snow tires up and got permission to
turn down the power to the radio station.  That didn't fix the problem
either.

Next I borrowed a snowmobile and hauled some help and my spectrum 
analyzer
up.  I was unable to see any signals that didn't belong.

Next day, another hike up the hill.

OK, maybe a cat 5 cable went bad and I'm getting backfeed through the
switch.  DC current or something.  So I started testing the cables that 
run
to the most problematic units.  Well now, look at that.  Bad cable.  In 
fact
there are three of them.  Hmmm, kinda strange though.  All three have 
the
exact same fault!  Oh well, better change them out anyway.  I ran three 
new
cable runs and just for kicks I tested one of them.  What the heck? 
The
new cable has the EXACT same fault as the old one!  Even though it 
didn't
follow the exact same path as the old cables.

Man, this is sure looking like a problem caused by the radio station.  I 
was
using indoor cat5 and didn't run lightning protection or ground 
anything.
Yeah I know, but remember that this has been there for a very long time 
like
this.  And as a guy with an electrical background I know that there are
actually two ways to deal with stray electrical.  Grounding is one.
Insulating is another  Anyway, I know it wasn't built to specs.

I added some grounding and that didn't help at all.

Yesterday I finally had one of the local wireless companies (Day 
Wireless)
that mainly does VHF radios, backhaul etc.  They also checked things 
with
the spectrum analyzer but couldn't find anything amiss.  I was able to
duplicate the wiring fault for them (with my Ideal tester).  But 
suddenly
everything cleared righ

Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help andadvicefromthosewho've done this.

[Blake Bowers]

I figured pole attachment fees would make the fiber more
costly.

I have purchased a couple of Cable TV systems that the pole
attachment fees ran as much as $11 to 15 bucks a pole per
year.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

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To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help 
andadvicefromthosewho've done this.


> In the long run, fiber is definitely cheaper.  Fiber's cost is upfront,
> whereas wireless is over time.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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>
>
> --
> From: "Blake Bowers" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help and
> advicefromthosewho've done this.
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Could the fiber company not hang fiber if the poles are out there?
>>
>> Certainly a lot cheaper.
>>
>> Still figure a wireless application would be cheaper in the long run.
>>
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help and advice
>> fromthosewho've done this.
>>
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> This is obviously a fiber bid. To get 1 Gb connectivity all the 
>>> buildings
>>> need to be a mile or less apart ideally.  If they are more than that 
>>> then
>>> you are pretty much out of luck. Yeah yeah 80 GHz will do up to 2 miles
>>> but I prefer the uptime.
>>>
>>> The fiber company will need to trebch to install facilities which will
>>> cost a bundle.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need helpandadvicefromthosewho've done this.

[lakeland]

A. The truth is out.  I was wondering who had all the money on this list!

:-)

Its always the tower guy.

LOL
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Blake Bowers" 

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:09:21 
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help
andadvicefromthosewho've done this.


I figured pole attachment fees would make the fiber more
costly.

I have purchased a couple of Cable TV systems that the pole
attachment fees ran as much as $11 to 15 bucks a pole per
year.


Don't take your organs to heaven,
heaven knows we need them down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help 
andadvicefromthosewho've done this.


> In the long run, fiber is definitely cheaper.  Fiber's cost is upfront,
> whereas wireless is over time.
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>
> --
> From: "Blake Bowers" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: ; "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help and
> advicefromthosewho've done this.
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Could the fiber company not hang fiber if the poles are out there?
>>
>> Certainly a lot cheaper.
>>
>> Still figure a wireless application would be cheaper in the long run.
>>
>> Don't take your organs to heaven,
>> heaven knows we need them down here!
>> Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: 
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...need help and advice
>> fromthosewho've done this.
>>
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> This is obviously a fiber bid. To get 1 Gb connectivity all the 
>>> buildings
>>> need to be a mile or less apart ideally.  If they are more than that 
>>> then
>>> you are pretty much out of luck. Yeah yeah 80 GHz will do up to 2 miles
>>> but I prefer the uptime.
>>>
>>> The fiber company will need to trebch to install facilities which will
>>> cost a bundle.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[os10rules]

Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary  
(gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?

Greg

On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is  
> it as
> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from  
> getting
> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is  
> using
> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if  
> you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
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Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness

[os10rules]

I'm sure if you looked at it on a spectrum analyzer you'd see the  
signal occupies a wide band of frequencies, hence it's probably  
susceptible to interference on a wide range of frequencies.

Greg


On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> OK, can we put this in plain English?  What freq. does 100meg  
> ethernet in
> full or half duplex
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness
>
>
>> With 100BASE-TX hardware, the raw bits (4 bits wide clocked at *25  
>> MHz* at
>> the MII) go through 4B5B  binary
>> encoding
>> to generate a series of 0 and 1 symbols clocked at *125 MHz* symbol
>> rate.
>> The 4B5B encoding provides DC equalization and spectrum shaping  
>> (see the
>> standard for details)[*citation
>> needed
>> *]. Just as in the 100BASE-FX case, the bits are then transferred  
>> to the
>> physical medium attachment layer using
>> NRZIencoding. However, 100BASE-TX
>> introduces an additional, medium dependent
>> sublayer, which employs MLT-3   
>> as a
>> final encoding of the data stream before transmission, resulting in a
>> maximum "fundamental frequency" of* 31.25 MHz*. The procedure is  
>> borrowed
>> from the ANSI X3.263 FDDI
>> specifications, with minor
>> discrepancies.
>> [3] 
>>
>> Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Ethernet
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> --- Henry Spencer
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So far all I can find on the internet is that ethernet is at  
>>> either 12.5
>>> or
>>> 31.25mhz.  NOT 350, that's gigE, not 10/100.
>>>
>>> Also, this tower is a 100' wooden pole.  Can't move anywhere really.
>>> marlon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Adam Goodman" 
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness
>>>
>>>
 It also sounds like there is a new leak in the waveguide. One more
 thing you might try is to move the cable from leg to leg on the  
 tower
 so that you variable length sections that do not resonate at  
 350MHz or
 ~100MHz (FM transminssion).


 On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Adam Goodman 
 wrote:
> We also colocate with an FM transmitter. Only 1300W though. we  
> also
> had interference on our Ethernet lines. We solved it by moving  
> radios
> away from the FM antenna (3 feet or so on a 90' tower) We also
> installed ferrits which helped (I actually used a conduit pipe).
> Grounding the cat5 helped too.
>
> I would think that if you find that you need more shielding. put  
> all
> your cat5 cables in a conduit and install abreakout box at the  
> top of
> the tower. If your area is prone to electrical storms (where isn't
> these days?!) you will at some point be very sorry you didn't  
> grount
> (and well!!)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <
>>> o...@odessaoffice.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I think we finally have this all figured out.  Now I just have to
>>> figure
>> out
>> how to fix it.
>>
>> We've been up there for over 6 years now.  It's certainly been a
>> problematic
>> site though.  Constant channel changes (we have 3 competitors a  
>> mile
>> away
>> and pick up hundreds of ap's from in town) are the norm.
>>
>> This fall (a month or two ago) one of the tenants left the  
>> building.
>> This
>> cleared out most of the hardware that was in there.  A little bit
>>> before
>> that I replaced an Inscape Data and a smartBridges combo with a
>> single
>> MT
>> access point, using one of the cables that had been working for  
>> one
>> of
>> the
>> other two.
>>
>> About a week ago things started to really act up.  Multiple  
>> devices
>>> were
>> having trouble.  I was able to catch it in the act finally.  This
>> time
>> the
>> problem wasn't a wireless issue, the devices were constantly
>> disconnecting
>> and reconnecting at the switch level.
>>
>> I pulled the Cisco switch out and dropped in a Netgear unit.   
>> That
>> didn't
>> fix it.  Next I put in a Digital Loggers rack mount reboot  
>> device.
>>> That
>> wouldn't connect right either.
>>
>> I f

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few other email
servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years now
someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay because
I've been getting 400-800 "mail delivery failures" from their dictionary
spam attack to my postmaster account.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary  
(gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?

Greg

On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is  
> it as
> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from  
> getting
> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is  
> using
> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if  
> you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] City School Internet Bid...needhelpandadvicefromthosewho've done this.

[Blake Bowers]

Lol...You of all people know better.

It is kind of interesting however, small rural cable systems
can be had for next to nothing - physical plant, whatever
customers are left, and the TOWER.

I get them for the tower, scrap the rest.  Make sure that the
pole attachment agreement does NOT call for removal of
the cable.  (although there are guys who will pull it for you
if the copper market is good)

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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[os10rules]

That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the  
Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian,  
Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent solution should work. Do you  
already own the Barracuda? If not you might want to consider using an  
old PC with Untangle on it since it's free.

Greg

On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

> I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few  
> other email
> servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years now
> someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay  
> because
> I've been getting 400-800 "mail delivery failures" from their  
> dictionary
> spam attack to my postmaster account.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>
> Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary
> (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is
>> it as
>> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from
>> getting
>> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is
>> using
>> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
>> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if
>> you have
>> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Don't have the outbound barracuda yet, I do have an inbound. How do you
point your mail to go to the outbound? Do you have your firewall redirect
all port 25 to the outbound or do you tell you email server to relay to the
outbound?

Kurt Fankhauser
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P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:18 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the  
Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian,  
Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent solution should work. Do you  
already own the Barracuda? If not you might want to consider using an  
old PC with Untangle on it since it's free.

Greg

On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

> I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few  
> other email
> servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years now
> someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay  
> because
> I've been getting 400-800 "mail delivery failures" from their  
> dictionary
> spam attack to my postmaster account.
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>
> Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary
> (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is
>> it as
>> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from
>> getting
>> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is
>> using
>> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
>> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if
>> you have
>> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

[RickG]

Rural. Little noise in the boondocks :)

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> Who uses 2.4 GHz anymore?  When I started almost 4 years ago, I chose 5 GHz
> because of the potential for 2.4 GHz noise and the lack of spectrum.
>
>
> -
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> From: "Chuck Hogg" 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:11 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count
>
>> You don't have enough channel overlap with 90 degree sectors in 2.4,
>> 5Ghz probably ok...but not 2.4 ?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck Hogg
>> Avolutia, LLC
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 3:01 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count
>>
>> Interference protection is exactly why I went with 90*.  Not that
>> there's
>> much to be worried about where I am, but I figured it a better decision
>> to
>> overbuild.  That and extra capacity, something most WISPs don't engineer
>>
>> for.
>>
>> The omnis are only for small areas, of a half mile or less.
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>>
>> --
>> From: "Jack Unger" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:34 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents worth (after 50 years of RF experience).
>>>
>>> In many cases, four 90-degree sectors is a waste of money. You will
>> have
>>> more sector overlap than need. Three 120-degree sectors is just as
>>> effective and costs less.
>>>
>>> A single omni is normally a bad idea. You have no protection from
>>> interference coming in from any direction.
>>>
>>> jack
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
 Since Patrick posed that question about cost for a typical 3 sector
 tower, I ask the following question:

 How many sectors is typical for you?

 My answer is 4x 90*, unless it's a small area repeater, which is then
>> a
 single omni, or different as that situation requires.


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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Mike Hammett]

It depends on the particular blacklist if it's actually true or not.

My server is blacklisted by my accountant's email service, yet doesn't say 
why and no other blacklist considers me a threat.  Attempts to remove me 
have been unsuccessful.


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From: "Kurt Fankhauser" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:11 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Subject: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as
> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting
> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using
> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>
>
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Portative Contact]

Kurt, I use a Mikrotik router to check outbound mail - here are the 
rules I used.

add action=log chain=forward comment="BLOCK SPAMMERS OR INFECTED USERS" 
disabled=no dst-port=25 log-prefix=DROPSPAM \
protocol=tcp src-address-list=spammer
add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=spammer 
address-list-timeout=1w chain=forward comment=\
"Detect and add SMTP to spammer list" connection-limit=90,32 
disabled=no dst-port=25 limit=50,3 protocol=tcp

It took me a few weeks to tune so my mail server didn't keep getting 
identified as a spammer. I didn't want it ignored as a potential for 
spam for the same issue you are having. I also use pop before smtp and  
got blacklisted last year as an infected customer sent out about 100K 
e-mails over a weekend. I logged first as above and then changed the 
action of the first rule to drop once I got it tuned.

Your mileage may vary.

Dave Hulsebus

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Don't have the outbound barracuda yet, I do have an inbound. How do you
> point your mail to go to the outbound? Do you have your firewall redirect
> all port 25 to the outbound or do you tell you email server to relay to the
> outbound?
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:18 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>
> That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the  
> Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian,  
> Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent solution should work. Do you  
> already own the Barracuda? If not you might want to consider using an  
> old PC with Untangle on it since it's free.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>   
>> I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few  
>> other email
>> servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years now
>> someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay  
>> because
>> I've been getting 400-800 "mail delivery failures" from their  
>> dictionary
>> spam attack to my postmaster account.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
>> On
>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>>
>> Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary
>> (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is
>>> it as
>>> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from
>>> getting
>>> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is
>>> using
>>> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
>>> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if
>>> you have
>>> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] Typical Sector count

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

We've been doing 3x120 in 2.4ghz and 5ghz.   Using StarOS on the X4000 
boards, it is right around $1000 for a three sector setup, and that 
includes the  AP and antennas.

Mounting hardware and labor varies according to the type of 
installation.  If it is a rooftop or other structure that doesn't 
require climbing, then the labor is usually a days worth of staff time 
to haul the gear up and point it.   I generally don't put anything over 
100' up on a tower, so if I figure a day for a crew to hang the gear, 
its about $500-$1000 for the tower crew to do that work.   Mounting 
hardware is usually a couple of DB365 clamps and metal electrical 
conduit ($100-$150).   100-150' of shielded cat-5 ($30?) goes up the 
tower to power the unit.

On the ground, a typical site will include a power controller ($150), 
Mikrotik switch ($100), UPS ($200-$500) and soon we will be putting in 
some kind of environmental sensor that my lead tech is working on (~$250).

Overall, a three sector installation for me would be composed of:

X4000 AP   $400
Antennas  $600
Labor   $800 (average)
Mounts $150
Wire $30
PowerController   $150
Switch  $100
UPS $300
SensorPack  $250
$2780

I would put it in the $2500 to $3000 ballpark.$1000 per sector, all 
in.   That sounds about right.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com




RickG wrote:
> I agree with this. For example: What should be my best tower is one of
> my worst because it is quad-sectored. I have a simular tower at
> another location that is tri-sectored and it performs better than
> expected. As far as an omni, I use them only where the spectrum is
> clean, eventually switching to sectors when the subscriber numbers
> require it.
> -RickG
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Jack Unger  wrote:
>   
>> Mike,
>>
>> Just my 2 cents worth (after 50 years of RF experience).
>>
>> In many cases, four 90-degree sectors is a waste of money. You will have
>> more sector overlap than need. Three 120-degree sectors is just as
>> effective and costs less.
>>
>> A single omni is normally a bad idea. You have no protection from
>> interference coming in from any direction.
>>
>> jack
>>
>>
>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>> 
>>> Since Patrick posed that question about cost for a typical 3 sector tower, 
>>> I ask the following question:
>>>
>>> How many sectors is typical for you?
>>>
>>> My answer is 4x 90*, unless it's a small area repeater, which is then a 
>>> single omni, or different as that situation requires.
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[os10rules]

Kurt,

Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it  
just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee?

I'm not familiar with the Barracuda but I would assume there's  
nothing you have to set up as long as nobody is doing ssl. These boxes  
can watch the smtp traffic without needing to manually configured and  
without needing to configure the client to use the box as a proxy. It  
will just watch the traffic and kill it if it's bad. It's good to use  
a service that updates it's blacklist and virus defs often. I'm  
running the Astaro ASG here and it usually gets a few updates each day.

Greg
On Jan 8, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

> Don't have the outbound barracuda yet, I do have an inbound. How do  
> you
> point your mail to go to the outbound? Do you have your firewall  
> redirect
> all port 25 to the outbound or do you tell you email server to relay  
> to the
> outbound?
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
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> P.O. Box 126
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> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:18 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>
> That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the
> Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian,
> Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent solution should work. Do you
> already own the Barracuda? If not you might want to consider using an
> old PC with Untangle on it since it's free.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few
>> other email
>> servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years  
>> now
>> someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay
>> because
>> I've been getting 400-800 "mail delivery failures" from their
>> dictionary
>> spam attack to my postmaster account.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
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>> P.O. Box 126
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>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>>
>> Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary
>> (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is
>>> it as
>>> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from
>>> getting
>>> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is
>>> using
>>> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
>>> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if
>>> you have
>>> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Matt]

> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as
> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting
> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using
> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???

Are you using Exim or what for an MTA?  With exim you can setup
rate-limit to end stuff like this.  I have exim setup to only allow a
given IP to send too 200 recipients in a 2 hour period.  Being
spammers need to send many thousand of messages to get any pay back it
makes your server of little use to them.  There is also a plugin for
Squirrelmail to limit how many messages per day each user can send
there.

I also have this in Mikrotik firewall.

/ip firewall filter
add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=spammer
address-list-timeout=6h chain=smtp comment="" connection-limit=15,32
disabled=no dst-port=25 \
protocol=tcp tcp-flags=syn
add action=tarpit chain=smtp comment="" disabled=no dst-port=25
protocol=tcp src-address-list=spammer


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[WISPA] CES 2009 Trend: Web-enabled Televisions

[Drew Lentz]

http://dvice.com/archives/2009/01/red-hot_trends.php

"After the full day of press conferences preceding the opening of the
Consumer Electronics Show (CES), there's one big trend that keeps coming up
from every electronics company hawking their wares to the press corps. They
all are cranking out TVs that can easily link up to the web.

While we've seen a trickle of attempts, plans and half-hearted hookups to
the internet in the past couple of years, this year at CES, that trickle has
turned into a torrent. Web connectivity is at the top of the hype list for
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

[Scottie Arnett]

They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my area.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown - 3" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700

>No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be 
>difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center of 
>the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was a pipe 
>looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a spring 
>loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it was a 
>pretty good system.
>- Original Message - 
>From: "3-dB Networks" 
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
>
>
>> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should only 
>> be
>> leaning back on the cage.
>>
>>
>>
>> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
>>
>>
>>
>> What happens when you fall?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> John Valenti wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
>> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
>> take a break while climbing.
>>
>> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
>> way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
>> maybe I'm missing something.
>> -John
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
>> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
>> on
>> the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
>> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness that
>> is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

[Mark McElvy]

I have the pipe type on one of my water towers, where do you get and
what do you call the device to connect to it?

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)

They use that type safety(pipe with notches) on most water tanks in my
area.

Scottie

-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown - 3" 
Reply-To: WISPA General List 
Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 13:01:50 -0700

>No but you could fall down and get so tangled up the rescue would be 
>difficult.  I have climbed caged ladders that had a pipe up the center
of 
>the ladder with small ratchet notches in it.  The arrester device was a
pipe 
>looking thing that would slide up the safety pipe/rail.  It had a
spring 
>loaded dog that would engage the notches if you fell.  I thought it was
a 
>pretty good system.
>- Original Message - 
>From: "3-dB Networks" 
>To: "'WISPA General List'" 
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
>
>
>> That's what the safety cage is for. if you fall basically you should
only 
>> be
>> leaning back on the cage.
>>
>>
>>
>> You technically shouldn't be able to fall with a safety cage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
>> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:30 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Grain leg safety cage (was Re: Tower accident)
>>
>>
>>
>> What happens when you fall?
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> John Valenti wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>> Why would you want to add a safety cable to the cage?  I'm on several
>> legs with the cages and they seem great. I usually just lean back to
>> take a break while climbing.
>>
>> It seems like an unnecessary bother, and something else to get in the
>> way while climbing the ladder.  Just curious what your thinking is,
>> maybe I'm missing something.
>> -John
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
>> the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on.  There is already one
>> on
>> the leg that has no cage.  Then we could clip on a go, with either a
>> belt or a light harness (unlike my big sit down elk river harness
that
>> is a little heavy).  Anyone run these cable before?  What is needed?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[Steve Barnes]

That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on 
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
> money, you won't regret it.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never
>> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
let
>> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
>> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400
>> for a rig.  Any suggestions. 
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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[Jerry Richardson]

http://www.discountsafetygear.com/ 


 
 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
> money, you won't regret it.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never 
>> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
let
>> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting

>> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400

>> for a rig.  Any suggestions.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[3-dB Networks]

While I have yet to buy from them... Midwest Unlimited is what the Comtrain
guys recommended over anyone.  My next order will probably be from them.

http://www.midwestunlimited.com

Daniel White
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on 
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
> money, you won't regret it.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never
>> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
let
>> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
>> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400
>> for a rig.  Any suggestions. 
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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

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Something about that name doesn't sound right :-)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jerry Richardson
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

http://www.discountsafetygear.com/ 


 
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

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Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
> money, you won't regret it.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never 
>> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
let
>> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting

>> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400

>> for a rig.  Any suggestions.
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

No my email is hosted with jumpline and I don't see any where to set an MTA

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as
> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting
> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using
> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???

Are you using Exim or what for an MTA?  With exim you can setup
rate-limit to end stuff like this.  I have exim setup to only allow a
given IP to send too 200 recipients in a 2 hour period.  Being
spammers need to send many thousand of messages to get any pay back it
makes your server of little use to them.  There is also a plugin for
Squirrelmail to limit how many messages per day each user can send
there.

I also have this in Mikrotik firewall.

/ip firewall filter
add action=add-src-to-address-list address-list=spammer
address-list-timeout=6h chain=smtp comment="" connection-limit=15,32
disabled=no dst-port=25 \
protocol=tcp tcp-flags=syn
add action=tarpit chain=smtp comment="" disabled=no dst-port=25
protocol=tcp src-address-list=spammer


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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Its another hardware box.

Kurt Fankhauser
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P.O. Box 126
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

Kurt,

Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it  
just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee?

I'm not familiar with the Barracuda but I would assume there's  
nothing you have to set up as long as nobody is doing ssl. These boxes  
can watch the smtp traffic without needing to manually configured and  
without needing to configure the client to use the box as a proxy. It  
will just watch the traffic and kill it if it's bad. It's good to use  
a service that updates it's blacklist and virus defs often. I'm  
running the Astaro ASG here and it usually gets a few updates each day.

Greg
On Jan 8, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

> Don't have the outbound barracuda yet, I do have an inbound. How do  
> you
> point your mail to go to the outbound? Do you have your firewall  
> redirect
> all port 25 to the outbound or do you tell you email server to relay  
> to the
> outbound?
>
> Kurt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:18 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>
> That should be easy. I've never used Barracuda but I have used the
> Sonicwall and also open hardware based UTMs such as Astaro, Endian,
> Untangle and ClarkConnect. Any decent solution should work. Do you
> already own the Barracuda? If not you might want to consider using an
> old PC with Untangle on it since it's free.
>
> Greg
>
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
>> I block all outgoing port 25 except to my email server and a few
>> other email
>> servers that my customers use. That stopped it for about 1-2 years  
>> now
>> someone is authorizing on my email server and then using it to relay
>> because
>> I've been getting 400-800 "mail delivery failures" from their
>> dictionary
>> spam attack to my postmaster account.
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:34 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?
>>
>> Do you block smtp on non-standard ports? Is SSL filtering necessary
>> (gmail smtp is over ssl for example)?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is
>>> it as
>>> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from
>>> getting
>>> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is
>>> using
>>> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
>>> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if
>>> you have
>>> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> WAVELINC
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[David E. Smith]

os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

>   Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it  
> just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee?

It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both jobs. 
You buy one, and you can switch the software from inbound to outbound 
(and back again).

I've been having similar issues to the OP. Several of my users' 
passwords have been compromised by horribly-screwed-up desktops, with 
spyware and viruses galore. The attackers (all of whom are coming from 
Nigerian IP space) log in via our Web site, and cut-and-paste spam that 
way. Since it comes from an authenticated user, it circumvents most of 
my normal spam filtering measures.

I've recently added SpamAssassin to my big "all our outgoing mail goes 
through here" server, set with very generous settings. I'm hoping that's 
sufficient, because I really don't want to buy a third Barracuda. (We 
already have two for inbound email, and they work quite well there; I 
assume one switched to outbound-scanning mode would work equally well.)

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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[Jerry Richardson]

Yeah, I though it a bit contradictory.looks like they have a pretty
good range of stuff. 


 
 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Something about that name doesn't sound right :-)

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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

http://www.discountsafetygear.com/ 


 
 
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Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
> money, you won't regret it.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never 
>> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
let
>> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting

>> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400

>> for a rig.  Any suggestions.
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can
tell what user's email address is compromised because all the "mail delivery
errors" I'm getting don't show one.

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www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

>   Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it  
> just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee?

It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both jobs. 
You buy one, and you can switch the software from inbound to outbound 
(and back again).

I've been having similar issues to the OP. Several of my users' 
passwords have been compromised by horribly-screwed-up desktops, with 
spyware and viruses galore. The attackers (all of whom are coming from 
Nigerian IP space) log in via our Web site, and cut-and-paste spam that 
way. Since it comes from an authenticated user, it circumvents most of 
my normal spam filtering measures.

I've recently added SpamAssassin to my big "all our outgoing mail goes 
through here" server, set with very generous settings. I'm hoping that's 
sufficient, because I really don't want to buy a third Barracuda. (We 
already have two for inbound email, and they work quite well there; I 
assume one switched to outbound-scanning mode would work equally well.)

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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[Blair Davis]

I had the exact same thought!

3-dB Networks wrote:

  Something about that name doesn't sound right :-)

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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

http://www.discountsafetygear.com/ 


 
 
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Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
  
  
I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
money, you won't regret it.

Steve Barnes wrote:


  New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never 
climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
  

  
  let
  
  

  go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
  

  
  
  
  

  harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400
  

  
  
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[John McDowell]

Ever since Midwest Unlimited was recommended, we have been buying gear from
them.

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:52 PM, 3-dB Networks  wrote:

> While I have yet to buy from them... Midwest Unlimited is what the Comtrain
> guys recommended over anyone.  My next order will probably be from them.
>
> http://www.midwestunlimited.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>  Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:44 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
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> That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
> point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
> good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
> find some competing prices.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jim Patient
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
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> Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on
> safety gear, you can't afford it.
>
> Jim
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
> > I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A
> > good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the
> > money, you won't regret it.
> >
> > Steve Barnes wrote:
> >> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never
> >> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
> let
> >> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
> >> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400
> >> for a rig.  Any suggestions.
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[David E. Smith]

Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can
> tell what user's email address is compromised because all the "mail delivery
> errors" I'm getting don't show one.

Yeah, my latest few problem children have been using our Web site, and 
cut-and-pasting in their spam, sending it out to just five or ten 
recipients at a time so as to avoid our "you're not just a spammer but a 
dumb spammer" trigger if you try to send to 1000 people at once.

How to track it down depends on the mail software you use, obviously. 
Mine (an older version of Ipswitch Imail) doesn't put any identifying 
information in the email as such (no originating IP or 
authenticated-user info). There are timestamps, though, which I can 
correlate against the Web server logs.

Right now, I'm torn between "trying to stop it at the Web server" using 
some sort of IP geolocation filter, or "stop it before it leaves the 
network" using a modified SpamAssassin installation. Both are giving me 
all kinds of fits that are way off-topic for this list.

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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[os10rules]

I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the  
annual fee as well correct?

I think I'd go with Endian on a PC. Is your spam assassin running  
native or as a virtual machine?

Greg
On Jan 8, 2009, at 2:32 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
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>>  Will getting the Barracuda outbound require more hardware or is it
>> just a service you can turn on with the current hardware for a fee?
>
> It's the same hardware, but you can't use one Barracuda to do both  
> jobs.
> You buy one, and you can switch the software from inbound to outbound
> (and back again).
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> I've been having similar issues to the OP. Several of my users'
> passwords have been compromised by horribly-screwed-up desktops, with
> spyware and viruses galore. The attackers (all of whom are coming from
> Nigerian IP space) log in via our Web site, and cut-and-paste spam  
> that
> way. Since it comes from an authenticated user, it circumvents most of
> my normal spam filtering measures.
>
> I've recently added SpamAssassin to my big "all our outgoing mail goes
> through here" server, set with very generous settings. I'm hoping  
> that's
> sufficient, because I really don't want to buy a third Barracuda. (We
> already have two for inbound email, and they work quite well there; I
> assume one switched to outbound-scanning mode would work equally  
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[David E. Smith]

os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
> I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the  
> annual fee as well correct?

Yeah, you'd have to keep up the Barracuda subscription on your outgoing 
filter as well, if you want to block "current" viruses and such from 
leaving your network.

> I think I'd go with Endian on a PC. Is your spam assassin running  
> native or as a virtual machine?

My copy of SpamAssassin is on a (virtualized, but that shouldn't matter) 
CentOS Linux system. I've basically disabled all the per-user stuff, and 
used a fairly relaxed scoring setup. Since it'll be silently discarding 
mail, I want to be pretty darn sure it's not discarding false-positives. 
Aside from a few edge cases, the whole thing works pretty well and only 
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[os10rules]

It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail.  
It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good  
smtp spam filter is never a bad idea.

Greg
On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:37 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I agree, those dedicated boxes are expensive and then there's the
>> annual fee as well correct?
>
> Yeah, you'd have to keep up the Barracuda subscription on your  
> outgoing
> filter as well, if you want to block "current" viruses and such from
> leaving your network.
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>> I think I'd go with Endian on a PC. Is your spam assassin running
>> native or as a virtual machine?
>
> My copy of SpamAssassin is on a (virtualized, but that shouldn't  
> matter)
> CentOS Linux system. I've basically disabled all the per-user stuff,  
> and
> used a fairly relaxed scoring setup. Since it'll be silently  
> discarding
> mail, I want to be pretty darn sure it's not discarding false- 
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> Aside from a few edge cases, the whole thing works pretty well and  
> only
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

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os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
> It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail.  
> It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good  
> smtp spam filter is never a bad idea.

The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The "attackers" 
are using legitimate credentials to log in and send mail.

Unfortunately, the mail software in question doesn't have rate-limits on 
a per-sender basis. I know, I should join the rest of you in the early 
21st century.

Anyone know of a reliable IIS geolocation filter? That'd solve the 
problem in an even more crazy roundabout way.

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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

[lakeland]

Definately Midwest Unlimited. Buy from a company in the tower business.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Steve Barnes" 

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:43:37 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident


That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point.  Safety over the check book.  So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear.  I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service

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Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy.  Don't go cheap on 
safety gear, you can't afford it.

Jim

Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month.  Spent $500 lanyards and harness.  A 
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe.  Spend the 
> money, you won't regret it.
>
> Steve Barnes wrote:
>> New Question on this thread.  I need a inexpensive harness.  I never
>> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to
let
>> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
>> harness".  I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400
>> for a rig.  Any suggestions. 
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
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[WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Pat O'Connor]

Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA

5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim 
gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they 
are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.

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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Blair Davis]

A pair of Mikrotiks, radio cards and all, under $1K and you should be
able to do 20Mbit.

Pat O'Connor wrote:

  
Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA

5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim 
gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they 
are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.

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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

[Al Stewart]

I know some of you are using Trango 900s. So could I trouble you for 
some observations based on your depth of experience with this 
equipment. Sort of a "simple" question.

In your experience, how many 900 SUs can a single 900 AP handle 
before speeds are affected? How many can be accessing simultaneously 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Josh Luthman]

I have this installed and like it...

Two RBs (currently 532 but today you'll want 433ah)
Two xr5 or compex wlm54ag
Dual polarity 5ghz dish
Butch's blog and/or help in usinf OSPF to concatinate the two links.

I would guess 400 for electronics, 400 for two dishes and 200 for materials.

On 1/8/09, Blair Davis  wrote:
> A pair of Mikrotiks, radio cards and all, under $1K and you should be able
> to do 20Mbit.
>
> Pat O'Connor wrote:
>>
>> Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA
>>
>> 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim
>> gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they
>> are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.
>>
>> Link distance: 8.3 miles
>>
>> Antennas: Andrews P3F-52-NXA
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

[Travis Johnson]

They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on 
there at whatever speed they are "OK" with... ;)

We have some with 60+ subs.

Travis
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Al Stewart wrote:
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> before speeds are affected? How many can be accessing simultaneously 
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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

[John Scrivner]

We find that about 45 CPE per AP is max without some speed / latency issues
creeping up. We sell mostly 768k connections.
Scriv


On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on
> there at whatever speed they are "OK" with... ;)
>
> We have some with 60+ subs.
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> Travis
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>
> Al Stewart wrote:
> > I know some of you are using Trango 900s. So could I trouble you for
> > some observations based on your depth of experience with this
> > equipment. Sort of a "simple" question.
> >
> > In your experience, how many 900 SUs can a single 900 AP handle
> > before speeds are affected? How many can be accessing simultaneously
> > with serious damage to the bandwidth?
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[John Thomas]

Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It 
doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem.

John


Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
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> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Tom DeReggi]

Define your intended use. Voice T1s? or data T1s?

I highly recommend the Trango Tlink-45s, if backhaul is intended for data 
circuits..

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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

[Gerard Dupont III]

I inherited a Trango 900 network that has some AP's with over 100 subs 
on them. You just need to be careful how much bandwidth you sell your 
customers since there is only 3mbit to go around. I am very impressed 
with how well they run with that many subs though.

Gerard


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Re: [WISPA] Trango 900

[Tom DeReggi]

We have about 50 residential users per AP.
We sell 1mb-2mb (download) services, with 384k and 512k uploads.

You can do more, if you are in an area that does not need fast circuits.(for 
example selling 256k to the home).

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 900


> We find that about 45 CPE per AP is max without some speed / latency 
> issues
> creeping up. We sell mostly 768k connections.
> Scriv
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> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
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>> They do 3Mbps total bandwidth... so however many subs you can get on
>> there at whatever speed they are "OK" with... ;)
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>> We have some with 60+ subs.
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>> Microserv
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>> > some observations based on your depth of experience with this
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Re: [WISPA] metal building install

[Scottie Arnett]

It being stainless steel wall, makes me think of all kinds of nice freq. 
reflections? I know I have trouble with all freq. shooting across or tops of 
steel roofing.

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-- Original Message --
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Date:  Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:04:57 -0700

>I'm just trying to picture a brushed stainless steel wall... I don't know if
>I have seen a building like that before (at least one that wasn't super
>modern).
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>The cheapest solution is going to be a silver colored spray paint... after
>that I can't think of anything good.
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>I don't have a picture handy.  There isn't much to see though.  It is 
>just a plain stainless steel wall at the areas the antennas are going. 
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>> Can you provide a picture of the building?
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>> that has brushed stainless sheeting on the sides.  The antennas must be 
>> installed on the outside walls and cannot be higher than the sides.  
>> They want the antennas to be hidden or as non-obtrusive as possible.  
>> Anyone got any ideas on how to cover, hide, or camouflage  the 
>> antennas?  There will be 3 sectors on each side. 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Easy.  Airaya.  Easy to set up, rock solid reliable.

You can get them from ec/hutton.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Pat O'Connor" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations


>
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> Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA
>
> 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim
> gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they
> are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.
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> Link distance: 8.3 miles
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[John McDowell]

Redline AN80i

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:

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> Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA
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> 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[J. Vogel]

My webmail software is Squirrelmail, which does put the authenticated
user in the header, but that didn't come back in the bounces (that I saw
anyway) but I was able to find the compromised account by searching the
"Sent" folders for some of the bounced recipient addresses. Picking an
address that wasn't likely to be one that my customers would have sent
to - such as in the .pl domain - quickly led me to a folder with lots of
spam messages in it. Searching for a line in the body of the spam email
would have been successful as well.  :)

John

David E. Smith wrote:
> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
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>> Are they using your webmail to send out the spam. Is there any way you can
>> tell what user's email address is compromised because all the "mail delivery
>> errors" I'm getting don't show one.
>> 
>
> Yeah, my latest few problem children have been using our Web site, and 
> cut-and-pasting in their spam, sending it out to just five or ten 
> recipients at a time so as to avoid our "you're not just a spammer but a 
> dumb spammer" trigger if you try to send to 1000 people at once.
>
> How to track it down depends on the mail software you use, obviously. 
> Mine (an older version of Ipswitch Imail) doesn't put any identifying 
> information in the email as such (no originating IP or 
> authenticated-user info). There are timestamps, though, which I can 
> correlate against the Web server logs.
>
> Right now, I'm torn between "trying to stop it at the Web server" using 
> some sort of IP geolocation filter, or "stop it before it leaves the 
> network" using a modified SpamAssassin installation. Both are giving me 
> all kinds of fits that are way off-topic for this list.
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Kurt Fankhauser]

According to the website one box is capable of running as either/or. (I
thought)

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:29 PM
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Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It 
doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem.

John


Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
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> good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting
> blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is using
> my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you have
> outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Jenco Wireless]

Kurt, I regularly check the Barracuda message log, searching for allowed and
white listed messages, with a subject that contains "return".  If there are
more than a few, I tell the customer they need to change their PW ASAP and I
do it for them if it continues another day.  Unfortunately, it only takes
one outbreak to get blacklisted.  Barracuda also has a setting that may help
you - go to advanced, then click on "Sender Spoof Protection".  I also
regularly block the top rate controlled and senders at my core router, as to
not allow them to even make it to the Barracuda.  If you come up with
anything else, please let us know..  The account hacking started being a
problem for me too a few months back, but so far these controls seem to be
helping a lot.

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On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:28 PM, John Thomas  wrote:

> Are you guys using the outbound feature on your inbound Barracudas? It
> doesn't do as full a job as a outbound box, but it may help your problem.
>
> John
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> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
> > Does anyone use the Barracuda's for outbound spam filtering and is it as
> > good as the inbound version? I need to keep my mail server from getting
> > blacklisted and am looking for a way to do it. Apparently someone is
> using
> > my server to relay spam, (I am using pop before smtp so they must be
> > authenticating first.) Also is it possible to use the outbound if you
> have
> > outsourced email services, aka "Jumpline" ???
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[Josh Luthman]

I love the an50s. Redline support is unbelieveable.  The 80s have more
capability and are half the price, though I haven't gotten my hands on
them.

On 1/8/09, John McDowell  wrote:
> Redline AN80i
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA
>>
>> 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim
>> gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they
>> are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.
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>> Link distance: 8.3 miles
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Backhaul Radio Recommendations

[John McDowell]

We're pretty exclusive to the AN80 on backhauls...just deployed a new one
this week. And yes, Redline support is awesome

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Josh Luthman
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> I love the an50s. Redline support is unbelieveable.  The 80s have more
> capability and are half the price, though I haven't gotten my hands on
> them.
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> On 1/8/09, John McDowell  wrote:
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> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Pat O'Connor  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrews Antenna P3F-52-NXA
> >>
> >> 5.8GHz backhaul radio died today because of a power surge.  Old Proxim
> >> gear, 2 x T1.  I wanted some feedback from vendors/users of what they
> >> are using.  I need to keep it under $5K if possible.
> >>
> >> Link distance: 8.3 miles
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Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

[Mike Hammett]

What about forcing those accounts to change paswords?


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From: "David E. Smith" 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
>> It sounds like what you really have to do is tighten up your webmail.
>> It's better to fix that than to put a band-aid on it. Though a good
>> smtp spam filter is never a bad idea.
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> The problem is that the Web mail isn't broken, as such. The "attackers"
> are using legitimate credentials to log in and send mail.
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> Unfortunately, the mail software in question doesn't have rate-limits on
> a per-sender basis. I know, I should join the rest of you in the early
> 21st century.
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> Anyone know of a reliable IIS geolocation filter? That'd solve the
> problem in an even more crazy roundabout way.
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