Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread George Rogato
Don't you have battery back ups? Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Looks pretty normal around here. But some of our towers are offline again > due to all of the power outages. > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric Tykwinski" > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Sent: Tuesday, January 2

[WISPA] more freezing frost

2009-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Oh goody. Look what I get to go home to from Hutton/EC expo. http://www.krem.com/topstories/stories/krem2-012009-wilbur.130e8cb9.html I hope I have time to run up there on Thursday and take come more pics. I've got some pretty amazing ones already. And the frost was 1/3rd as thick on Saturday

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Looks pretty normal around here. But some of our towers are offline again due to all of the power outages. marlon - Original Message - From: "Eric Tykwinski" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC! > Everyone

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Josh Luthman
The board works at 18v and there's only one wireless card. At 50ft or even 500ft you're not losing 1v. I'm betting you have a 24v poe? On 1/20/09, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote: > Remember the 411AH and the 433AH are EXACTLY the same with two > exceptions, less Ethernet and wireless ports an

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Remember the 411AH and the 433AH are EXACTLY the same with two exceptions, less Ethernet and wireless ports and micro-sd slot. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Adam Goodman
Could it be that the board is getting to low a voltage? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2009, at 7:00 PM, "Forbes Mercy" wrote: > We have a tower with a single radio operating on it. We were using a > Microtik 133 board with a single Prizim chipset in it. One day it > stopped responding to r

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Josh Luthman
We knew what you meant because the 433 has three ports and 411 has one. I do suggest putting a 433ah up there if you plan to have some good usage. Saving 50 dollars isn't worth playing with the board upgrade game for the capacity it provides. If the 433ah does work then your line is probably goo

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Forbes Mercy
Oops let me correct myself I've been saying 433a, it's actually a 411a. The board that is working is the 433ah. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:21 PM To: WISPA Gener

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Forbes Mercy
Hi Forbes A few questions/comments: : How long is the ethernet run? About 50 feet We had a MTK client radio on an RB113 go irratic at times. We brought the 133 back into the office and had no problem accessing it with short length Cat 5 and the wireless worked great, same for the new 433A b

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
* Forbes Mercy wrote, On 1/20/2009 7:00 PM: > > > Took a back-up 433AH board up and used the same radio card, worked like > a charm for both our access and customer throughput. We didn't want to > waste a three port/LAN board so ordered a 433a single port board. Once > it arrived we logged into

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread David Blood
The port on the mikrotik could be damages as well. It may work fine when the cable length is 5 feet but not when the cable is longer. David Blood > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, Janu

Re: [WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Josh Luthman
MikroTik :) So the only change you made between the hut and up on the tower is changing what the other end of the poe was and the line up the tower. This means your switch, poe, or the lines have gone bad. I'd replace the poe and patch cable first (and the switch if that is what it is in). If th

[WISPA] Microtik Remote Weirdness

2009-01-20 Thread Forbes Mercy
We have a tower with a single radio operating on it. We were using a Microtik 133 board with a single Prizim chipset in it. One day it stopped responding to requests through the network using Winbox. No customers were down so we assumed it was running bandwidth (too much snow to travel up there)

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question - OFFLIST

2009-01-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
I really hate when this happens. :-) Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: > Hi Matt, > > Missed you at AF this year -- saw your tree presentation though > > In lieu of violating list protocol, I would recommend that you ask Adam -- he > should know all about it > > -Charles > > -Original Message---

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question - OFFLIST

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Hi Matt, Missed you at AF this year -- saw your tree presentation though In lieu of violating list protocol, I would recommend that you ask Adam -- he should know all about it -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-20 Thread Matt Jenkins
Please do enlighten us of this latest special. - Matt Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: >> I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to >> Trango. The email said: "I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango >> just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you ma

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread Rick Harnish
Tom, Please write up a press release about this and I will place it on the webpage. Good Job! Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well some of the sites generating the video, aren't having any problems with congestion. Its because they chose small local companies to design solutions that bypassed the congestion of traditional carriers. For example, RapidDSL&Wireless with the help of state of the art wireless radio sol

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
John, Your insight hit the nail on the head. Unfortuntately, the current dominent manufacturers in 80G don't get it yet. The year after at IWPC, there was one manufacturer, Huber+Suhner, that appeared to get it. They discovered a super low cost method to make 60-80Ghz antennas, taht could be ma

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
John Valenti wrote: > I think Hulu (at least) was having problems. We had a viewing party > in our conference room. I had ABC over-the-air on the projector, but > kept a computer streaming Hulu on backup. It seemed to be > consistently about a minute behind the live broadcast. On election

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread John Valenti
I think Hulu (at least) was having problems. We had a viewing party in our conference room. I had ABC over-the-air on the projector, but kept a computer streaming Hulu on backup. It seemed to be consistently about a minute behind the live broadcast. A few seconds delay seems reasonable to

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread John Scrivner
I spoke before the millmeter wave IWPC group about 3 years ago. My message to them was to stop selling at high margins per radio pair and sell millions of units at lower margins. They thought I was nuts. I met a guy from Intel who was making millimeter wave radio devices out of CMOS instead of SiGe

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
cross-posting from outages list: http://www.akamai.com/html/technology/nui/news/index.html Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com David E. Smith wrote: > Not really, but is everyone else seeing lots

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Everyone on NANOG has been saying the same. We're actually seeing close to triple on downloading today, starting about 9AM EST. Thankfully no issues on capacity at all on our end... That's where I stole the idea for this email from :) NANOG tends to be bigger operators, and I thought this might

Re: [WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread Eric Tykwinski
Everyone on NANOG has been saying the same. We're actually seeing close to triple on downloading today, starting about 9AM EST. Thankfully no issues on capacity at all on our end... I'm actually surprised the sites serving the videos aren't having any issues yet. -Original Message- Fro

[WISPA] We're being DDOS'd by DC!

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Not really, but is everyone else seeing lots of extra traffic from people streaming inauguration-related events in DC? My network is pulling basically double the traffic of a "normal" Tuesday. (There's a lesson about capacity planning in here somewhere...) David Smith MVN.net ---

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread Josh Luthman
Simply put - everything is in one pot. There are also many capabilities. One thing I see as a major benefit is the simplicity of CALEA captures. No extra work for what's already in place. On 1/20/09, e...@wisp-router.com wrote: > I like to do both. Preference is pppoe but if they don't have a

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread eje
I like to do both. Preference is pppoe but if they don't have a router we do dhcp. But with todays radios we often set the radio up to do pppoe. One of the nice thing with pppoe is its easy to segregate the clients and firewall them and quickly track down an virus infected user and prevent clien

[WISPA] Breezecom PI-CAT-5 Specs?

2009-01-20 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone has the specs for the old Breezecom PI-CAT-5 POE accesory? what are the current voltages? Im looking into the unit with adjustable output power ... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread Jeremy Davis
> I just don't see which of those you can't do with simple DHCP and > RADIUS, and that's a lot easier for the customer. The customer doesn't > have to set up a PPPOE client on their PC or router or Xbox 360 or > whatever dumb network appliance they just bought for seventeen bucks on > eBay; they pl

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Jeremy Davis wrote: >> I really don't get the love affair with PPPOE; I assume there's >> something I'm missing, and I've always been curious as to what. > > There is a lot of cool things you can do with radius / pppoe systems, change > an IP if they haven't paid which can redirect customers to n

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread Jeremy Davis
> I really don't get the love affair with PPPOE; I assume there's > something I'm missing, and I've always been curious as to what. There is a lot of cool things you can do with radius / pppoe systems, change an IP if they haven't paid which can redirect customers to non-payment portals, use rad

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
PPPoE offer the following advantage to an operator. 1. Allows for central management of a subcriber (all / many aspects of the subcriber attributes) 2. Separates the physical network from the subscriber connection. (Which allows for network changes that could be totally transparent to the subscrib

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Charles, Come on Charles you should know the answer to your question: Location, Location, Location. Some of our clients have forgotten about more fiber laid than a mid-size Telco, but fiber is not always feasible. Railroads, runways, rivers and a number of other factors can eliminate fi

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, I agree to a point. But we could be competing with FIOS to the Home, with lower price 60 and 80Ghz products. Look at Xbox, using technology that once only the military or Hollywood could afford, but now is bring satisfaction to millions of kids (and adults) nationwide. Technology is all

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-20 Thread David E. Smith
Josh Luthman wrote: > Many client radios can do pppoe as well as Windows has it's own pppoe > client I am told that works quite well. (not trolling) PPPOE requires extra configuration for every client, requires extra configuration at every tower, and yields relatively little practical benefit -

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Hi Brad, >Half mile? Ours is almost 2.5miles in an RF unfriendly rain zone. The link >has been up for more than a year and the client has been thrilled. So >thrilled in fact that we've got another planned for them with a roadmap of >more to follow. Being the devil's advocate I recently priced

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Hi Tom, >But that is not my point. I personally do not think that peak capacity is >the big factor in a buying decission for WISPs.. >Once you are in the 400mb + range, over subscription is your friend. I would argue that after taking Matt L out of the equation, 100 Mb FD is more than enough for

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Hi Tom, XO has owned frequencies (LMDS) -- totally different ball-game -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Hi Bob, >I personally would use an all ODU version because it makes servicing a >breeze and also swapping out a bad radio quick and simple. No guessing >about is it the indoor unit, is it the outdoor unit, is it the interface >cable??? Get an all ODU like the Dragonwave Horizon and you run CAT5 >

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Hi Bob, >I don't think Trango will be a good fit considering the 20-25 mile link >distances, 18 Ghz. and the reduced tx power compared to others in the >lower bands. You forget that Travis lives in "RF Nirvana" In RF Nirvana, 38 GHz goes 15 miles and 18 GHz 30 miles with 99.999% uptime -Charles

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
>Ceragon has a very good name, but is much more expensive than Dragonwave >(and honestly I have a hard time finding the value proposition to Ceragon >over Dragonwave... even though I sell Ceragon gear) Hehe...I might argue the same of Trango vs Dragonwave =) >Ceragon and Dragonwave will probably

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