Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Digital Bridge has asked for money for Underserved for the county that I service, the whole county. Questions: 1. Since I am the only WISP in the Rural areas of my county and my standard is 1024/256 with 2.4 and there is 50% of the clients that I cant get due to trees. I assume that that will

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > Digital Bridge has asked for money for Underserved for the county > that I service, the whole county. > Questions: > 1. Since I am the only WISP in the Rural areas of my county and my > standard is 1024/256 with 2.4 and there is 50% of the cl

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

He isn't asking to block the competition, only the availability of taxpayer $ being used to drive him out of business. L. Aaron Kaplan wrote: > On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Steve Barnes wrote: > > >> Digital Bridge has asked for money for Underserved for the county >> that I service, the who

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

> > Just a quit though - correct me if I am wrong, but... > > Isnt blocking competition very un-American somehow? > Is "blocking" even possible? Seriously? You would categorize government-subsidized broadband expansion as capitalistic competition? --

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

On Sep 15, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Brian Whigham wrote: >> >> Just a quit though - correct me if I am wrong, but... >> >> Isnt blocking competition very un-American somehow? >> Is "blocking" even possible? > > > Seriously? You would categorize government-subsidized broadband > expansion > as capital

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

> > > Seriously? You would categorize government-subsidized broadband > expansion > as capitalistic competition? I should have said - receiving some funds and thus increasing the speed of biz expansion. I see nothing un-capitalistic per se about receiving funds in order to revive the econo

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

That's the only way you can get it. It must be built by a MT distributor, along with the FCC stickers put on it etc and sold as a completed FCC Certified System. Can't build it yourself. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

While it holds true that you may not be able to get the stickers, this statement is not true. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Yeah, it amazes me how much greed was in the applcation. Some large applicants, "the wealthiest" identified the top number and molded an applcation to go for that dollar amount. For example, Satelite providers approaching 1/2 billion dollars. Or a State asking for 1/50th or more of funds, wanti

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Realistically, you can't block the application if you can reach less than 50% of the households in an area. Plus they are probably applying for funds to cover an area larger than (or at least not completely coincident with) yours, which would likely make a successful challenge improbable at

Re: [WISPA] Fatality today

Thanks for the link We just had a nice safety meeting prior to sending everyone out! Marco On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:36 AM, RickG wrote: > Actual link is > http://www.wirelessestimator.com/t_content.cfm?pagename=Breaking%20News > Be safe and careful out there guys! -RickG > > On Mon, Sep 1

[WISPA] test ping

test -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -

[WISPA] Hotspot controller

I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate in with Acti

Re: [WISPA] test ping

pong Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Marco Coelho wrote: > test > >

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit Not sure about your AD requirement though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Can't the Mikrotik do LDAP auth? Haven't done it myself but seems like I remember seeing that it can. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subj

[WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering What many think is the holy grail of the Broadband Wireless Internet Business is reaching the 100,000 subscriber point then selling out. There are a few companies taking the buy-out approach to reaching this goal. They are offering between $100 to $

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server? --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office:

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

AD is active directory. Active directory is Microsoft's bastardization of LDAP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Cona

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time when they're within hot

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a monthly cost flat rate for their service? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then just have the MT look at your radius server. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, mu

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy - If it hasn't changed they have 2 options 1) Free. WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page 2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the database, not how many are online at a time) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 T

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving away free wifi somewhere. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

I wonder how they make any money giving it away for free. Maybe I need to give them a call. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Turn on the MT hotspot and have it use radius authentication. The users that work for the hotspot are in the ip hotspot users db and radius. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

It's like the free version of Dropbox. Works 100% just has a limitation here or there to guilt you into paying them. Costs them little for every subscriber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, t

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's users or are you using Microsoft's IAS as a RADIUS server? You could have Freeside setup to do your new hotspot users, accounts setup automatically via the Mikrotik interface. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

It's really not that hard to code a web page that will allow someone to sign up, get their CC info and process it, and then stick their username / password into either your RADIUS server database or even create an AD user. Mikrotik can host the page or I think you can have the 'tik forward out to a

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

MS IAS. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:57 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's use

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

No % at all. It is fixed and is not much. They tell about it at http://www.wirelessorbit.com/ Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2. is not actually correct. They have a couple of levels of pay service, depending on number of actual hotspot gateways (routers) you have. The monthly cost is very low. Their service is great- we have used them since they began and I have visited their office twice. They process payments for you

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

We use user manager without issues with Auth.net. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Webs

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Yes, It definateately IS appropriate to attempt to BLOCK bad applications. The NTIA/RUS has no way to know if an applcation is innapproriate or in conflict of interest if we dont tell them. Quite honestly, the applicant may not know it is in conflict of interest without telling them. I specifica

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Its also feasible to protest a plan simply because its a poor plan. The NTIA/RUS needs to approve grants for companies that use tax payer money optimally wisely and benefit the public, and adhere to the NOFA rules. If you think you can do a better plan, but didn;t have time to submit it until R

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

I found this page on the USDA web site with a database of Broadband projects funded by the USDA. It looks like this will also be the site that ISPs can use to find proposed BIP/BTOP projects in their area and file a challenge. You can sign up to receive e-mail when a new Public Notice of Filing

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

The problem is, it's a fair amount of effort to challenge since *you* have to challenge it at the census block level, just as they had to justify it at the census block level. And if the area is as the poster describes, it's impossible to challenge. He might have a very good reason why he ca

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

There is no provision in the rules to protest a plan because you don't think it's a good plan. In fact, there's an OMB circular (from July I believe) that explicitly disallows ANY communication until the evaluation process is over about individual applications with the grant reviewers OR the

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

On Sep 15, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Chuck Bartosch wrote: > 50% of the residents (that's what he said, I'll remind you) in his Sorry, that sounded kind of snotty-didn't mean it that way. I meant just that, I'm going by what he explicitly said and not making further assumptions or guesses. The "I'll

[WISPA] Willigear

Any comments good bad or indifferent? Looks like I can put together a dual band Mesh radio for about 250.00 plus antennas. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Chuck, "and you will NOT be able to have a section cut out of an otherwise qualifying target census set just because you do cover it." I agree that its not possible to protest it simply based on the protestor covering part of it. Agreed, "gerrymandering" was incouraged, and I actually agree it

Re: [WISPA] Willigear

I was in contact with a WISP in Destin, Florida that really liked them in a condo/hotel environment. He praised them. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:3

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

" They went out of their way to encourage "gerrymandering" in the applications, which included the ability to include covered territory as long as the total number of already covered households was under 50% (which it is in this case as it's been explained to us)." Or that there's a less than 40%

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

On Sep 15, 2009, at 1:48 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Chuck, > > "and you will NOT be able to have a section cut > out of an otherwise qualifying target census set just because you do > cover it." > > I agree that its not possible to protest it simply based on the > protestor > covering part of it.

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Chuck, I'm reading from bottom up, and realize in this Email you made some good points here that may adequately counter my thought from my last post. This is all good information, to understand what is and isn't approrpiate ways to protest, and when appropriate. I agree that NTIA/RUS is bound

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

I'm including the 40% in the gerrymandering statement. In another response I pointed out that you have to "win" on every argument the applicant makes, not just on the arguments you want to make. Chuck On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:16 PM, Vickie Edwards wrote: > " They went out of their way to encour

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

I've never been a fan of selling out, no matter the terms ever for any amount of money. That's probably because I'm young and hope to own an evolution of my company 50 years from now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

That link doesn't work for me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Matt Larsen - Lists" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:41 PM To: "WISPA General List" ; "motorola Canopy User Group" Subject: [W

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

When I search these websites for my county (Snohomish County, WA), I come up with SEVERAL listings for CTURN Corporation out of Oregon . They appear to have over 130 applications showin

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Chuck, > > I'm reading from bottom up, and realize in this Email you made some > good > points here that may adequately counter my thought from my last post. > > This is all good information, to understand what is and isn't > approrpiate > way

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

>They are offering between $100 to $1200 per subscriber to the owners that have built these businesses up through their hard work. They seem to be concentrating on the companies with between 500 and 2000 subscribers. Seems about even if you only look at today's dollar value - what about the next 6

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

I'm also not in favor of any deal, that forces a participant into a destiny they don't untimately ahve control of, or where they lose control of how they evaluate their local value when they reach the exit stage. For example, one subsidiary may easilly justify a return with a 1x sale, but anothe

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

Please see within your mail: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > I'm also not in favor of any deal, that forces a participant into a destiny > they don't untimately ahve control of, or where they lose control of how > they evaluate their local value when they reach the exit stag

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

I also don't understand why people aggregate networks that aren't contiguous. You lose a lot of the benefits vs. one you build from contiguous networks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Marco C

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

If you bundle enough networks together you get a very good coverage map. The more you have, the closer they get to each other thereby allowing you to add fiber here, licensed backhaul to there. mc On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I also don't understand why people aggreg

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

Although steps in the right direction, a couple points >The way each ISP is being evaluated is based on a formula that take >subscriber numbers, income, and gross costs into account. This >flattens out the playing field between all players whether they bring >in 500 customers or 10K. I guess

Re: [WISPA] Aggregate Growth strategy for a public offering

Yes, but the largest cost benefit is reducing duplicate processes and resources. Integrating one tech support, one billing, one transit, one colo, etc, etc. These require committed combining of companies, where there is no return after words. The companies that combine like that will see much be

[WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids.

What grid type/vendors are most using here. Our installers are having some issues with our Grid deployments. We've tried a few types of Pac-Wireless's, some of them have had wildly fluctuating signal levels they bounce 20db. Our Andrew grids seem to work fine, but we are looking for a less cost

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

Excuse my ignorance but since the card is the only thing that transmits why does the board and especially why does the enclosure need to be certified? If one puts a two way radio in a car the radio needs to be certified, not the whole car. Greg On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:30 PM, ralph wrote: > Pr

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

That's been the ongoing argument. I use the analogy of a PCMCIA or USB card. that's the device that is FCC certified - the computer (routerboard) just runs it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent:

[WISPA] Hospitality WiFi

We have a very very good AAA/Advertising system in place and I am looking for new ways to leverage it. A few questions for those who are doing Hospitality WiFi: - Did you sell the system to the hotel or provide all of the equipment/installation on your dime? - What is your revenue split? - Does

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

The way I understand it, the routerboard don't matter, the antenna, and radio matters, as its certified as a system, with xx gain of this type of antenna. You also have to have the FCC information, etc, on the outside that MT offers to only its distributors. -Original Message- From: wir

Re: [WISPA] Hospitality WiFi

Most of the ISPs that we support who provide Hospitality WiFi put the equipment in and charge the hotel on a per room basis. I believe that most of the hotels simply provide the service free of charge. -Layne Layne Sisk ServerPlus -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ma

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

I think everyone here has agreed to disagree on that subject. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:53 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul cho

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

The way I understand it (and I was told this comes from an FCC field officer) is that the FCC ID of the radio device (Ubie/MT/other card) needs to be visible on the case (for the purposes of easy identification so they don't need to rip it off the pole and open it up). The antenna used needs to

[WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed degrade tp Zero then drop- repeat.

I have a problem with Mikrotik I have not been able to solve. Wondering if anyone has any insight. A summary config is I have a 433AH setup as AP with 1 XR900 and 1 R5H (5.8Ghz). The Cat5 Ethernet port goes to a SMC VLAN switch, where the SMC tags and untags VLAN ID, and continues to the B

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids.

I have probably 100 or so PacWireless PA24-24 and I don't see that issue on any of them. They have been solid for me. Michael Baird wrote: > What grid type/vendors are most using here. Our installers are having > some issues with our Grid deployments. We've tried a few types of > Pac-Wireless'

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids.

I am looking at using these grids/bullets as well,How much improvement do you see over,say a nanostation2? Thanks,Jason --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Scott Reed wrote: From: Scott Reed Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids. To: "WISPA General List" Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 8:34 PM I hav

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

Does the process explicitly say that an awarded company has to open their network to competition? Or is this sort of a vague rule? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Chuck Bartosch Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:06:11 -0400 >T

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 ghz 24db grids.

I've been installing pac grids with the 5ghz version of the new Bullet, the 5hp, and it's been darn stable. Could it be something in the Airmax or the 2ghz??? Dunno. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent

[WISPA] Rohn 25G Tower Jack

Anyone have a Rohn 25G tower jack they no longer need? Gotta take one down, need a jack but would rather buy a used one from a member before shelling out some jack to Champion radio. Thanks! Robert West Just Micro Digital Services inc. Sent from my PC cause I'm too poor for a Blackberry and n

Re: [WISPA] Searchable Map of Stimulus projects

It's an requirement. >From the application: B. Eligibility Factors ** Applicant understands and agrees to comply with the nondiscrimination and interconnection obligations outlined in the NOFA. ** If applying for a last mile Broadband Infrastructure project, applicant understands and agrees to

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Problem - 900Mhz-WDS-incremental speed degrade tpZero then drop- repeat.

Maybe just bad hardware at Subscriber B? Last week we had an XR-9 ptp link in Houston that behaved somewhat similarly, great speed in one direction, but next to nothing in the other. Shotgunning the radio & motherboard (an Alix) fixed it. Haven't gotten it back yet so don't know which went bad.