If you use QOS then they are not using the internet the way they choose.
They want it wide open. Besides, this is not about choice. In my scenario,
they still have a choice. If people understood how a network works then they
would glad to do as I say. For instance, what if there were no traffic
I'm not sure my argument is the same as theirs but actually that's my point.
Currently, I cant allow certain applications such as PTP due to lack of
network and billing inefficiencies. In my scenario, you would be able to run
any application but there will be a cost associated with it. As far as
A bit off topic...
For instance, what if there were no traffic lights or laws such as speed
limits and those that keep slower traffic in the right lane? The roads would
be a mess!
Try living in Buenas Airesmost intersections have no stop signs or
lights and the ones that do rarely get paid
At 10:37 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote:
Wow that would be cool. Now just to find a device which can split
all that out easily and maintain accounting.
I have this all automatically controlled with a Packeteer. Eight
levels of priority with on the fly per packet control, partitioning
of bandwidth,
At 08:53 PM 3/29/2011, you wrote:
try to keep everything fair but my customers feel like they should
be able to use their Internet in any way they choose.
That's what EVERYONE wants to believe, but the obvious fact is that
there is no such thing as unlimited, and there never has
been. I've
On 03/30/2011 11:31 AM, Rick Kunze wrote:
The shared model works very well for 90% of the people. I sell both,
and everything in between. But rarely does anyone find dedicated
bandwidth to be a better solution for them. About the only time I
sell it is when the order comes from higher up.
I'm referring to bandwidth, as opposed to method of delivery.
Rk
At 08:36 AM 3/30/2011, you wrote:
On 03/30/2011 11:31 AM, Rick Kunze wrote:
The shared model works very well for 90% of the people. I sell both,
and everything in between. But rarely does anyone find dedicated
bandwidth
Rick, Thats great! The real trick is can you prioritize AND bill
accordingly?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote:
At 10:37 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote:
Wow that would be cool. Now just to find a device which can split
all that out easily and maintain
At 3/29/2011 11:15 PM, RickG wrote:
Fred, I respectfully disagree.
I'm glad to see that we have a good discussion going here, and it's
not a flamefest or anything.
First off, applications being run on my network ARE my business.
Many apps can have detrimental effect on it and therefore I
Another interesting article on it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110329/media_nm/us_netflix_canada
The comments section is interesting as well.
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We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost $2,600/month
or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 3/29/2011 11:55 AM, Shaun Hoggan
What is your current cost for those 7400 email boxes?
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost
We have 4 cluster servers doing all the work and I'll say that are a (on
a high side) $1,000 a piece for hardware. Probably about combined total
of: 30 hours worth of config time for Spam and Virus protection.
Sit back and relax.
I like the idea of have google because of it's feature rich
Hey if you can do it for $4000 once there is no reason to spend $3000 a
month.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
We have 4 cluster servers doing all the work
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:47, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost $2,600/month
or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email.
That's large enough, that it's almost certainly more cost-effective to do it
in-house.
If I were
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:00:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
We have over 7400 email boxes. At $0.35 each that is almost
$2,600/month or $31,200/year. That is a large expense for email.
What is your current cost
This is true and accounted for. I would love nothing more than say
Google, here you go! and not have to manage the servers.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 3/30/2011 2:14 PM, David E. Smith
We just put in server, nice little super micro system, 5 disk array,
SATA with about 6000 e-mails. I think it was around 4 k for everything,
and it can do quite a bit more, not loaded up much at all.
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Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik
What are you using for mail software on this box? Hardware specs? We
just put in a 6 core 16gb server, but the weak point now if slow disk.
Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108
On 3/30/2011 2:18 PM,
It's been a lengthy learning curve, I've been forming this mechanism
since around 2001 but it all works very well now. I use 5 levels of
priority for customers, Level 0 through Level 4. Level 5 is for
special use when needed and 6 is infrastructure equipment. Level 7
(top level) is reserved
I think that there is a point where you look at taking this in-house. We
made a policy that email accounts are purged after 90 days of not being
logged into. We do have exceptions for those that request it, but for the
most part people were getting email accounts, just to get them. Then they
ANYONE know of ANY in stock?
ryan
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We just received our first shipment of the SXT's. While they are certainly
very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof the little
door on the bottom.
Have I missed a previous discussion about these units and the weatherproofing
of them?
Kevin
We have had them up for quite some time, no issues yet. Great
performance. J
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Do they have a FCC Cert?
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote:
We have had them up for quite some time, no issues yet. Great performance.
J
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Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Link
yep
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Excellent, that is great to hear. I take it that you aren't doing anything
other than closing the door and keeping the cable routed down. No additional
weather proofing of the door? We are in a definite snow and rain zone so just
a bit concerned. We are going to hang a couple later this
Haven't seen them but on the bottom doesn't sound like a concern.
On Mar 30, 2011 4:56 PM, Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com wrote:
We just received our first shipment of the SXT's. While they are certainly
very interesting, I am concerned about the ability to weatherproof the
little door on the bottom.
The two that I would look at would be qmailtoaster.com or zimbra.com
Anyone out there using Qmail Toaster? How does it work?
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Anyone tried these with a dish yet?
On 3/30/2011 3:18 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
Excellent, that is great to hear. I take it that you aren't doing anything
other than closing the door and keeping the cable routed down. No additional
weather proofing of the door? We are in a definite snow and
This was written by a tech vendor, which VietNetworks is careful to point
out. Still, interesting comments about 802.11n and MIMO.
With the barrage of data traffic hitting corporate and mobile networks from
Wi-Fi-enabled smartphones, iPads and other bandwidth-hungry devices,
enterprises and
On 3/29/2011 10:56 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this
$.35 per account price you're getting? I haven't been able to
track anyone down about it.
Thanks.
Mark
On
We really would like to find someone who could do the Google move
and give us that .35 pricing as well
On 3/29/2011 10:56 AM, Mark Nash wrote:
Would someone please tell me who to get in touch with for this
$.35 per account price you're
http://www.ikano.com/vendor/googleapps_vendor.asp
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote:
We really would like to find someone who could do the Google move and give
I used to use qmail toaster. It worked great as long as you ran good spam
software with it. I ran spamassassin and spamdyke. I hired Eric Shubes to
set it up for me initially. If you look at any of the forums for qmail
toaster, he is the guy who answers most of the questions. I can get you
contact
Flamefests accomplish nothing! I agree with what you say below and at this
point not sure what else I can add. Making it happen is what I want to see.
I may be wrong but I truly beleive proper UBB it's the only way to true QOS
on the internet, especially as applications continue to grow and become
It sounds like it has improved somewhat from when I was using the Allot box
back in '97. It would be nice if there was more automation in the process.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote:
It's been a lengthy learning curve, I've been forming this mechanism
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