You guys are hilarious.
In seriousness though, it shouldn't be a difficult if the argument is
turned into what the value of the bands is to the economy, vs other uses.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:26 AM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
Sure, why else would there be African bands...
Mike-
If Amazon has them, and it says 'fulfilled' by Amazon, that would put you
into free shipping alone by price. And if you have Amazon Prime [any
students or mom in your family makes it free to get it], then it is free 2
day delivery and only $3.99@ for one day delivery-including Saturdays
One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that free space
loss works to your advantage. That being that a 5 GHz indoor Omni home AP
router signal will fall off as an interference source as a much shorter
distance than a 2.4 GHz device will. The laws of physics work in your
The laws of physics are the same for free space loss below 6GHz.
What does help is obstruction attenuation.
On Nov 15, 2013, at 8:24, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote:
One good thing about the higher bands and the noise floor is that free space
loss works to your advantage.
I'm not talking about the ones in peoples homes, I'm talking about the ones
the cable carrier hangs on the lines outside runing through the city on
every corner clear LOS to every tower around.
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
It's not just Comcast, TW, Cox are also taking advantage of the simplicity
of the newer 7781-CM Access Point. They are offering free wifi to
existing clients for retention. Down the road cellular offloading
802.11u
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Matt Hoppes
Through the Coax Plant.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:
That's sweet. How does it get power?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 15, 2013 9:26 AM, Zach Mann
That's sweet. How does it get power?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 15, 2013 9:26 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote:
He's talking about these... (see attached)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
Anyideas on the cost? It would be a great addition to any aerial fiber built out
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Zach Mann
Sent: Friday,
How would you power it on fiber?
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Anyideas on the cost? It would be a great addition to any aerial fiber
built out
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
String some DC power along with the fiber? Maybe you put in coax for power
since that apparently can be done?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
To: WISPA General List
Very small solar cells? :)
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 11/15/13, 9:38 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
How would you power it on fiber?
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
In our case, we hace a pole attachment agreement with the local power
authority, they also offer a base AC service for pole devices
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
The cable companies usually just over-lash coax over their fiber to get to
the proposed AP's. For fiber only they make a fiber node accessory that
piggy backs to the AP. Still need power though.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Anyideas on the cost?
That's one way to avoid pole attachment fees! LOL.
What is Comcast trying to accomplish with these?
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 11/15/13, 9:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
He's talking about these... (see attached)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at
http://www.ruckuswireless.com/press/releases/20130610-ruckus-adds-zoneflex-7781cm-access-point-to-its-portfolio
$5k MSRP. Even at half that...ouch!
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Anyideas on the cost? It would be a great addition to any aerial fiber
Ouch.. I think its easier to cobble up some outdoor unifi and a media
converter...
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent:
traffic to be backhauled over the Hybrid Fiber Coaxial (HFC) cable plant
Must be fiber for data and coax for DC. I thought it was DOCSIS over coax.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Eric Muehleisen
It just means that they have their own fiber over-lashed with their coax
infrastructure.
The cable television HFC architecture consists of five major components:
1. the headend;
2. optical fiber;
3. feeder cable;
4. drop cable; and
5. terminal equipment.
6.
On Fri, Nov 15,
Headend Fiber Node Coax Plant
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com wrote:
It just means that they have their own fiber over-lashed with their coax
infrastructure.
The cable television HFC architecture consists of five major components:
1. the headend;
2.
Spectrum trashers At least if there's no traffic on them there
shouldn't be much noise..
On 11/15/2013 06:26 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
He's talking about these... (see attached)
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Scott Carullo
sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com
Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use
the spectrum... but then again so is Comcast.
This is exactly why there needs to be some sort of WISP only spectrum...
with laws carefully written so Comcast can't just say they are a WISP.
Matt Hoppes
Director of
And then you have this...
http://www.aglmediagroup.com/joint-use-power-poles-raise-safety-issues/
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:
Yes and no... I mean... yeah it's a pain to those of us trying to use
the spectrum... but then again
Coming from the WISP side, I asked them why they have these blasting at
full power, 24/7 when the zone director surely could manage power levels
when needed.
I didn't get a answer. I don't think they even gave it a thought about who
they might interfere with.
On Friday, November 15, 2013,
How would you 'legally' define a WISP?
What would make Comcast 'not a WISP', if they are delivering Internet over
Wireless?
If it's that they also deliver Internet over another medium, would we (and many
other providers) also be excluded because we also deliver Internet over cable
and fiber?
Of course they gave it a thought... Hmmm I wonder when we can get
some of these with even more power?It's a snatch and grab... If
they can chase everyone away, it's theirs
On 11/15/2013 08:18 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
Coming from the WISP side, I asked them why they have these blasting at
Right... I as well.. that's why I don't know what the answer is.
Everyone's in this game, but some just play (seemingly) unfair... for
example, it doesn't help anyone when you just go throwing up APs on
cable plants and blasting all over the town.
On the other hand Comcast may say it doesn't
Oh btw, even tho COMPANY A deploys these AP's and broadcasts their own
SSID, doesn't mean the other players in town can't pay COMPANY A for
their own SSID for their subscribers. :) It will be interesting to see
how this all develops.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Matt Hoppes
This is true... it also doesn't mean that COMPANY B can't deploy APs
with COMPANY A's SSID and then charge or something
wait... I didn't say that.
On 11/15/13, 11:40 AM, Zach Mann wrote:
Oh btw, even tho COMPANY A deploys these AP's and broadcasts their own
SSID, doesn't mean the other
Having had the privilege of living through PGE's rollout of 900MHz smart
meters we will be impacted, it's just hard to say how much.
The PGE smart meters were essentially unity gain at full power. When it
got into the 10's of thousands the AP saw -60dB across the board at 10
miles from the
We can only hope for A/C 80MHz channels to spread the signal way out
but also pollute more.
The ridiculous thing is 5GHz doesn't go through buildings... what is
Comcast attempting to do here?
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 11/15/13,
They are doing exactly what airCloud is doing for Muni WiFi. Put up AP's
that cover 90% outside. Put $100 repeaters in the window as needed.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote:
We can only hope for A/C 80MHz channels to spread the signal way out
Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
Thanx
NGL
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I think we just had this conversation 2 weeks ago :)
Yes some are... I'm not. Might start.
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 11/15/13, 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
Thanx
NGL
If you can
Some people are. Majority are not. No ones seems to have any evidence
suggesting it helps but there hasn't been anything to show it hurts.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
HFC is what almost all cable is in the US. The exceptions being old analog
systems that haven't been touched for 20 years.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA
I believe the H block of PCS will be up for auction soon. T-Mobile and Sprint
have already vowed to not bid.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
To: WISPA General List
It is great if you do, not real bad if you don't... unless the unit allows
extra moisture. The issue is being disciplined enough to do it every
time times the guys you have in the field. When you are on a roof, and
the tube is down in another bag in the truck... most likely you will not
climb
Our high school football team has made it to the championships for the first
time in 25 years. And PBS is so kind to stream the live coverage to the rest of
our “ghost town” or the few who stayed at home. The situation is so big that
they called off school today for the district so everyone
I wonder if corrosion could be a cause for CRC errors we see on some of
our APs.
Clay Stewart wrote:
It is great if you do, not real bad if you don't... unless the unit
allows extra moisture. The issue is being disciplined enough to do it
every time times the guys you have in the field.
We’ve been streaming live video of our local high school games for 5 years now.
It’s amazing how many people will watch the games when it’s either a playoff
game or if the team is doing very good. And of course how few will watch when
the team is doing poorly..
Chris
From:
Could be... I brought this up a few weeks ago for the exact reason.
When we take APs out of production after a few years the Ethernet
connectors are often corroded.
Matt Hoppes
Director of Information Technology
Indigo Wireless
+1 (570) 723-7312
On 11/15/13, 3:16 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I
Yeah, we use it on RJs and definitely on RF connectors. I believe a few years
ago I read a Motorola Manual that recommended using it on the RJs as well for
the Canopy product line
From: ~NGL~
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease
I bid a lot of the RF work on these networks two years ago with another
company (they got greedy on the bid, didn't win). They are building these
networks to offer the fixed broadband customers a mobility component to help
reduce churn with the cord cutting mentality crowd. If the low bandwidth
We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for
years.
Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks.
Who is using something they can recommend?
Requirements:
Work with Mikrotik hotspot.
Handles multiple locations, all different with different
I'm curious... is there any legal protection on open WiFi for SSID names?
Every ATT device there is tries to connect to ATT WiFi (or whatever SSID
they use) and you could setup your device with same SSID as someone else
and cause issues. I'm just curious from a legal standpoint since its
Attach all the customers within blocks using their security services that
don't have cable pulled. Or similar.
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:48 AM
To:
I have both (evidence). Yes it helps protect from corrosion but it
also can cause the sensitive ethernet to have issues depending on the
quality and consistency of grease used. The little wires just use spring
like pressure to connect, I've seen some thicker grease prevent good
They gave it a though... thats why they are full power ;)
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: Zach Mann zma...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:19 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Comcast
We have been and it has eliminated ethernet issues due to bad cable or bad
weatherproofing. I've seen where the cable jacket is messed up, water in
the ethernet connector area, but because the grease was used it prevented
the ethernet from failing.
We've also seen issues where the LMR cabling
Where do you get it in reasonable quantity and how would it be used
in N connectors.
Starting to see some water ingress on old, 5year, weather
proofed N connections.
--
On 11/15/2013 6:12 PM, Chuck Hogg
wrote:
We have been and it
I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on
eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place
has the version we use... *http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld
http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld*
Typically, we put it the barrel part of the N-Connector where the pin
We've been doing it this way for 6-7 years.
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
I haven't bought it in a long time (because I bought a big case of it on
eBay once at a huge discount and we still have inventory), but this place
has the version
The Cisco ones have RRM (Radio Resource Manager), which will throttle the
power down based on how strongly the APs hear each other. There are up to 7
different power levels. Not sure if Ruckus is that sophisticated, since they
are actually really autonomous APs just checking in to the zone
nods to Zach-
I've been building outdoor wireless (mostly mesh) networks since about 2002.
When I worked for Earthlink in 2006 and 2007 and deployed about 7 large Muni
systems (12,000 APs in Philly for example), it was an open system. Anyone
(including a WISP) who had the up-front $$ could get
They are not trying to penetrate indoors. That is where their SMB team
rolls in and installs indoor APs for free.
On Friday, November 15, 2013, ralph wrote:
They will not be using CPEs (repeaters) as far as I know. It already
penetrates pretty well indoors. (2.4, remember?) It just doesn’t
What brand do you use and where do you source it?
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102
From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 6:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dielectric
They are not trying to penetrate indoors. That is where their SMB team
rolls in and installs indoor APs for free.
On Friday, November 15, 2013, ralph wrote:
They will not be using CPEs (repeaters) as far as I know. It already
penetrates pretty well indoors. (2.4, remember?) It just doesn’t
I hope that I am not duplicating a post to this thread but...
When logging into our Wireless Orbit account (hotspot manager, radius server,
payment processing, etc... for those who are not familiar with them)... I see
a very disturbing message of the day:
I linked it previously, it's the Boss brand.
*http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld http://tinyurl.com/lezkpld*
Regards,
Chuck
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:
What brand do you use and where do you source it?
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
I am SO, so glad I am rural!!!
--
On 11/15/2013 8:57 PM, ralph wrote:
nods to Zach-
I've been building outdoor wireless (mostly mesh) networks since about
2002. When I worked for Earthlink in 2006 and 2007 and deployed about
7 large Muni systems (12,000 APs in Philly for example), it was
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