Re: [WISPA] 900 mhz

[Mark Koskenmaki]

Title: Message



I wanted to, but could not swing the 
cost.
 
Wait till the wife finds out I "borrowed" the house 
payment money to order in some stuff I need...
 
I might be homeless real soon...
 
G...
 
 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Charles Wu 
  To: 'WISPA General List' 
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:23 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz
  
  well...if you attended WiNOG, you would have a coupon for an 
  additional
   
  10% 
  off Waverider 900 MHz purchases
  20% 
  off Motorola Canopy Starter Pack purchases
   
  -Charles
   
   
  ---WISPNOG Park 
  City, UThttp://www.wispnog.comAugust 15-17, 
  2005 
  

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Of Mark KoskenmakiSent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:40 
AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] 900 
mhz
What is the absolute lowest cost 900 mhz stuff 
out there?
 
We JUST  got an AP functional (as in, 
powered up, antenna raised) at a new customer's site, and his neighbor was 
over and wants broadband... ASAP.
 
The problem is, that to the south of this site 
is up the hillside into the tree line.  
 
The west and north are open and wheat 
fields
I only need to go only 3-4 miles, but some 
areas will have a quarter mile or more of pine trees to go through the 
tops.   
 
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Re: [WISPA] PoE Passive

[Mark Koskenmaki]

I get these all over..
 
Ascendance, Jim Patient, Valemount, Judd... I think 
all of them have these for around 10 bucks each including shipping on a few 
.
 
 
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom 
  DeReggi 
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  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] PoE Passive
  
  Defacto sells them, but not sure what 
  cost.
   
  Tom DeReggi
   
  
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A. 
Huppenthal 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:43 
AM
Subject: [WISPA] PoE Passive
Passive PoE - Ebay item 5219201097 ...Has anyone seen 
these from a disty here in the US? If I mis-read the shipping its $6 per 
item to the US for a $7 item.



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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

Hell of a deal.. Gets my vote so far.. Michigan is cold though isn't it? 
Been a long time since I was up there... Whatever we do, I think we 
should have one of these this year... The summer in Aspen is pretty much 
gone. We had 2 weeks in July and now its sweater weather, I kid you not.



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

I have a pair of 2004 stand up wave runners we can ride all around.  
Michigan would be a nice place for the gathering.  What do ya'll 
think?  It can be the "Mid-West Tent Camp WISPA".  Lets do this mid 
September.  When and where, I'll be there.


Mac Dearman wrote:



 awww dude, the "day after"  the red red wine will make you feel like 
you rammed a freight train sometime in the night. I got to admit that 
I like the Chianti  - - - but in really small quantities!!  
hehehehehe - you use the wicker jug that the Chianta comes in to  put 
a candle in and place it on a shelf for a nice romantic, warm feeling 
here in Louisiana.


  I am all for a camp meeting somewhere - - please include me in the 
final destination, but the Mosquitoes down here are atrocious and I 
hear tales they stand flat footed and are have been known to have  - 
- - - well - - - - they say sex with Turkeys, but thats probably 
giving them a bit much credit. I reckon what I am saying is make it 
when its cooler and a Mosquito free environment please :-)   Swimming 
and jet skis would be a definite plus!


 I do have a "Big Creek"  and about 300 acres of open field behind my 
house, but then there is the Mosquito thing and all my neighbors 
would bring their Chianta and candles in the wicker encased bottles - 
- -  it would appear to be another seance and these local red neck 
Police would raid the party, drink the wine and break all the 
bottles  - - -  and then on Saturday mornings these folks get on a 
14" x 8' plank board, drag behind a 25HP Evinrude (outboard) and a 
14' aluminum boat and call it "stump jumping"- - - - -  Big Creek 
won't work.




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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

Mixing poisons is not a good thing. I'll stick with vsop or a glass or 
two of red wine. Good Chianti is amazingly inexpensive and really good..


Wherever it is, it'd be good to have minimum bugs.. Biting flies, ticks, 
mosquitos.. well... can be a real distraction. Although if you are going 
45-50 mph on a jetski, who cares.. :-) just wear sunglasses and wash 
them off from time to time.. ha ha ha...


Hell,I'd canoe down a river for that matter, or white water raft, or any 
number of things. Rogue River in OR I hear is nice.


Mac Dearman wrote:



 awww dude, the "day after"  the red red wine will make you feel like 
you rammed a freight train sometime in the night. I got to admit that 
I like the Chianti  - - - but in really small quantities!!  hehehehehe 
- you use the wicker jug that the Chianta comes in to  put a candle in 
and place it on a shelf for a nice romantic, warm feeling here in 
Louisiana.


  I am all for a camp meeting somewhere - - please include me in the 
final destination, but the Mosquitoes down here are atrocious and I 
hear tales they stand flat footed and are have been known to have  - - 
- - well - - - - they say sex with Turkeys, but thats probably giving 
them a bit much credit. I reckon what I am saying is make it when its 
cooler and a Mosquito free environment please :-)   Swimming and jet 
skis would be a definite plus!


 I do have a "Big Creek"  and about 300 acres of open field behind my 
house, but then there is the Mosquito thing and all my neighbors would 
bring their Chianta and candles in the wicker encased bottles - - -  
it would appear to be another seance and these local red neck Police 
would raid the party, drink the wine and break all the bottles  - - -  
and then on Saturday mornings these folks get on a 14" x 8' plank 
board, drag behind a 25HP Evinrude (outboard) and a 14' aluminum boat 
and call it "stump jumping"- - - - -  Big Creek won't work.




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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Rick Smith]

I used to like going to Nanog, because the vendors weren't there to sell you 
stuff - they were there to advertise.   And most of the people were there 
socially.   It was cool.

My how things change.

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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:03 AM
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That would rock - No Vendors or Anyone Making $$ from selling gear for profit 
to WISPs allowed ! 



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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:00 AM
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Its all a social thing for me. I don't go to shows to learn anything new

much any more. Its all on the Web, or as you say, in the trade show demo

/ exhibit areas - you can ask some tough questions, like, when will the Atlas 
radios be working reliably? They rock when they work, but I'm on pins and 
needles about the links I'm testing going south. hmmm.. If we all end up 
someplace this year that's just for WISPs, I'll bring a pair and setup a link 
for the whole period of time and have a 'bake-off'.. No

vendors allowed, or promoters..

Mac Dearman wrote:

>I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me something  
> everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint paying to 
> attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the exhibits and 
> the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going

> to these functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting 
> some I havent ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub 
> elbows with the guys whose gear I do use.
>
> Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles Wu wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking 
>> our event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative
WISP/ISP
>> shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON
>>
>> http://www.ispcon.com
>>
>> Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group 
>> (show
>> producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY 
>> HARD to cater to the small ISP/WISP
>>
>> -Charles
>> ---
>> WISPNOG Park City, UT
>> http://www.wispnog.com
>> August 15-17, 2005
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[JohnnyO]

That would rock - No Vendors or Anyone Making $$ from selling gear for
profit to WISPs allowed ! 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows


Its all a social thing for me. I don't go to shows to learn anything new

much any more. Its all on the Web, or as you say, in the trade show demo

/ exhibit areas - you can ask some tough questions, like, when will the 
Atlas radios be working reliably? They rock when they work, but I'm on 
pins and needles about the links I'm testing going south. hmmm.. If we 
all end up someplace this year that's just for WISPs, I'll bring a pair 
and setup a link for the whole period of time and have a 'bake-off'.. No

vendors allowed, or promoters..

Mac Dearman wrote:

>I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me
> something  everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint 
> paying to attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the 
> exhibits and the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going

> to these functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting 
> some I havent ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub 
> elbows with the guys whose gear I do use.
>
> Mac
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Charles Wu wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking
>> our
>> event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative
WISP/ISP
>> shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON
>>
>> http://www.ispcon.com
>>
>> Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group
>> (show
>> producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY 
>> HARD to
>> cater to the small ISP/WISP
>>
>> -Charles
>> ---
>> WISPNOG Park City, UT
>> http://www.wispnog.com
>> August 15-17, 2005
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

Its all a social thing for me. I don't go to shows to learn anything new 
much any more. Its all on the Web, or as you say, in the trade show demo 
/ exhibit areas - you can ask some tough questions, like, when will the 
Atlas radios be working reliably? They rock when they work, but I'm on 
pins and needles about the links I'm testing going south. hmmm.. If we 
all end up someplace this year that's just for WISPs, I'll bring a pair 
and setup a link for the whole period of time and have a 'bake-off'.. No 
vendors allowed, or promoters..


Mac Dearman wrote:

   I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me 
something  everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint 
paying to attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the 
exhibits and the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going 
to these functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting 
some I havent ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub 
elbows with the guys whose gear I do use.


Mac






Charles Wu wrote:


Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking 
our

event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative WISP/ISP
shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group 
(show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY 
HARD to

cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles 
---

WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005

 






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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

I've always liked Wisconsin (well for the long and beautiful summer, 
sorry I can't come in Feb though wow, it can be cold)...


I have to note here. This is really Scriv's idea, not mine and I don't 
want to step on his toes for this event. I don't know if he's going to 
chime in here, but I want him to give his blessing on whatever develops 
for a summer WISPA get together. I frankly am not all that stoked about 
WiNOG, since that was birthed by WISPA people, and then adopted, or 
kidnapped, if you prefer, when WISPA folk - me included, didn't jump in 
and get it organized and turned into a for-profit fest. All the best to 
it, but there's room for some jetskis and a different venue. Give me 
some smokin' watercraft, decent water, and some blue skys, a few other 
WISPs to BS with and I'm set for a hell of a good feeling weekend+..


A get together has always aligned with the non-profit, have fun, limit 
salesmanship - other than to each other by our mutual, hard one 
experiences - which are very very valuable. Be it in a tent by the 
river/lake or in an urban setting.. (motorcycles or aircraft - I'll play 
pilot - I managed earn a commercial multi-engine instrument rating some 
years ago) Not the same as a bunch of screaming jetskis chasing down the 
yachts.. ha ha ha.. Of course I'm exaggerating a bit here... WISPA water 
gang goes crazy... I can see the headlines now...


Frankly, I *need* the vacation..



Dylan Oliver wrote:

Spring Green, Wisconsin is truly lovely with all these damned hills.. 
I'll volunteer it!

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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Charles Wu]

No problem

I don't think I would be a good (or credible) source for information about
WISPCON, given that Michael A has started a defamation campaign against me

In terms of ISPCON:
I would recommend checking out Jon Price's (organizer of ISPCON) weblog to
get a "behind the scenes" look at ISPCON http://ispcon.blogs.com/

-Charles

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August 15-17, 2005

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Charles,

 I certainly didn't blacklist your show. I've just heard lots about it 
and know it pretty well, I don't know a thing about WISPCON for example, 
or any show other than ISPCON, which I have attended. This is a general 
discussion forum .. so discuss away..

Charles Wu wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking
>our event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative 
>WISP/ISP shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON
>
>http://www.ispcon.com
>
>Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group
>(show
>producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD to
>cater to the small ISP/WISP
>
>-Charles
>
>---
>WISPNOG Park City, UT
>http://www.wispnog.com
>August 15-17, 2005
>
>  
>

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Re: [WISPA] PoE Passive

[Tom DeReggi]

Defacto sells them, but not sure what 
cost.
 
Tom DeReggi
 

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  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] PoE Passive
  Passive PoE - Ebay item 5219201097 ...Has anyone seen these 
  from a disty here in the US? If I mis-read the shipping its $6 per item to the 
  US for a $7 item.
  
  

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RE: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering

[Brian Webster]

There is a session at WiNOG called WISPBONE and it is going to try an
address this topic. We'll keep you posted after the show to see if there is
any real interest. The basic idea is to see who wants to play and let their
backbone be part of it, then map out all the parties and their links. After
that we add all the major fiber players who have serious backhaul POPs that
we could get access to. Hopefully this will show a large network nationwide.
It may just be a pipe dream but we hope to get people interested in the
idea. Who knows, with the right players there may be close to the nationwide
link. It sure would be nice to eliminate the RBOCS. I remember back in the
early cellular days, the way they were able to finally deliver calls from
one market to the other was to link in the neighboring systems, once they
did that they magically had a nationwide network. If we map out all the WISP
players, we might show close to the same concept. There would have to be
many other details hammered out, but if we can show a good start to this
network it may give enough people interest to make it a reality.


Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com 



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Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:26 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering


Any thoughts on this?  It was talked about at WiNog 1, but not too much
since.  Are we working on getting connected from "sea to shining sea"?
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[WISPA] Nationwide Peering

[Brian Rohrbacher]

Any thoughts on this?  It was talked about at WiNog 1, but not too much 
since.  Are we working on getting connected from "sea to shining sea"?

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Brian Rohrbacher]

I have a pair of 2004 stand up wave runners we can ride all around.  
Michigan would be a nice place for the gathering.  What do ya'll think?  
It can be the "Mid-West Tent Camp WISPA".  Lets do this mid September.  
When and where, I'll be there.


Mac Dearman wrote:



 awww dude, the "day after"  the red red wine will make you feel like 
you rammed a freight train sometime in the night. I got to admit that 
I like the Chianti  - - - but in really small quantities!!  hehehehehe 
- you use the wicker jug that the Chianta comes in to  put a candle in 
and place it on a shelf for a nice romantic, warm feeling here in 
Louisiana.


  I am all for a camp meeting somewhere - - please include me in the 
final destination, but the Mosquitoes down here are atrocious and I 
hear tales they stand flat footed and are have been known to have  - - 
- - well - - - - they say sex with Turkeys, but thats probably giving 
them a bit much credit. I reckon what I am saying is make it when its 
cooler and a Mosquito free environment please :-)   Swimming and jet 
skis would be a definite plus!


 I do have a "Big Creek"  and about 300 acres of open field behind my 
house, but then there is the Mosquito thing and all my neighbors would 
bring their Chianta and candles in the wicker encased bottles - - -  
it would appear to be another seance and these local red neck Police 
would raid the party, drink the wine and break all the bottles  - - -  
and then on Saturday mornings these folks get on a 14" x 8' plank 
board, drag behind a 25HP Evinrude (outboard) and a 14' aluminum boat 
and call it "stump jumping"- - - - -  Big Creek won't work.



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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

Charles,

I certainly didn't blacklist your show. I've just heard lots about it 
and know it pretty well, I don't know a thing about WISPCON for example, 
or any show other than ISPCON, which I have attended. This is a general 
discussion forum .. so discuss away..


Charles Wu wrote:


Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking our
event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative WISP/ISP
shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group (show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD to
cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles  


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http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005

 



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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Mac Dearman]

 awww dude, the "day after"  the red red wine will make you feel like 
you rammed a freight train sometime in the night. I got to admit that I 
like the Chianti  - - - but in really small quantities!!  hehehehehe - 
you use the wicker jug that the Chianta comes in to  put a candle in and 
place it on a shelf for a nice romantic, warm feeling here in Louisiana.


  I am all for a camp meeting somewhere - - please include me in the 
final destination, but the Mosquitoes down here are atrocious and I hear 
tales they stand flat footed and are have been known to have  - - - - 
well - - - - they say sex with Turkeys, but thats probably giving them a 
bit much credit. I reckon what I am saying is make it when its cooler 
and a Mosquito free environment please :-)   Swimming and jet skis would 
be a definite plus!


 I do have a "Big Creek"  and about 300 acres of open field behind my 
house, but then there is the Mosquito thing and all my neighbors would 
bring their Chianta and candles in the wicker encased bottles - - -  it 
would appear to be another seance and these local red neck Police would 
raid the party, drink the wine and break all the bottles  - - -  and 
then on Saturday mornings these folks get on a 14" x 8' plank board, 
drag behind a 25HP Evinrude (outboard) and a 14' aluminum boat and call 
it "stump jumping"- - - - -  Big Creek won't work.


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A. Huppenthal wrote:

WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... 
I'll bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them 
down ($8)


I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just 
drive someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out with 
the family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a microphone and 
place for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile shot @ 
30 megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, community 
broadband concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... 
contest to see who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, 
backhaul and SM..


or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)

Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, hard 
headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless I get 
to dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but that's me. 
Maybe Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios.


WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  doughnuts 
after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all 
DSL/Cable/Community anti-trust activities, and a march on the City 
Hall (whatever City it is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A 
couple of places come to mind..


Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell 
Woodstock WiFi.



Mac Dearman wrote:


 I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I 
am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love 
to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and 
that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell 
antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can 
get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we 
feel relevant - - - -- - - -


 So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with double beds 
and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat 
all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning 
about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a 
watt!!  I do know that there are free buffets at certain hotels 
as well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into 
bad blood hanging with all these other ISP's


Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?








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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[JohnnyO]

Mac - this puzzles me - Could you please take a moment to re-write your
post and tell us exactly how you feel ! ;) You ridin with us to WISPCON
?

As far as your question Charles - Maybe if you were more HELPFUL to
people instead of a constant Walking Self Promo - maybe you'd get better
responses. 

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows


I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me something

everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint paying to 
attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the exhibits and 
the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going to these 
functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting some I havent 
ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub elbows with the 
guys whose gear I do use.

Mac






Charles Wu wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking 
>our event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative 
>WISP/ISP shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON
>
>http://www.ispcon.com
>
>Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group 
>(show
>producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD
to
>cater to the small ISP/WISP
>
>-Charles
>
>---
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>http://www.wispnog.com
>August 15-17, 2005
>
>  
>


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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Mac Dearman]

   I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me something  
everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint paying to 
attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the exhibits and 
the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going to these 
functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting some I havent 
ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub elbows with the 
guys whose gear I do use.


Mac






Charles Wu wrote:


Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking our
event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative WISP/ISP
shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group (show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD to
cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles  


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http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005

 




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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Charles Wu]

Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show "blacklisted" - but, taking our
event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative WISP/ISP
shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group (show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD to
cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles  

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Dylan Oliver]

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Re: [WISPA] PoE Passive

[Blair Davis]

Defacto Wireless has them.

Talk to Dave Peterson.



A. Huppenthal wrote:


Passive PoE - Ebay item 5219201097 ...
Has anyone seen these from a disty here in the US? If I mis-read the 
shipping its $6 per item to the US for a $7 item.





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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

It hasn't been organized at this point. Committee volunteers anyone? Its 
hot this month, but maybe September @ Land 'o Lakes?



Ron Wallace wrote:


Where and when is the "TENT CAMP WISPA"?

 Original message 
 


Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:39:24 -0600
From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows  
To: WISPA General List 


WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there 
   

man... I'll 
 

bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them 
   


down ($8)
 

I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we 
   

all just drive 
 

someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out 
   

with the 
 

family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a 
   

microphone and place 
 

for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile 
   

shot @ 30 
 

megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, 
   

community broadband 
 

concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... 
   

contest to see 
 

who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, 
   


backhaul and SM..
 


or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)

Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the 
   

couragous, hard 
 

headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody 
   

unless I get to 
 

dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but 
   

that's me. Maybe 
 


Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios.

WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  
   

doughnuts 
 

after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all 
   

DSL/Cable/Community 
 

anti-trust activities, and a march on the City Hall 
   

(whatever City it 
 

is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A couple of 
   

places come to 
 


mind..

Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I 
   

smell Woodstock 
 


WiFi.


Mac Dearman wrote:

   


I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my 
 

wireless bud's. I 
 

am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would 
 

really love 
 

to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and 
 

about it and 
 

that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how 
 

to spell 
 

antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of 
 

y'all. We can 
 

get together and have our own grown up discussion about 
 

whatever we 
 


feel relevant - - - -- - - -

So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with 
 

double beds 
 

and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every 
 

night and eat 
 

all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is 
 

learning 
 

about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make 
 

a 
 

watt!!  I do know that there are free buffets at 
 

certain hotels as 
 

well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have 
 

turned into bad 
 


blood hanging with all these other ISP's

Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?


 


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Re: [WISPA] PoE Passive

[Brian Rohrbacher]

That is the kind DemarcTech sells. 
http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-poe/poe-main.html
The pictire on the site is the old ones.  

A. Huppenthal wrote:

  
Passive PoE - Ebay item 5219201097 ...
Has anyone seen these from a disty here in the US? If I mis-read the
shipping its $6 per item to the US for a $7 item.
  
  
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[Ron Wallace]

Where and when is the "TENT CAMP WISPA"?

 Original message 
>Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 03:39:24 -0600
>From: "A. Huppenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows  
>To: WISPA General List 
>
>WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there 
man... I'll 
>bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them 
down ($8)
>
>I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we 
all just drive 
>someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out 
with the 
>family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a 
microphone and place 
>for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile 
shot @ 30 
>megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, 
community broadband 
>concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... 
contest to see 
>who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, 
backhaul and SM..
>
>or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)
>
>Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the 
couragous, hard 
>headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody 
unless I get to 
>dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but 
that's me. Maybe 
>Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios.
>
>WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  
doughnuts 
>after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all 
DSL/Cable/Community 
>anti-trust activities, and a march on the City Hall 
(whatever City it 
>is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A couple of 
places come to 
>mind..
>
>Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I 
smell Woodstock 
>WiFi.
>
>
>Mac Dearman wrote:
>
>>  I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -
>>
>> $500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my 
wireless bud's. I 
>> am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would 
really love 
>> to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and 
about it and 
>> that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how 
to spell 
>> antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of 
y'all. We can 
>> get together and have our own grown up discussion about 
whatever we 
>> feel relevant - - - -- - - -
>>
>>  So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with 
double beds 
>> and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every 
night and eat 
>> all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is 
learning 
>> about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make 
a 
>> watt!!  I do know that there are free buffets at 
certain hotels as 
>> well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have 
turned into bad 
>> blood hanging with all these other ISP's
>>
>> Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

I'd love to go, but have so little time I have to decide on only 1 trade 
show this year... Mountains around Utah are beautiful this time of year.



Don Renner wrote:


Rick,

Will see you in Utah.  Am getting in about 11:30pm on Sunday.  Will be 
at Mon meetings.  Is WISPA going to meet Monday?


Thanks,
Don Renner
NetsurfUSA
812-521-1876  cell
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- Original Message - From: "Rick Harnish" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows


I'm heading out to WINOG tonight.  I won't make Dallas, but I'll send 
you a

new tube of Boudreaux's.  Did you ever try that stuff on your head Mac.

I don't have any idea who else is going to Utah except Judd.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband & Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:39 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

 I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I am
gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love to go
to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and that is my
plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell antenna, but I
will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can get together and
have our own grown up discussion about whatever we feel relevant - - -
-- - - -

 So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with double beds
and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat all
the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning about
microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a watt!!  I do
know that there are free buffets at certain hotels as well IF you can
get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into bad blood hanging
with all these other ISP's

Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?


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A. Huppenthal wrote:


I'm thinking of going to a Trade Show this year. About the only one I
attend with any regularity is ISPCON, simply because I've been in this
business since 1996.  Does anyone go to W-ISPCON? Is there really a
difference between any of the trade shows? I've heard all about the
WISP-nog version of my ideas for a tradeshow, so I don't need to hear
more about that.


There are so many trade shows these days, I'm just looking for
comments from those of you who have attended a recent one and found it
worthwhile. Frankly I don't see any trade show that costs $500 or more
worthwhile any longer, but perhaps I'm entirely wrong, or its just
that I'm past the learning curve.

-AH




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RE: [WISPA] 900 mhz

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Title: Message



well...if you attended WiNOG, you would have a coupon for an 
additional
 
10% 
off Waverider 900 MHz purchases
20% 
off Motorola Canopy Starter Pack purchases
 
-Charles
 
 
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2005 

  
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  Mark KoskenmakiSent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:40 
  AMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] 900 
  mhz
  What is the absolute lowest cost 900 mhz stuff 
  out there?
   
  We JUST  got an AP functional (as in, 
  powered up, antenna raised) at a new customer's site, and his neighbor was 
  over and wants broadband... ASAP.
   
  The problem is, that to the south of this site is 
  up the hillside into the tree line.  
   
  The west and north are open and wheat 
  fields
  I only need to go only 3-4 miles, but some areas 
  will have a quarter mile or more of pine trees to go through the 
  tops.   
   
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[WISPA] PoE Passive

[A. Huppenthal]

Passive PoE - Ebay item 5219201097 ...
Has anyone seen these from a disty here in the US? If I mis-read the
shipping its $6 per item to the US for a $7 item.





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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

[A. Huppenthal]

WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... I'll 
bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them down ($8)


I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just drive 
someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out with the 
family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a microphone and place 
for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile shot @ 30 
megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, community broadband 
concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... contest to see 
who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, backhaul and SM..


or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)

Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, hard 
headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless I get to 
dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but that's me. Maybe 
Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios.


WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  doughnuts 
after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all DSL/Cable/Community 
anti-trust activities, and a march on the City Hall (whatever City it 
is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A couple of places come to 
mind..


Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell Woodstock 
WiFi.



Mac Dearman wrote:


 I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I 
am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love 
to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and 
that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell 
antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can 
get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we 
feel relevant - - - -- - - -


 So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with double beds 
and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat 
all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning 
about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a 
watt!!  I do know that there are free buffets at certain hotels as 
well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into bad 
blood hanging with all these other ISP's


Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?




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