Re: [WISPA] PoE Passive

2005-08-14 Thread Blair Davis

Defacto Wireless has them.

Talk to Dave Peterson.



A. Huppenthal wrote:


Passive PoE - Ebay item 5219201097 ...
Has anyone seen these from a disty here in the US? If I mis-read the 
shipping its $6 per item to the US for a $7 item.





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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread Charles Wu
Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show blacklisted - but, taking our
event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative WISP/ISP
shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group (show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD to
cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles  

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread Mac Dearman


 awww dude, the day after  the red red wine will make you feel like 
you rammed a freight train sometime in the night. I got to admit that I 
like the Chianti  - - - but in really small quantities!!  hehehehehe - 
you use the wicker jug that the Chianta comes in to  put a candle in and 
place it on a shelf for a nice romantic, warm feeling here in Louisiana.


  I am all for a camp meeting somewhere - - please include me in the 
final destination, but the Mosquitoes down here are atrocious and I hear 
tales they stand flat footed and are have been known to have  - - - - 
well - - - - they say sex with Turkeys, but thats probably giving them a 
bit much credit. I reckon what I am saying is make it when its cooler 
and a Mosquito free environment please :-)   Swimming and jet skis would 
be a definite plus!


 I do have a Big Creek  and about 300 acres of open field behind my 
house, but then there is the Mosquito thing and all my neighbors would 
bring their Chianta and candles in the wicker encased bottles - - -  it 
would appear to be another seance and these local red neck Police would 
raid the party, drink the wine and break all the bottles  - - -  and 
then on Saturday mornings these folks get on a 14 x 8' plank board, 
drag behind a 25HP Evinrude (outboard) and a 14' aluminum boat and call 
it stump jumping- - - - -  Big Creek won't work.


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A. Huppenthal wrote:

WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... 
I'll bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them 
down ($8)


I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just 
drive someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out with 
the family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a microphone and 
place for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile shot @ 
30 megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, community 
broadband concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... 
contest to see who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, 
backhaul and SM..


or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)

Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, hard 
headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless I get 
to dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but that's me. 
Maybe Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios.


WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  doughnuts 
after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all 
DSL/Cable/Community anti-trust activities, and a march on the City 
Hall (whatever City it is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A 
couple of places come to mind..


Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell 
Woodstock WiFi.



Mac Dearman wrote:


 I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I 
am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love 
to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and 
that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell 
antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can 
get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we 
feel relevant - - - -- - - -


 So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with double beds 
and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat 
all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning 
about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a 
watt!!  I do know that there are free buffets at certain hotels 
as well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into 
bad blood hanging with all these other ISP's


Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?








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RE: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering

2005-08-14 Thread Brian Webster
There is a session at WiNOG called WISPBONE and it is going to try an
address this topic. We'll keep you posted after the show to see if there is
any real interest. The basic idea is to see who wants to play and let their
backbone be part of it, then map out all the parties and their links. After
that we add all the major fiber players who have serious backhaul POPs that
we could get access to. Hopefully this will show a large network nationwide.
It may just be a pipe dream but we hope to get people interested in the
idea. Who knows, with the right players there may be close to the nationwide
link. It sure would be nice to eliminate the RBOCS. I remember back in the
early cellular days, the way they were able to finally deliver calls from
one market to the other was to link in the neighboring systems, once they
did that they magically had a nationwide network. If we map out all the WISP
players, we might show close to the same concept. There would have to be
many other details hammered out, but if we can show a good start to this
network it may give enough people interest to make it a reality.


Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com



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Any thoughts on this?  It was talked about at WiNog 1, but not too much
since.  Are we working on getting connected from sea to shining sea?
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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread Charles Wu
No problem

I don't think I would be a good (or credible) source for information about
WISPCON, given that Michael A has started a defamation campaign against me

In terms of ISPCON:
I would recommend checking out Jon Price's (organizer of ISPCON) weblog to
get a behind the scenes look at ISPCON http://ispcon.blogs.com/

-Charles

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Charles,

 I certainly didn't blacklist your show. I've just heard lots about it 
and know it pretty well, I don't know a thing about WISPCON for example, 
or any show other than ISPCON, which I have attended. This is a general 
discussion forum .. so discuss away..

Charles Wu wrote:

Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show blacklisted - but, taking
our event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative 
WISP/ISP shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group
(show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY HARD to
cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles

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http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005

  


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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
I've always liked Wisconsin (well for the long and beautiful summer, 
sorry I can't come in Feb though wow, it can be cold)...


I have to note here. This is really Scriv's idea, not mine and I don't 
want to step on his toes for this event. I don't know if he's going to 
chime in here, but I want him to give his blessing on whatever develops 
for a summer WISPA get together. I frankly am not all that stoked about 
WiNOG, since that was birthed by WISPA people, and then adopted, or 
kidnapped, if you prefer, when WISPA folk - me included, didn't jump in 
and get it organized and turned into a for-profit fest. All the best to 
it, but there's room for some jetskis and a different venue. Give me 
some smokin' watercraft, decent water, and some blue skys, a few other 
WISPs to BS with and I'm set for a hell of a good feeling weekend+..


A get together has always aligned with the non-profit, have fun, limit 
salesmanship - other than to each other by our mutual, hard one 
experiences - which are very very valuable. Be it in a tent by the 
river/lake or in an urban setting.. (motorcycles or aircraft - I'll play 
pilot - I managed earn a commercial multi-engine instrument rating some 
years ago) Not the same as a bunch of screaming jetskis chasing down the 
yachts.. ha ha ha.. Of course I'm exaggerating a bit here... WISPA water 
gang goes crazy... I can see the headlines now...


Frankly, I *need* the vacation..



Dylan Oliver wrote:

Spring Green, Wisconsin is truly lovely with all these damned hills.. 
I'll volunteer it!

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
Its all a social thing for me. I don't go to shows to learn anything new 
much any more. Its all on the Web, or as you say, in the trade show demo 
/ exhibit areas - you can ask some tough questions, like, when will the 
Atlas radios be working reliably? They rock when they work, but I'm on 
pins and needles about the links I'm testing going south. hmmm.. If we 
all end up someplace this year that's just for WISPs, I'll bring a pair 
and setup a link for the whole period of time and have a 'bake-off'.. No 
vendors allowed, or promoters..


Mac Dearman wrote:

   I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me 
something  everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint 
paying to attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the 
exhibits and the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going 
to these functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting 
some I havent ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub 
elbows with the guys whose gear I do use.


Mac






Charles Wu wrote:


Hi,

Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show blacklisted - but, taking 
our

event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative WISP/ISP
shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

http://www.ispcon.com

Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group 
(show
producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY 
HARD to

cater to the small ISP/WISP

-Charles 
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WISPNOG Park City, UT
http://www.wispnog.com
August 15-17, 2005

 






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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread JohnnyO
That would rock - No Vendors or Anyone Making $$ from selling gear for
profit to WISPs allowed ! 



-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:00 AM
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Its all a social thing for me. I don't go to shows to learn anything new

much any more. Its all on the Web, or as you say, in the trade show demo

/ exhibit areas - you can ask some tough questions, like, when will the 
Atlas radios be working reliably? They rock when they work, but I'm on 
pins and needles about the links I'm testing going south. hmmm.. If we 
all end up someplace this year that's just for WISPs, I'll bring a pair 
and setup a link for the whole period of time and have a 'bake-off'.. No

vendors allowed, or promoters..

Mac Dearman wrote:

I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me
 something  everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint 
 paying to attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the 
 exhibits and the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going

 to these functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting 
 some I havent ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub 
 elbows with the guys whose gear I do use.

 Mac






 Charles Wu wrote:

 Hi,

 Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show blacklisted - but, taking
 our
 event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative
WISP/ISP
 shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

 http://www.ispcon.com

 Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group
 (show
 producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY 
 HARD to
 cater to the small ISP/WISP

 -Charles
 ---
 WISPNOG Park City, UT
 http://www.wispnog.com
 August 15-17, 2005

  




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RE: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread Rick Smith
I used to like going to Nanog, because the vendors weren't there to sell you 
stuff - they were there to advertise.   And most of the people were there 
socially.   It was cool.

My how things change.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:03 AM
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That would rock - No Vendors or Anyone Making $$ from selling gear for profit 
to WISPs allowed ! 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 12:00 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows


Its all a social thing for me. I don't go to shows to learn anything new

much any more. Its all on the Web, or as you say, in the trade show demo

/ exhibit areas - you can ask some tough questions, like, when will the Atlas 
radios be working reliably? They rock when they work, but I'm on pins and 
needles about the links I'm testing going south. hmmm.. If we all end up 
someplace this year that's just for WISPs, I'll bring a pair and setup a link 
for the whole period of time and have a 'bake-off'.. No

vendors allowed, or promoters..

Mac Dearman wrote:

I personally am so sick of every F**ker trying to sell me something  
 everytime I turn around. I am going to WispCon, but I aint paying to 
 attend a damn thing. Someone will give me a pass for the exhibits and 
 the rest of the sales BS can suck a limb. I do like going

 to these functions for the meeting of wireless buddies and meeting 
 some I havent ever had the pleasure of meeting. I also like to rub 
 elbows with the guys whose gear I do use.

 Mac






 Charles Wu wrote:

 Hi,

 Not sure what I did to get the WiNOG show blacklisted - but, taking 
 our event out of the mix, if you were going to look at alternative
WISP/ISP
 shows, I'd highly recommend checking out ISPCON

 http://www.ispcon.com

 Although wireless is just one component of the show, the Golden Group 
 (show
 producers) is a highly professional organization that tries REALLY 
 HARD to cater to the small ISP/WISP

 -Charles
 ---
 WISPNOG Park City, UT
 http://www.wispnog.com
 August 15-17, 2005

  




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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-14 Thread A. Huppenthal
Hell of a deal.. Gets my vote so far.. Michigan is cold though isn't it? 
Been a long time since I was up there... Whatever we do, I think we 
should have one of these this year... The summer in Aspen is pretty much 
gone. We had 2 weeks in July and now its sweater weather, I kid you not.



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

I have a pair of 2004 stand up wave runners we can ride all around.  
Michigan would be a nice place for the gathering.  What do ya'll 
think?  It can be the Mid-West Tent Camp WISPA.  Lets do this mid 
September.  When and where, I'll be there.


Mac Dearman wrote:



 awww dude, the day after  the red red wine will make you feel like 
you rammed a freight train sometime in the night. I got to admit that 
I like the Chianti  - - - but in really small quantities!!  
hehehehehe - you use the wicker jug that the Chianta comes in to  put 
a candle in and place it on a shelf for a nice romantic, warm feeling 
here in Louisiana.


  I am all for a camp meeting somewhere - - please include me in the 
final destination, but the Mosquitoes down here are atrocious and I 
hear tales they stand flat footed and are have been known to have  - 
- - - well - - - - they say sex with Turkeys, but thats probably 
giving them a bit much credit. I reckon what I am saying is make it 
when its cooler and a Mosquito free environment please :-)   Swimming 
and jet skis would be a definite plus!


 I do have a Big Creek  and about 300 acres of open field behind my 
house, but then there is the Mosquito thing and all my neighbors 
would bring their Chianta and candles in the wicker encased bottles - 
- -  it would appear to be another seance and these local red neck 
Police would raid the party, drink the wine and break all the 
bottles  - - -  and then on Saturday mornings these folks get on a 
14 x 8' plank board, drag behind a 25HP Evinrude (outboard) and a 
14' aluminum boat and call it stump jumping- - - - -  Big Creek 
won't work.




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