RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Mac Dearman
Travis, I have never sent him anything to repair for me, but I have sold him lots of the old Alvarion 3mbps stuff from some other ISP buyouts. They seemed to be nice folks and have been at it for a long time. 1-866-439-5469 http://store.ezlinx.net/ Mac -Original Message- From:

[WISPA] Grounding

2007-07-19 Thread Mike Hammett
What are those of you that are connecting different buildings together with cat 5\6 cable doing WRT grounding? Aren't all grounding systems with anything conductive linking them supposed to be bonded together so that the equipment doesn't become the path to ground? Is this as simple as

RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread wifi
I sent them 5 units last month, one 5830 AP 5800 Su and 3 Fox 5800. Over a month later they sent them back to me, none repaired. I am working with another company that is training on the repair, may have another option soon. Victoria Proffer www.stlbroadband.com CEO 314-974-5600

RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Jack Weinberg
When you send us something that has been destroyed, its rather difficult to repair. Some units are beyond repair, even at the manufacturer. Remember we do not charge for unrepaired units. Ezlinx.net Inc. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701

RE: [WISPA] Grounding

2007-07-19 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps PhD
Do not connect buildings with copper cable, unless they are bonded to the same single point ground system.. This is what wireless and fiber are for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:09 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Grounding

2007-07-19 Thread Mike Hammett
I agree that fiber and wireless would circumvent the issue entirely. The telco and cableco run copper from building to building. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kenneth M. Chipps PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA

RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread V Proffer
Oh I forgot, those are the ones I backed over with my duly 3 or 4 times, lol. Normal wear and tear. Two, that I know of had burnt out Ethernet ports. Your tech did state that one was repaired, when in fact it was not. I guess my real issue was the fact that it took over a month before any one

RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Jack Weinberg
Victoria if you ever have response issues with us please call me directly. Jack Weinberg, President 69 Public Square , 14th Floor Wilkes-Barre, PA 18701 570-823-9804 1-866-439-5469 570-823-9867 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ezlinx.net repairs and refurbishes Motorola, Alvarion, Tranze, Trango,

RE: [WISPA] Grounding

2007-07-19 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps PhD
Different systems. They also do not install expensive electronic devices in those buildings at the end of the cable runs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Larry A Weidig
I cannot comment about Trango, but we have used them in the past for Alvarion gear. Our results have been a large number returned no repair (which we were not charged for), but a large number of the repaired radios failing after being put back in service. Most of the time for the exact

[WISPA] Dead RF Canopy 900APC.

2007-07-19 Thread Scottie Arnett
Hello Lists, I have a 900 Canopy APC that the RF seems to be damaged in. I can connect to it if I get within 10 feet of it, LOL, with a RSSI of about 1200. And this is with a 10 dB antenna on the AP and a 14dB antenna on the SM. I have checked everything I can think of, i.e. changed pigtails,

RE: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Jack: In general, there are less troubleshooter/radio repairman training classes and vocational programs in the public school system. I had a discussion about this with my 82 year old buddy who is an old Motorola radioman and ARRL member. Part of this stems from the buy it and chuck it and

[WISPA] Sprint Nextel and Clearwire

2007-07-19 Thread Frank Muto
Sprint Nextel and Clearwire have announced that they will jointly construct their WiMAX networks and eventually sell the services jointly under one brand. The deal still needs to gain approval by the Department of Justice and the FCC because the companies plan on exchanging selected 2.5 GHz

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Actually, if they come back repaired... Thats a pretty good price, considering from a manufactuer, that has the tools and knowledge to verify a proper repair. Atleast, if we are talking about the higher cost radios 900, 5830, APs, etc If you are referring to Fox Atlas CPEs, that sell for

[WISPA] service

2007-07-19 Thread David Peterson
If anyone services Muskegon, MI (Cloverville area) please hit me offlist. David No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM

[WISPA] service in Maine

2007-07-19 Thread Mike Delp
Does anybody have service in the area of Bristol and Bremen Maine? 6 miles NE of Bristol and 1.5 Mi East of Bremen ish. Please let me know Thanks Mike No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date:

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Jack, I respect you for accepting repair jobs, where you do not charge for unrepaired items. There is a real cost to the intial troubleshooting. I think its great to have one more option for possible repair. I'll share some personal insight. This is not directed at ezlink, but al lreapir

Re: [WISPA] Sprint Nextel and Clearwire

2007-07-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Interesting to note that Clearwire in many cases uses Licensed Dragon wave for backhaul, and Sprint jsut recently purchased large amounts of Dragonwave stock (or something like that), and both have licensed 2.5Ghz. I think this was probably a good move for Sprint and Clearwire, and it looks

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Tom - I worked with field technicians, Call Centers and I trained Call Centers in previous life and agree with you. I think it is also a training issue and I.T. issue. I recall my Call Center/RMA standard operating procedures (SOPs) required just what you said - the more detail the better in RMA.

[WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more after tomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Patrick Leary
Well folks, after all this time the July 20, 2007 deadline is now upon us. Effective tomorrow it is illegal for all vendors to sell legacy 5.3 GHz into the U.S. Everyone must now wait for the FCC certifications to come for the new gear that vendors will be building. The rules require that 5.3 GHz

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread JohnnyO
Jack - nice signature :) Did Cliff tell you to throw that in there LOL JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Jack Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] trango repairs When you send us something

RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Brad Belton
I could swear I detect a slight jubilation in your tone Patrick. Is this rule change really in the best interest of the UL fixed wireless operator? What better excuse could Alvarion ask for in not offering an UL dual or tri-band product? Now you are comfortably able to hang your hat on the FCC

RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Patrick Leary
You have real issues Brad. The simple point is that the rule change is upon us. Debating whether or not is good is a pointless endeavor -- this has been known for YEARS and the time to debate the rule itself has long past. If you wish to waste your breath trying to provoke an argument, go for it,

RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Brad Belton
?? I guess you missed the grin at the end of my jest. Sorry you have so little room for a bit of humor. No need to continue this here. On my way out to eat... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday,

[WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Patrick Leary
[sorry for the cross posting, but the points are worth being widely distributed] Paul, Alvarion's interpretation is the same as Trango's, such that IF you as an operator have the units in your inventory, then you can put them up without too much worry (though the FCC has not said this is okay or

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Travis Johnson
I'm talking mainly about radios we pay around $350 each for brand new at $200 for repair, we have just been piling them on a shelf... but if we could find someone to fix them for $100, it would be worth it. The FOX and Atlas units we just throw in the garbage. :( Travis Microserv Tom

Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any more aftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Travis Johnson
Rumor has it that Trango is just waiting FCC approval for a new triband 5ghz AP (5.3ghz, 5.4ghz and 5.8ghz). It will also have more horsepower than the current 5830, but still be backward compatible with existing SU's. Same 10Mbps bandwidth limit however. Travis Microserv Brad Belton wrote:

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Travis: Isn't the other factor also that you have to buy some brands in 100 bundle pack/500 bundle and therefore it is not as simple as just replace with new because its cheaper than repairing?? Regarding unrepairable Atlas and Fox, I think you can get some money at electronic recycler in your

RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Gino Villarini
If I was Trango, I would add a 2nd rf card to the APs, allowing to maintain old customers on 5.8 and adding new to the 5.4 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[WISPA] dielectric grease

2007-07-19 Thread RickG
My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA

[WISPA] dielectric grease

2007-07-19 Thread RickG
My installer also does satellite installs. He says they use dielectric grease to water proof connections. Why not use that instead of mastic tape? -RickG Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA

Re: {Spam?} [WISPA] RE: Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy any moreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Scottie Arnett
OK, disregard my last post. What will they do about all these people selling gear on ebay that is being affected? -- Original Message -- From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:07:45

RE: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buy anymoreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Brad Belton
I've heard the rumor as well, but was hoping for more concrete evidence that the product was nearing shipment. Agreed, Trango could develop an AP with both existing and new technology support. Do we really need super cheap APs? It doesn't make much if any difference in our business model if the

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread George Rogato
Travis, if it was a very common problem with all your units and you know what needs to be replaced, there's probably a company near you that does board component replacements. I know a guy who owned a company that did just this. If there is a lot of units and it's all the same parts you

Re: [WISPA] trango repairs

2007-07-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
$350+ That makes sense. FoxAtlas- The good news for us is it has not been a big problem for us because we really haven't had many failed units. I'm surprised how long they have lasted working in the field. We keep the cases of failed ones, befor ehitting the trash bin, in case the clips

Re: [WISPA] Bison Pro Fab

2007-07-19 Thread Jack Unger
Gino, Well, I'd like to see it to believe it but then I would have no choice but to humbly respect, admire and praise any company that could fabricate bisons. jack Gino Villarini wrote: Anyone with experience with this company? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buyanymoreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Do we really need super cheap APs? Be careful what you say. Yes we need cheap APs. The reason is for subscriber relay gear (2 radios, one for subscriber, one for rebroadcast AP.) As long as the mentality is APs are expensive, there will never be a cheap Relay enbaled subscriber unit (which

Re: [WISPA] Witching hour looms for 5.3 GHz - Can't buyanymoreaftertomorrow

2007-07-19 Thread Jeromie Reeves
$1500 aps sure would hurt me. I do complete relays for less then $500 as it is (legal too!) In a few months you will be able ot roam 100% (or very close to it) my town on my service. I would love to have 5.3/5.4 for my short hops. Right now 2.4 does fine but I know that will not always be the