Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers
I sent it to him already. It is a large enough file that I have no intentions of sending it to the list because the bandwidth consumption to send it to everyone is a waste. If anyone who is a paid WISPA member needs the document then feel free to request it from me directly. All the best, Scriv Rick Harnish wrote: Ron, Please be patient. John sent his secretary an email asking her to prepare the copy. He is out of touch for the next two days working on some important projects. I'm sure he will get it to you as quickly as he can. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers hey john how Do I access this document, Thanks Ron Wallace -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 05:43 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Cc: 'Dori Crow' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers Will do. Dori, please send me an electronic version of our contractor agreement so I can share it with the WISPA members on our [EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. I will forward it once you email it to me directly. Thanks, Scriv CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Scriv, On the member list, would other members share their contract for "contract installers" please. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers Find the guys in your area who do Dish and Direc TV installs. They will do the job for $75 to $100. Scriv Ron Wallace wrote: To All, Again I would lik to use some contract installers. Anyone know any? I spoke with an Indiana WISP last year, but can't find his e-mail. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Contract Installers
Ron, Please be patient. John sent his secretary an email asking her to prepare the copy. He is out of touch for the next two days working on some important projects. I'm sure he will get it to you as quickly as he can. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers hey john how Do I access this document, Thanks Ron Wallace >-Original Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 05:43 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Cc: 'Dori Crow' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers > >Will do. Dori, please send me an electronic version of our contractor >agreement so I can share it with the WISPA members on our >[EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. I will forward it once you email it to me >directly. >Thanks, >Scriv > > >CHUCK PROFITO wrote: >> Scriv, >> On the member list, would other members share their contract for "contract >> installers" please. >> >> Chuck Profito >> 209-988-7388 >> CV-ACCESS, INC >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Providing High Speed Broadband >> to Rural Central California >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of John Scrivner >> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:11 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers >> >> >> Find the guys in your area who do Dish and Direc TV installs. They will >> do the job for $75 to $100. >> Scriv >> >> >> Ron Wallace wrote: >> >>> To All, >>> >>> Again I would lik to use some contract installers. Anyone know any? I >>> spoke with an Indiana WISP last year, but can't find his e-mail. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Wallace >>> Hahnron, Inc. >>> 220 S. Jackson Dt. >>> Addison, MI 49220 >>> >>> Phone: (517)547-8410 >>> Mobile: (517)605-4542 >>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >--- - >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ >--- - >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
My mom and sister have CDMA handsets with SIM cards. That said, however, they're dual mode CDMA\iDEN. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "David Sovereen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Alltell is all CDMA. They have acquired a couple companies that were GSM, but they pretty quickly migrate custoemrs to CDMA handsets and replace the equipment at the towers. Alltel/Verizon/Sprint = CDMA (no SIM cards) AT&T Wireless/Cingular and T-Mobile = GSM (SIM cards) Dave - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I think the Alltel network around us is all GSM based which would mean, I would assume, that we could load a SIM card into any unlocked GSM device and use it on their network. Any reason why I might be wrong with this thinking? Anyone ever load a SIM card from an unlocked device for use on their home GSM network (be it Cingular or other)? Scriv David E. Smith wrote: JohnnyO wrote: I've used my Cingular 8125 to do SSH and Web based management I have not looked into what upgrades they have for this but it's been nice at times. What SSH client are you using? (And does the keyboard actually have a Ctrl key?) It's likely I'll still be stuck with a Blackberry because of cell coverage, sadly. (Around here, the best coverage by far is Alltel, who recently bought out local company First Cellular; AT&T/Cingular has, by most accounts, pretty iffy coverage. And Alltel is all about the Blackberry. Either that or the Moto Q.) I'll look into that one, though. Thanks for the reassurance that my idea isn't totally nuts. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2003 Server/Slipstream/SP2/Product Key -Please help
On 8/6/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Sounds like your using SATA. If so, disable the AHCI in the bios, it > will drop the chipset into compatibility mode. worse case you might > need to drop a small PATA drive (or flash) in and use it to boot from > first. Good suggestion, Trying that method, in AHCI mode, every driver I use shows the raid array that shows 2 separate dives, I then installed the OS on a single drive (tried with and without the second drive of the array), Installs go smooth, Accepts the Product Key, every time, on final reboot says that the widows installation is corrupt, and my only choice is use recovery console, (fixmbr etc) fixes and nothing worked. I am going to work a bit to check out the media-see if a bit of CD type codes will work. If not, I'll have to find a backup copy of the Newsgroups that is R2, then change the keys back after its installed. Thanks all, Zack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
HTC 8525 http://www.america.htc.com/products/8525/default.html Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around "pager" for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Alltell is all CDMA. They have acquired a couple companies that were GSM, but they pretty quickly migrate custoemrs to CDMA handsets and replace the equipment at the towers. Alltel/Verizon/Sprint = CDMA (no SIM cards) AT&T Wireless/Cingular and T-Mobile = GSM (SIM cards) Dave - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I think the Alltel network around us is all GSM based which would mean, I would assume, that we could load a SIM card into any unlocked GSM device and use it on their network. Any reason why I might be wrong with this thinking? Anyone ever load a SIM card from an unlocked device for use on their home GSM network (be it Cingular or other)? Scriv David E. Smith wrote: JohnnyO wrote: I've used my Cingular 8125 to do SSH and Web based management I have not looked into what upgrades they have for this but it's been nice at times. What SSH client are you using? (And does the keyboard actually have a Ctrl key?) It's likely I'll still be stuck with a Blackberry because of cell coverage, sadly. (Around here, the best coverage by far is Alltel, who recently bought out local company First Cellular; AT&T/Cingular has, by most accounts, pretty iffy coverage. And Alltel is all about the Blackberry. Either that or the Moto Q.) I'll look into that one, though. Thanks for the reassurance that my idea isn't totally nuts. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2003 Server/Slipstream/SP2/Product Key -Please help
I have plenty of ISA ones -- nowadays your lucky to find a standard PCI slot. This server board only has 1 PCI slot. I'm not pulling this thing off the rack-put in a PCI card just to find out that windows doesn't have a driver for it... I can see it now... the server would end up somewhere other than the data center Zack On 8/6/07, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Zack Kneisley wrote: > > [ snip: a Microsoft horror story ] > > Do they even MAKE add-on (PCI) floppy controllers anymore? Sounds like > that may be your only viable solution. > > I thought the Win2003 installer could read from a USB flash stick, > though it's been a while (and the last time I needed add-on drivers, I > was working on a machine so old it still had an onboard floppy > controller). > > Really, the only thing I have to add is "good luck." > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Dave/Mike: Handango has a bevy of software and "handheld applications". See weblink below http://www.handango.com/home.jsp?siteId=1 F. --- "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the > way to go, but I haven't > > tried it. > > The device would probably work, but Sprint's > coverage around here is > atrocious. (My personal phone is on Sprint, and it > doesn't work reliably > at about half of our tower locations, for instance.) > > Based on cell coverage, I'll probably have to go > with Alltel or (maybe) > AT&T. I've got more experience with Alltel's phones > (that's what > basically everyone else in the office uses) and know > their coverage is > pretty good in my service area; I'm just concerned > about finding a > device and software that will cover what I need. > > David Smith > MVN.net > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I think the Alltel network around us is all GSM based which would mean, I would assume, that we could load a SIM card into any unlocked GSM device and use it on their network. Any reason why I might be wrong with this thinking? Anyone ever load a SIM card from an unlocked device for use on their home GSM network (be it Cingular or other)? Scriv David E. Smith wrote: JohnnyO wrote: I've used my Cingular 8125 to do SSH and Web based management I have not looked into what upgrades they have for this but it's been nice at times. What SSH client are you using? (And does the keyboard actually have a Ctrl key?) It's likely I'll still be stuck with a Blackberry because of cell coverage, sadly. (Around here, the best coverage by far is Alltel, who recently bought out local company First Cellular; AT&T/Cingular has, by most accounts, pretty iffy coverage. And Alltel is all about the Blackberry. Either that or the Moto Q.) I'll look into that one, though. Thanks for the reassurance that my idea isn't totally nuts. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2003 Server/Slipstream/SP2/Product Key -Please help
Sounds like your using SATA. If so, disable the AHCI in the bios, it will drop the chipset into compatibility mode. worse case you might need to drop a small PATA drive (or flash) in and use it to boot from first. On 8/6/07, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zack Kneisley wrote: > > [ snip: a Microsoft horror story ] > > Do they even MAKE add-on (PCI) floppy controllers anymore? Sounds like > that may be your only viable solution. > > I thought the Win2003 installer could read from a USB flash stick, > though it's been a while (and the last time I needed add-on drivers, I > was working on a machine so old it still had an onboard floppy controller). > > Really, the only thing I have to add is "good luck." > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers
hey john how Do I access this document, Thanks Ron Wallace >-Original Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 05:43 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Cc: 'Dori Crow' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers > >Will do. Dori, please send me an electronic version of our contractor >agreement so I can share it with the WISPA members on our >[EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. I will forward it once you email it to me >directly. >Thanks, >Scriv > > >CHUCK PROFITO wrote: >> Scriv, >> On the member list, would other members share their contract for "contract >> installers" please. >> >> Chuck Profito >> 209-988-7388 >> CV-ACCESS, INC >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Providing High Speed Broadband >> to Rural Central California >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of John Scrivner >> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:11 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers >> >> >> Find the guys in your area who do Dish and Direc TV installs. They will >> do the job for $75 to $100. >> Scriv >> >> >> Ron Wallace wrote: >> >>> To All, >>> >>> Again I would lik to use some contract installers. Anyone know any? I >>> spoke with an Indiana WISP last year, but can't find his e-mail. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Wallace >>> Hahnron, Inc. >>> 220 S. Jackson Dt. >>> Addison, MI 49220 >>> >>> Phone: (517)547-8410 >>> Mobile: (517)605-4542 >>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers
OK, i went to wispaweb site and could not find this-an electronic version of our contractor agreement - I know I'm thick, but could someone help me out here. Ron Wallace >-Original Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 05:43 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Cc: 'Dori Crow' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers > >Will do. Dori, please send me an electronic version of our contractor >agreement so I can share it with the WISPA members on our >[EMAIL PROTECTED] list server. I will forward it once you email it to me >directly. >Thanks, >Scriv > > >CHUCK PROFITO wrote: >> Scriv, >> On the member list, would other members share their contract for "contract >> installers" please. >> >> Chuck Profito >> 209-988-7388 >> CV-ACCESS, INC >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Providing High Speed Broadband >> to Rural Central California >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of John Scrivner >> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:11 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers >> >> >> Find the guys in your area who do Dish and Direc TV installs. They will >> do the job for $75 to $100. >> Scriv >> >> >> Ron Wallace wrote: >> >>> To All, >>> >>> Again I would lik to use some contract installers. Anyone know any? I >>> spoke with an Indiana WISP last year, but can't find his e-mail. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Wallace >>> Hahnron, Inc. >>> 220 S. Jackson Dt. >>> Addison, MI 49220 >>> >>> Phone: (517)547-8410 >>> Mobile: (517)605-4542 >>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
One of my employees has the HTC Mogul. He's got Sprint (who we left because I got tired of dropped calls and the limited coverage). They had it in stores starting last month. Our company is on Verizon, and Verizon hasn't released it yet, so I'm still waiting, but that is definitely going to be my next PDA phone. Runs Windows Mobile 6 and you can do just about anything you'd ever want with it. The rumor on the street is that Verizon will have it in stores around November. I'm particularly excited because Verizon is in the process of upgrading the towers in our area to EVDO (my phone keeps switching between 1X and EV, so I know its close), so the speed of e-mail and web on it should be pretty good. Dave - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Right, I know some people on the pre-Alltel service down there. What technology does Alltel use? I'd imagine you could get the HTC Mogul (really made by UTStarcom) to work on any CDMA provider. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Mike Hammett wrote: I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the way to go, but I haven't tried it. The device would probably work, but Sprint's coverage around here is atrocious. (My personal phone is on Sprint, and it doesn't work reliably at about half of our tower locations, for instance.) Based on cell coverage, I'll probably have to go with Alltel or (maybe) AT&T. I've got more experience with Alltel's phones (that's what basically everyone else in the office uses) and know their coverage is pretty good in my service area; I'm just concerned about finding a device and software that will cover what I need. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Right, I know some people on the pre-Alltel service down there. What technology does Alltel use? I'd imagine you could get the HTC Mogul (really made by UTStarcom) to work on any CDMA provider. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Mike Hammett wrote: I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the way to go, but I haven't tried it. The device would probably work, but Sprint's coverage around here is atrocious. (My personal phone is on Sprint, and it doesn't work reliably at about half of our tower locations, for instance.) Based on cell coverage, I'll probably have to go with Alltel or (maybe) AT&T. I've got more experience with Alltel's phones (that's what basically everyone else in the office uses) and know their coverage is pretty good in my service area; I'm just concerned about finding a device and software that will cover what I need. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers
Thanks Scriv, I'm looking. >-Original Message- >From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2007 05:10 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Contract Installers > >Find the guys in your area who do Dish and Direc TV installs. They will >do the job for $75 to $100. >Scriv > > >Ron Wallace wrote: >> To All, >> >> Again I would lik to use some contract installers. Anyone know any? I spoke >> with an Indiana WISP last year, but can't find his e-mail. >> >> >> >> Ron Wallace >> Hahnron, Inc. >> 220 S. Jackson Dt. >> Addison, MI 49220 >> >> Phone: (517)547-8410 >> Mobile: (517)605-4542 >> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >WISPA Wants You! Join today! >http://signup.wispa.org/ > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2003 Server/Slipstream/SP2/Product Key -Please help
Zack Kneisley wrote: [ snip: a Microsoft horror story ] Do they even MAKE add-on (PCI) floppy controllers anymore? Sounds like that may be your only viable solution. I thought the Win2003 installer could read from a USB flash stick, though it's been a while (and the last time I needed add-on drivers, I was working on a machine so old it still had an onboard floppy controller). Really, the only thing I have to add is "good luck." David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Mike Hammett wrote: I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the way to go, but I haven't tried it. The device would probably work, but Sprint's coverage around here is atrocious. (My personal phone is on Sprint, and it doesn't work reliably at about half of our tower locations, for instance.) Based on cell coverage, I'll probably have to go with Alltel or (maybe) AT&T. I've got more experience with Alltel's phones (that's what basically everyone else in the office uses) and know their coverage is pretty good in my service area; I'm just concerned about finding a device and software that will cover what I need. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth
It all really depends on the geographic location of the source. Rural areas are more costly than Metro, the infrastructure is already there. It sounds to me that the provider has the facility and bandwidth, I would just compare quotes similar to that area. some people can get 10Mbit for $1000.00 a month over Ethernet, others pay $2000 for 6Mbit over Traditional T1's. On 8/6/07, Jory Privett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am looking to upgrade one of my PoPs with some more bandwidth. I have > pricing from a reputable provider to deliver a 10M wireless link with a > SLA. > They support BGP, have plenty of bandwidth to supply, and will supply all > the equipment for the link on a two year ontract. I am wondering what > other > people might be paying for a service like this? > > Jory Privett > WCCS > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I'd think a Sprint PocketPC device would be the way to go, but I haven't tried it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around "pager" for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 2003 Server/Slipstream/SP2/Product Key -Please help
I hope that someone here can shed a bit of light on a problem I have searched high and low for a solution to. I have a server in my data center, new Intel S5000vs Dual Xeon board. This board has no floppy controller. To install an f6 raid driver I have to attach a USB floppy. Install starts great, on second reboot, Windows takes control of the board resources. It decides the USB floppy isn't really there (Windows doesn't have native drivers for it but the board bios recognizes it), thus when it needs the f6 Raid drivers, it can't get then, thus doesn't install. I have tried numerus USB driver on the first floppy trick, doesn't work. Then I decide to slipstream the drivers into the Windows 2003 install. While I'm at it I decide to slipstream SP2 to save myself some time. Install goes great until it asks for product key. My windows 2003 VOL Key won't work because its now SP2... ok, my bad. I redo a slipstream CD so that it just has drivers, no service packs. the install blue screens. After going through 12 or so cd's thinking I must be installing the wrong raid drivers, to no avail. (they all blue screen) I decide to add just the raid drivers and SP1 to my slipstream. Install goes great, except that now it still won't accept my Product Key, I assume its because of SP1. So now, I have to slipstream the drivers, thats fine, but the drivers for some reason need at least SP1 to install correct, but the Product Key doesn't work if I have a Service pack installed. I think I'm burnt out at this point, so if anyone has any idea besides arguing on the phone with a Microsoft tech support that can't speak a lick of correct English (already been there for 2 hours) PLEASE throw a dog a bone. There has to be something I haven't tried. Zack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul....
5.4 or even 5.3 should be good. Depending on how long of a run it is. How long do you have to go? How fast? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Luke Pack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul I was wondering of anyone had any advise as to what type of radio to get 100+mb throughput with high reliability. This would be an upgrade to a backbone. I have read up on some of the 60Ghz but the one I found was well over 10Gs (not happening). One important thing is that I have to stay out of the 5.7 range (this tower has that covered.) and there lies the trouble. I am, so far, looking at some 5.4s but If anyone has any advise, I would appreciate it. Regards, LP WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
John Valenti wrote: This is totally in the other direction of having a full keyboard, but you might look at the Nokia 770 and 800. The 770's are on discount now, for about $150. Someone showed me theirs last week. It is more geared toward Wi-Fi connections, but would connect to the net thru bluetooth to your cellphone. I just bought one to tinker with a couple weeks ago, actually. I've already done the loopback ssh thing to get root, and enabled red-pill mode, the mere name of which gives me fits of giggles. Who wouldn't want a Debian box in their pocket? :) It might work, but it's not quite as simple as what I really really want. I intend, eventually, for this hypothetical gadget to be passed around every week between techs. This means I'd have to buy three new phones, all with Bluetooth support and data plans (to use for tethering to the 770), which is likely to cost quite a bit more, long-term. Either that, or I buy one phone for tethering, but then whoever's on call that week has to keep track of three gadgets - a personal phone, the Bluetooth phone, and the 770 - which starts getting annoying and cumbersome again. If this mythical device is too big to fit in a pants pocket, it will get left at home, where it doesn't do anyone any good. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
David, This is totally in the other direction of having a full keyboard, but you might look at the Nokia 770 and 800. The 770's are on discount now, for about $150. Someone showed me theirs last week. It is more geared toward Wi-Fi connections, but would connect to the net thru bluetooth to your cellphone. Seemed like a reasonable web browser for something that fits in your pocket. And it runs linux, so ssh is there. I was able to connect to a StarOS AP in less than a minute. I'm hoping ssh can be configured with some macros, plus practice should improve on time. 800x480 screen, I might new glasses. On August 6, at 3:58 PM August 6, David E. Smith wrote: My intent was to imply that "full QWERTY keyboard" good, "standard phone keypad with only twelve or so buttons" bad. Just for playing, I did play with midpssh on my cell phone; took me about two minutes to enter my normal shell password. It's do-able, but I'd have to be really desperate to ever do it again. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Matt Liotta wrote: What do you call a Blackberry and Motorola Q other than a cell phone? Well, if you want to poke at semantics... ;) My intent was to imply that "full QWERTY keyboard" good, "standard phone keypad with only twelve or so buttons" bad. Just for playing, I did play with midpssh on my cell phone; took me about two minutes to enter my normal shell password. It's do-able, but I'd have to be really desperate to ever do it again. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Matt Liotta wrote: Again, I think a web-based system would be better. For example, you could on the cheap write a PHP script to SSH into something and reboot it all while presenting a web interface to your mobile. Safe and effective! That implies my ability to write a PHP script with "click here to reboot" will result in something safe. I'm not sure I trust me that much. Just think of what happens if it's a clickable link and I screw up a password check somewhere and Google starts spidering that page... :) Just an hour ago, as I was composing the original email in this thread, I discovered that you can use starutil to remotely reboot a tower; I may create one of those regardless, on the "it's cool" principle. It doesn't eliminate my need for a decent SSH client (to, at least, SSH into a Linux shell server, from which I can telnet into all those old Trangos I still have, for which there isn't an easy remote-reboot option). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
JohnnyO wrote: I've used my Cingular 8125 to do SSH and Web based management I have not looked into what upgrades they have for this but it's been nice at times. What SSH client are you using? (And does the keyboard actually have a Ctrl key?) It's likely I'll still be stuck with a Blackberry because of cell coverage, sadly. (Around here, the best coverage by far is Alltel, who recently bought out local company First Cellular; AT&T/Cingular has, by most accounts, pretty iffy coverage. And Alltel is all about the Blackberry. Either that or the Moto Q.) I'll look into that one, though. Thanks for the reassurance that my idea isn't totally nuts. :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Butch, why not the Blackjack? Does it have issues or is it more limited than the others? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David E. Smith wrote: >I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some >basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. >Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. I'd suggest an IPAQ or similar type palmtop pc. I know that Cingular and others sell these devices. Many of these have 802.11(a/b/g) capability as well, so you can use that where available. Don't get the Blackjack, though. Putty has a windows mobile version that works well enough. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
David E. Smith wrote: It's not so much a "network management system" as it is "a six-year-old copy of WhatsUp Gold." That might be worth looking into then. The most complicated thing I'm likely to try with one is rebooting it, but even that requires logging into something via SSH (either the unit itself, or some other system somewhere so you can reboot it via starutil). Again, I think a web-based system would be better. For example, you could on the cheap write a PHP script to SSH into something and reboot it all while presenting a web interface to your mobile. Safe and effective! -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
John Scrivner wrote: We are not looking at a cell phone. We are looking for a device with a very small keyboard as you can see by his request... Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. What do you call a Blackberry and Motorola Q other than a cell phone? -Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I've used my Cingular 8125 to do SSH and Web based management I have not looked into what upgrades they have for this but it's been nice at times. It has a nicer keyboard then any of the Crackberries i've seen. JohnnyO - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Matt Liotta wrote: If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to have a typo on something important. It's not so much a "network management system" as it is "a six-year-old copy of WhatsUp Gold." The most complicated thing I'm likely to try with one is rebooting it, but even that requires logging into something via SSH (either the unit itself, or some other system somewhere so you can reboot it via starutil). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, David E. Smith wrote: I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. I'd suggest an IPAQ or similar type palmtop pc. I know that Cingular and others sell these devices. Many of these have 802.11(a/b/g) capability as well, so you can use that where available. Don't get the Blackjack, though. Putty has a windows mobile version that works well enough. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Bandwidth
I am looking to upgrade one of my PoPs with some more bandwidth. I have pricing from a reputable provider to deliver a 10M wireless link with a SLA. They support BGP, have plenty of bandwidth to supply, and will supply all the equipment for the link on a two year ontract. I am wondering what other people might be paying for a service like this? Jory Privett WCCS WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 60Ghz backhaul....
I was wondering of anyone had any advise as to what type of radio to get 100+mb throughput with high reliability. This would be an upgrade to a backbone. I have read up on some of the 60Ghz but the one I found was well over 10Gs (not happening). One important thing is that I have to stay out of the 5.7 range (this tower has that covered.) and there lies the trouble. I am, so far, looking at some 5.4s but If anyone has any advise, I would appreciate it. Regards, LP WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Matt Liotta wrote: If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to have a typo on something important. It's not so much a "network management system" as it is "a six-year-old copy of WhatsUp Gold." The most complicated thing I'm likely to try with one is rebooting it, but even that requires logging into something via SSH (either the unit itself, or some other system somewhere so you can reboot it via starutil). David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Matt Liotta wrote: If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to have a typo on something important. -Matt We are not looking at a cell phone. We are looking for a device with a very small keyboard as you can see by his request... Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
If your entire network is managed via a web-based OSS then any cell phone with a decent browser should do what you need. I can't imagine wanting to do SSH via a cell phone. That seems like a sure fire way to have a typo on something important. -Matt David E. Smith wrote: I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around "pager" for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around "pager" for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Cable
I agree the oozing gel can be a mess, but it should be nonconductive and have no adverse effects to an Ethernet port. Years ago I found an eight port Netgear switch nearly flooded with the oozed gel mess. Didn't seem to affect it in the least. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cable Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com) He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for ArcWireless type. (sometimes he has it with Gel) We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well. On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We found it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations. Basically we predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer life without maintenance using non-gel filled. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: [WISPA] Cable >I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e >cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great >luck with it. > > Now, it appears this cable is no longer available. I'm looking for a > replacement. > > While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded > version. > > Any recommendations? I'm running out of cable here! > > > -- > Blair Davis > > AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 > > West Michigan Wireless ISP > 269-686-8648 > > A division of: > Camp Communication Services, INC > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: > 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ?
Why would you expect an answering service to do tech suport? Isn't it out of their league to handle anythng more than taking a name number and message? The problem I see with hotspot tech support, is the cost should be much higher than the hotspot internet service costs. A per incident price makes more sense to me. George Smith, Rick wrote: I've asked this question before, never really got a response. Figured I'd try again. I run a number of hotspots, and need to provide 24x7 support for the users at them. Generally means asking the stupid questions like "is your wireless adapter turned on / cable plugged in", etc I use an answering service now, and they're just not cutting it. They have been given a Q&A sheet by me, with prescribed answers, and then if none of those answers / procedures work, they're to patch me or my tech support person in to the call so we can take it from there. Well, they're telling customers "Sorry, support dept is closed, let me patch you through to someone else" all the time. They're now being fired ASAP. Need someone to replace them. These calls don't last long, and it's not too involved a process to support customers at a hotspot. Does anyone subscribe (or offer) such a service ? Needs to be courteous people with knowledge on the other end on supporting stuff like this. And, it NEEDS to be 24x7x365 staffed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cable
Definately call Shireen, (www.allrfcables.com) He stocks the non-gel cable that is a replacement/equivelent for ArcWireless type. (sometimes he has it with Gel) We use it for most of our outdoor installs, its been working well. On a side note, as policy we now prefer to select non-Gell Filled. We found it unnecessary (If actually not burying cable in ground), because the gel usually just ended up oosing out over time causing failure of Ethernet connectors, or a mess dripping inside premise at terminations. Basically we predict that radio solutions without gel-filled would end up with a longer life without maintenance using non-gel filled. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: [WISPA] Cable I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great luck with it. Now, it appears this cable is no longer available. I'm looking for a replacement. While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded version. Any recommendations? I'm running out of cable here! -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.6/938 - Release Date: 8/5/2007 4:16 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: [Wisp] TV Whitespace Devices not ready for prime time
Any manufacturers care to clue us in on why Dell et. al. are the only one's submitting devices? We'd like to see this band NOT be used for personal portable devices anyway. Alvarion, Motorola, Atheros, where are you guys? Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "Kristopher Twomey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Principal WISPA Member List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: [Wisp] TV Whitespace Devices not ready for prime time Lost among all the hoopla about the 700 Mhz auction news, another issue that's probably more important to WISPs in the long run was addressed on Friday. After the FCC released its proposed rules for TV whitespace, the FCC asked manufacturers to provide devices for testing to the FCC lab. The FCC released the results of the two devices and they were not impressed. The lab found the devices to be too prone to causing interference. These were just the first prototypes and were bound to be weak. Now that manufacturers have a better idea of what the FCC is looking for, they can go back to the drawing board and try again. Comments are due on the notice by August 15th with reply comments due August 27th. Wouldn't be a bad idea for a few of you to file comments and let the FCC know that just because these devices didn't work, the commission should resist any pressure to delay the opening of this spectrum and work with manufacturers to create a market of compliant devices. Also, the prototypes were created by a consortium of Dell, Google, HP, Intel, Microsoft and Philips. Are any WISPA vendors working on TV whitespace gear? If not, any idea why not? I'm just a dumb lawyer but this seems like a potentially large market for Alvarion, Trango, Motorola and everybody else. Here's the link to the public notice: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-07-3457A1.pdf Here's the link to the report with all the technical details: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-275666A1.pdf Kris -- __ Kristopher E. Twomey Telecom/Internet Law & Regulatory Consulting www.lokt.net ___ WISP mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wisp WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cable
I have been using an outdoor, shielded, flooded, with drain wire cat5e cable from Arc Wireless/Winncom for all my outdoor work and have had great luck with it. Now, it appears this cable is no longer available. I'm looking for a replacement. While I'd prefer the same cable, I'd be able to live with a non-flooded version. Any recommendations? I'm running out of cable here! -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ?
Rick, Give Mike Kasprzk (pronounced - Casperzak) a call. He does hotspots at hotels and has a company that takes on the phone support for them. He is located in Buffalo New York and he is a good guy. Mike Kasprzyk Thinwires, LLC Phone: 1.866.736.6851 Web: http://www.thinwires.com/ Mac > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Smith, Rick > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ? > > I've asked this question before, never really got a > response. Figured I'd try again. > > I run a number of hotspots, and need to provide > 24x7 support for the users at them. Generally means > asking the stupid questions like "is your wireless > adapter turned on / cable plugged in", etc > > I use an answering service now, and they're just not > cutting it. They have been given a Q&A sheet by me, > with prescribed answers, and then if none of those > answers / procedures work, they're to patch me or my > tech support person in to the call so we can take it > from there. > > Well, they're telling customers "Sorry, support dept > is closed, let me patch you through to someone else" > all the time. They're now being fired ASAP. > > Need someone to replace them. These calls don't last > long, and it's not too involved a process to support > customers at a hotspot. > > Does anyone subscribe (or offer) such a service ? > > Needs to be courteous people with knowledge on the > other end on supporting stuff like this. And, it > NEEDS to be 24x7x365 staffed. > --- > - > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > --- > - > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: > 8/4/2007 2:42 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ?
I've asked this question before, never really got a response. Figured I'd try again. I run a number of hotspots, and need to provide 24x7 support for the users at them. Generally means asking the stupid questions like "is your wireless adapter turned on / cable plugged in", etc I use an answering service now, and they're just not cutting it. They have been given a Q&A sheet by me, with prescribed answers, and then if none of those answers / procedures work, they're to patch me or my tech support person in to the call so we can take it from there. Well, they're telling customers "Sorry, support dept is closed, let me patch you through to someone else" all the time. They're now being fired ASAP. Need someone to replace them. These calls don't last long, and it's not too involved a process to support customers at a hotspot. Does anyone subscribe (or offer) such a service ? Needs to be courteous people with knowledge on the other end on supporting stuff like this. And, it NEEDS to be 24x7x365 staffed. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/