Re: [WISPA] Strategies For Finding Bandwidth
That seems reasonable I am looking for Bandwith in Billings MT _ /-\ Andrew Sent from my phone On Nov 7, 2011 9:33 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: > I think if you want interested parties to reply to you, you should at > least disclose the State & City where you are looking for service. > > Regards. > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet& Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, Fl 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net > > > On 11/7/2011 11:22 AM, Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > > How do I go about finding a bandwidth provider? I have been tasked to > > find 100Megs of Internet and have exhausted all the options I know. > > What I have done so far is contact other ISP's in the area and asked > > them if they can get me Internet. So far everybody has said no because > > they can figure out a way to deliver it. > > > > So what I am asking what are some other avenues that I can explore to > > get bandwidth to this location? Generic advise is fine as I may have > > to do this once more for another site. > > > > I am purposely not saying the address on a public list but if that > > will help I can let you know off list. > > > > Thanks, > > _ > > /-\ ndrew > > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Strategies For Finding Bandwidth
How do I go about finding a bandwidth provider? I have been tasked to find 100Megs of Internet and have exhausted all the options I know. What I have done so far is contact other ISP's in the area and asked them if they can get me Internet. So far everybody has said no because they can figure out a way to deliver it. So what I am asking what are some other avenues that I can explore to get bandwidth to this location? Generic advise is fine as I may have to do this once more for another site. I am purposely not saying the address on a public list but if that will help I can let you know off list. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
Hi, On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Matt wrote: >> I can answer more questions if you have them. > > Good info, thanks. If I go with Proxmox can I later switch to > Opennode by simply copying my virtual machines over to Opennode? Is > OpenVZ preferred over KVM for linux applications that do not care > about the shared kernel? > > Initially I am just thinking a dual or quad core socket 1156 processor > with say 8 to 16G of RAM and a few terrabytes of disk in software > RAID1. I am assuming the nice thing about containers is I can easily > move everything down the road to better/faster hardware? > Yes, you can easily switch between the two distros, the back end tech (KVM and OpenVZ) is the same for them both. So moving can be a simple rysnc and some minor tweaks. Proxmox will not support software RAID, the community as a whole seems to frown upon it. That does not mean that it will not work but it will take some manual tweaking. OpenNode does not really care what hardware you use and so are forgiving to things like software raid, at least more so than Proxmox. If you make a clustered environment, which is possible with either distro you can migrate the box to another host without any downtime. The host that you move it to can be bigger faster hardware. You can also make a backup of the machine and restore it to newer hardware if a little bit of down time is acceptable. I hope this helps, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Linux Virtualization
I am going to throw my 2 cents in. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Nick W wrote: > I've been experimenting with both the last 2 weeks. I've read that VMWare > will have a 16GB limitation in it's next free version, which is pushing me > to Xen/XenServer. Just ordered parts for iSCSI SAN. > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: >> >> Xen and Vmware are pretty good. I would not suggest using a Linux distro >> and would go with a bare metal (vsphere, xen's alternative) >> FOSS virt stuff has come a long way since I first started using it 5 years ago. There a couple FOSS projects that I recommend to try out. The first and most mature is called Proxmox VE (http://www.proxmox.com/products/proxmox-ve) it is a bare metal Linux distribution that can be installed on most any server supporting Intel or AMD virtualzation instructions (most do). Proxmox is a Debian based distro so anything you can do with Debian can be done with Proxmox. This has lead to some cool things in terms of HA and replication that the community has built. The Proxmox feature set is not to bad, it is no Vmware enterprise plus but does the job. It is in active development has a nice easy to use web interface and supports clustering. Future releases (like the upcoming 2.0 release) will include things like HA out of the box. The second project is called OpenNode (http://opennode.activesys.org/) is similar to Proxmox in a few ways. OpenNode like Proxmox can do both OpenVZ and KVM. It is a CentOS based hypervisor and can be clustered. It is younger that Proxmox and the out of the box feature set is less. I however like how easy it is to customize and script various common tasks. It follows the standard way of doing things in Linux better than Proxmox does (IMHO) and is also lighter weight, I install the OS on flash based disks so space is a premium for me. It also will allow you to take a generic CentOS install and convert it to a OpenNode member easily. Both can use iSCSI or other type of shared storage for VM's, I have had great success with using iSCSI with both distributions, NFS not as much but that was do to some implementation stuff. As with anything I recommend you test stuff out and see what fits your environment best. That being said either of those projects will get you up and running fast with a minimal learning curve. I can answer more questions if you have them. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OpenSource Email Server platform
The two that I would look at would be qmailtoaster.com or zimbra.com They are both open source and run on Linux and both work really well without much headache. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote: > Since we began in '98 we've been using the same windows based email server > MailMax. Because of some support/productivity issues we are investigating > integrating a new box. The requirements are: webmail, web management of > individuals mail accounts (with password reset), pop3/smtp/imap, can run on > Windows or Linux. We would also like a calendar and address book module in > webmail as well. > > Anyone have suggestions? > > Thanks, > Patrick Nix, Jr., > Computer Network Solutions > CSWEB.NET Internet Services > IT Manager > http://www.cnetworksolutions.com > http://www.csweb.net > (918) 235-0414 > > > Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and > privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify > the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any > copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than > the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
Can you describe your setup a little more. Like what you are using for software and stuff? I too have a project where this may be useful. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:29 AM, Jayson Baker wrote: > Tonight we spent a few more hours on this project. > > We're now streaming live satellite TV programming via multicast over our > network. > Unencrypted, and only MPEG 2 for now. > > The stream is about 6Mbps. It's going over a wireless backhaul, and into a > UBNT AirMax system. > It's being received over the AirMax system, but not being decoded properly. > > Not sure if it's the AirMax, or this laptop that's the issue. Leaning > towards the laptop. > When on the same network as the streambox the feed looks great, time-shift > works perfect. > > We're using a PIII 933MHz machine with 1GB of RAM. It was "laying around" > > I will investigate more soon as to why it's not working via the AirMax. > I'll also try to get the MPEG 4 codec situated on the encoder. > > I did find out from Amino that their STB's should work without 3rd party > middleware. > Basically, they have embedded browsers--point to your HTML server, which has > pages to streams. > > You could fashion up your own guide and program info, etc. > This would work especially well if you're not broadcasting networks with > requirements, but just OTA. > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Mike Hammett > wrote: > >> So we're looking at $25k for the hardware to do an MPEG-4 H.264 IPTV system >> for up to 100 channels? >> >> Remaining items needed (or desired): >> >> 1) Middleware (Minerva) >> 2) Licensing (only your past seems to indicate that this can be done) >> 3) VoD >> 4) Content stream from Avail or Echostar >> >> Missing anything? >> >> Costs for the others? >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -- >> From: "Jayson Baker" >> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 12:20 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it? >> >> > Interestingly enough, I've had a project lying on my desk for a couple >> > weeks >> > now which requires streaming live content to a large group of people in a >> > neighborhood (think of it as a neighborhood association wanting to >> > broadcast >> > their meetings to their residents). I don't know why I didn't see the >> > similarity between this post and that project. >> > >> > I just spent the last couple hours working on this, and now have a Linux >> > server streaming the content out over the wireless network multicast >> > without >> > any issues. >> > >> > Taking a deeper look... >> > We have ASI-input cards from Linear Systems. They take 4 ASI streams... >> > maybe 32 each? I can't remember. >> > >> > A quick look on eBay found some Moto C-Band receivers that output 32 ASI >> > streams for under $1000. >> > >> > An entire receiving, encoding, streaming headend for under 100 channels >> > could be built for probably under $25,000. >> > >> > I don't know what you're after, but if there is some serious interest in >> > putting effort into something like this, we might be on board. >> > >> > Jayson >> > >> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jack Unger wrote: >> > >> >> Blake, >> >> >> >> In general the IPTV principles being discussed would apply to any >> >> broadband wireless system either license-free, licensed, or >> >> licensed-lite. >> >> >> >> jack >> >> >> >> >> >> Blake Covarrubias wrote: >> >> > I've read the responses from others who are running IPTV over >> wireless. >> >> > >> >> > My question is when you all are saying wireless, do you mean >> unlicensed >> >> 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz, or do you mean wireless technology in general? >> >> > >> >> > My company utilizes 2.5 and 3.65ghz, which are the same frequencies >> >> > we'd >> >> be looking to use to deploy IPTV. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Blake Covarrubias >> >> > >> >> > On Nov 15, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Every time this comes up, I say the same thing. You can't over >> >> wireless. >> >> >> The content owners WILL NOT license it for wireless use. I've tried >> >> >> numerous times >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >> >> Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" >> >> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 >> >> www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com >> >> >> >> Sent from my Pizzicato PluckString... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> ---
Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions
Why not just by a switch? Switches have no NAT and are cheap. Slap up a cheap AP an you have your solution however it is not all in one. On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Something like 80% of the time I've been to a network had Linksys, it's been > broken. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Robert West" > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:08 PM > To: "'WISPA General List'" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions > >> Not with multiple lan and at 50 bucks. >> >> Why not Linksys? You can always put third party firmware on it if you >> want. >> I use DD-WRT on them when I have use one. I've even taken a few of them >> out >> of the factory case and put them in other boxes with the CPE. At 55 >> bucks, >> they are certainly cheap and with the DD-WRT, they are much more >> configurable. >> >> Robert West >> Just Micro digital Services Inc. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Gino Villarini >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:58 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Router suggestions >> >> Mikrotik? >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 5:36 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: [WISPA] Router suggestions >> >> I'm looking for suggestions on an 802.11 router with multiple LAN ports >> where I can disable the NAT capability... making it a bridge. I used >> to use the TrendNet TEW-452BRP, but it's EOL and the TEW-633GR is too >> expensive ($100). I'm looking for something in the $30 - $45 area. >> >> No Linksys, I don't want to tarnish my name. :-p >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Routerboard Cases
I have the need for an outdoor router. It needs to have two Ethernet ports. I am looking at the RB433 as the router but I need a suggestion for an outdoor case that will work having never used a RB433 before. Any suggestions? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquiti Pico Station 2
Where can I buy these? I have seen some stuff from Ubiquiti that they are shipping but I can't seem to find anybody that carries them. Anybody have any info? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need 18ghz link
I am looking for a good place to get an 18ghz link, where do you guys suggest. Ideally the company would also procure the licence for us. I am thinking I want the Trango APEX because of it cost / performance. So if anybody has suggestions on a good company to use I am all ears! Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Google's email services for ISPs
I don't know if it is because we use the premier edition but POP3 or IMAP is turned on automatically by checking POP3 or IMAP twice in a row. The first time if fails but the second time it succeeds, no logging into the account manually. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:35 AM, David E. Smith wrote: > Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: >> For those who may be using Google's branded services for ISPs can >> someone tell me where to go to find more information and how is it >> working for you. > > If I were starting a new outfit today, I'd probably just let them do all > the hard work, and host all my users' email. Domain names and Web > hosting are dirt-cheap, and if you want to be "just" an Internet access > provider, not doing any hosting and having relatively little > server-room-type infrastructure, it's a good way to save a few bucks. > > For a pre-existing outfit, though, migrating to Google Apps could be > tricky. For us, the one really big stumbling block was the fact that > most of our users use POP3 and something like Outlook Express or > Thunderbird. When last I looked into this, the Google Apps API wouldn't > let you enable POP3 and IMAP automatically. We'd have been forced to > have someone manually log into every mailbox and turn that on. > > (They said it was to force users to accept their TOS, but I can't escape > the feeling that Google wants people to use the Web interface because > that's where the ads are; forcing that initial login gives them a free > shot at showing you the Gmail interface, which admittedly is awfully > attractive.) > > David Smith > MVN.net > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preventing backwards router problems
I am using a Linux box as the router, I am going to add a couple more interfaces to that box and call the problem solved for now. Going forward I will be looking at a topology change to prevent these issues. PPPoE looks like the ticket. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:07 PM, Butch Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Charles Wyble wrote: > >>>- Many APs have client isolation, which keeps traffic from one >>>client going to another. Some switches have this as well. >> >>Wouldn't all switches have this by design and during normal >>operation (various exploits to sniff traffic non withstanding of >>course). > > Charles, > All switches do not, unfortunately, have this capability. The > switches (low end) will stop SOME traffic, but broadcast traffic > (like DHCP DISCOVER) will NOT be stopped by the switch. In fact, if > the switch DID stop this traffic, you'd not be able to do DHCP on a > switched network, which is, of course, possible. > >>>- PPPoE or similar between the customer premise and your network >>>core > > Clint, > I agree that this is probably a best solution, but given the network > he described, I'd approach it in a slightly different way. I can't > recall who initially asked the question that started this thread, > but my initial reaction, given the information you've provided > regarding the network design. > > First, as Clint suggested, you should consider some design changes > that would make the network more reliable AND easier to > troubleshoot. With the network gear you've described, there is no > easy way to create the separation between the APs. His suggestion > to ensure you have client to client comms turned off is the first > step. In order to create separation between the APs, you have one > of 2 quick/easy choices. First, you can configure your switch to > put each of the APs on a unique VLAN, then configure the router on > the trunk port and separate/manage the traffic at the router. This > is going to be the cheapest option IF your switch already supports > VLANs with a trunk port option. > > The second option would be to physically separate the APs by putting > them into different ports on your router (instead of on a switch). > This option, of course, assumes you either already have the spare > ethernet ports, or could add them easier/cheaper than you could do > so with a switch. You never did mention what type of router you > have. Please fill in this detail and we can provide a better/more > complete answer. > > -- > > *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * > *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * > *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * > *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * > *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* > *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preventing backwards router problems
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Charles Wyble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Charles Wyble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: >>> >>>> How to I prevent SOHO routers from handing out bogus DHCP information >>>> when they are plugged in backwards? >>>> >>>> >>> Filter them upstream? >>> >>> >> >> How would I filter upstream? All clients go into a switch so I would >> have to filter at the switch level, what switches provide this? >> > > So what exactly did you mean by plugged in backwards? The WAN port > instead of the LAN port? > Can you explain your architecture a bit? Yes, when I say plugged in backwards I mean that a LAN port is plugged into the WAN cable broadcasting bogus DHCP infomation. Currently the architecture is bridged. There are three access points (Ubquity NS2) that all come down to a switch the switch is then connected the gateway router that is running DHCP. >> >> This was more of a WISP dashboard program. The captive portal stuff >> was secondary the main part of the program was more of an access >> controller. It allowed the admin to control IP's maintain MAC ACL's >> > > Ah. Well check out ZeroShell for this. Its a very cool distro. Also > check out Untangle. > These are closer to what I want however not the original program that I am thinking of. The main feature that I am wanting is something that will allow authorized clients direct access to the internet no clicking "ok" to continue or anything like that. Un-authorized clients should be directed to a captive portal type deal. Thanks _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Preventing backwards router problems
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Charles Wyble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: >> How to I prevent SOHO routers from handing out bogus DHCP information >> when they are plugged in backwards? >> > > Filter them upstream? > How would I filter upstream? All clients go into a switch so I would have to filter at the switch level, what switches provide this? >> Also on a seperate note; long ago on this list there was a Linux >> distro that was basically a WISP management you put it on the gateway >> router and it only allowed MAC authorized clients to the internet >> everybody else was pointed to a captive portal. Does anybody remember >> this or could give me a link to it again? >> > > Chillispot? Wifi-DOG? There are a few of them. > This was more of a WISP dashboard program. The captive portal stuff was secondary the main part of the program was more of an access controller. It allowed the admin to control IP's maintain MAC ACL's Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew > -- > Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 > http://charlesnw.blogspot.com > CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Preventing backwards router problems
How to I prevent SOHO routers from handing out bogus DHCP information when they are plugged in backwards? Also on a seperate note; long ago on this list there was a Linux distro that was basically a WISP management you put it on the gateway router and it only allowed MAC authorized clients to the internet everybody else was pointed to a captive portal. Does anybody remember this or could give me a link to it again? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PHP Speed test
Try this one out. Seems to work well for me. http://www.brandonchecketts.com/open-source-speedtest/ On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Eric Merkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know of a good free/opensource php-based speed test? I > would like something graphical which shows both upload and download > speeds. > > Thanks, > Eric > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Private vs Public addresses for end-users
On Jan 29, 2008 11:52 AM, Bryan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom DeReggi wrote: > > Yes but there are some security concerns with DHCP when sharing wireless > > sectors. To prevent requires tracking MAC addressess, which is one more > > headache to track. Sure if you are doing true 802.11 CPE, no problem, the > > link uses the MAC of the CPE that you already know, but when supporting true > > bridging, it means discovering teh MAC of the customer provided Home Router. > > Any radio worth its salt that does true bridging would also have a > bridging table that is accessible via SNMP or HTML screen scraping. One > of our in-house programs polls all the AP's (we're a Canopy outfit, but > same principles apply to most Ethernet-based gear) and saves the MAC > addresses to a database, where I match the MACs to the subscriber's > radio and back to their account. > > It's usefulness is most apparent when a customer wonders why their > connection is lousy and we can see that they've either got 1) their > radio plugged into a switch instead of a router and we can see all their > computers, or 2) their computer is doing one of those > change-my-mac-every-10-seconds network attack things. > > Our central DHCP server logs which router the requests come from as > well, helping us to narrow down which section of the network to search > in the case that the MAC doesn't show up in any of the radios. So what happens when the customer plugs the radio into the switch and is broadcasting his local DHCP info to everybody? That would really mess up the network. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] For those using IPTrack
I am trying a new install of IPTrack. I have my router all set up and sending NetFlow data (verified by tcpdump and NTOP) however when I try to start IPTrack I get these errors: Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/src/iptrack/iptrack_capture.pl line 198. Use of uninitialized value in pattern match (m//) at /usr/src/iptrack/iptrack_capture.pl line 205. They flood my terminal, I am guessing they happen every time flow data is received. Has anybody else experienced such problems? What did you do to get around them? I tried contacting the developer but have been unsuccessful. The IPTrack host is a CentOS 5 box. I am wondering if the Perl version is causing conflicts. Any help? Or ideas on where to get help? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT......Question
Kismet works better than I could ever get network stumbler to work. More details too... On Dec 10, 2007 1:05 PM, CHUCK PROFITO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please add network stumbler to the list > > Chuck Profito > 209-988-7388 > CV-ACCESS, INC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Providing High Speed Broadband > to Rural Central California > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:57 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question > > > > Adobe Photoshop > Scansoft Paperport > Quickbooks > iTunes (for my iPhone) > Streets and Trips 2008 > Radio Mobile > Quark Xpress > Visio > > thanks, > > Travis > Microserv > > Butch Evans wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Maybe if apple or linux had hundreds of thousands of programs written > >> for it, they would be of benefit or offer a little competition to > >> MicroSoft But when it is barely into the hundreds, it is easy to > >> have it work so easily. > > > > What? There are THOUSANDS of programs for Linux. Do you use > > thousands of programs? Give me a list of the "must have" programs you > > use, I can almost certainly give you a list of programs for Linux that > > will accomplish what you are looking for. > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PowerStation2 Problem
Happens to frequently for it to be the watch dog, but the watchdog is off. On Nov 16, 2007 5:26 PM, Mark Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > watchdog rebooting the device? > > Mark Nash > UnwiredOnline.Net > 350 Holly Street > Junction City, OR 97448 > http://www.uwol.net > 541-998- > 541-998-5599 fax > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Andrew Niemantsverdriet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 4:22 PM > Subject: [WISPA] PowerStation2 Problem > > > > I have a Ubiquiti PowerStaion2 that is having some weird issues. It > > has a -68 signal and good LOS to the AP however there is packet loss > > on the link but only from the Ethernet side of it. From the radio side > > (pinging from the gateway) I see no such loss. The Ethernet drops from > > 10-30 seconds and then continues on like normal, when this happens I > > can still ping from the gateway to the radio IP. This is running as a > > bridge and has ver. 2.9 firmware on it, I upgraded from 2.8 to try to > > fix the problem in a last ditch effort. Any ideas as to what is going > > on? The AP is custom linux box and no other problems like this exist > > on any of the other clients. > > > > Thanks, > > _ > > /-\ ndrew > > > > > > -- > -- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -- > -- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] PowerStation2 Problem
I have a Ubiquiti PowerStaion2 that is having some weird issues. It has a -68 signal and good LOS to the AP however there is packet loss on the link but only from the Ethernet side of it. From the radio side (pinging from the gateway) I see no such loss. The Ethernet drops from 10-30 seconds and then continues on like normal, when this happens I can still ping from the gateway to the radio IP. This is running as a bridge and has ver. 2.9 firmware on it, I upgraded from 2.8 to try to fix the problem in a last ditch effort. Any ideas as to what is going on? The AP is custom linux box and no other problems like this exist on any of the other clients. Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FM Radio and Ethernet
So how do you secure the conduit to the tower legs? Zip ties? On 5/22/07, Scott Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Again, Check your local code before you copy this. No ground is not allowed here, unless somehow you can prove it is a temporary extension cord. Neither is low voltage in same conduit at 120VAC. That said, small changes to Dennis' configuration will make good installation. Run the cat5 in a separate (metallic) pipe (rigid, EMT, Sealtite, whatever you like). Ground the bottom of the pipe. I would leave the top ungrounded, but that is: 1) personal preference (eliminates ground loops). 2) determined by which way gives you the best performance, least interference from the FM. You may want to use cat5e or cat6 as the twist is tighter, thus accepting less interference as well. Run a ground wire with the power. Even for the low current required at the top, I would probably run 14AWG or 12AWG. Lowers the inductance, may allow less noise to be induced on the power leads. Besides, 14AWG is the smallest wire you can run with a 15amp breaker. Same thing with ground loops; I would probably use a plastic box and thus isolate the power ground from the enclosure, tower, etc. One good way to do it is consult a local commercial/industrial electrician. They will know the code for your area. But they don't always understand radio and induced voltages. Dennis Burgess wrote: > We are located at 400 foot on a FM tower, 100,000 watts at the top of > 1400 > foot. > > The total length of CAT 5 is 440 foot or so, and plug directly into a > RB532 > at the top of the tower (power at the top as well) > > We ran a felexable conduit up the tower, inside, 16awg solid copper, one > black, one white, (for the 110), NO GROUND, and also in that same > conduit, > we ran good outdoor, sheilded CAT5, UV Resistant (even though it is fully > enclosed), and we get a 100meg link without issues for the most part! > > One thing we did do, is ensure that we were on the other side of all the > transmission lines running up the tower. > > Dennis > > > > On 5/22/07, Andrew Niemantsverdriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I am co located on a tower with an FM transmitter. The FM station runs >> at 105Mhz. We were running one AP at 10 half duplex to overcome the >> havoc that the FM station created on our ethernet feed. We now need to >> run that link at 100 full duplex to be able to handle the traffic >> coming through it. What are some hints tips tricks to make it work. >> >> The cable run itself is 150' of shielded CAT5. It works fine at 10 H/D >> and it works at 100 F/D most of the time but it will occasionally go >> down and there is some intermittent packet loss on that link. The run >> itself terminates into a managed switch. >> >> If CAT5 won't work, is fiber my next option? How does that work? I >> assume that I need power up the tower as well? Any tips to make that >> happen assuming keeping the existing CAT5 won't work. >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FM Radio and Ethernet
I did run on the other leg opsite of the transmistion line. We are above the FM radio antenna so our CAT5 run passes the back side of at 25,000 watt transmitter. Why the 110v in that conduit? On 5/22/07, Dennis Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are located at 400 foot on a FM tower, 100,000 watts at the top of 1400 foot. The total length of CAT 5 is 440 foot or so, and plug directly into a RB532 at the top of the tower (power at the top as well) We ran a felexable conduit up the tower, inside, 16awg solid copper, one black, one white, (for the 110), NO GROUND, and also in that same conduit, we ran good outdoor, sheilded CAT5, UV Resistant (even though it is fully enclosed), and we get a 100meg link without issues for the most part! One thing we did do, is ensure that we were on the other side of all the transmission lines running up the tower. Dennis On 5/22/07, Andrew Niemantsverdriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am co located on a tower with an FM transmitter. The FM station runs > at 105Mhz. We were running one AP at 10 half duplex to overcome the > havoc that the FM station created on our ethernet feed. We now need to > run that link at 100 full duplex to be able to handle the traffic > coming through it. What are some hints tips tricks to make it work. > > The cable run itself is 150' of shielded CAT5. It works fine at 10 H/D > and it works at 100 F/D most of the time but it will occasionally go > down and there is some intermittent packet loss on that link. The run > itself terminates into a managed switch. > > If CAT5 won't work, is fiber my next option? How does that work? I > assume that I need power up the tower as well? Any tips to make that > happen assuming keeping the existing CAT5 won't work. > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FM Radio and Ethernet
I am co located on a tower with an FM transmitter. The FM station runs at 105Mhz. We were running one AP at 10 half duplex to overcome the havoc that the FM station created on our ethernet feed. We now need to run that link at 100 full duplex to be able to handle the traffic coming through it. What are some hints tips tricks to make it work. The cable run itself is 150' of shielded CAT5. It works fine at 10 H/D and it works at 100 F/D most of the time but it will occasionally go down and there is some intermittent packet loss on that link. The run itself terminates into a managed switch. If CAT5 won't work, is fiber my next option? How does that work? I assume that I need power up the tower as well? Any tips to make that happen assuming keeping the existing CAT5 won't work. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio choices
I too would like to see the wilibox interface. On 4/30/07, Mark McElvy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you happen to have a way to look at the Wilibox interface? Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harold Bledsoe Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Radio choices We have a new unit out this week that is based on Wilibox software. It can do everything you want except PPPoE. Can you do PPPoE concentration further upstream or put a wired box at the site for this function? Virtual AP, Hotspot, WPA/2 PSK and Radius, etc. are all options for the AP platform otherwise. -Hal Harold Bledsoe Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x205 (office) 404.693.0660 (cell) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Radio choices I am getting ready to expand my network by adding a couple of new towers. The decision I am trying to make is what equipment to buy. My plan was to use Mikrotik for a BH/AP, but with all the certification talk, I am looking in different directions. I am looking for the following features. PPPoE at the AP Virtual AP Hotspot These are the basics. I run my clients with PPPoe and have a virtualAP setup as a hotspot to catch people passing through. Any one know of certified equipment that is as flexible as Mikrotik? Have looked at Deliberant but don't know if it can do the VAP and hotspot. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Switch that will surrive outdoors
Thanks Travis and David, Those look like they will do the trick and at $13 +shipping can't beat the price! On 4/23/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FS105 Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > Model Number?? > > On 4/23/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Netgear 5 port. I've had several in boxes for 2-3 years with temps from >> -30F to 100F. >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: >> > I am in need of a switch that can live outdoors in an enclosure. It >> > needs to be small (5 ports) and cheap as the customer dose not want to >> > any more that he has to. It also needs to surrive the hot and cold >> > temps that it will experiance. Any reccomendations? >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Switch that will surrive outdoors
Model Number?? On 4/23/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Netgear 5 port. I've had several in boxes for 2-3 years with temps from -30F to 100F. Travis Microserv Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > I am in need of a switch that can live outdoors in an enclosure. It > needs to be small (5 ports) and cheap as the customer dose not want to > any more that he has to. It also needs to surrive the hot and cold > temps that it will experiance. Any reccomendations? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Switch that will surrive outdoors
I am in need of a switch that can live outdoors in an enclosure. It needs to be small (5 ports) and cheap as the customer dose not want to any more that he has to. It also needs to surrive the hot and cold temps that it will experiance. Any reccomendations? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 900
I have gotten a 2.9Megs out of mine, the signal level was -61 and I am in a moderately quiet noise floor. On 4/13/07, Don Annas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We are seeing 2.2mb of actual throughput. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Trango 900 What is the non-vendor speak, actual production max throughput on a Trango 900 Mhz AP? Thanks Chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:58 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS
I would be insterested as well On 3/17/07, Anthony Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would be interested in learning more about it. Anthony Broadband Corp. Russ Kreigh wrote: > Yeah, it's completely possible, and will work well, at least once, until > the batteries are gone and need to be recharged. > > The issue is the duty-cycle of the charger, your going from a 14ah to 100ah > charge load, the charger has to run 7-times as long to fully charge the > batteries, this may work fine with some higher end UPS, and some it might > burn up the charger. > > Another thing to make note of, is that most UPS systems run an internal 24V > system, and not a 12V system, so be SURE which one you're dealing with > before you start any modifications. > > We're in process of developing our own remote-site power solution. > Everything we've found is either too big physically, requiring expensive > outdoor enclosures, or doesn't have the run-time we desire, or is too > expensive. > > I think we've got the basic design down, we're adding things like a local > power input option, so that in a long extended outage we can drop the > generator off to charge the batteries and run the system, and when the > utility power is restored, it will switch back automatically. > > We're also looking into a direct 12v input from a vehicle cigarette lighter > output, or additional external batteries. > > Would anyone have any interest in this when we get it complete? > > Thanks, > > Russ Kreigh > Network Engineer > OnlyInternet.Net > Supernova Technologies > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of paul hendry > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wireless@wispa.org > Subject: RE: [WISPA] External battery on UPS > > Scott, > > Surely it should be possible to replace 2 12v 7ah batteries run in > parallel (not series) with 1 12v 100ah battery as the voltage isn't > changing? With regards runtime I can just increase the external battery > count. > > Mac, don't worry I have no intention of putting my tongue on these > things to see if they charged ;) > > Cheers, > > P. > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 02 March 2007 12:22 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS > > The charger is designed for the size and number of batteries in the > original configuration. Changing the quantity and/or type of battery > risks damaging either the charger or the batteries. > > Also, runtime is determined by the batteries, so changing them changes > the runtime. > > paul hendry wrote: > >> Is anyone using external batteries on the larger APC UPS's? I've got >> > an > >> old Smart-UPS 3000 RM that has 8 x 12v batteries in it. The thing is >> they are wired in a bit of a strange config. It looks to me like they >> are split into 4 sets of 2 batteries running in series then 2 of those >> > > >> sets are cabled to the same connector inside the UPS and so there are >> > 2 > >> connectors with 4 batteries hanging of each. >> >> Is there any reason I can't run 2 x 2 (in series) 12v 100ah batteries >> instead of the original 8? I don't seem to be able to and don't really >> > > >> want to get another 4 batteries just to discover I can do it with 4. >> >> Cheers, >> >> P. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > On > >> Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists >> Sent: 16 November 2006 16:45 >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS >> >> I replaced the two internal batteries last night with two external, >> > $100 > >> batteries, and put a load on the UPS that matched the highest load I >> have >> out in the field (80w). It took 2 Tranzeo APs, an Xpeed SDSL modem, >> > and > >> a >> 19" TV on the QVC to load it up properly. Now instead of 1 hour I get >> > > >> 13 >> hours. Bigger, better batteries should net me more time than this. >> > My > >> goal >> is bang for buck at this stage in my business...more run time for a >> sensible >> price. >> >> One cool thing about this setup is that I can rig it up to be able to >> simply >> take new batteries out to a site when they are getting low, instead of >> > > >> the >> generator. I can keep some spare batteries charged up and ready to >> > go. > >> It's a whole lot cheaper and easier than purchasing multiple QUALITY >> 1000w >> generators and putting large custom tanks on them. That is if your >> > UPS > >> is >> not on the top of a water tower or something. ;) >> >> Mark Nash >> Network Engineer >> UnwiredOnline.Net >> 350 Holly Street >> Junction City, OR 97448 >> http://www.uwol.net >> 541-998- >> 541-998-5599 fax >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" >> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] External battery on UPS >> >> >> >> >>> I'm pasting Gino's link to the right threa
[WISPA] LiteStation5
Has anybody used these? Do they work well? Are they stable? Can they do 5.3GHz or just 5.8GHz? Just wondering how they work. Thanks Andrew -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity
those will do nicely! I order a few of them to try out before I put in a big order thanks! On 3/7/07, wispa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:25:06 -0700, Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote Do you want wireless routers? http://3btech.net/chwl80wirofo.html I have been installing these galore, they're FCC certified, and for a cheap consumer router, have the quick setup, and nice set of access control features that work real well for a customer side install. If for some reason the link doesn't work, the part number is wlb-2203. Tehy're 802.11b only, but that's sufficient for internet use. Range is excellent, and I've had no failures yet, no lockups and no crashes that I know of. And at $18 each including shipping, they beat linkcrap and netcrap completely. I've had more issues with failing netgears and buggy linksys than with ANYTHING else. > I am needing to order some customer routers in quanity. I have been > using the linksys wrt54gc and really like them. Do you guys have > suggestions of vendors to use? > > Thanks, > _ > /-\ ndrew > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains 541-969-8200 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Place to purchase routers in quanity
I am needing to order some customer routers in quanity. I have been using the linksys wrt54gc and really like them. Do you guys have suggestions of vendors to use? Thanks, _ /-\ ndrew -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Signal Propagation through Vinyl??
Good that is what I was hopeing to hear. Thanks Jack, _ /-\ ndrew On 2/23/07, Jack Unger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're right to try it; that will provide the information that you need. Most likely, the losses will be fairly low. jack -Original Message----- >From: Andrew Niemantsverdriet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Feb 23, 2007 10:46 AM >To: wireless@wispa.org >Subject: [WISPA] Signal Propagation through Vinyl?? > >We are putting together a bid to serve some small kiosk type >buildings. The don't want the antenna on the outside of building. >Instead they would like to put the antenna under it's false roof. The >roof is made of fairly thin vinyl material. Has anybody had any >experience with what a 5.8Ghz signal will do through that? We have >setup a time to test next week but if it is not going to work I don't >even want to waste time writing up a proposal. The sites are all over >town so there will be some long shots that will not work if there is >much signal loss. >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Signal Propagation through Vinyl??
We are putting together a bid to serve some small kiosk type buildings. The don't want the antenna on the outside of building. Instead they would like to put the antenna under it's false roof. The roof is made of fairly thin vinyl material. Has anybody had any experience with what a 5.8Ghz signal will do through that? We have setup a time to test next week but if it is not going to work I don't even want to waste time writing up a proposal. The sites are all over town so there will be some long shots that will not work if there is much signal loss. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Suggestions
Thanks for the reply Don, To answer your questions: 1. We are looking at offering service to mostly residential customers but some small business users have expressed interest. I doubt we will do any of our large business customers until we get everything working. 2. The regions that I am looking at are: 406 628 and then the Billings MT region, these two initially 3. No pricing models yet but judging by competitors $20-$40 / month for residential is the going rate. This is an all you can eat type plan. We are hoping to fall in the middle at $30/month but that is all subject to change. I do have some experience with Asterisk (we also build PBX's for business) but I am not sure that is what I want. It seems hard to scale. We have not purchased anything yet in terms of hardware. We do have some parts and pieces laying around as replacement parts for any of our installed PBX's but most of those are just Digium TDM400p with FXO modules but I don't think 4 phone lines is going to get us very far :) So ideally I want something that can sit in our NOC and do the job, but outsourcing might be the best choice for ease of maintenance. I can control the traffic all the way to our NOC so I can ensure good QoS at least to there. Our NOC is located at a Tier 2 provider. We have tried to partner with them but they said they won't be ready until this summer. A year ago they said it would be summer 2006. So basically I am not holding my breath. On 2/19/07, Don Annas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A few thoughts... :-) If you are going to roll it out on your own, there are open source products that is the easiest way to get started and will realistically handle your first 300-500 users (depending on call ratios). This is a good entry point for an ISP that is focusing on residential accounts. As you scale, using a true proxy (open source such as SER or a commercial product) will be needed. Depending on what you have budgeted to kick off your voip project, your time may be worth skipping the opensource route and looking to outsource or purchase a canned solution. Keep in mind that if you start this yourself, you need to make sure that VoIP is going to be a major piece of your business. If you think the FCC filing for a WISP is a pain, wait until you see what the FCC throws you as an interconnected VoIP provider. Additionally, you must make provisions for e911 services, and negotiate origination/termination agreements if you are not going to be facilities based. When we started a little over two years ago, the tier 1 vendors wouldn't even pay attention to us until we passed the 4 million minute per month mark. I have seen many startup ITSPs that spent way too much time negotiating fractions of a cent on origination/termination costs while neglecting things that mattered more at that point. It is important that you utilize the highest quality routes you have available. Saving a half a cent a minute doesn't mean that much to a VoIP provider if your minutes are not that great to begin with. If you are not facilities based, and you cannot work directly with a Teir 1 provider, make sure you understand how the traffic is routed once it hits your provider. A simple traceroute to a providers proxy means nothing. Focus on quality termination for your clients, once your volume is up, negotiate further discounts. When it comes to termination/origination, you get what you pay for as a startup bidding the business out to the lowest cost per minute provider. A few questions for you: - Are you looking to roll VoIP out to residential or business clients - What regions are you looking to offer VoIP in. If you have the NPA-NXX it would be helpful - What equipment (if any) have you already purchased for this project - Have you put together any pricing models are do you have an idea what your local market will accept? _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TriadTelecom.com _ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Niemantsverdriet Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] VOIP Suggestions We are looking to start offering VOIP to our customers. What are your suggestions to get started? Roll our own? Resell somebody elses? Also what things should I avoid, or common mistakes? Thanks for any advice you can give. _ /-\ ndrew -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.2/692 - Release Date: 2/18/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.2/692 - Release Date: 2/18/2007 -- WISPA Wireless
[WISPA] VOIP Suggestions
We are looking to start offering VOIP to our customers. What are your suggestions to get started? Roll our own? Resell somebody elses? Also what things should I avoid, or common mistakes? Thanks for any advice you can give. _ /-\ ndrew -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps
How are you guys tracking usage? What program are you using to measure it and are you measureing every bit or an average? On 12/22/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have not had the guts to do what Marlon does. But that doesn't mean there isn't merit in his method. Part of the reason is we put in place technology that allows the use of available bandwdith with limited impact to other users, therefore taking away some of the need to charge for it, if it was jsut going unused any way. in otherwords Bandwdith allocated on a fair weighted queuing priority basis. The advatnage of Marlon's model, is he has the data to pick and chose customers. The high bandwdith hogs gets given to the competition or pay. The second a network starts reaching capacity and the market penetration doesn't, it becomes feasible to be happy not keeping all customers, instead you pick the most profitable customers. The facts are the the network supports it or it doesn't, the provider can afford to upgrade or they can't. What I'm learning is, selling 10mbps peak speeds allows you to play the Comcast game, and beat them at it. I'm selling unlimited now, but its important to track the usage. That might have to change, as people start using the links to replace their VCRs. The reality is, eventuality one will have to port limit or charge per bit. I'm jsut avoiding that day until it has to happen, so I don't lose customers for the greater good, unless I have to. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps > Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: > >> First, I have to figure out how many kbps a gig of download would be. >> Specifically, I've got a couple of customers doing 50 gigs per month. >> How many kbps does it take to generate that? > > Assuming a month is 30 days (nice round number), 50GB/month is about > 161kbps, all the time. That's the equivalent of, say, leaving a > high-quality streaming radio station running, or a low-quality video > feed like gbs.tv. > > I'm staying out of the rest of the discussion, because I'm violently > allergic to pay-by-the-bit pricing. It may make good sense to the > bookkeeper, but with streaming media (YouTube, Google Video), big > downloadable media (iTunes movies, Amazon Unbox), and giant software > downloads (World of Warcraft and just about every other MMORPG) becoming > more prevalent, I think it's just gonna seriously annoy your users in > the long term. > > David Smith > MVN.net > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived
I too am interested in what the minium price would be to put up a POP using Alvarion gear. I really like my Trango gear but this stuff sounds awesome and from what I read the Comnet program is just what I am looking for. To compare to build out a Trango POP it costs about 1600 that includes AP, a switch and a battery backup system. Can Alvarion get close to this? On 12/22/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's much closer Patrick. That's for sure. Let run some numbers though. Tranzeo or Inscape Data ap: $450ish. Will deliver an honest 3 to 4 megs to almost anyone at ranges up to 10 miles. 1 to 2 megs out to 15 miles. Sector antenna, $400. Or omni and amp, $500 to $700 depending on the quality of the amp and antenna. This'll handle roughly 75 to 100 users pretty easily. If we need 3 sectors we're still at $2500 or so for the whole pop, battery backup, switch, cables etc. If we're lucky that'll even include backhaul. For CPE the cost is gonna be around: 15dB integrated antenna version (good to 3 to 5 miles) $180ish 18dB version (out to around 8 miles) $200ish $12ish for antenna brackets (I don't buy the cheap ones, only the good ones from PacWireless) $10 to $20 for cable ($.15 to $.25 per foot) Misc. nuts and bolts $20. We're at $225 $250 per sub plus labor. Connectorized version, $180ish 24dB grid antenna, $90ish (I don't buy cheap antennas, only Andrew cast magnesium (same as the Alvarion ones)) Mount, $12 Misc. nuts and bolt, tape etc. $20 Cable, $10 to $20. This one comes in closer to $350 when it's all said and done. Believe me, I understand about the long term maintenance costs too. But I've got to compete against cable, dsl, fiber to the home or all of the above in ALL of my population density centers and a lot of my rural areas. Most of my towers have fewer than 25 users on them. Many are under 10. Only a few are anywhere near 50 and one serves around 100. Last year we installed over 80 new radios (some of them were for our use, some were upgrades etc.) and have, so far, around 60 new subs. This with basically no marketing effort at all, and in the face of amazing competition. Per customer there are VERY few out there that have more competitive services. Our network now spans around 6000 square miles. It's taken over 20 sites with nearly 30 ap's to do this. Our growth potential is really good. But not in all areas, some areas there just aren't any homes, so there won't be any more customers coming. We are NOT running business grade services on anyone's wifi gear. Today we're using Trango. $1200ish per ap and $300ish per cpe (averaged out). They'll deliver 8 to 9 megs of real world throughput right out of the box. Great security and flexibility. Alvarion has been loyal to WISPA and Trango's still not here though. I want to go play with the new Alvarion gear, I don't have any single area with enough growth to keep me in the program though. Even with resi. customers tossed in. If I were in Spokane, Seattle, Yakima etc. it would be a no brainer for me. The interference robustness, the scalability, the upgradeability etc. all make this a much more cut and dried decision. Especially the inference issues. I look at what we fight with out here with relatively few alien devices in the air. How guys like Forbes keep their customers running is a mystery to me. The manpower overhead has to be a killer. How do those numbers compare with a similar VL solution Help me find a way to justify the big boy toys. Trust me, the idea that I'd not need to do any work on my network appeals to me more and more with every new customer. But we're still taking care of things with 1.75 people and I spend an average of 25% to 30% of my day on these lists and other WISPA type duties so I probably really only count for a 3/4 time person. If I'd totally automate my billing, get rid of my time on the lists and forward the office calls to my cell phone I could probably do this with one person. (saving around $17,000 per year in payroll) But who wants to work that hard forever? And Mary is much nicer on the phone than I am :-). Have a great Christmas! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
I am impressed that you knew what my last name says :) I always have to explain it to people. We use two rbl's currently: relays.ordb.org and list.dsbl.org and spamhaus for now They seem to do an alright job. On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ok so you will live another day without getting beaten up :-P Thank you will investigate, have website up,. what DNSRBL list is recommended (I have read about Spamhaus) Thank you again Mr Niemandtsverdriet (Translation - No ones Sorrow) Nice Last name. :-D Yes I do speak another language - Afrikaans You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules > shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr > but they are really easy to install. > > See the wiki page: > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin > > On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out >> of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ >> >> Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. >> >> You have a Good Day now, >> >> >> Carl A Jeptha >> http://www.airnet.ca >> Office Phone: 905 349-2084 >> Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm >> skype cajeptha >> >> >> >> Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: >> > Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) >> > >> > On 10/17/06, rwf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi Marlon- >> >> >> >> We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam >> >> that has >> >> been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no >> readable >> >> text. >> >> I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal >> Email >> >> accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. >> >> >> >> How does postini filter the graphical spam? >> >> >> >> Ralph >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 >> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM >> >> To: WISPA General List >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam >> >> >> >> our postini is doing a pretty good job. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
If you have spamassassin setup and running you can just add the rules shown on the spamassassin wiki. You need to have imagemagick and gocr but they are really easy to install. See the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/OcrPlugin On 10/18/06, Carl A Jeptha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok spill the beans about the ocr, don't let me get to you to beat it out of you. (OOOPPPS did I say that out loud ) :-[ Please give more info as this is the means of doing spam now. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Andrew Niemantsverdriet wrote: > Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) > > On 10/17/06, rwf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi Marlon- >> >> We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam >> that has >> been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable >> text. >> I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email >> accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. >> >> How does postini filter the graphical spam? >> >> Ralph >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 >> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam >> >> our postini is doing a pretty good job. >> >> >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam
Just use spamAssassin with an OCR plugin it does wonders :) On 10/17/06, rwf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Marlon- We use ASSP. It works great, but it fails a bit at the stock spam that has been coming out lately. It is almost entirely a graphic with no readable text. I figure that the 300+ it kills from just my business and personal Email accounts is justification for deleting 1-2 graphical ones a day. How does postini filter the graphical spam? Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trying to block Stock Spam our postini is doing a pretty good job. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
