[WISPA] Service in Springfield, MO
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[WISPA] Legal channels in 5.5GHz
Can someone point me to documentation, or provide info, on what's legal in this band in the US? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SMA to UFL cable
Hey guys. I need a 16 SMA male to UFL cable. Anyone have a good source for this? I only need 1. I've found somewhere that will do them but they will only do a minimum of 5. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
What new features are needed on the CPE? I've dealt with a lot of their Ligowave radios and the only complaint I have is the speed of their interface, but I know they're working on that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Norris Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Navini
Anyone out there still have an older navini system in place? If so, I need some assistance if someone has a minute or two. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Navini
??? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:24 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Navini Thanks Bill. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Navini Anyone out there still have an older navini system in place? If so, I need some assistance if someone has a minute or two. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz / 802.11y-2008
Ligowave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz / 802.11y-2008 Now that the 802.11y-2008 standard has been finalized, what can we expect? Will anyone be deploying gear in that spectrum? What vendors are the current players? Everything I have seen in that spectrum is using Wimax. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz / 802.11y-2008
How do you get that from that link? They just recently received FCC approval in the band, so I'm sure they're legal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz / 802.11y-2008 Jason, Thanks for that. According to http://ligowave.com/?q=news/2 they aren't legal for US operation. I do like the price point. I like it very much. Jason Hensley wrote: Ligowave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65Ghz / 802.11y-2008 Now that the 802.11y-2008 standard has been finalized, what can we expect? Will anyone be deploying gear in that spectrum? What vendors are the current players? Everything I have seen in that spectrum is using Wimax. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have
Can it go 40' unguyed? How hard it is to push it up? I've got a similar 30' that came from Radio Shack I think, but I can't get it to 30' unguyed. But, it was a LOT less cost than this one. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have Damn, I love this thing already.Good price too, how quick can you put this up? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 9:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have what: wonderpole 40' fiberglass push up pole where: http://www.wonderpole.com/wp640_630.html why:It is easy to take a telescoping pole to a site survey and put a panel up in air for testing. I don't push mine out to 40' often, and not for long, but regularly push it up 26' or so to do a test. Well made, reasonably priced, and made in the good old USA. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams
Stay far far away from Savvis. They did me VERY dirty on a circuit I needed to move. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] choice of upstreams I'm a GigE circuit to the mix, and I've got a choice of: Abovenet Cogent Global Crossing Level3 Savvis I'm looking for recommendations of who the better upstream is. Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power
Only problem I've got with 10Mhz (or 5Mhz) is that a vast majority of laptops cannot see that, and it kills our hotspot capabilities. Beyond that, yes, it's fantastic. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power Better signal due to noise floor change. 10Mhz has been a life send. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:06 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 1/2 size channels and tx power Just curious about something. If' I'm using an R5H card with a 54meg tx power of 21db, then switch it to 1/2 size channels (10mhz), will I still be limited to 21db txpower, or something closer to 25 (the 24M full size channel tx power)? I'm pretty sure the txpower is tied to the modulation, not the size of the channel, but I've seen mention of getting better signal strengths under smaller channels (spectral density?). -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc 435-674-0165 x 2010 http://www.infowest.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower
Hey Mark. My experience on the Pac 120* H-Pol sectors is that you will come very close to 360* with just two of them. I would stay away from 180's. I think it was the good man Marlin that sent me some info about those a few years back when I considered this and I decided on the 120's. Worked great at very close to 360. You may get some odd lobes and dead space but planned accordingly you can probably cover what you need with just two of them. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectoring a tower I have one of my towers that has grown to 32 subs, This is a MT ap and I hear that is the magic limit. The only current issue I have with it CPU maxing out at peak times and I am planning a board swap for that. I was also thinking of sectoring but do not feel the need for three. Having a hard time finding a 180 deg HPOL 2.4Ghz sector. Found one that SuperPass sells but the quality does not seem to be there. Mark WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NAT issue with Hotmail/Yahoo/Google
Yep, we've seen this too. Ended up being a rogue user on the network that we had to shutdown from sending spam. Fixed them and it cleared it up after a little bit. We are moving all users to their own publics as well as we migrate everything to PPPoE. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:41 PM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] NAT issue with Hotmail/Yahoo/Google We are having a problem with certain sites that are rejecting our customers because they say the IP address has sent too much traffic over the last 24 hours. This is a problem, as 98% of our customers are behind a single NATted IP address. I am just changing the IP address of the NAT server every 12 hours now, but am looking for a better solution. Anyone have any similar issues? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Question....
Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable to me, but of course, many other possibilities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT Question Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch. Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 08:12:19.455 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 13:52:16.606 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 13:52:18.661 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up Oct 27 14:15:10.273 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 14:15:11.314 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to down Oct 27 16:26:29.667 EST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/21, changed state to up I know the gig port is going up and down but does it tell you anything else? Tnx. -B- -B- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues.
Sounds like symptoms of an ip address conflict possibly. Sent from Windows mobile device... -Original Message- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:33 PM To: Mikrotik discussions mikro...@mail.butchevans.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik] Frustrating connectivity issues. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. Are you sure it's functional? I expect it probably isn't usable while the pings stop just like browsing isn't capable. What are you pinging from/to? Do you have the Tranzeo fix applied to your CPEs as you're using a Mikrotik AP? Is the Tranzeo rebooting per their interpretation of the RFC? Is the wireless registration staying up according to the AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: Recently I posted an issue with a new customer that had a great signal but poor throughput. A lot of people sais multipath. Well now I have more data and another customer seeing the same thing. 1. If you get connected to an RDP session it stays connected. 2. If you do a constant ping, you get responses for a while, you won't get responses for a while. 3. While the pings respond, you can web browse fast. 4. While the pings don't respond, you get page cannot be displayed. 5. The whole time the RDP session will stay connected and functional. 6. Customer says the online game they play will take several attempts to connect but once connected it works great. Someone else suggested power but tried different power supplies with same result. These are Tranzeo CPQ's as clients and MT AP/RB532/XR-2/120 16db HPol. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091104/5e67ba80/attachment.html ___ Mikrotik mailing list mikro...@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik RouterOS WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client
You referring to this? http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign= Looks like it's well under $100. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client Ruckus Metroflex. That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use. They will be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more Tessco should have good pricing on them. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens. We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up then most laptops with built in wireless. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles
Deliberant - hands down. Have not had a problem with anything at all like this. We dropped Tranzeo a few years ago for other reasons, and are very happy we did. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:23 AM To: bcl...@spectraaccess.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles If someone made a CPE that did NAT properly with the Tranzeo mounting bracket and Ethernet cover, I'd switch to them in a heartbeat. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles I've always worried that by running the CPE's in bridging mode, really opens up the door for a teenage hacker to have a field day snooping the network. On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 09:56 -0500, Andy Trimmell wrote: Our entire user base is based on customers needing to buy a router since we run all of our CPE's in bridge mode. Just not enough processing power to be running other services on them. People don't like the initial $50 to go get a router before we get there but we make it up when they get installed and love the service. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo Troubles On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 00:02 -0500, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: That's the only thing that kept me from loosing my insanity. Dumb question: What are you left with if you lose your insanity? :-) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas
What do you not like about the PacWireless ones? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 24dB 2.4 gig grid antennas Hi All, What are you using for grid antennas? I really don't like the Pac Wireless ones. But I need something new because the Andrew (can't remember the new name) ones are being discontinued. Suggestions? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a new AP
Deliberant would work well for this I believe. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of pat Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need a new AP I have one small group on an old Cisco Aironet 350, which only does 802.11b. 1) I want to have at least a b/g mix, n capable a bonus. 2) Must support WEP encryption, but be able to handle a mix of WEP and WPA simultaneously. (WEP for legacy clients that I haven't upgraded) 3) Must play nice with Tranzeo CPQ and CPE200. You input is helpful. TIA, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.426 / Virus Database: 270.14.89/2539 - Release Date: 12/01/09 19:32:00 --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
I think I'm hitting 802 limit. CPU on the board isn't getting tasked that hard. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the lack of horsepower on the AP's CPU? Greg On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Sectors
Max 3meg - b only mode on this particular AP. Most are still able to get that, but we're seeing a decline on how many can pull 3meg. At peak times, we've seen it to where users aren't able to get much over 1meg, but that's not happening very often right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:23 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Yeah, how much bandwidth are you passing to those 35 customers, Jason? Just curious. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Do you think you're hitting the limit of 802.11b/g or is it the lack of horsepower on the AP's CPU? Greg On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Jason Hensley wrote: On this same subject, would it be better to put up 3 individual AP's, or would something like the Deliberant Quad work well if the issue is AP overload. I have an AP that has 35 subscribers right now. We've seen a performance drop on it and are considering sectoring. Any thoughts on a dual (or quad) radio on a single board vs multiple boards with single radios? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:28 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors Mark, If I remember right, you are in Missouri. I was looking for the strength of your omni. We have had good success with 9 db omni's in the Indiana farmland. When we need to sectorize but the market capacity is not that high, we often go to (2) 180 Superpass 9 db sectors. We have had good luck with them over the years. They improve our signal to existing clients and enable affordable expansion in rural areas. If the market will justify 3 sectors, I would go that way though. Many of our Wireless POPs are pico-cells and we try to limit our salesmen to a 6 mile diameter around the tower. Although, we can often go farther, we try to stay inside these guidelines when possible. To achieve a high density of broadcast stations, many locations are needed. Luckily, we are well established in our area and have most of these sites already in operation. Your mileage may vary given your topology and broadcast site density. Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Sectors I am running 2.4 HPOL It has taken about 1.5 yrs to grow this AP to 32 subs. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What frequency band and polarization? I would also strongly consider your reasoning for moving from the Omni to the sectors. If it is because your AP is overloaded so you need to offload some, 3 AP's might be attractive for future proofing sakes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors 9db -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:42 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors What size omni are you using? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sectors That is the general suggestion - two 120s. That one guy that does antenna design said so :) You will get some less coverage then three 120s but at the cost of the extra radio/antenna it isn't cost efficient. On 12/1/09, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: I need to sector a tower that currently is an omni. I don't really want to go to 3x 120's but find it hard to find 180's and have heard they don't tend to work great. I have also heard 2x 120's will work, any comments? Mark - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire
Situations like this we replace the CPE at no charge. We maintain the CPE for our customers for any natural issues. Anything like Dog chewing cable, shotgun blasts, whatever, the customer is responsible for. With CPE prices where they are, it doesn't pay to go through the hassle or potential upset of the customer to try and charge them. I'd rather have the customer for life. Phone company will charge $200 (or more) for a replacement DSL modem that will take 3-5 days to get to them (unless they want to pay for overnight shipping). We're there same day (or whenever the customer is ready) to replace it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:38 PM To: WISPA General List; motor...@afmug.com Subject: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire Lost our first CPE from a house fire. Guy was so down on the phone, I couldn't bear to bother him with an insurance claim on the CPE. What have you done? Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30* or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that we could use to replace this one with. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Ice works. :) Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of crusty stuff trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the sticky or whatever but it went on just fine. Temp was around 20 degrees. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30* or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that we could use to replace this one with. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather
Yes, that's the biggest thing is that during our cold weather we've had here the past week or so (0* with -15 wind chills - not a normal thing here in Southern Missouri) our current weather seal methods aren't easy to install. Sure, we could do it inside and would work fine but we get up on a tower in this cold and the tapes get just a bit too stiff for us to use, and hate to climb twice to pull an antenna down just to water seal it on the ground in a warm environment. Luckily we have better days now. Got up to 40 or so today and should be that way all week. MUCH better!!! Normal weather we don't have issues with water sealing - we have found a great system that works for us - rubber/mastic tape with electrical tape over that and on occasion, silicone for those connectors that we can't quite get the tape down into adequately. Thanks for the recommendations guys. Appreciate all the help that this list is. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather I think Jason's angle is that products often times have an application temperature range that is less than the temperature way in which they'll do their job. What everyone does may well work fine at 70 degrees ambient, but at 30 or -50, what works? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Wow... I wish I had a dollar for every time this subject is discussed. I would be in the Caribbean right now. :-) Its kinda like the Windows/Linux discussion... -B- RickG wrote: Ditto. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Coax seal. On 1/11/10, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Our luck hasn't been good with that. Other ideas / possibilities? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Ice works. :) Was swapping antennas last night and I just used the normal self vulcanizing tape, worked fine in the cold although there was a bit of crusty stuff trying to flake off the tape, I assume was the vulcanizing chemical or the sticky or whatever but it went on just fine. Temp was around 20 degrees. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Water sealing in cold weather Hey guys. What do you use to water seal a connection in cold weather (30* or colder)? N connector specifically. This is something that needs to be done on top of a tower - need to replace a radio and would prefer to not have to bring the antenna down to do it and don't have another antenna that we could use to replace this one with. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless
[WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector
Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T or SPHSG4T ? Other better recommendations for similar price? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector
How many do you have and out of that how many have failed? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Kilton Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:52 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector Funny you should ask, I just replaced a Superpass antenna this morning because we had another fail. I have been happy with the 2.4ghz H-Pol Pac Wireless antennas. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:36 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 2.4 Hpol sector Anyone have any experience with the SuperPass line, either the SPHSG2T or SPHSG4T ? Other better recommendations for similar price? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Crossroads
Yep, that would be them - formerly known as Poplar PCS. Came into our area, tied up RUS funds, waited until the last minute to put equipment on water towers, offered marketing through a local Office Supply company, then nothing. First tests with their stuff wasn't impressive according to a friend of mine. They put out coverage maps that were not accurate; may have had grand plans for what they wanted to cover but it didn't work - especially not here in our area. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned. I've got enough noise in the area without them bringing stuff in as well. What irritated me about them getting funding was that there were already three broadband providers in our area here - the local LEC and two WISP's. I really don't understand how they pulled it off, but they did - and pretty well eliminated any possibility of some of us other realistic WISPs from obtaining funds. I'm sure I'm not the only one in this position - they got what, something like $75million to spread over a bunch of different counties? Man, what I could do with just a small piece of that! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Crossroads Are these the guys that filed for RUS money all over hell and never did anything? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:28 AM To: towerown...@yahoogroups.com Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Crossroads Just got my notice of bankruptcy for Crossroads. Seems they were forced into a chapter 7, and are going to try to motion it to a chapter 11. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900 vs. 4.9 for emergency vehicles
What do you mean the public will have to have access to the backbone? I didn't think 4.9 rules allow any Public traffic across it - only public safety and other related traffic, even if it's Internet service for those departments. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 vs. 4.9 for emergency vehicles Can't do that. The public will HAVE to have access to the backbone. There's no other way to pay for the network. - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900 vs. 4.9 for emergency vehicles I have lots of experience there Marlon. Use 900 for the last mile. Use 4.9 for the multipoint backbone of the 900 cells and to feed any fixed locations (buildings, traffic systems, cameras). Ideally, integrate the in-vehicle 900 MHz CPE with an 802.11 rugedized AP so officers can have a personal WLAN microcell around their vehicles for PDA, etc. use. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 900 vs. 4.9 for emergency vehicles Hi All, Anyone have any experience on this? I was thinking 4.9 but I've been told that the ranges are very short. There isn't likely much (I'll have to run around and test) 900 out in my rural area, maybe that would be a better system? thoughts? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Where you at Chadd? May be some of us on here could help you out a little bit. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chadd Thompson Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN Been there done that. We were getting double billed for about 8 months because they didn't remove our billing on some old circuits after they forced us to upgrade from the old SBC network. We paid it for a few months because our account rep said it would be fixed and they would credit our account for what we over paid. Well they didn't get it fixed and we stopped paying it, our account rep assured us it was nothing to worry about and that it would be taken care of. Well 8 months later the ATT collections dept was calling me saying they were going to turn us over to an outside collection agency. A quick call to my account rep and then one to the IL commerce commission had the problem taken care of in about 2 weeks. Sounds like you have had similar issues with them but you have no idea how much grief ATT/SBC has caused me over the last 6 yrs we have been in business. I wish I could get away from them but at this point in time no one seems to be able to help us out down here. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN Of course, they'll bill you 10 times that and never fix their billing issues! -RickG On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Chadd Thompson chad...@msn.com wrote: Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial DS3. 10mb: $4300 20mb: $4788 30mb: $5300 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I won't say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k. The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet justification. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Richey myli...@battleop.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN /rant on Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a market where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might get a DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. For those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in the beginning. If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give you an allocation. I have had problems in the past with a similar situation where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN. ARIN would not do anything until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem. The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard for the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks are non portable. /rant off Richey -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cliff Olle Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are only using 4 class Cs? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP. Scott - Original Message - From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's) John Marlon K. Schafer wrote: We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and will need more pretty soon in one location. Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? marlon
Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Wow, that close to Chicago area and you don't get better than that for 0 mile. I do better than that with a 90mile loop over fiber!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:22 AM To: rku...@colusanet.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN Depends on the loop. My CO is a tandem and there are at least 6 different carriers there (Qwest, ATT, MCI, Sprint, Lightcore, and Norlight first come to mind), but I'm still $5k - $7k for a DS3 with a 0 mile loop. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN They're close to 1/2 that now. Rk On 3/17/2009 8:22 PM, Chadd Thompson wrote: Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial DS3. 10mb: $4300 20mb: $4788 30mb: $5300 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Aerial / Self-Support Cat5
Got an application where I need an aerial run from an AP on a light pole to a building - about 50ft or so. I've seen the aerial Cat5 with a messenger cable (is that the right terminology??) connected to it somewhere a year or so ago, but can't find it again. Anyone know if this is available? I've found fiber like this, but no Cat5/6. Have seen both terms - aerial and self-support Cat-5 used but neither search has been very helpful for me. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
I'll throw in another thumbs up to Platypus. I can't live without it, tech support is great, it does autoprovisioning with my mailserver (ModusMail) and integrates with RADIUS (VopRADIUS), has a web-based customer interface built-in, easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too), has capability to do DNS autoconfigure if I remember right, but I think that takes a little bit of work to get that done. Wouldn't trade it for anything and if I had it to do over again, the only thing I'd change is that I would have dropped the money for Wombat long before I did. The price (for both Wombat and Platypus), to me, is reasonable and it makes my life so much easier. I would have to pay an extra person at least part time to take care of what Platypus does automagically for us, and when I look at the honest truth in that, I realize that what I'm paying is a drop in the bucket compared to what an additional person would cost. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 1:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. I agree with you on that. So many fixes that create other bugs. Hopefully with the new Bertram ownership, this will stabilize. They have been more responsive lately, though, when we do find bugs. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop, Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 http://www.unwiredwest.com 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: John McDowell j...@boonlink.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. You guys should read the threads on the Moto list. Lot of people tired of the way the company is doing it's customers. And tired of testing beta software full of bugs with every release. This includes us. A Powercode customer of 2 years. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: Marlon, I looked at Intrameta and PowerCode and chose PowerCode for bang for buck. You really should look at them. It has its faults, but it's like a drug that we can't do without. It handles alot for us. Do a demo one day and check it out. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop, Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 http://www.unwiredwest.com 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. http://intrameta.com/ They are a vendor member and good guys. I've talked to them (David Wilson got us hooked up) quite a bit. It sounds like they have a nice system. But the costs are higher than I can justify at this point and last I talked to them they didn't have a billing mechanism in place. marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Hi Marlon, In no particular order, here's a list of some of the more popular ISP/WISP billing packages that we see in the market Platypus/Tucows PowerCode Rodopi BillMax Freeside Emerald / IEA Software Every package has their strengths and weaknesses -- ultimately, it comes down to personal preference and business processes to see what's a best fit Whatever it is that you end up with...be sure to check out ip pay (www.ippay.com) for your back-end payments =) -Charles P.S. -- in all seriousness -- QuickBooks does a really good job of hosing merchants (especially ISPs) on their payment processing -- we actually just helped another ISP/WISP pay for a new billing system with the $400 / month we were saving when they switched from QuickBooks Merchant Services to IP Pay -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:52 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: memb...@wispa.org; Odessa Office 509-982-2181 Subject: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Hi All, I just got a notice that Quickbooks is going to REQUIRE an upgrade in order to continue to keep sending out bills via email. And we have all of 1 month or so to get it done I HATE Intuit and would like to replace them. Here's the work flow in our office. New customer calls in. Fill out signup sheet with all needed customer data. Assign static ip to customer. Enter customer billing info into Quickbooks. Enter all customer data into Access. Enter customer username and pass into RADIUS. Enter customer email account(s) data into email server. Enter customer data into Postini (if they purchase the filtering). Type customer signup sheet
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software.
I use Quickbooks for my store side (computer sales, repairs, etc). I can't imagine trying to use it for my ISP side billing. What nightmare that would be!! Marlon, what you mentioned you go through in provisioning for a new customer when they sign up that you said takes 30 minutes or so, well, it takes us about 2 minutes with Platypus - just to put that into perspective for you. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. We currently use QuickBooks - I believe the billing person likes it for it's simplicity. We are trying to move to PowerCode, though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Paul Kralovec pkralo...@unpluggedcities.com wrote: One of the big advantages of Platypus and Wombat is it allows you to maintain separate client information. We provide helpdesk support, billing and payment processing services to other ISPs and city networks. Each account requires detail accounting for their customers. Tucows' products were the only one we could find that would handle this easily and without special programming. Paul D. Kralovec President Unplugged Cities, LLC 511 11th Ave. S Suite 241 Minneapolis, MN 55415 W: 763-235-3001 F: 763-647-7998 C: 952-270-9107 www.unpluggedcities.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:38 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Use it for both, as well as hosting, email only, fiber customers, etc. Wish I had a way to integrate it for my computer sales and repair customers, but I haven't figured out a good way to do that yet without making Platypus my primary billing system for all of that as well, which I really don't want to do. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISP billing/management software. Jason Hensley wrote: easy integration with Wombat (help-desk that we integrated a few months ago - love it too) Jason Do you use Wombat for dialup or wireless subs? I'm curious because I was going to add wombat a few years ago but held off, Lately I was considering checking out wombat to see if it would be a benefit, but I couldn't find enough info on it. George -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Colocation
This is about where we're at as well, and we're not that far from you Mark :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Colocation We charge $75/month per 1u of rack space. Unlimited bandwidth, unlimited speed. Travis Microserv Mark McElvy wrote: I guess I should have finished with how do you price such a thing. I would like to offer a customer rackspace at my office. Two 2U servers with UPS provided by customer and put in our rack. Managed by us. Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radius authentication
I wouldn't wish Steel Belted on anyone. I hate it. I haven't used it but FreeRadius is pretty popular. I've been considering moving to it, but I like my VopRadius too much :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Radius authentication I need to setup a radius server and wanted to ask what you recommend/use. I have used steel belted radius in the past , but it has been a long time. I basically just need to be able to setup usernames and password auth off my gateway box. Thanks for any suggestions, and of course free would be nice... http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
I would second what Steve has said as well, but my questino to you would be that if you have all other vendor pieces figured out, why not stay with your AP vendor for your CPE's? Depending on AP's, you might actually HAVE to stay with the same vendor. I would hop you have considered that as well. We have a second network that we inherited from a company we merged with that would supposedly support generic CPE's. Well, it does, but it takes some workarounds to make it work like we want. My personal experience with Tranzeo is mixed. I have a few Tranzeo AP's, and some CPE's, that have been in the air for about 4 years that I never have to touch. But, I went through a time about 2.5 years ago when Tranzeo evidently had a bad run of CPE's or something and it burned me on them. I got some Deliberant gear in and wouldn't change it for the world. Deliberant, at least at that time, offered better features, better support, and a better price. Not sure how they compare now though, but I think the situation is about the same. Only thing I have negative on Deliberant radios is that their interface is still a bit slow, but I really think they're making improvements over what it was at one time. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:14 PM To: Steve Barnes Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community Thanks, Steve. Your advice is helpful. (I actually already have all of the other vendor pieces. I am now just looking for CPE devices to put on the roofs of the houses that subscribe.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
Only problem I've found with this is that eventually the foam gets worn out and doesn't spring back and if the plastic cover is not flush with the unit then it will leak as well. I've had similar issues to what David described and have tried it how you describe, tightening down completely, loosely, etc. Gotten to where I will put a line of silicone around the top and sides of the cover to keep water out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community Let me guess, you are torquing down the plastic cover until it can be torqued down no more! Use this method.. no tools required: *With left hand; Press down cover, compressing the foam, until it touches the unit. Perform this right next to where the stud comes through the cover. *With right hand tighten nut with fingers until finger tight. *Let go of cover with right hand. The foam should spring back with just enough pressure to keep it compressed, but not too compressed. *Repeat until done with all 4 nuts. After you do this for a while you can do it with one hand... or better yet, you will know how much you should be tightening down the cover and you can use a nut-driver. ryan David Hulsebus wrote: The only issue I've had with Tranzeo are the cover and seal they use for the POE. We've followed their directions but have had issues with water seeping into a few units. We now drill small holes in the bottom of the cover to let them drain if needed. We got tired of climbing a tower to replace defective units after a few days of rain.. Has anyone else experienced this? They are the TR5a-2024f series. Thanks, Dave Hulsebus Portative Technologies, LLC www.portative.com Steve Barnes wrote: Very Nice Post Matt. I agree completely. Few reboots here and there but rock solid 98% of the time. The cable boot issue that Matt is talking about is that you can't have cables pre-crimped you have to feed the wire through the boot then crimp the end on. Some other manufactures system had a rubber grommet that will compress down enough that you can get the cable through already crimped and tighten it after the fact. Takes an installer 2 mistakes of having to cut ends off and redo to fix that from being a problem. Tranzeo are good units. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community A few responses here: 1) You don't have to use Tranzeo APs with Tranzeo CPEs.The new Tranzeo APs (EN-500 series) does have a lot more management features than the older Tranzeo units (TR-6000, TR-5a). You can also use StarOS or Mikrotik APs and have all the centralized management and advanced features that you could possibly want for an 802.11 network. 2) The older CPEs do need to be rebooted occasionally. The newer units do not seem to have this same problem. 3) I tend to disagree with comments that the cases are poorly designed. The Tranzeo radios have substantial internal grounding and have a very high degree of tolerance for environmental extremes, both hot and cold. They are built like tanks compared to the PCB in a plastic case design of the Ubiquiti and Motorola Canopy radios. The cable boot is not that bad to work with, but they could be improved. 4) Tranzeo is RUS approved. I would have to dig up the link, but I did determine that they will qualify for RUS or stimulus financing. 5) They work great for PTMP, and there are hundreds of thousands of Tranzeos out in the field providing PTMP service to WISP customers. The 2.4ghz models have the same limitations of all 802.11b gear, but the 802.11a based gear is especially capable and a great value. Hope that helps. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com 3-dB Networks wrote: So are you looking to provide a muni Wi-Fi type setup? I have used and deployed a few hundred Tranzeo radios... they seem to play best with each other... there has been issues when mixing other clients with them. There is not going to be a central management system for them... which could be very problematic I have seen many issues with the management locking up, with a reboot being the only way to bring it back. Tranzeo may have worked past these issues by now. In my opinion their radio cases are poorly designed, but it helps make them cheap. Of note the cable boot can be very difficult to work with. Overall though, I would deploy Tranzeo in the right situations. I'm not sure you have one of them though. I would lean towards Ubiquity since they are a cheaper price point and there are
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 New Player
Don't know about quality or feature comparison, but at a quick glance it looks like they are significantly more expensive than Tranzeo. Can anyone give a good comparison as to which would be better for the money, or at least what features the Proxim is going to have that would justify the higher expense? I'm assuming nobody has deployed the Proxim solution yet, at least not for long. We're looking hard at a 3650 solution right now and have yet to make a decision, but Tranzeo's starter kits are sure appealing at the price point they are at. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:24 AM To: Motorola Canopy User Group; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 New Player Proxim Tsunami MP.16 has been FCC aproved for 3.65 ghz http://www.proxim.com/products/mp16/index.html Seems like all other solutions, all outdoor Base, inlcudes GPS sync Nice Html interface with lots of features, like vlan trunk and access mode. NAT on the SM Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] DMS Wireless Antennas
Anybody have any feedback on them? I just found that they have a 12db H-Pol omni that is significantly cheaper than the PacWireless ones I've been getting. Any good comparison data on them in real world? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Well, we don't charge a dime if it's problems on our equipment or our setup. We charge an install fee and maintain ownership of the equipment. If it's something on their computer, internal router, etc etc (stuff that we don't own or control) then it's $70 first hour, $50/hr after that. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of my_em...@webjogger.net Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, -- Jon Roux Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net 845.757.4000 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling
Wombat with Platypus. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Workorders and install / Repair scheduling Just curious whats everyone using for workorders and scheduling? I've got a home grown solution I made a few years back that I intergrated google calendars into however we aren't happy with it and am looking into a new system. Ryan WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5GHz antenna
Looking for a H-Pol Omni that covers the entire 5Ghz band (5.1-5.8Ghz). Anyone know of an antenna that does that? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna
There are a few options for a 5.8 Hpol omni, but not one that covers 5.1-5.8. Thanks! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna This is only 5.7-5.8 and I think it's going to be the closest match to your request. Only HPOL omni I have ever seen in that band. http://www.wlanparts.com/product/58EOH9/Antenna_58GHZ_OUTDOOR_OMNIDIRECTIONA L_HPOL_9DBI_58EOH9.html Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] 5GHz antenna Looking for a H-Pol Omni that covers the entire 5Ghz band (5.1-5.8Ghz). Anyone know of an antenna that does that? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors
For me, personally in our area, 3650 is attractive because of the lack of noise. We are saturated with 2.4 and 5GHz here, but if I was in an area with low noise levels in 2.4 and 5Ghz, then I would not see a point in spending the extra money to deploy 3650 gear. I personally don't care that much about WiMax itself, as I tend to agree that a lot of it is marketing hype. We have a city-wide (NOT Muni) 802.11 hotspot system that generates a fair amount of revenue for us with roaming users connecting with their laptops. 3650 won't do that because I doubt we will be seeing laptops with built-in 3650 cards anytime soon (though I could be wrong). You can easily pull 10-20meg through 5.8 gear in low noise, good LOS environments. We're doing 10meg in an area that is saturated with 5.8. I'm looking at 3650 SOLELY because of our noise floor. If it wasn't for the noise, I'd keep plugging along hanging Deliberant 2.4 and 5Ghz CPE's all over the place. Ideally, what I'm moving toward is putting 3650 gear in place for my large backhauls (tower to tower) and for my high-end customers that require higher availability and are willing to pay a premium price (i.e. businesses that want to go all VoIP over a 20meg Internet connection), while maintaining my current networks with their 5Ghz and 2.4 AP locations, although much of the 5Ghz backhaul would be replaced with 3650 gear. Anyway, this is just me. I'm sure a lot of folks have different views and different opinions though, and maybe there is a purpose and need for Wimax itself, but for me, I have yet to see what the big deal is. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 3650Mhz and Wimax Vendors So the recent thread on Wimax was quite interesting. I need to read up on the different technologies involved. I believe that a fixed deployment is sufficient for many many many needs and markets (wireless local loop if you will). If people want mobility/end user wireless they can hang an 802.11 AP off the ethernet port of whatever CPE. Wimax directly to the end device doesn't make much sense to me, in most markets and use cases. Obviously if you are supporting a highly mobile workforce (say public sector type stuff) then it makes a lot more sense. It got me thinking... if one was a new WISP entering an un(der)served market, it seems that it would not make sense to deploy standard 802.11 gear, but rather Wimax gear in 3650Mhz. Is this an accurate assessment? One particular area that I'm targeting, doesn't have any broadband available (other then 3g from Verzion). So they would need to purchase CPE anyway, and it wouldn't be anything they could get from Best Buy (DSL or Cable modem). I'm in the process of negotiating access to the excluded areas (in Southern California), but it's been slow going. Once I gain access it will open up many areas to some sorely needed competition. So who are the vendors in this space worth considering? What are peoples experiences with the sales process (both pre and post sales engineering) etc etc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
$79 at TechData -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Thanks all. I found the WRE54G in stock at Ingram Micro - our cost about $80. I'm still waiting to hear back about working with other vendors radios - if it requires a Linksys AP, it may not be worth it Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Neal Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 3:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster The WRE54G is out of stock at Newegg, also, don't count on saving much on larger orders. We order WRT54GL's, the biggest discount we got was 5% when we ordered 150 of them, and they won't do that anymore. -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Here is the Linksys solution: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRE54G Looks like its $100 MSRP... I bet you could purchase them in larger orders for cheaper to resell though. But it plugs straight into the outlet... small form factor. Not 802.11a though. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - LTI Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:02 AM To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster RouterOS. We can ship it configured to connect to your AP and rebroadcast :) This is the simplest way. We can do this with MESH setups, routed or bridged :) * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training/* http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp The information transmitted (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is intended only for the person(s) or entity/entities to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited, If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Aaron D. Osgood wrote: We're looking for a low cost device that our customers can (preferably) self install in their locations to boost or repeat their WiFi (802.11 A, B, and G) Suggestions? Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. - - -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
Where do you get these for $28? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Maybe I am just missing something here but why in the world would you want to buy a bunch of SOHO routers and re-flash them to another OS? I have seen this thread before on here and didn't have time to ask the reason. I have no time to mess with taking every unit out of a box and flash and test then reseal it and go to the next. I buy 20 Trendnet SOHO 802.11G basic routers for $28 each and drop them in the trucks. Never had a bad one, they all come with a 5ft cable and just work. If a customer wants a router then they pay $45. If they need better distance than I get them a N router later. Last thing I want to do is mess with them all. Heck I hate programming radios. I am working on a plan to just stack Tranzeo's in the truck and upload the config from the laptop. DLink = Lock up all the time at lease the WBR-1310, 30 min no power to reset. Have a pile in back room Linksys = WRT54G ok but had 20 die in one month right at 2 years Buffalo = was good all but the WHR-G125(junky design poor signal) didn't know was available again. Trendnet = 130+ in field no return very few calls require reset. TPLink = Good High power unit very adjustable only used 10 so far. Good USB wireless Adapter as well. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster It doesn't appear the DIR-655 supports tftp firmware flashing. Too bad, that might have been a way to revert to the older firmware. Another reason to say with the more open source Linux based boxes. Greg On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Dylan Oliver wrote: I helped a friend with a D-Link DIR-655 yesterday and was shocked/ disgusted to find that although it HAD supported bridge mode in firmware 1.05, this feature was removed in 1.10+ and of course it wouldn't accept the older firmware as an upgrade. Must be some way but a $90 router is only worth so much tinkering. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Dlink has been pretty stable for me. I like the GUI most of all as it is emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the phone. They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC Sweeping Design LLC -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster
Never mind. I'm assuming this is the one you're talking about: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156038 $25.99 with no shipping. Nice! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:46 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Where do you get these for $28? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 2:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster Maybe I am just missing something here but why in the world would you want to buy a bunch of SOHO routers and re-flash them to another OS? I have seen this thread before on here and didn't have time to ask the reason. I have no time to mess with taking every unit out of a box and flash and test then reseal it and go to the next. I buy 20 Trendnet SOHO 802.11G basic routers for $28 each and drop them in the trucks. Never had a bad one, they all come with a 5ft cable and just work. If a customer wants a router then they pay $45. If they need better distance than I get them a N router later. Last thing I want to do is mess with them all. Heck I hate programming radios. I am working on a plan to just stack Tranzeo's in the truck and upload the config from the laptop. DLink = Lock up all the time at lease the WBR-1310, 30 min no power to reset. Have a pile in back room Linksys = WRT54G ok but had 20 die in one month right at 2 years Buffalo = was good all but the WHR-G125(junky design poor signal) didn't know was available again. Trendnet = 130+ in field no return very few calls require reset. TPLink = Good High power unit very adjustable only used 10 so far. Good USB wireless Adapter as well. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11 a, b, g booster It doesn't appear the DIR-655 supports tftp firmware flashing. Too bad, that might have been a way to revert to the older firmware. Another reason to say with the more open source Linux based boxes. Greg On Apr 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Dylan Oliver wrote: I helped a friend with a D-Link DIR-655 yesterday and was shocked/ disgusted to find that although it HAD supported bridge mode in firmware 1.05, this feature was removed in 1.10+ and of course it wouldn't accept the older firmware as an upgrade. Must be some way but a $90 router is only worth so much tinkering. On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Dlink has been pretty stable for me. I like the GUI most of all as it is emulated online, helps me walk through the person on the phone. They all do take turns sucking the most, I agree, Rick. -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC Sweeping Design LLC -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WAN HotSpot and Polarity
Oh, and in response to question #5, our typical hotspot users, I guess really all of our users, barely know how to get signed on, much less have any clue about antenna polarity. We get the rare one that is very savvy on this, but for the most part, our users are still pretty much in the dark as to differences in polarity, technologies, etc etc. All they know is whether or not they can sign on, and if they can get on, what speeds they are getting, how fast they get their email, and how reliable their gaming and video is :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] WAN HotSpot and Polarity Over the years, there have been many theories and strategies regarding what polarity is best to use for various purposes. As an engineer, I as well have my theories. But, I wanted to get an updated opinion based on field trials of others, for the following application Application... 2.4Ghz WAN WIFI HotSpot Specs... 1) Average sub located within 100 yards to 1/2 mile. 2) Find and Subscribe by Search for available Networks, via laptop's WIFI card. 3) If RF signal good enough to get a web splash screen to user, will display instruction for ordering higher gain antenna self-install kit for inside their window mount or balcony. 4) Access Point would likely use a sector panel (60 deg?), with an EIRP of 36db. The goal here is enabling residential users to find the ISP's AP on their own. So my questions are 1. If a Horizontally polarized antenna is used at the AP, Is it likely the consumer will equally be able to find your AP, compared to if it had been verical pol'd? The idea being, horizontal pol's noise floor is much lower in the particular area, and more likely ISP will avoid the noise from consumer APs that ship with vert pol antennas, where end users by default will stick the antennas straight up in Verticle pol position. 2. By the time the ISP's horizontal signal gets to the end user, is it received in multiple polarities, based on all the reflections in end users home and stuff? 3. Are laptop wifi cards typically no polarity, and pick up Horizontal as good as verticle signals? 4. Laptops would appear to have Horizontal pol antennas in some cases, expecially if a PCMCIA card. Is this true? Or are most laptops starting to embed verticle pol antennas on the sides of screens? 5. Are End Users getting savy enough to move their laptop all around, when they first take it out of the box, to try and find Horizontal pol APs of ISPs Hotspots? In summary If doing Hotspot WAN deployment, and Verticle noise is significantly higher, will an ISP be doing a smart thing putting their sector on Horiz pol to avoid noise, or shooting themself in the foot because they'll be sending a signal cross pol to the average end user's verticle pol's Wifi card, taking a 20db hit off the bat? Sure Horizontal will be better, if the the consumer gets a professional install, or learns to put an external horizontal pol antenna on their laptop or PC. But most people may not know to do that, by default, for hotspot self subscription. (PS. recognize could use dual pol or 45deg off pol, but purposely avoiding that, to try not to interfere with others, to enable more people to play in the same spectrum) What have other's found? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test Tom DeReggi wrote: Good point but. the problem went away when the mcpi cards each had their own SBC/Case, this would infer card to card or pigtail to pigtail interference, since in all cases the dummy load was outside the cases, from what it sounds like. I guess that should be clarified Kurt, when you tested with teh RB600 and 3 cards on the adjacent slots, was the RB600 also in a case with the holes metal taped? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband Question I have that should debunk that theory that cards in close proximity interfere with each other. Why do the cards not interfere with each other when there is additional gain antennas hooked on to them? You would think there would be even more self interference with high gain antennas than with no antennas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Speaking of ferrite..
What's a good source? I'm about out and am not sure where we got our last batch from. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs
Same here. In our agreement that we can come on premises and get it any time. We also charge a $225 equipment non-return fee if they don't let us in, or don't bring us, the POE adapter. Most of the time that gets their attention and they get the equipment in to us. We DON'T let the client bring us the radio though - too many problems / possibilities for issues. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs Got that covered. Every customer signs a 4 page agreement that gives us right to come onto the property at any time. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs The repo antenna thing...you might want to have an officer join you. You do not want to get in a trespassing lawsuit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Forward all of their port 80 stuff to a non-payment web server and they usually come right in to pay. After 2 months I'll go repo the antenna. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs I've got a few non-paying subs, that we would like to get payment on. It has reached over $1k from 4 subs over the past 6 months. Do you just cut your losses and move on or what do you do? I'm contemplating small claims court as it should be an open and shut case, but it's $91 in fees per person. We've done the collection letter and it hasn't worked. We got the please don't turn it off, I'm coming to pay...and it never happened. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs
In my personal experience, give it to collections, write it off, then blacklist them. Better to get 50% than nothing (with the collections agent that is). Small claims, as you already mentioned, isn't worth it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs Yea, we did this, and we have repo'd the equipment already. This works for most of the users...our policy is normally 30 days as well, but these few got thru the cracks. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs Forward all of their port 80 stuff to a non-payment web server and they usually come right in to pay. After 2 months I'll go repo the antenna. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs I've got a few non-paying subs, that we would like to get payment on. It has reached over $1k from 4 subs over the past 6 months. Do you just cut your losses and move on or what do you do? I'm contemplating small claims court as it should be an open and shut case, but it's $91 in fees per person. We've done the collection letter and it hasn't worked. We got the please don't turn it off, I'm coming to pay...and it never happened. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs
What billing system do you use? Sounds like it's Platypus maybe? Do you have it automated to change their DNS values from the billing system, or do you do that manually? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Handling Non-paying Subs We put them on hold through our billing system (5 days for a residential customer type), I'm using PPPoE to auth/shape the users. When I put them on hold, I also assign new values for their DNS server IP addresses via radius, they point to a redirecting DNS I have setup, so any site they try to go to, sends them to a static page, which lets them know their payment is overdue, and I also have a link to my payment page so they can make payment. This works very well, almost too well, because some customers rely on making payments once they get the on hold page now, but it seems to keep our customers happier, and also saves us from some angry telephone calls. If it's a wireless client, we turn them off after 10 days, and schedule a radio pickup. Regards Michael Baird It has reached over $1k from 4 subs over the past 6 months. Do you just cut your losses and move on or what do you do? I'm contemplating small claims court as it should be an open and shut case, but it's $91 in fees per person. We've done the collection letter and it hasn't worked. We got the please don't turn it off, I'm coming to pay...and it never happened. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Indoor CPE install / window glass type determination
We have quite a few indoor installs and I hate them. There are many issues that you can't control: access to the radio (as mentioned below), children, cleaning folks, dogs, etc etc. We do our best not to do indoor installs, but we have particular apartment complex that won't let us install outside, so we have to put the CPE's in windows. Some go in attics, but I wouldn't even consider doing an indoor install for anything over about 1/4 mile (and this is all 2.4Ghz). Our signal seems inconsistent at best sometimes, etc etc. I agree that you're opening a can of worms you might not want. I would highly advise against it unless you just HAVE to do it to get the customer, but even then I would think hard about it. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB Networks Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:21 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Indoor CPE install / window glass type determination I would advise against doing it. If the CPE is inside it makes fixing customer problems harder (especially 900MHz/2.4GHz since the noise has even less barriers to the CPE) and makes it that the customer has to be home to work on the CPE or to deinstall the CPE. Sounds like your opening up a can of worms... and I'm not sure what the gain would be (sure quicker installs, but the customer is paying for that right?). I cringe at the thought of customer installed CPE's... With that said I have installed Canopy SM's through windows occasionally for special circumstances and have had little issues with them... besides of course tinted windows or energy efficient windows (but depending on distance it might not be an issue). I've even deployed 2.4GHz Wi-Fi based gear in attics with absolutely no-LOS... once again not recommended but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Indoor CPE install / window glass type determination All, Thinking of doing simple indoor installs for short clients 1mi. Is anyone else doing this? any tips or suggestions? I have seen what happens when a home has 'low e' windows! Having lead in the glass makes a very effective microwave shield. Is there an easy way to identify these windows in a home? Would be nice to find out from customer ahead of time if possible. is there a simple tool for the installer to save time identifying these windows? Thanks in Advance, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Water tower question
We've gotten access to two water towers that are what I call bubble towers. An example is here: http://www.watertowers.com/photos_314_Arboretum_Water_Tower.html Obviously we'll have to sector around it, etc etc, not worried about that. Question is, for anyone who has mounted on a tower like this, how do you get your cabling to the ground? Do you go down the legs or is there some other way to do it? Only way we've come up with is to either rappel down or talk the fire dept into helping with their ladder truck and bring the cables down one of the legs. Neither option is very attractive. Is there some other way to get the cabling down the tower? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Water tower question
On important thing I failed to mention, no ladder access from the outside of the tower. Ladder runs up the inside of the middle of the tower, all the way to the top and outside the top hatch, then down a ladder to the catwalk. If there was a ladder on one of the outside legs I wouldn't be asking the question :-) Got 4 other towers we're on that we don't have this issue with. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:43 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water tower question I forgot to add something VERY important - - The less you have touching anything of theirs the better off you will be in the future when it comes time for them to sandblast and paint!! Put your sectors standing off the handrails as far as possible using DB clamps and run your own conduit to attach your CAT5 to!! Mac -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 11:13 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Water tower question We've gotten access to two water towers that are what I call bubble towers. An example is here: http://www.watertowers.com/photos_314_Arboretum_Water_Tower.html Obviously we'll have to sector around it, etc etc, not worried about that. Question is, for anyone who has mounted on a tower like this, how do you get your cabling to the ground? Do you go down the legs or is there some other way to do it? Only way we've come up with is to either rappel down or talk the fire dept into helping with their ladder truck and bring the cables down one of the legs. Neither option is very attractive. Is there some other way to get the cabling down the tower? Thanks! --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.33/2120 - Release Date: 05/19/09 06:21:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures
Wow. Seems like a waste of time and resources. If I mailed contracts like that here I'd lose half my install opportunities because they would never send the contract back. Send a contract with the installer, get them to sign it before they install, give one copy to customer, bring one back, done deal. If nothing else, get an electronic as an initial confirmation, then get an actual signature at install. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Electronic Signatures We currently use a two-year contract for customers. Right now we gather the information, generate a contract, USMail it to the customer and wait for them to USMail it back after they sign it before we schedule an installation. We would like to reduce the time from initial contact to installation. One option we are looking at is electronic signature on the contract. We have done some research into doing this, but thought it would be good to get some other input. If you do electronic signatures, how do you do it? If you use a third party to certify the signatures, who do you use? What is good about them? What is not so good? -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re-evaluating our anti-spam solution
Not cheap at all, but ModusMail does an outstanding job for us. Rock solid and very effective. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Olufemi Adalemo Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re-evaluating our anti-spam solution I have rather different anti-spam requirements For a while now I've been looking for a solution to stop users on a network sending spam via web-based email like Hotmail, Gmail and Yahoo by scanning the outgoing HTTP POST command on a proxy server based on Bayesian statistics like Dansguardian which would have been great if it did POST scanning, is there anything new out there that fits this description? Femi From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: 14 July 2009 05:40 To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re-evaluating our anti-spam solution The difference with Postini compared to an in-house box is Postini stops the incoming SPAM before it uses any bandwidth on our backbone. Last time I checked (over a year ago), it was saving us 3-4Mbps of traffic (24x7). I would guess now it's closer to 7-10Mbps of incoming SPAM flow that never makes it to our network. Postini also queues are mail if we ever have a major problem. We had our email server have a controller failure about a year ago... while we were fixing it and brining up a new box (4-5 hours), no email was lost or even bounced because Positni had queued it all up (on 10,000+ email accounts). :) Travis Microserv Scottie Arnett wrote: Agreed! Been using Postfix since I told Postini to take a hike. They both use a modified version of Postfix and related add-ons. You can make a spam machine out of the cheapest hardware now. I have been doing this for over 3 years and have a much better customer satisfaction. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:25:16 -0400 2009/7/13 Don Grossman d...@willitsonline.com: It seems time to take a look at our anti-spam solution. Â Currently we are looking to replace out Barracuda due to ongoing issues with the box that after several attempts to work with Barracuda can not be resolved. Â Barracuda is helpful but like to point at other things like DNS and unrelated stuff. Â In the end they log into the box after wasting time so something to kick the box and we are good for an undetermined amount of time. The Barracuda gives us a few features that we like such as an in house box that we are not paying per email address or domain. Â Also the per user configurability is great for letting users independently control their white and blacklists. In a nutshell what products should we look at that offer us similar features as the Barracuda box. You can roll your own with Postfix and a few addons. After looking at the configuration options for a lot of the Postfix addons, you come to the realization that with a few hours of work, you can have all of the software tools used by the Barracuda internally, and have root access to the box to fix it yourself when it goes south, instead of waiting on them. You can also throw in things like redundant hard drives, and redundant power. How a company can market a $3k+ device with a single IDE drive in good conscience is beyond me. I can't find the link right now, but there is a package that provides users with an accessible, configurable quarantine, just like the Barracuda. I'll post the link as soon as it turns up. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] POE Switch box
Looking for recommendations on a 10+ port POE switch that will do up to 24volt. Prefer remote manageable with options to switch power on and off per port (remote reboot per port). Thanks in advance! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box
Great find one the Inscapedata product!! That's exactly what I'm looking for!!! A POE switch and converter modules are definitely an option, but it kinda defeats my purpose (getting rid of all my POE adapters running up a tower). -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:39 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box Fyi... The other options is to use a standard POE switch (802.3 af) and use these module to convert the voltage.. http://www.shireeninc.com/products/poe/extractor/ Regards Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box I think you are looking for something like this.. http://www.inscapedata.com/lps.htm Regards Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] POE Switch box Looking for recommendations on a 10+ port POE switch that will do up to 24volt. Prefer remote manageable with options to switch power on and off per port (remote reboot per port). Thanks in advance! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box
From reading the specs, it appears that it can provide 1 DC power plus 2 POE power outputs. I may be wrong though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:29 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box On the Shireen unit, why are there 3 data jacks and a coax power jack? Jason Hensley wrote: Great find one the Inscapedata product!! That's exactly what I'm looking for!!! A POE switch and converter modules are definitely an option, but it kinda defeats my purpose (getting rid of all my POE adapters running up a tower). -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:39 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box Fyi... The other options is to use a standard POE switch (802.3 af) and use these module to convert the voltage.. http://www.shireeninc.com/products/poe/extractor/ Regards Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:05 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE Switch box I think you are looking for something like this.. http://www.inscapedata.com/lps.htm Regards Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:47 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] POE Switch box Looking for recommendations on a 10+ port POE switch that will do up to 24volt. Prefer remote manageable with options to switch power on and off per port (remote reboot per port). Thanks in advance! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.16/2241 - Release Date: 07/16/09 05:58:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Service in Pomona, MO?
We can look at it. We'll get real close to there at least. www.jaggartech.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Aaron D. Osgood Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Service in Pomona, MO? Can anyone provide service to County Road 4750 in Pomona, MO 65789? Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 207-781-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com AOLIM: OzCom1 ICQ: 206889374 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net Blog: http://streamlinesolutionsllc.blogspot.com/ http://www.streamline-solutions.net http://www.WMDaWARe.com Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] AC/DC power conversion
Anyone know of a board or something similar that has both and AC and a DC input, will do DC output up to 24v (preferably adjustable but not required), charges the batteries while AC is on, and has automatic failover to DC source if AC power goes out? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion
We actually have equipment that has a board with it that does serial communication with a watchdog that also does AC and DC input to 18volt output. Sweet board, but there are issues with the serial communication, the price is too high, and it's proprietary so it will only work with this certain manufacturer's equipment. We need this to install equipment on power poles and give battery backup while keeping our physical footprint down as small as possible. Hate to put a UPS on a power / light pole. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion Get two AGM 12v trojan batteries wired in series. Get a tripplite inverter/charger made to have 24v dc input. Now you have ac out with battery backup and a charger, and 24v dc battery out. That's more than you need (due to ups function with ac out) - sounds like a charger on the battery bank with your radios feeding from it with low voltage cutoff is all you need. Has anyone done that? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Scott Dwenger sc...@linked-llc.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:29 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion Have you checked out Altronix www.altronix.com as they make a wide variety of power supplies/chargers. Not so sure if they have on with the dual AC and DC input. Scott From: Jason Hensley Sent: Thu 7/23/2009 12:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion Anyone know of a board or something similar that has both and AC and a DC input, will do DC output up to 24v (preferably adjustable but not required), charges the batteries while AC is on, and has automatic failover to DC source if AC power goes out? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion
Altronix lead was perfect - found what I'm looking for right here: http://www.altronix.com/index.php?pid=2model_num=SMP3PM -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Dwenger Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion Have you checked out Altronix www.altronix.com as they make a wide variety of power supplies/chargers. Not so sure if they have on with the dual AC and DC input. Scott From: Jason Hensley Sent: Thu 7/23/2009 12:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] AC/DC power conversion Anyone know of a board or something similar that has both and AC and a DC input, will do DC output up to 24v (preferably adjustable but not required), charges the batteries while AC is on, and has automatic failover to DC source if AC power goes out? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance
Would be just as cheap to move swap polarities. We've found the H-Pol is MUCH more reliable here for us. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8. With a 17dBi 120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to achieve? I can get 6 mile Off of another sector on this same tower with 2.4. Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:26 AM To: li...@stlbroadband.com Cc: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW. That point was actually clarified on the FAQ list posted. Thank You, Brian Webster St. Louis Broadband wrote: Humm, not what I am reading into it. Lol, maybe I have read it too many times... ;-) Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:41 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: li...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW. It's really 40% of the homes passed by the applicants designated service area. Same rules apply for the percentage of households who have access to broadband. The percentage is calculated over the area designated by the applicant as their complete project area. The only real chance you have to challenge is on the applications that come in as unserved, but even then the RUS and NTIA have said they will reserve the right to then convert that application to an underserved one. Thank You, Brian Webster RickG wrote: Is that 40% of homes passed or 40% of LOS? On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM, St. Louis Broadbandli...@stlbroadband.commailto:li...@stlbroadband.com wrote: They will be posted, for 30 days, on the NTIA site during their due diligence phase. Any ISP that contests will have to provide the proof that they have a 40% take rate. Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadband.comhttp://www.StLouisBroadband.com 314-974-5600 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW. And on that note, where can you find a list of applications? -RickG On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mike Hammettwispawirel...@ics-il.netmailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: If someone comes in and undercuts you, it's your fault for not protesting their application. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.commailto:k...@wavelinc.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:51 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW. Yesterday there was a broadband stimulus seminar in Columbus, OH featuring Senator Sherrod Brown, ConnectOhio.org, USDA Rural Development. I went with an open mind and left not wanting anything to do with this free money to be had. The government is trying to get as much control out of the ISP's that take this money as they possibly can. The reporting requirements for ISP's that take this money is a huge burden. This makes FCC Form 477 look like a walk in the park compared to what they want to know. There are about 30-50 things that they want you to report on and some of it is just crazy. I can't list it all but they basically want to know what brand of toilet paper and how much of it you use per customer.. And this will apply to your entire existing infrastructure that was in place before you took the money. They can come in and look at all your confidential records anytime they want. They can even change the rules years down the road and possibly tell you what to charge your customer per month to what they think is fair. They can also tell you how to do your QoS and what you can and can not block. This sounds like the same deal with the bank bailouts from last year that once they took the money and found out what role the government wanted to do with them that they wanted to give it all back but wasn't allowed. The majority of the attendees once we got into the workshops and started talking among each other was that they don't want anything to do
Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz
I think we all know that. The question is how to find out if someone is using that spectrum illegally. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:37 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz Only state, county and municipal entities can be a 4.9 GHz license holder. Non-governmental public safety organizations can use the spectrum under the umbrella of a license holder. For example a private ambulance service can request the use of 4.9 GHz from a county sheriff's department who is a license holder. There is NO provision for the use of 4.9 GHz outside of public safety. A private, non public safety company cannot use the spectrum in any way even if they are providing service to a government public safety agency. Best Regards Mark W. Crabtree Director of Sales Direct Line (858) 642-2727 Main Line (858) 450-1220 ext 3027 Blackberry (858) 334-8358 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 4.9 Ghz I have been asked by some folks in an adjoining state how they would find out if a group is using 4.9 for their for-profit backbone, while they provide space for public safety on the 4.9 system also. Any ideas? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Throttle
We throttle at the CPE where we have the ability. Our reasoning is that the less traffic there is hitting the AP, the more users we can put on it, and the better experience everyone has. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Throttle Question: Which is better? Throttle the cpe at the cpe or at the router? Currently we have a router setup at each tower site and do bandwidth limiting on it with simple queues and the users ip. But we want to setup our billing system so the office help can change packages and we just have it login to the ip in billing and automatically run a script to set the bandwidth throttle. But is the a disadvantage to limiting at the cpe vs. the tower? Thanks, John Buwa Michiana Wireless WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network
We use Dude for monitoring, but we don't do Canopy. But, looks like it works well with Canopy: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=8t=13041 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 11:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network I tried for a few nights to get Cacti to graph Canopy stuff. I got bits and pieces but never everything that I wanted. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: They exist -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network Big list. Noticed no Canopy on there. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.comwrote: Looks like it supports SNMP v1 and V2. While I have not specifically monitored Proxim, we have been using PRTG and we have yet to run across an SNMP device it could not monitor. You can test it free on a couple of devices without having to purchase anything. http://www.paessler.com Alternately Cacti will monitor just about anything as well and is open-source. This is the list of scripts and tmplates for Cacti: http://forums.cacti.net/about15067.html Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lakeland Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 8:24 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Monitoring Radios on Network Hi Boys and Girls If anyone has a solution they are using to monitor Proxim 5054 radios other than Proxim Vision please let me know. I am looking to monitor RSL, uptime, and anything else without choking the crap out of my networks. I know I had talked with someone from one of the lists before but lost that info. I am looking for a system that is doing this. Not a system that SHOULD do it. Worked with enough of those already. :-) Tnx. Offlist if you want. Bob Bob Moldashel Lakeland Communications, Inc. 1350 Lincoln Avenue Holbrook, NY 11741 800-479-9195 631-286-8873 Fax 516-551-1131 Cell WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] work order software
We use Wombat that is built in to Platypus. Inexpensive is a relative term :-) For us, it's well worth the $99/mth that we pay for it. For others, that may not be worth it at all. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 11:53 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] work order software I'm looking for an inexpensive work order management solution. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School
Sonicwall has some outstanding products as far as an all-in-one appliance for firewall, content filtering, spam, virus, etc etc. I have one in place for a school and our local library. Make sure you get one with enough horse-power. A small school may work fine with a TZ-200 or TZ-190, but you get very large, and you will quickly end up needing more than that. Be glad to quote you out one if you needed. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:35 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School I need a web content filter for K-12 school. Paid Subscription ok. Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement. Need asap. Thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Anyone needing a good network admin / installer / wear any number of hats kind of guy :-)
I have someone looking for a change that would make a great employee for someone. I don't have an opening right now and I don't think he wants to stay in this area anyway. Very flexible on relocation. If you're needing someone, please let me know and I'll put you in touch with him. Offlist please. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Anyone needing a good network admin / installer / wear any number of hats kind of guy :-)
Thanks to all that have replied. I'll pass info along to each of you soon. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Anyone needing a good network admin / installer / wear any number of hats kind of guy :-) I have someone looking for a change that would make a great employee for someone. I don't have an opening right now and I don't think he wants to stay in this area anyway. Very flexible on relocation. If you're needing someone, please let me know and I'll put you in touch with him. Offlist please. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Client Internet Filtering Upgrade - WAS: Content Filter Suggestion for School
On this same subject, anyone offering upgrades for filtered Internet service to their clients? Anyone using OpenDNS to do this? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ccrum Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:29 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School OpenDNS is approved for this...best thing is it is free. Cameron Scott Carullo wrote: I need a web content filter for K-12 school. Paid Subscription ok. Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement. Need asap. Thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Client Internet Filtering Upgrade - WAS: Content Filter Suggestion for School
Kinda what I was thinking was that if they wanted to utilize the filtering then we would assign them DNS servers specific for OpenDNS, otherwise, they would get normal service. This could easily be done at the CPE / Authentication level with PPPoE. Now, the issue would be like Josh mentioned, if they had manual DNS servers configured in their computer. We would definitely have to intercept that traffic and redirect all DNS queries to the OpenDNS servers. Just a thought. I have, in the past, had clients request this service. Been awhile but thought that could be one more value-add that we could have in the box to help bring a little more revenue in. Anyone used Untangle in an app like this? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Internet Filtering Upgrade - WAS: Content Filter Suggestion for School FYI.. Not every site will want to have the same filter settings. Since you can define multiple networks in OpenDNS, the IP will have to originate from that network to get a specific set of content-filtering. If the request originates from the local DNS server, then you've just inadvertently applied those settings to everyone who might query that DNS server. So you would have to force these 'filtered' networks to only request DNS from OpenDNS servers, and make sure each client has a public IP. -IL Josh Luthman wrote: I just thought about how to get around this and I wanted to share my thoughts. If a location needs this filtering and you use opendns you'll want to drop all forwarded DNS traffic. Force everyone to use an internal DNS server which in turn looks up via OpenDNS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: On this same subject, anyone offering upgrades for filtered Internet service to their clients? Anyone using OpenDNS to do this? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ccrum Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 1:29 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Content Filter Suggestion for School OpenDNS is approved for this...best thing is it is free. Cameron Scott Carullo wrote: I need a web content filter for K-12 school. Paid Subscription ok. Please let me know what good products there are for this requirement. Need asap. Thanks... Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today
Re: [WISPA] Ap that can connect to wireless ap and then rebroadcast
This is not the same as WDS. The duo will give you a true repeater type setup where both sides get full possible bandwidth. Have to carefully plan your channels though if both sides are in the same band. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ap that can connect to wireless ap and then rebroadcast Engenius does this. I don't like doing it at all but as a last possible solution it works. On 8/18/09, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Grab a Deliberant AP Duo, have one side connect as client and other as AP. Works beautifully. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:56 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Ap that can connect to wireless ap and then rebroadcast I am looking for a solution to extend the range of our current ap(Tropos,Colubris.) setup without having to get high dollar equipment. I have several apartment complexes where users are not getting enough signal, and wondering if anyone has a cost effective solution for a wireless repeater. I have used some ruckus 2211 dz(work great), but the cost on those is too much for what we are doing. Thanks for any suggestions. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ap that can connect to wireless ap and then rebroadcast
Grab a Deliberant AP Duo, have one side connect as client and other as AP. Works beautifully. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:56 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Ap that can connect to wireless ap and then rebroadcast I am looking for a solution to extend the range of our current ap(Tropos,Colubris.) setup without having to get high dollar equipment. I have several apartment complexes where users are not getting enough signal, and wondering if anyone has a cost effective solution for a wireless repeater. I have used some ruckus 2211 dz(work great), but the cost on those is too much for what we are doing. Thanks for any suggestions. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650
I need a backhaul link outside of 2.4 and 5.8. If I put together a Mikrotik system, say an RB600 with an Xr3 and put a 20db Grid on each end would that be legal? Admittedly I'm not up to speed on what is and is not allowed in 3650 as far as power output, etc etc. This would be a short backhaul - 2 miles or less. Along these same lines, can I build a PtMP 3650 system with these same type specs? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650
I know it works, but will the FCC come crashing down on me if they find out I have these in place? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650 I personally am avoiding 3.65 and MT. Ligowave and an80 are what I am going to do. I do know it works, though. You have to find the cable that matches 5.8 frequency in MT to 3.65 in actual output. No support by MT (or even as much as an answer to my questions). On 8/20/09, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I need a backhaul link outside of 2.4 and 5.8. If I put together a Mikrotik system, say an RB600 with an Xr3 and put a 20db Grid on each end would that be legal? Admittedly I'm not up to speed on what is and is not allowed in 3650 as far as power output, etc etc. This would be a short backhaul - 2 miles or less. Along these same lines, can I build a PtMP 3650 system with these same type specs? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650
Already licensed, so covered there. Will definitely register each one, covered there. Just making sure that the equipment I'm looking at won't cause problems with the FCC. Now, my preference would be to grab a Tranzeo starter kit, or to grab a Ligowave pair for this, but the ole' pocketbook is just a little tight right now and I've GOT to do something about my primary backhaul. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650 On Thu, August 20, 2009 2:51 pm, Jason Hensley wrote: I know it works, but will the FCC come crashing down on me if they find out I have these in place? As long as you're licensed (just a couple hundred bucks), and every 3650 endpoint is registered with the FCC (you have to register not just your towers, but also every customer in a PtMP setup, AFAICT), and you're within power guidelines, it shouldn't be a problem. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650
Any reason you're avoiding MT with 3.65? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik and 3650 I personally am avoiding 3.65 and MT. Ligowave and an80 are what I am going to do. I do know it works, though. You have to find the cable that matches 5.8 frequency in MT to 3.65 in actual output. No support by MT (or even as much as an answer to my questions). On 8/20/09, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: I need a backhaul link outside of 2.4 and 5.8. If I put together a Mikrotik system, say an RB600 with an Xr3 and put a 20db Grid on each end would that be legal? Admittedly I'm not up to speed on what is and is not allowed in 3650 as far as power output, etc etc. This would be a short backhaul - 2 miles or less. Along these same lines, can I build a PtMP 3650 system with these same type specs? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Launches Formal Probe of Wireless Industry
Seems to be more focused on the voice side of wireless - in particular the exclusive contracts of certain phone vendors with certain providers for certain high-end (and pretty cool) phones that the smaller cell companies don't have available to them (the Pre, iPhone, Curve 8900, basically all the good ones that have been run by the list this morning). But, hopefully this will open an opportunity for us to have one more voice out there. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:39 PM To: memb...@wispa.org; WISPA General List; WISPA's FCC Committee Subject: [WISPA] FCC Launches Formal Probe of Wireless Industry Interesting article. http://www.wirelessweek.com/article.aspx?id=171860 Perhaps we can use this opportunity to help the FCC and the public understand that: 1. Fixed wireless serves a different market than mobile (cellular) wireless. 2. Fixed wireless needs more spectrum (including TV White Space) and practical regulations to allow WISPs to provide broadband FIXED wireless Internet access effectively and profitably. jack -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com Twitter - wireless_jack WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Location agreement
This is an friendly one we did with another company that let us colo a tower on their place. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Location agreement I am going to plant a 60 foot pole on a fellow's farm. The plan is to light up a river valley which can't get fast Internet. Does anyone have a friendly agreement they've used and would share? Thanks, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Tower location agreement template.docx Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Location agreement
Oops, didn't mean to post that to the list. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Location agreement This is an friendly one we did with another company that let us colo a tower on their place. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Location agreement I am going to plant a 60 foot pole on a fellow's farm. The plan is to light up a river valley which can't get fast Internet. Does anyone have a friendly agreement they've used and would share? Thanks, Mike WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's
Hope this doesn't break the list rules... Anyone have a couple of Tranzeo or Deliberant 19db CPE's you are willing to part with at a reasonable price? Need something as a router - have older Tranzeo bridges in place now that don't seem to be talking well with a new Deliberant AP that we put up to replace a TR-6000 that was hit by lightning. Hate to buy new as each of these locations are trade-out customers. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's
Thanks for the responses. I've found what I need. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:48 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Need a couple of 19db CPE's Hope this doesn't break the list rules... Anyone have a couple of Tranzeo or Deliberant 19db CPE's you are willing to part with at a reasonable price? Need something as a router - have older Tranzeo bridges in place now that don't seem to be talking well with a new Deliberant AP that we put up to replace a TR-6000 that was hit by lightning. Hate to buy new as each of these locations are trade-out customers. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to customers) don't count My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less customers so looking at the raw 477 data then yes, it would appear that we may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. Interesting... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps This really ticks me off: Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while stationary and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless transmitter and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed spectrum and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless Internet Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not served by cable or wireline broadband networks. http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they are still defaming our industry. I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good idea that they hear from more of us. Thanks! Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ http://showmebroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com Rural Missouri Wireless Project. 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband SBA Certified WOSB STLBBLogo WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
Just a thought on that. I don't know where else they would be getting that data from unless they are just pulling it out of the air. With what I've got in the air right now I could do up to 15meg down. With the newer gear coming out we'll be able to do even more than that. Kinda irks me I guess. Victoria, did you get in on the Missouri Broadband Initiative? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps They are not getting it from my form 477. The only 1 Mbps service we offer is upload and that is with a 5 Mbps download. Victoria -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to customers) don't count My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less customers so looking at the raw 477 data then yes, it would appear that we may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. Interesting... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps This really ticks me off: Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while stationary and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless transmitter and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed spectrum and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless Internet Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not served by cable or wireline broadband networks. http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they are still defaming our industry. I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good idea that they hear from more of us. Thanks! Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ http://showmebroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com Rural Missouri Wireless Project. 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband SBA Certified WOSB STLBBLogo WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
I do - up to 10meg for residential where I got 5Ghz LOS. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27 AM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps They are also, not saying we can't deliver more than 1 Mbps, just that the speed is around 1 Mbps. How many WISPs provide residential service at speeds greater than 1 Mb? Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/640964 86706?ref=tsor follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess /* Nathan Stooke wrote: Hello, Right, but the problem is most WISPs do not fill out the Form 477 so what data do they have to go off. I have heard there are over 3,000 to 4,000 WISPs in the US, but only 400ish filled it out in 2008. That is what the FCC engineer said when I was speaking at the FCC. We cannot go to the FCC crying we need more spectrum or more power because we provide XX millions of customers service, if the form they REQUIRE us to fill out says we only have hundreds of thousands of customers. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to customers) don't count My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less customers so looking at the raw 477 data then yes, it would appear that we may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. Interesting... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps This really ticks me off: Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while stationary and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless transmitter and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed spectrum and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless Internet Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not served by cable or wireline broadband networks. http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they are still defaming our industry. I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good idea that they hear from more of us. Thanks! Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ http://showmebroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com Rural Missouri Wireless Project. 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband SBA Certified WOSB STLBBLogo WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
Hehe - no, I don't advertise it like that. They get the 10Mbps. What I meant by up to is that I have plans ranging from 768k to 10Mbps. My 10meg customers average 9-10 meg down and 8 or so up. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Ya... me too... I offer up to 100Mbps download by 1500Mbps upload. :) Gotta love up to services. Next time you are in Walmart buying milk, see if you can buy up to a gallon. ;) Travis Microserv Jason Hensley wrote: I do - up to 10meg for residential where I got 5Ghz LOS. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Martha Huizenga Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:27 AM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps They are also, not saying we can't deliver more than 1 Mbps, just that the speed is around 1 Mbps. How many WISPs provide residential service at speeds greater than 1 Mb? Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/640964 86706?ref=ts http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/640964 86706?ref=ts http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/640964 86706?ref=ts or follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess http://twitter.com/dcaccess /* Nathan Stooke wrote: Hello, Right, but the problem is most WISPs do not fill out the Form 477 so what data do they have to go off. I have heard there are over 3,000 to 4,000 WISPs in the US, but only 400ish filled it out in 2008. That is what the FCC engineer said when I was speaking at the FCC. We cannot go to the FCC crying we need more spectrum or more power because we provide XX millions of customers service, if the form they REQUIRE us to fill out says we only have hundreds of thousands of customers. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to customers) don't count My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less customers so looking at the raw 477 data then yes, it would appear that we may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. Interesting... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps This really ticks me off: Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while stationary and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless transmitter and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed spectrum and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless Internet Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not served by cable or wireline broadband networks. http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they are still defaming our industry. I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good idea that they hear from more of us. Thanks! Victoria Proffer - President/CEO StLouisBroadband.com http://stlbroadband.com/ http://stlbroadband.com/ http://showmebroadband.com/ http://showmebroadband.com/ ShowMeBroadband.com Rural Missouri Wireless Project. 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband SBA Certified WOSB STLBBLogo WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair
How do you get them open without breaking the cases? That's been our issue with the older stuff. Haven't gotten any of the newer radios though, so that may have changed now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair I've got a bunch of Tranzeo CPE CPQ units that are bad for one reason or another. I'm considering repairing them but not sure of the most economical way to do so. I could stick a bullet in there but will need a reverse MMCX to NF cable? Alternatively, I could throw in another radio card of some sort? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair
That's one of the reasons I try to stay away from them. That and a really bad batch of CPE's a few years ago. Can't beat their 3650 start kit pricing though!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair Am I the only one that simply can't stand the Tranzeo enclosures? I have had nothing but hell with that awful growth looking lump on the back. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Bill Gaylord bi...@torchlake.com wrote: One of my employees just discovered that nearly all of our bad Tranzeos could be fixed just by replacing the wireless card. R52 cards work fine on the Tranzeo board. Tranzeo just sees it just like the old card. So for the price of an R52 card you now have a new Tranzeo. Just reseal the case with a good sealent and you are in business again. We also do use the cases with Crossroads and 411s also when the Tranzeo board is dead. Makes for a very good radio. Bill Gaylord, COO COLI Inc. Kurt Fankhauser wrote: That's basically what we do with our out of warranty Tranzeo's, your screwed with the newer Tranzeo's because they don't have a cat5e jumper inside, their Ethernet mounts flush on the backplate. In my past experience some of the Tranzeo's are a crap shoot opening up. Some of them have silicone that releases very well, some of the others break right away. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair Consider Mikrotik RB411r $55 UFL Pull out Tranzeo Board, drop in some Adhesive Connectors plug-in the RJ-45 Connector Tranzeo Provided. Turn it on. Your lights of coarse wont be there unless you mount the board kind of weird but that should work for $60 Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired, and success achieved. - Helen Keller -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair I've got a bunch of Tranzeo CPE CPQ units that are bad for one reason or another. I'm considering repairing them but not sure of the most economical way to do so. I could stick a bullet in there but will need a reverse MMCX to NF cable? Alternatively, I could throw in another radio card of some sort? Thoughts? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
You know, if you really think about places like N. Korea, this is what the people live with - open ended regulation of what they can and can't do, government officials with the power to do whatever they want, government controlled censorship, etc etc - all in the name of preserving our country. This is just one more step down a very slippery slope that our country is on right now. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill For the last couple of years, that's how it has been. Took us more then a decade getting everything prepared for the lolcats though! On 9/3/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I thought it was to watch funny cat videos on YouTube. Have I been wrong on this??? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:58 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Exactly! One of the best reasons to have the Internet is to hack (with free speech) the government. Frank -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:02 PM Wasn't the internet made for the exact opposite of what this bill is trying to give him power to due? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
Can't the Mikrotik do LDAP auth? Haven't done it myself but seems like I remember seeing that it can. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller Gatespot or WirelessOrbit Not sure about your AD requirement though... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate in with Active Directory. Andy Trimmell Precision Data Solutions, LLC PDSWireless Quick and Simple Internet WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
It's really not that hard to code a web page that will allow someone to sign up, get their CC info and process it, and then stick their username / password into either your RADIUS server database or even create an AD user. Mikrotik can host the page or I think you can have the 'tik forward out to an external page. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving away free wifi somewhere. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then just have the MT look at your radius server. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server? --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate in with Active Directory. Andy Trimmell Precision Data Solutions, LLC PDSWireless Quick and Simple Internet WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Ligo Backhauls
My experience with the Ligo and Deliberant equipment is fantastic. The only time I've done anything with my backhauls (all unlicensed right now) in particular in the past 6 months is when I've made changes. It works, works great, and I don't have to worry. VERY rich feature set in their new stuff. Love it and wouldn't trade them for anything. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Shoemaker Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligo Backhauls Can I piggyback here? Is anyone using the Ligo unlicensed backhauls (or the licensed ones for that matter) in a true carrier-grade environment, where any amount of downtime is unacceptable? Can I expect Motorola grade performance out of them, or am I stuck with Trango-style bugs and quirks? Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Jayson Baker wrote: So what's the real deal with the Ligo licensed backhauls? Anyone on the list using them? Performance good? Problems? Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Authentication Methods
I think first off, why the concern over Mikrotik longevity? Do you not think the company will be around, or do you just not see it scaling (for whatever reason) to the level that you want / need? Personally, I'm not sure what you're looking for that's not already out there. Build a mikrotik concentrator with a good spec server (or two), dropin Freeradius Oas someone else already mentioned) and you should be good for a long time. Sent from Windows mobile device... -Original Message- From: Nick Huanca n...@gaw.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Authentication Methods Hi all, I currently am working on a project to develop a sustainable, manufacturer agnostic, easy to maintain and provision authentication system for our ISP. We have a mix of access points from Alvarion, Trango, MikroTik, Canopy, and others. We're currently running a distributed PPPoE model with MikroTik PPPoE concentrators. We're concerned about MikroTik's longevity, reliability and support as we move towards a more centralized PPPoE model where all our sessions terminate at a CO. We're looking to migrate over 1,000 customers, currently across 15 or so concentrators, to one single concentrator with either load balancing or redundancy. We're also trying to keep our decisions based around a future IPv6 implementation. My question is if anyone has had any experience in deploying large scale PPPoE with a centralized methodology. I have investigated the Open Source options such as rp-pppoe and others but have found that they don't offer any load-balancing or redundancy options, which are important considerations when moving to a centralized model. These packages also don't offer any type of integrated rate-limiting or burst-limiting based on RADIUS. Does anyone have any experience with other types of centralized authentication for customers that support IPv6 and include integration of rate-limiting/bursting? I have reached out to a Cisco integrator, ImageStream, Fine Point Technologies (http://www.finepoint.com/servpoet.html), and some others to find solutions. Thanks in advance, -- Nick Huanca WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
