Re: [WISPA] Cat5e modular plugs
Apparently they do - haven't found any yet, but they seem to have a pretty good selection: http://tinyurl.com/632pxz Anyone ever play with their 2-pc keyed versions like http://www.belfuse.com/Data/UploadedFiles/MN370054.pdf Tom DeReggi wrote: Would like to mention that there is not a one-fit-all solution for CAT5 jacks. Whats best depends on the Cable type. For example, For Shireen cable, Shireen has excellent one peice shielded plugs. Very easy to use. Perfect fit.. However, they do not work well with the Superior Essex Outdoor Direct Buriel cable, that has thicker individual insulation on the wires and stiffer wires. Its to hard to fit the 8 wires side by side into the plug. For this its often better to use a split connector, so you can feed it in, cut it, and then insert in connector body. But I hate these except when its necessary, becaue I always lose the inner insert peices :-( The Steward connector looked nice... Do they have a shielded version? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat5e modular plugs Those connectors are the only way to go. Google for Stewart RJ45 CAT5e Modular Connectors Randy Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I am looking for a certain type I ordered once. When you push the cable into the plug, and look at the plug from the end, all the solid color cables are on the top row and all the striped colors are on the bottom. It was real easy to look at and see it was correct. Now, all I can find is the plugs that are the wires line up in one row. Anyone know what they are called or where I can find them? brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5e modular plugs
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=7774 Shielded Stewart Connector WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5e modular plugs
Those connectors are the only way to go. Google for Stewart RJ45 CAT5e Modular Connectors Randy Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I am looking for a certain type I ordered once. When you push the cable into the plug, and look at the plug from the end, all the solid color cables are on the top row and all the striped colors are on the bottom. It was real easy to look at and see it was correct. Now, all I can find is the plugs that are the wires line up in one row. Anyone know what they are called or where I can find them? brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cat5e modular plugs
Ok, was trying not to plug one particular store, but yeah, we get them there :) Randy Brian Rohrbacher wrote: In case someone wants to see what they are all about. http://www.computercablestore.com/PDF/1-5E45LB.pdf Randy Cosby wrote: Those connectors are the only way to go. Google for Stewart RJ45 CAT5e Modular Connectors Randy Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I am looking for a certain type I ordered once. When you push the cable into the plug, and look at the plug from the end, all the solid color cables are on the top row and all the striped colors are on the bottom. It was real easy to look at and see it was correct. Now, all I can find is the plugs that are the wires line up in one row. Anyone know what they are called or where I can find them? brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation
Just modems or dslams? Randy Mark McElvy wrote: Well actually was referring to a DSL modem recommendation... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Yes. We use IAKNO wholesale DSL. They have been great. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Just wondering if there are others doing DSL along with their wireless? Would like a product recommendation and source. Thanks Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC geographic search
http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=alerts#71 Seems like there is always some sort of technical difficulties there. I enjoy getting pdf reports from ULS that are generated with the following footer: ReportMill Evaluation. Call 214.513.1636 for license :) Brian Webster wrote: Chuck, What exactly are you having problems with? Any FCC ULS searches have been a crap shoot for me. Much of the time I find that for any queries to work well, you need to be as simple as possible. It seems that if you give it more complex conditions to filter down the results, it gets funky if it works at all. Hit me off list and I may be able to help do it outside their web site. I can download their databases and use the GIS tools which is sometimes easier. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:08 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] FCC geographic search Anyone else having trouble using the FCC geographic search feature? I called tech support and they said there were known issues. But nothing further. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation
We've had really good luck with these guys, used them for years here in Qwest territory: http://www.dtnettech.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=1877 and http://www.dtnettech.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=1876 Tell them InfoWest sent you. Jerry Richardson wrote: We have been using the dlink --- airCloud Communications Jerry Richardson 925-260-4119 Sent Mobile -Original Message- From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Well actually was referring to a DSL modem recommendation... Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Yes. We use IAKNO wholesale DSL. They have been great. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark McElvy Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OT - DSL Modem recomendation Just wondering if there are others doing DSL along with their wireless? Would like a product recommendation and source. Thanks Mark McElvy AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Sprint and Clearwire
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Re: [WISPA] 3.650 Wimax in the field
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Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz - my 2 cents
that has all the carrier-class features of WiMAX 10. Carrier class network management systems that simplify provisioning and management of subscribers and base stations. Lol...I find this amusing...as the WiMAX specification overcomplicates the provisioning process, so you now have the need to purchase a system to simplify provisioning so it will work like a Canopy / Trango / Tranzeo / Alvarion =) Supply and Demand at its best =/ That said, if you are still interested in WiMAX after this cold dose of reality, we have plenty of radios in stock =) -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostations
them by for a while, but I don't think that is enough business to sustain the company forever. Travis Charles Wu wrote: Travis, I agree with you 100%...I still think there's a huge opportunity in the market right now that's being missed for a solid 2nd player (not Motorola Canopy) in the last-mile access space However, neither you nor I run Trango If you step back and look at the situation, this discussion is pretty interesting, coming from 2 people who really know Trango well-- we were their largest distributor back before they got rid of the channel, and you probably operate one of the largest Trango networks now That said, you've started building out your network with different access solutions, and we're doing other stuff It looks like we've both moved on... -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostations - question
There are some apples / oranges differences between Tranzeo and Nanostation that Tranzeo really ought to trumpet more. Things like firmware rollbacks, built-in RAID file systems, etc. And they have had a lot more time to work out a lot of bugs and irritations. All of mine just work. Oh, and fcc-approved 5.4 :) They seem to be at or near the end of their development timeline though for the current product line. So on the surface, feature-wise, NS does trump them. I just don't trust them yet. My first experience with the NS5 in a PTP link was not the best. Eventually a beta firmware helped stop it from locking up randomly after a few days. Not something I'd use for another year or more for a critical client. Randy Charles Wu wrote: snip That said, getting into the world of Wi-Fi CPE - for anyone who is not running a proprietary protocol, it seems that the current market leader is Tranzeo, however, looking at their site, it seems that their value-line (SL2) product still goes for about $130 and doesn't even have ½ the features of the Nanostation and AirOS /snip WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?
Here's one situation where solar worked out for us. We're on a water tank about 200' from power. The cost of the trenching (lots of rocks) and power hookup was more than the solar equipment I'd need for this small POP. But I agree, solar just isn't easy to cost justify yet. Now if we could just turn some of this dang heat in St. George to power somehow http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-06/uou-asw060107.php Randy Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: I have been doing solar powered radio sites for 25 years. I will never do one where commercial power is available. Not sure how folks buying panels at $5/watt can think this is a good deal compared with 7 cents per 1000 watts. - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charles N Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners? Charles N Wyble wrote: We are looking to deploy several hundred radios as well for a large scale private network, and want it to be resilient as possible. This includes power and back haul connectivity. Solar looks to be a good backup power option, and with the price of everything increasing perhaps a good primary option? Yeah, apparently people have been doing the math on the power required and the amount saved, and apparently it's significant. Not sure how they can know this without looking at specific equipment, but apparently it's worth seriously looking into, in their opinion. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB333 heat
Ow, definitely don't want to install those here in St. George. It gets down to 95 around midnight... Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, With temps now hitting 95F in the late afternoon, we are seeing several RB333 boards shut down and/or reboot. Once it cools down they go back to running fine. We have seen 5 boards out of 50 we have installed fail. They are all in DCE cases. Just wanted to share with everyone in case they are seeing strange problems with these boards. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 PtP equipment
Is their 900 mhz stuff fcc certified? Randy Bo Ring wrote: LigoWave is planning one, but has not announced any details. This is from their website: LigoPTP devices provide high throughput, Point-to-Point connectivity for backhaul applications on a variety of frequencies. With LigoWave's proprietary software mechanism utilizing Selective Repeat ARQ technology (TDD), LigoPTP devices enable actual TCP throughput of up to 70 Mbps. Current products are available in 5 GHz and 900 MHz connectorized and integrated antenna models, but stay tuned for our PtP offerings in the 2.4 GHz and 3.65 GHz spectrums! I have been impressed with the price/performance of the 5 G and 900 stuff so far. On Jun 30, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: I think we had a thread on this awhile back, maybe not, but is there anyone offering a 3650 PtP product? Is there enough interest in this to maybe prompt a manf. to get busy on this? For me, I need a move my backhauls out of the messy and noisy 5ghz and this would be ideal. I don't have any short term plans to start doing 3650 PtMP, and honestly probably won't for awhile - but that could change. Whatcha think guys? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Bo Ring Account Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 630-743-1162 • office: 312-205-2515 16W235 83rd Street, Suite A, Burr Ridge, IL 60527 • tel: 773.667.4585 fax: 773.326.4641 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MSOs investing heavily in wi-fi rollouts
Can you elaborate on what type of contracts were rendered unenforceable exactly? Randy Tom DeReggi wrote: PS. Those contracts were jsut rendered uninforcible (not grandfathered) based on recent legislation, from my understanding. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Tom Sharples [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MSOs investing heavily in wi-fi rollouts We've done a fair number of these too, by adding a second radio on 2.4 for wifi access on the back of our 5Ghz surveillance networks. The biggest issue has been that many of the multi-tenant facilities have onerous long-term (e.g. 3-year) contracts in place with Comcast that have to lapse before they can offer wifi to their tenants. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MSOs investing heavily in wi-fi rollouts We've done a lot of condos. For free wifi, a 2.4 mesh network like open-mesh covers most decent sized condos (~100 units) for less than a grand. Then you can charge $5/unit, blow away the cable company and have the thing paid back in 3 months. We also install pay on demand which has had moderate success - a 120 unit apartment condo building, $9.95/wk, $19.95/month, we get about 10-15 signups a month and Meraki sends us a check minus their fee. Still takes a year or so to pay it back but its really been a zero maintenance building minus the occasional person who can't get their wifi working at first. - Original Message - From: Rogelio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] MSOs investing heavily in wi-fi rollouts One trend I'm seeing is for cable companies to purchase a ubiquitous wifi infrastructure in new areas. These numbers aren't too far off from some numbers I saw yesterday: --$50K to put in ubiquitous wifi for a time share condo (retail is way more, like $70K; but MSOs get discounts) --$20/mo for each unit --$20/mo * 100 units * 12 months = $24,000/year in revenue the cable cable company can ear = paid off equipment in approx two years Anyone else seeing those numbers / trends? In fact, it seems as if bringing cable companies into the deals has been a sure way to close these large purchases in some cases. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] NASA Worldwind
Be sure to check the birds eye view on maps.live.com. Where available, it's VERY helpful. Rogelio wrote: Mike Hammett wrote: maps.live.com seems to have the best pictures. Unfortunately, they've been quite dated in my experience. Usually this doesn't matter, but lately I've seen times when buildings from six months ago are still in their satellite data. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] User check program
Looks good. Just one question: where are you pulling the mail server ip address from? In our case, we can't assume our users are on the same software (outlook/windows mail). Some have thunderbird, others (gag) Incredimail Randy Larry Yunker wrote: How's this one look? I thought I'd put something together to be used as a user check program. It's fully functional now, but I need to build an ini file reader to hold each ISP's individualized settings I'll probably knock that out on Tuesday. then I'll try to publish it. If anyone sees something they would like changed/added, let me know. Regards, Larry Yunker Network Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 6:54 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] User check program Hi, I was wondering if anyone has written or seen a program that would do some basic connectivity checking for customers? I had the thought today that it would be really cool to have a simple program people could download on their PC and then run that would do things like: (1) Ping to our backbone router via IP address (showing latency results as well) (2) Ping our main DNS servers via IP address (3) Ping a domain name (4) Ping our main email server (5) Ping the customers default gateway (6) Show their configured IP address (both on the machine and on the Internet) (7) Speed test to our backbone (maybe just FTP a file from a local server and compute the time vs. file size?) (8) One additional button that would send all the results via email to whatever email address they put in. It would need to be a nice, pretty interface with a single button that says Start. Then the results could show a Green Light for each item that was OK or a Red Light if there is a problem. It would also be nice to have your company Logo and phone number on the interface. Is anyone up for this task? I would be willing to pay to have something written, unless there is already something close out there? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] User check program
For now, could we have the option to just leave that out? Larry Yunker wrote: Right now the app is configured to pull the email server address to be tested from the ISP's INI file. I'm not testing to make sure that the mail software settings are configured correctly. I'm just pinging through to a predefined server address. In fact, I'm not even checking to see if the customer can connect to a POP3, IMAP, or SMTP port. Of course, checking email client settings wouldn't be a bad idea for a future release but I'd need some suggestions as to how to identify such settings given the diverse set of client applications. Ideas? - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] User check program Looks good. Just one question: where are you pulling the mail server ip address from? In our case, we can't assume our users are on the same software (outlook/windows mail). Some have thunderbird, others (gag) Incredimail Randy Larry Yunker wrote: How's this one look? I thought I'd put something together to be used as a user check program. It's fully functional now, but I need to build an ini file reader to hold each ISP's individualized settings I'll probably knock that out on Tuesday. then I'll try to publish it. If anyone sees something they would like changed/added, let me know. Regards, Larry Yunker Network Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 6:54 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] User check program Hi, I was wondering if anyone has written or seen a program that would do some basic connectivity checking for customers? I had the thought today that it would be really cool to have a simple program people could download on their PC and then run that would do things like: (1) Ping to our backbone router via IP address (showing latency results as well) (2) Ping our main DNS servers via IP address (3) Ping a domain name (4) Ping our main email server (5) Ping the customers default gateway (6) Show their configured IP address (both on the machine and on the Internet) (7) Speed test to our backbone (maybe just FTP a file from a local server and compute the time vs. file size?) (8) One additional button that would send all the results via email to whatever email address they put in. It would need to be a nice, pretty interface with a single button that says Start. Then the results could show a Green Light for each item that was OK or a Red Light if there is a problem. It would also be nice to have your company Logo and phone number on the interface. Is anyone up for this task? I would be willing to pay to have something written, unless there is already something close out there? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] User check program
By the way Larry, Thanks! Randy Larry Yunker wrote: Right now the app is configured to pull the email server address to be tested from the ISP's INI file. I'm not testing to make sure that the mail software settings are configured correctly. I'm just pinging through to a predefined server address. In fact, I'm not even checking to see if the customer can connect to a POP3, IMAP, or SMTP port. Of course, checking email client settings wouldn't be a bad idea for a future release but I'd need some suggestions as to how to identify such settings given the diverse set of client applications. Ideas? - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] User check program Looks good. Just one question: where are you pulling the mail server ip address from? In our case, we can't assume our users are on the same software (outlook/windows mail). Some have thunderbird, others (gag) Incredimail Randy Larry Yunker wrote: How's this one look? I thought I'd put something together to be used as a user check program. It's fully functional now, but I need to build an ini file reader to hold each ISP's individualized settings I'll probably knock that out on Tuesday. then I'll try to publish it. If anyone sees something they would like changed/added, let me know. Regards, Larry Yunker Network Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 6:54 PM To: WISPA General List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] User check program Hi, I was wondering if anyone has written or seen a program that would do some basic connectivity checking for customers? I had the thought today that it would be really cool to have a simple program people could download on their PC and then run that would do things like: (1) Ping to our backbone router via IP address (showing latency results as well) (2) Ping our main DNS servers via IP address (3) Ping a domain name (4) Ping our main email server (5) Ping the customers default gateway (6) Show their configured IP address (both on the machine and on the Internet) (7) Speed test to our backbone (maybe just FTP a file from a local server and compute the time vs. file size?) (8) One additional button that would send all the results via email to whatever email address they put in. It would need to be a nice, pretty interface with a single button that says Start. Then the results could show a Green Light for each item that was OK or a Red Light if there is a problem. It would also be nice to have your company Logo and phone number on the interface. Is anyone up for this task? I would be willing to pay to have something written, unless there is already something close out there? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations
Well, let's ask! :) I assume part-15 rules are written quite a bit differently on this matter than part-90, but hey, why not ask? Randy Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100% FCC certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would just have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote: *Response: * Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID label is attached on the outside of the final product. However, if your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final product, then you must apply for an original FCCID. WOW! I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and 5gig. I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC views in other bands that are NOT licensed. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations (was: Rapid Link Launches WiMax)
/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations
Thanks for the clarification on the cards. Any hints on getting someone at UBNT to talk to you? My emails, private forum messages, etc. have been ignored. I understand they are completely buried with NS2 / NS5 demand, but come on... :) Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been in contact with UBNT for some time.The modular approval specifies the antenna to be used, and it is, according to both the FCC ( email from the FCC in response to an inquiry ) and UBNT entirely legal to use with any OS that properly operates the card. So, yes you can grow your own, and if nothing else, you simply use the FCC ID on the card itself as your FCC ID...If you wish to have your own number on the box, you must apply to the FCC for your own number, and simply cite the this is unchanged from XX in your applicaiton. All stated clearly and unambiguously by the FCC personell. I hope this puts this argument to bed.Modular approval is just that. The module, ON ITS OWN, is approved and can be put in anything appropriate. Again, stated clearly by the FCC. BTW, on your license, you're required to put the ID of the equipment you're putting in place. In this case, it's the FCC ID for UBNT. BTW, current XR3's out now are not ACTUALLY the right card. I've been promised a pair from the first stickered and channelized batch. I would not deploy anything being sold by retailers right now, as they are pretty much engineering mules... Not optimized and not properly channel filtered and limited. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations (was: Rapid Link Launches WiMax) I had a feeling this would unleash a can of worms. I'm the one who registered the locations. My first location (my office rooftop) was done purely as an academic exercise to see what exactly was required. I had hoped the FCC would come back and say, you need to do X Y and Z before this is acceptable. I would have been fine with that and taken that into consideration in my feasibility study. They did not. Since then, there has been some further digging to clarify some questions that were brought up by this approval. From what I understand, using the XR3, MT and an 18dbi antenna (or smaller) is approved as far as Part 90 goes. See http://forum.ubnt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1451start=14 for clarification. Now, if you were to go out and SELL that bundle as a product, I would think there would need to be further licensing (http://www.fcc.gov/oet/ea/ ) to be approved. Hana Wireless ( http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/HW3.pdf ) is selling pretty much the same kit I made myself, but I do NOT see any OET approvals for them. I hear other WISPS are using the Hana units, but I see nothing of the sort registered in ULS, so I would think they are not legal. If I use any of these, they will be for PTP links. Because the XR3 was only approved for 18dBi antennas, and has a max output of 25dbm (see *http://tinyurl.com/4jpndg *, http://ubnt.com/downloads/ubi_mtik_power.pdf ) and assuming .5 dB loss for the jumper cable, at slow speeds we're only going to get a 42.5 dBm or 17.8 watts, not the full 20 watts allowed under the rules in a 20 mhz channel. If you want to run at full 54 mbps, you will only get 18 dBm on the radio, plus 18 on the antenna, or 35.5 dbm, or 3.5 watts. Not the ideal PTP solution. So is it moral or legal to run it? I'm glad this has stirred some debate and further clarifications. I'd like to see 802.11Y moved along and put into MT and the cards, that would help open up lots of other non-wimax possibilities. For now, it is what it is. I've seen nothing to indicate it is illegal. Is it unwise? I honestly am interested in hearing verifiable refutations to anything I've found so far. I want to do what is legal, as well as wise. Randy Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wrote: George...you can not plug-n-play components as I said earlier. It has to be certified as a system that makes use of a contention based protocol. Leon * George Rogato wrote, On 6/4/2008 11:22 AM: Thanks for explaining that Travis. I asked Jack Unger to look into this recently. There was a post somewhere else recently about 3650 use and I forwarded it to Jack to find out from the FCC if in fact it is the way the post read. I'd like to hear Jack's opinion based on what he has found out from the FCC. As far as using those cards, if they work in mt and star, then for most of us it's just add another card to the multi port board and go. It sounds a lot cheaper than I had expected. George Travis Johnson wrote: John, Here is what I have heard or read so far: (1) I heard that 3650 users that are conflicting will have
Re: [WISPA] FCC changes
Chuck, maybe you can shed some light on a thought I had here. With most of my telco contracts, there is not an early termination fee involved. Instead, I am contractually obligated to pay for the remainder of the contract, or in other instances something like 50-70% of the remainder if I stop the service before the end of the contracted period. Is that an FCC requirement that telcos handle early termination that way, or just a standard industry practice? Anyone do that in the WISP world? Randy Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: I AM a telco and want to know where the handouts come from. Real work? Plowing fiber through solid rock so I can earn $13.50/month providing basic service, I guess that isn't real work, right? BTW, show me where any tax dollars are used to support the telcos. That one has always eluded me too. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes If ISP's become fully regulated there will only be the telcos. Thanks for agreeing. Our survival DEPENDS on not being 'regulated'. Billions of dollars in government handouts without having to do any real work? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. I wanna be a telco! :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
We've been using 8e6 for ages. It just works. You don't have to put it in-line with your traffic or set it as a proxy, so it's not a single point of failure. It can sit on a switch monitor port and just sniff all traffic going through that switch. If it finds something to block, it will preempt/hijack the reply packet and redirect to a block page. We are using RADIUS and PPPOE, so we can even set it to only block certain users, and define their profiles (ie: some may need myspace, others won't). If you don't use radius, you can have it block by IP. It's costly to get started, but we've been quite profitable with it. Only downside is if you have a customer whose traffic doesn't go past the filtering box you can't filter him. That's where a software solution comes in. I think they have one now that actually talks to the main filtering box, but we haven't bothered with it. Randy rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I'm looking into providing a 'family friendly' option to our services. Would like to provide a solution to end customers that requires no software, just call us. I've used Dansguardian before, but it might be difficult to mantain a 'one size fits all' proxy for customers. Who out there is offering this type of service, and what are the simple (and profitable) ways of doing it?? Thanks, marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion?
Not exactly what you want, but we're using this: http://www.dinrelay.com/ Includes autoping, etc. Only downside I've seen so far is that the reboot functions don't work correctly if you use all your dc circuits in NC - normally closed mode. We do that at a solar site to conserve power. Without the relays being normally energized, it's very power-efficient. Randy Eric Albert wrote: Here are a few links I have archived on the subject. Something is sure to work for your application. Good luck! http://www.nighthawksystems.com/products.html (Pager controlled switch) http://www.specpower.com/dcsmart.asp http://www.specpower.com/dcsmart.asp Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion? I'm looking for an AC relay to reboot our PoE radios and I'll explain as best I know. Basically we have 24/48V DC along with AC at our sites but our remote reboot controllers only have AC outlets on them. What I'm looking for is the ability to reboot our DC devices also with a sort of relay plugged individually into each rebootable AC port that would reboot each DC line individually. Any suggestions? Thanks Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion?
We'll tell them you sent us. Looks perfect for so many things, especially temperature readings that we need here in the desert. Wish it had more relays, but we'll make do for now. D. Ryan Spott wrote: I use this device, with the remote monitoring built in for power and temp, it is a lifesaver. I even have it setup to email my phone when someone opens the door to the radio shelter some of my APs are at. Seems that those crazy HAMs have a habit of turning off power to your APs by accident sometimes. http://www.remotemonitoringsystems.ca/products.php V2 has pretty granular monitoring built into it for voltage. V1 is not so good at lower voltage measurements. The manufacturer has been GREAT via email for support. Hope this helps, ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion? Not exactly what you want, but we're using this: http://www.dinrelay.com/ Includes autoping, etc. Only downside I've seen so far is that the reboot functions don't work correctly if you use all your dc circuits in NC - normally closed mode. We do that at a solar site to conserve power. Without the relays being normally energized, it's very power-efficient. Randy Eric Albert wrote: Here are a few links I have archived on the subject. Something is sure to work for your application. Good luck! http://www.nighthawksystems.com/products.html (Pager controlled switch) http://www.specpower.com/dcsmart.asp http://www.specpower.com/dcsmart.asp Eric Albert Application Engineer Alvarion, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] AC relay to reboot DC (PoE devices) suggestion? I'm looking for an AC relay to reboot our PoE radios and I'll explain as best I know. Basically we have 24/48V DC along with AC at our sites but our remote reboot controllers only have AC outlets on them. What I'm looking for is the ability to reboot our DC devices also with a sort of relay plugged individually into each rebootable AC port that would reboot each DC line individually. Any suggestions? Thanks Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(43). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director
Tom DeReggi wrote: Davis, you'll pay $100 per year. $400 subs, 400. Let me throw in a devils advocate question here. If I have 400 customers and pay $400, do I get as many votes as an ISP with 10,000 customers who pays $10,000? If you look at this in the purely corporate sense, WISPA would be selling shares and each share gets a vote. Randy WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director
Just for the record, I'm a paying member.
Mark Nash wrote:
I agree with Butch.
$250 per year is a drop in the bucket to all of us, no matter how big or
small, ESPECIALLY when compared to the value you receive from free advice
and support
...and I can't tell you how annoying the "tell me why I should join WISPA"
rants are... (ryan, I'm not talking about your request this morning)...
Non members should not be adding to my inbox on this topic.
Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
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541-998-5599 fax
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From: "Butch Evans" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for Executive Director
On Wed, 21 May 2008, Randy Cosby wrote:
Let me throw in a "devils advocate" question here. If I have 400
customers and pay $400, do I get as many "votes" as an ISP with
10,000 customers who pays $10,000? If you look at this in the
purely corporate sense, WISPA would be selling "shares" and each
share gets a vote.
I'd think that a WISP is a WISP and only gets a single vote. Not
"selling shares" at all. Either way, I don't understand why input
on this topic is on the non-members list at all.
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Re: [WISPA] Dual WAN Router
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Routing Quite a few examples and ideas of how to do this. Maybe this would be a good place to start. If these look like more than you want to bite off, hire an expert, or buy a pre-configured unit like a Linksys. -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Plesk
We use cpanel, have been pretty happy with that. Randy Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We have been running a few plesk hosting servers for the last 3-4 years. About three weeks ago they changed their pricing model from a one-time, up front purchase of their software to a monthly lease. We need to add another server, but are not interested in a lifetime monthly lease option. What is everyone else running for domain hosting boxes that allow the customers full-control of only their domain? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Radio Vendor Suggestions
Can you tell us what you've been using in the past? Zachery Wolfinger wrote: Our company has used a single radio vendor exclusively for the last 6 years. My VP has instructed me to start trials with other vendors. Who do you all suggest for: Unlicensed 60+ Mbps up to 25 mile links 5.4 / 5.8GHz (same vendor should also offer 5.3 GHz for shorter links) same vendor should also offer a 900MHz solution for neighborhood coverage (2-3 mile radius) Thank you, Zak Wolfinger IT Director - Cyberlink 888-293-3693 Ext 4357 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Future
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Re: [WISPA] CMS Systems
Are you trying to get something to sell to web development customers, or for your internal use? What is your web programming skillbase? Mostly PHP? Any python? We've used Plone with quite a bit of success, but there is not much talent available who can run the backend very well. It's pretty resource intensive, but does most things right, and seems to be very good quality code. We've played with Mambo and it's later iterations / names. It's easier, lighter, but not on par with Plone for quality. Randy John Scrivner wrote: I know this is supposed to be a wireless list so I am sorry for this off-topic post. I know some of you run web design / hosting services along with your WISP. Can some of you share which CMS system you prefer and why? Also does anyone know if there is one CMS used by most larger enterprises? Price is a small consideration but I am more interested to know if there is a best of breed solution out there that most consider to be the one to use. I appreciate you all allowing me to step out of the normal wireless realm just this once. Thank you, John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Any Trango Command Line Experts?
Can you change the other side (the switch)? Randy Jenco Wireless wrote: Hi. I can't for the life of me remember how to change a Trango's Ethernet link speed. I need to set it to 10hdx due to interference related to icing. Real nice weather here in Ohio - freezing rain and lightning all in one package :-) Here is where I am at: from telnet window, typing eth link 10fdx and it returns: Eth0 100FDX detected ? I have tried every combination I can think of. Any suggestions would be appreciated!! Thanks, Brad H (Jenco Wireless, LLC) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fwd: [WISPA Approved Ad] Introducing BreezeACCESS EZ - The WISP Business Just Got EZ
Interesting. Is the cable between the IDU and ODU just standard cat5 outdoor, or is there something special about their CBL/BB wire? Is the indoor unit just a poe adapter, or is there more intelligence in it? Randy Mike Cowan wrote: Here is a link for the spec sheet on the product: http://www.wirelessconnections.net/images/BreezeACCESS_EZ_Product_Announcement.pdf Mike Subject: [WISPA Approved Ad] Introducing BreezeACCESS EZ - The WISP Business Just Got EZ X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-IMail-ThreadID: 154d0372ab31 Alvarion, Inc. is proud to launch BreezeACCESS EZ, an entirely new WISP line operating in the 5 GHz bands. EZ is designed from the ground up to provide small and rural WISPs what they need and want at a remarkably affordable price . no more than $255 per complete SU even in single quantities. What's makes EZ so special, besides the price? ** provides a universal multi-band subscriber unit (SU) to connect to any 5 GHz band EZ access unit (AU) so your installers carry only one part. You set the country code and you tell the EZ SU which bands and frequencies to scan. ** EZ uses OFDM technology to enable near and non-NLOS connections to maximize subscriber access in your cell. ** The SU comes complete with an integrated 17 dBi antenna and comprehensive RSSI LEDs in a unit that measures only about 8 inches corner to corner. PoE and mounting kit are included with every SU. ** EZ is RoHS compliant, certified to IP67 environmental specifications and is manufactured using ISO certified processes to provide you with the quality you expect from Alvarion. ** The rugged EZ AUs come in 5.3, 5.4 and 5.8 GHz versions and have extremely low wind loading. ** AUs use an external N connector and come complete with your choice of omni, 120, 90 or 60 degree sector. ** EZ features dual flash memory for safe and sure configuration and software downloads. ** EZ, when operating in 5.4 GHz, implements Alvarion's advanced intelligent DFS2. Alvarion is releasing EZ after testing by a number of your peers who do not run Alvarion-based WISPs. They loved the simplicity, ruggedness and performance and urged Alvarion to release EZ to the market right away. Try it and we think you'll agree that deploying excellent performance, revolutionary simplicity combined with Alvarion quality has never been so EZ. Find out complete details and order information about EZ from the following Alvarion-authorized EZ distributors: Wireless Guys [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 805.578.8590 Wireless Connections[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 419.660.6100 Winncom Technologies[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 440.498.9510 PCS Technologies[EMAIL PROTECTED] or 800.659.2170 Sincerely, Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 419-706-7348 Cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ATTN: BEN MOORE OF PACWIRELESS
That's better than the HR guys making a few changes :) Randy Pacwireless Marketing wrote: Sorry guys. We had an email issue this morning (IT made a few changes). We are back up and running now. Regards, Ben WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti NanoStations
Any idea if the 5ghz version will be FCC approved for 5.4? Randy Drew Lentz wrote: There was a really cool product release a couple of days ago regarding a new product by Ubiquiti called the NanoStation. I just received my first 2 and am going to run them through the ringer. I will have them (and the PowerStations) in our booth @ IWCE if any of you all want to swing by and check them out next week in Vegas. Hit me off list and I will give you the details. The skinny is that they are very inexpensive (MSRP $79) well built CPE units. They have a 2 GHz version and a 5 GHz version. http://ubnt.com/products/ns2.php http://ubnt.com/products/ns5.php -drew WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
That is news.. Perhaps one day they will post it on their firmware page for all of us to enjoy? :) Patrick Shoemaker wrote: FYI a sales rep from Trango just informed me that the TrangoLINK-45 has a newly released firmware that supports VLAN tagging on the management interfaces. It looks like this is what I'll be going with. Patrick, I'd love to use a B100 for this shot but a full link for under $2k is hard to pass up. After all, these are backup links that I would rather not dump a ton of money into. Patrick Eric Muehleisen wrote: I see. We do the same in this case. If only Trango would implement vlan in their multipoint products, life would be easier. -Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, each customer doesn't have a VLAN, only the special ones, then we install MikroTik usually. Basic Residential/Buisness applications are part of a untagged VLAN with Static IP addressing. Simple setup, but effective. -Cam Then how do you tag your customers after the CPE? Do you provide them with vlan capable switches? -Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not 100% I always use my Procurve switches for the VLAN and leave the Trango as a dummy bridge. Cameron Midcoast Internet After running the numbers, it does look like I can get some decent throughput out of this thing in 5.3 using the integrated antennas at 6.5 miles. Certainly better than the Canopy BH I'm using now. Another question: the sales page for the TrangoLINK-45 says it's VLAN aware, but there's no mention of VLAN configuration in the user manual. Is it possible to assign a VLAN to the management interface of these radios? Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Mike Hammett wrote: Responding to myself, I think the Orthogon can go to -7 and the Redline to -20 just for this purpose. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 I have no documentation present, but people with Orthogon and Redline have said their products can use large antenna. In a PtMP environment, yes 2 - 3 miles is probably all you can get. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 I did not think you could legally run 3 foot parabolics in 5.3./ 5.4. Are there 3 foot dishes FCC certified with radios in 5.3 / 5.4? I would like to see a URL to data on these radio / antenna combinations. I had always believed the lower power limits of those bands pretty much meant they were only worth using in 2 or 3 mile shots. Please enlighten me. Scriv On Feb 19, 2008 3:17 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can go 10 - 15 miles within EIRP in 5.3\5.4 in a PtP configuration. I believe 10 miles is with a 3' dish. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45 Oh yeah, one hop is 6.5 miles so 5.3/5.4 is out unfortunately. The other is 0.5 miles so I will probably run that in 5.3. There are a lot of weather radar towers around here that junk up 5.4. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Randy Cosby wrote: I've had some limited experience with them, and so far all is good. I'm using 5.4 channels, which is an added bonus for dealing with noisy canopy stuff. Fairly short hops though. Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I have two Motorola Canopy 20M backhauls running in 2.4 GHz that serve as redundant links between POPs. I am located in Maryland just outside of DC, and the 2.4 noise floor has crept high enough to require replacement of these backup links. I am looking at the TrangoLINK-45 radios to replace these and wanted to get some real-world feedback from anyone who is using this system. Any problems / bugs
Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK-45
I've had some limited experience with them, and so far all is good. I'm using 5.4 channels, which is an added bonus for dealing with noisy canopy stuff. Fairly short hops though. Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I have two Motorola Canopy 20M backhauls running in 2.4 GHz that serve as redundant links between POPs. I am located in Maryland just outside of DC, and the 2.4 noise floor has crept high enough to require replacement of these backup links. I am looking at the TrangoLINK-45 radios to replace these and wanted to get some real-world feedback from anyone who is using this system. Any problems / bugs / known issues? They will be colocated with Orthogon PtP radios as well as some Canopy APs, which are all running in 5.7. The Canopy APs and Orthogon get along great together running in the same band- am I wrong assuming the Trango product will have good enough receiver selectivity to get along with the other equipment too? It will likely be run H-pol with the other stuff on v-pol (except the Orthogon which uses both polarities via MIMO). Thanks, -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Small unmanaged switches
I have used these in a number of my pops without a single problem in uncooled (even no fans) enclosures. It gets up to 115+ here in the summer. http://www.ctrlink.com/eiba.htm Lots of power options (DC 10--36 V or AC 8--24 V, 47--63 Hz) Randy Cosby InfoWest Patrick Shoemaker wrote: I'm looking to purchase some small unmanaged switches (5 ports) to use at business customer locations to connect a Canopy CPE, a VoIP ATA, and the Netopia router we use for customer installs. I want something as simple as possible that is ROCK SOLID. No power cycling, no oops the switch locked up, no nonsense. It must be unmanaged and require no configuration (no MikroTik). And did I mention it must be reliable? Low power consumption is a plus so that the UPS powering the CPE, the switch, and the ATA lasts as long as possible. I'm currently looking at the Linksys SD205- does anyone have real-world experience with these? Thanks, -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT tools
Good point. Can you give an estimate of what you think it would cost? Anyone else out there interested enough in the feature to put a bounty on it, so a bunch of us can pitch in, Butch can get paid, and it can be released to the community? Personally, I do not use mikrotik for wireless (yet) but would be willing to pitch in. Randy Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Randy Cosby wrote: Not having played with scripting much, is this something that could be scripted? Hmm...I'll play with this a bit. Of course, as a consultant, whether the result of the work will turn out to be free is a function of how much time it takes to develop, if it can even be done. I am fairly confident that it can be done (sort of). -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc office: 435-773-6071 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
