Re: [WISPA] Prayers for Mac Dearman

[Stuart Pierce]

Mac Dearman, my brother, hot sauce my man, hot sauce.

On Mon, April 17, 2017 12:56 pm, John Scrivner wrote:
> I am certain he does not want any big attention about this but I am
> posting it anyway. Mac Dearman is having heart bypass surgery this
> morning. I know many of you know Mac on here so please say a prayer for an
> old friend to be healed. Mac was one of the founding members of WISPA and
> led the efforts to put Mississippi and Louisiana back together
> post-Katrina. He is still operating his WISP in Rayville, LA and he is a
> dear friend to me and many others. Thank you,
> John Scrivner
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT has horns too!

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Better hurry on the store.ubnt.com/airmax-beta

On Thu, February 23, 2017 9:40 pm, RickG wrote:
> But can you get them?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini 
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for startup suggestions

[Stuart Pierce]

Penny wise pound foolish.

Yes don't get caught up in the holy grail of wireless hype.

On Fri, February 3, 2017 1:20 pm, Jay Weekley wrote:
> Or that.  Or get caught up in bleeding edge, "holy grail" sales hype.
>
>
> Don Spaulding wrote:
>
>> Similarly, don't choose a product line just because it's expensive.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2017 7:48 PM, "Jay Weekley" > > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Don't choose a product line just because it's cheap.
>>
>>
>> Chadwick Wachs wrote:
>>
>>> We are a small co-op WISP and one of our goals was to publicly
>>> document what we do.  For some basic beginning info, take a look at:
>>> http://www.auwireless.net/blog/ 
>>>
>>>
>>> This is not to say this is the model or even the right way to
>>>
>> start a
>>> WISP. It is simply what we did. Some of it works, some of it was a
>>> mistake. One of our future challenges we will face is we built a fairly
>>> flat network. That works fine when we are small but as we
>> grow,
>>> it is not going to scale with us.  Think about where you want to
>> grow
>>> and don't box yourself in with hardware or topology decisions
>> early on
>>> that you will regret. But, don't over spend early on. Much of this
>>> stuff is cheap enough to "upgrade" after a year or so.
>>>
>>> Choose your RF vendor wisely... We field tested 5 different
>>>
>> vendors in
>>> our RF environment before choosing one that worked for us and was in
>>> our budget. Don't let someone else tell you which is the best
>> hardware
>>> because that is what they use. It may be great advice but I suggest
>>> testing. Most vendors or good suppliers will provide some demo gear
>>> for this purpose.
>>>
>>> This mailing list has been great to us for help. Use the
>>>
>> community and
>>> forum pages on the vendor sites as well.  And, I'd strongly suggest
>>> finding yourself a supplier you can trust and that will help you
>> make
>>> good decisions. Our supplier has run WISPs of varying size for
>> decades
>>> and has made a some mistakes as well as good decisions and is not
>>> embarrassed to share and advise us.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Mark Limehouse
>>> 
>>>
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am at the discovery and the beginning of research to start a
>>> WISP within my state (Wisconsin). My focus is to make this
>>>
>> into a
>>> solid business model that I can build and expand eventually.
>> I am
>>
>>> taking my time I want to do this right and address all potential
>>> pitfalls or "gotchas" that may be known from a technology and provider
>>> standpoint. Would anyone be kind enough to offer up
>> their
>>> suggestions or direct me to where I can obtain this kind of
>> detail?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
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Re: [WISPA] Charge for remote thermostat?

[Stuart Pierce]

Dish Networks will actually let you keep the equipment at your house for
$5 for service suspension


On Tue, January 17, 2017 10:24 am, Chris Fabien wrote:
> You want internet connected devices to work, you have to keep paying for
> your internet right? I don't know of any provider who has a super-slow
> plan for thermostats. I would tell them pay the normal rate, $50/mo is a
> LOT
> cheaper than a broken pipe right?
>
> We do offer "vacation hold" for $5/mo but that is service not active,
> just lets the equipment stay at the house.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Jon Langeler
> 
> wrote:
>
>
>> Customer wants to have control of their thermostat and heading south
>> for 3-6 months. I'm guessing they want a $5/mo connection. Suggestions
>> on how to handle or charge for this?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Precedence

[Stuart Pierce]

I set forth the point at a get together with the FCC in Gettysburg a few
years back that I thought it was a waste of time to register the CPE's.
The base station already spews forth the frequency in a certain direction
anyway.

That's when I realized I thought something else was afoot other than
frequency.

On Tue, December 27, 2016 4:41 pm, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 12/27/16 13:35, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>
>>
>> Since you have the license, you are entitled to put up more devices,
>> just not as Incumbent. So what you might want to do is pull the FCC's ULS
>> records in that area to see what registered devices the existing WISPs
>> have in the area you're looking to go into. It is possible that the
>> WISPs in question didn't all bother to register everything they
>> could have -- the number of registered devices in ULS strikes me as
>> awfully low. Iowa, for instance, shows 60 licensees, some of whom
>> register CPEs, some who don't.
>
>
>
> Or the WISP only registers the base stations, not the customers. How
> does the incumbent protection work in that case? Something like 4 miles out
> from the registered base station instead of the furthest CPE (since the
> CPEs were never registered)?
>
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Re: [WISPA] Installation sub-contractors - where to find them...

[Stuart Pierce]

Well some are not in there for things where you couldn't trust them, but
yeah, I understand. ;)

On Fri, November 25, 2016 6:20 pm, Chadwick Wachs wrote:
> The fact they need access into people's homes makes this a no-go...  But
> I
> like your outside the box thinking (no pun intended)!
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Stuart Pierce <spie...@avolve.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> lol, look who wants work release in the local jail, no really.
>>
>> On Fri, November 25, 2016 5:37 pm, Chadwick Wachs wrote:
>>
>>> We have been looking to add another wireless installer or two. We
>>> have been sub-contracting that work out and found our current people
>>> through some word of mouth. I have reached out to a few local
>>> independent satellite dish installers in the area but they either
>>> don't return calls or are not interested in microwave installs.  Other
>>> than full time staff, where does one go to find independent installers
>>> for hire? Our work for them is pretty simple so very little training
>>> is needed beyond climbing ladders and running wire.  Or, does anyone
>>> in the Colorado area have some recommendations for local installers
>>> looking for some extra cash or side work?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Installation sub-contractors - where to find them...

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lol, look who wants work release in the local jail, no really.

On Fri, November 25, 2016 5:37 pm, Chadwick Wachs wrote:
> We have been looking to add another wireless installer or two. We have
> been sub-contracting that work out and found our current people through
> some word of mouth. I have reached out to a few local independent
> satellite dish installers in the area but they either don't return calls
> or are not interested in microwave installs.  Other than full time staff,
> where does one go to find independent installers for hire? Our work for
> them is pretty simple so very little training is needed beyond climbing
> ladders and running wire.  Or, does anyone in the Colorado area have some
> recommendations for local installers looking for some extra cash or side
> work?
>
> Thanks,
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[WISPA] Canopy, Trango, Monopole for sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321454305083?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321455265706?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

More pictures and information on the web page.

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for pictures and more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, template rings, base lag bolts and 
barrel of hardware. Designed in accordance with TIA/EIA 222-F, slip joint tower.

On ground in Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, 
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[WISPA] Another monopole for sale

[Stuart Pierce]

Pictures of the hardware that came in the hardware barrel to put some fears to 
rest. My apologies for showing pictures of misc. parts that I also have on hand.

More pictures and information on the web page.

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for pictures and more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, template rings, base lag bolts and 
barrel of hardware. Designed in accordance with TIA/EIA 222-F, slip joint tower.

On ground in Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, 
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[WISPA] Tower Monopole For Sale It Is

[Stuart Pierce]

Figured speaking in Yoda would get more attention.

More pictures and information on the web page.

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for pictures and more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, template rings, base lag bolts and 
barrel of hardware. Designed in accordance with TIA/EIA 222-F, slip joint tower.

On ground in Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, 
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Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients

[Stuart Pierce]

Yes if you have a mikrotik box at your headend you can put in rules to 
intercept clients ip addresses. AFter the rules are put in you can just add the 
ip address to a list, they just enable/disable when they are behind or caught 
up.

Your headend mikrotik router can also serve as your bandwidth manager too.

-- Original Message --
From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 14 May 2014 13:23:01 -0700

How can I redirect slow pay clients to a Pay your bill web site.
Is there a inexpensive way to do this?
What do you suggest?
Thanx
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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

First come first serve.

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for pictures and more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, template rings, base lag bolts and 
barrel of hardware. Designed in accordance with TIA/EIA 222-F, slip joint tower.

On ground in Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, 
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Re: [WISPA] Favorite replacement for UBNT zip ties?

[Stuart Pierce]

NanoStation M-x's have two ethernet ports to power another device.

-- Original Message --
From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 2014 21:42:58 -0400

But that is exactly the point.  Been waiting for NanoBeam M2 for a while 
now.

Many locations, I don't need the extra gain or wind load.

Others, the Nano or Loco is less intrusive.

I simply see that having more gain choices is good...   In 2.4GHz we now 
have 8,11,18 and 24db in dual polarity, 16 and 20db in single polarity.

I would love to see a NanoBeam in M365.   Here we have 13db for the 
NanoStation, 20 db for the PowerBridg, 21db for the NanoBridge, 26db for 
the RocketDish.  The problem is, the PowerBridge M365 is crazy expensive 
and the NanoBridge M365 looks like cra...

--


On 4/28/2014 8:31 PM, timothy steele wrote:
 after nanobeam is out for a year or so I don't see why UBNT would 
 still push nanostations i'm sure they will make a few for people that 
 refuse to switch but after the new firmware comes out with nanobeam I 
 don't think anyone will want a NS unless they need 365 or 900


 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net 
 mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote:

 Because NanoStation's, Loco's, Rocket dishes, PowerBridges and
 NanoBeams all have a place depending on what you are doing?

 Even AirGrids and Bullets have value for some things

 --

 On 4/28/2014 7:05 PM, timothy steele wrote:
 Don't the nano beams come with hose clamps? Why still using the
 nano stations?
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 On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Joe Fiero joe1...@optonline.net
 mailto:joe1...@optonline.net wrote:

 +1

 One clamp, about a buck can save many service calls.

 Just because they put them in the box, it doesn't mean you
 have to use them.  Save them for the wiring and you get money
 back toward the hose clamp!

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *~NGL~
 *Sent:* Monday, April 28, 2014 6:19 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Favorite replacement for UBNT zip ties?

 Why not use stainless hose clamps.

 NGL

 *From:*Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com

 *Sent:*Monday, April 28, 2014 3:14 PM

 *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org

 *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Favorite replacement for UBNT zip ties?

 Those have never seemed like a good idea so I never tried
 them.

 I have a local source for cheap ties - wintronic aka
 WinElectric.  For good tower ties I love the TB.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Apr 28, 2014 5:51 PM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net
 mailto:b...@gowasabi.net wrote:

 Apologies for the mundane question.  Anyone have a
 preferred brand / source for replacements for the ~12
 plastic zip ties that UBNT packages with their AirMax gear?

 Zip ties of similar thickness from the usual suspects
 (e.g. Home Depot or Lowes) seem to only be 36 or longer,
 and their thinner ties embrittle too easily in sunlight.


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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

First come first serve for 8K or best offer.

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
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Re: [WISPA] Solar powered repeater kit

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The cost of shipping the panel no doubt, that's why I'm trying to find a panel 
supplier in Ohio. 

The panels I got put out voltage but evidently don't trip the sunsaver to go 
into charge mode. I took Sam's advice and got the batteries and sunsaver and 
with just two batteries I can run a TS, bullet, pico2hp, loco2 for at least a 
couple of days with no solar panel.

-- Original Message --
From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 08 Apr 2014 12:27:15 -0500

Should be roughly the same power consumption.  I used the spec sheets 
figuring the numbers would be higher than actual used.  The only expense 
that makes me cringe in this setup (used it twice now) is the shipping 
cost, it cost as much to ship a single panel as the cost of the panel.  
If I was doing a lot of these I could cut the cost down quite a bit just 
by ordering 5-10 panels.

On 04/08/2014 12:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 I measured a NSM2 a long time ago, it's 4-5 watts according to my amp 
 meter.

 I'm not doing a ToughSwitch, I'm avoiding them entirely.  I'll be 
 doing an rb750p.


 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net 
 mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:

 According to the spec sheets you are looking at 8W for the NS +
 5.5W for the NB and probably another 6W for the TS (only shows
 maximum consumption which would include all POE ports active) so
 about 20W total consumption.

 Running it in a 24V configuration hence 2 12V batteries. I figured
 more like 5 days on the batteries by the time you figure in low
 voltage cutoff and winter conditions.  I could have went with
 smaller batteries, but getting +40ah for $20/battery.  I've had
 problems with equipment acting flakey when running UBNT with 12V
 power.  My goal was as low maintenance as possible since the site
 is not easy to get to in the winter and did want to leave room in
 case I needed to add any equipment.

 The problem with sizing an all solar setup is you generally end up
 with overkill for 80% of the time since you are designing for
 crappy weather on the shortest days of the year with minimal
 sunlight and they tend not to be in places that it is easy to haul
 a generator to when your batteries die in the middle of a blizzard.



 On 04/08/2014 11:41 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 That looks like massive overkill, are you using a ~10 watt load
 or are you doing much more?  Quick math tells me the batteries
 would do 12 days on a 10 watt load.

 Do you find you need a 290 watt panel (though this also leads
 back to the question)?


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 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Sam Tetherow
 tethe...@shwisp.net mailto:tethe...@shwisp.net wrote:

 I have one up for 2 customers.  They paid the cost on the
 tower and solar setup, I put up the AP.  Pretty low
 maintenance, only issue I have on them is snow accumulating
 on the panels.

 Astronergy 290W 24V panel$280
 Morningstar SunSaver SS-10L-24V Charge Controller   $63
 MC4 cable $31
 Shipping $249

 Two deep-cycle RV battteries from Sams Club (120ah)  $250

 Wire the load out of the charge controller to the DC in on a
 Toughswitch put up a NanoBridge for the backhaul and a
 NanoStation for the AP.


 On 04/08/2014 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Has anyone deployed a solar powered repeater for a single
 customer?  For example, their house is in the middle of a
 forest but you can provide service at the end of their lane.

 This comes up here and there and I'm looking to put together
 a kit of Nanos, solar panels, battery and give the customer
 the price.  I thought I would ask here before reinventing
 the wheel.

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[WISPA] Time Warner Business Class Phone Service

[Stuart Pierce]

Has anyone tried and successfully backfed a Time Warner Business Class type 
voip phone service through their wireless link? If the power goes out the 
business has no internet or phone service even if they have a generator. In the 
event of a power outage I have generation and an internet connection and want 
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Re: [WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

[Stuart Pierce]

Sometimes I wish I could like email list posts.

-- Original Message --
From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 31 Mar 2014 20:45:35 -0400

That would work but I would probably drown in the tears or the crying 
would make me deaf!

:-)





On 3/31/2014 8:42 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

 That's why my pay period ends on a Friday and payroll isn't until the 
 next Wednesday...  I have all weekend and most of Monday to get 
 payroll into QuickBooks for direct deposit.

 We just use a spreadsheet instead of a timecard.

 On Mar 31, 2014 6:20 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net 
 mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:

 If they go straight to the customer then that's an issue.

 My issue is guys forget to fax the time sheets at the end of the
 day or they put them in the fax machine upside down.  So the
 bookkeeper either gets no sheets or blank white sheets of paper.
 This then requires someone to go to the warehouse to retrieve the
 sheets and a firedrill in the AM to do payroll and get the checks
 out to the warehouse.

 -B-




 On 3/31/2014 8:05 PM, Martha Huizenga wrote:
 How would you use this if you have techs that go straight to a
 client from their home?  we currently use a mobile app called
 time tracker. Each employee logs their time. At the end of the
 pay period they send it to me and I review and enter their time
 into payroll.
 This is better, I feel than paper, but is still some work.

 timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:
 What we had at my last job (  I've seen them at staples ) they
 work with RFID cards  evry time you tap Your card it
 automatically goes into QB

 I don't remember the brand but they do sell them at staples
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 On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Hass, Douglas A.
 d...@franczek.com mailto:d...@franczek.com wrote:

 Bob,



 Particularly if you do not have a supervisor who can sign off
 on time sheets each week, having a timeclock that can report
 to a central location is an absolute must. You still should
 have a supervisor reviewing the times each week and, ideally,
 having the employees sign off that they agree that the
 timesheet is correct. I am happy to talk to you about these
 issues off-list. Shoot me an email or give me a call.



 House for a timeclock, have you considered using something
 that would also be QuickBooks integrated? Here's one option
 among many:



 
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html
 
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html


 
 http://m.costco.com/Icon-Time-Systems-SB-100-PRO-Employee-Time-Clock.product.11264785.html




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 -- Original message --
 From: Bob Moldashel
 Date: 3/31/2014 5:39 PM
 To: WISPA General List;
 Subject:[WISPA] OT Time Clocks...

 OK This is a little off topic as far as wireless goes but

 I am looking for a time clock to keep track of employee time.
 Presently
 we are on the honor system (and I don't have a problem with
 that...just
 too much manual labor for the bookkeeper) and they mark down
 their own
 time on a sheet. At the end of the pay period someone has to
 retrieve
 their time sheets, fax them to the office, and then add up
 the time,
 enter into Quickbooks and then print payroll. The crews turn
 out at a
 remote site that is not part of the main office.

 Its time to work smarter not harder.

 I am looking for a time clock that can be connected to the
 Internet at
 the warehouse and all time info will be accessible remotely.

 Anyone have any suggestions?

 Tnx

 -B-

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Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

[Stuart Pierce]

I've got Tik hotspots set up at a few towers and have setup usermanager for a 
retirement community. You definitely have more control with a Tik box but using 
Unifi with vouchers would be far easier.

You can still host the Unifi server at your place if they do not keep a 
computer running and they can print out vouchers ahead of time or at the time.

-- Original Message --
From: wi...@mncomm.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:11:44 -0500

Thanks!

From: Bryce Duchcherer 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:34 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

I did a hotel a few months ago using UniFi and MikroTik. 

We are running Hotspot service on the MikroTik (RB1100AHx2) and UserManager.

For user account creation I put in a HotSpot printer from Technologic. It uses 
API to create user accounts in UserManager so it is very easy for clerks to be 
able to create users for guests. You can set limits for days, speed, data 
transfer, etc.

It’s not cheap, and not the easiest to set up but once it is in it works 
well.

 

Check out www.hotspot-printer.com

 

Another option, depending on the billing system they use, could be to use 
radius integrated with their billing system to create users. 

 

Or, you could just enable user manager and the clerk could create users in the 
web interface.

 

If you want some more info shoot me an email off list.

 

Bryce D

bduc...@netago.ca

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of wi...@mncomm.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:24
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Motel WiFi Authentication

 

Not sure if I should post to UBNT or Mikrotik. Anyways we have a few motels 
that we run the UniFi APs in and they offer free use of the service. Of course 
its all you can eat for anyone across the street from the motel, or those who 
loiter in the parking lots. I havent really stayed in enough motels to see how 
they do them but what’s a way that users can get a temp username  password 
when they check in? I havent dinked with it much on the UniFi. I can see how 
to do it, kind of, with hotspot on a Mikrotik, but I am not sure I would want 
a desk clerk dinking with the router. I am assuming that UniFi would be easier 
to use for this. Problem I have is with the few motels using UniFi they hardly 
ever keep the software running, and only turn it on when they need remote help 
from me. We have something similar set up with our ISP billing system for a 
few campgrounds where they create their own credential then pay a few, but I 
had to contract a lot of that out due to my inexperience. Maybe I need to look 
into the Amazon solution. Would be cool to run UniFi on a Mikrotik router.

 

I also assume with them being authenticated we can track bandwidth hogs 
better. We have quite a few motels that have mostly permanent guests full 
time, people that never leave the room constantly downloading movies. On the 
unifi we could always see who they were by MAC only, but forcing someone to 
log in may help with the abuse.

 

thanks

heith

 

 




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Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Stuart Pierce]

Looks like the top left rocket isn't even powered up.

-- Original Message --
From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:19:30 +

I think one of the many local wisps popping here are getting very creative

Anyone can ID this sector? Im thinking its a Mobile Carrier antenna that they 
are reusing… but what band?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.  





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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.
 





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Re: [WISPA] Outlet toner for cat5/6 and/or Coax

[Stuart Pierce]

If all you want is to trace 'ports to rooms' let's say, and have to power to 
both locations, you could plug a Loco into an room and plug laptop into the 
patch panel and run the locater to see the unit. Not the switch, cause you'd 
see them all. So basically $50 bucks a test/trace unit and if you use UBNT in 
your business.

-- Original Message --
From: Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:49:24 -0500

JDSU makes or made several units.  The one I have has 8 number blocks to 
search for.  Does cable length, correct pair wiring, tones and some 
other stuff.  It is in the truck which is a the repair shop so I can not 
give you the model number.
Search Test-Um

On 1/28/2014 3:35 PM, Mark Spring wrote:
 josh,

 the testum unit by jdsu had a model like this(TP600) but didn't do 
 coax. I don't want to oversimplify this, but I can't imagine why there 
 aren't more people making units like this...even the ones with more 
 identifiers, I can't imagine that any of these components are that 
 expensive especially when building them in bulk

 Mark Spring
 Systems Analyst

 New Knoxville Telephone Company
 301 W. South St.
 New Knoxville, OH 45871
 419.753.5000

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 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
 mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 That's not at all what I'm talking about. That's just a tester,
 not a multi-room toner.


 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

 On 01/28/2014 11:31 AM, Ryan Spott wrote:
 Doesn't do rg6 but Ethernet cable with distance to break is a
 lifesaver:
 
 http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=105cp_id=10524cs_id=1052401p_id=8128seq=1format=2

 ryan

 On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:24 PM, timothy steele
 timothy.pct...@gmail.com mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you just wanting a simple tester?
 http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E1687005
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 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Josh Reynolds
 j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 I'm looking for something similar to this (just other options):
 
 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-VDV-Scout-Pro-Tester-Kit-VDV501-809/202520422?quantity=1


 If it works with coax (RG-6) too, that's fine but not required.

 I used to use something similar back in my satellite tv
 days, and
 thought it would be really nice to have for some of our
 indoor wiring jobs.

 Warning: If it says Fluke on it, I probably won't buy it. I
 respect
 their quality, but we don't want to spend 250+ per device
 for these.

 -- 
 Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
 :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::

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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.
 





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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.

 





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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.

 





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[WISPA] Monopole for Sale

[Stuart Pierce]

http://avolve.net/monopole.htm for more information.
  
I have a 100' EEI monopole tower for sale, hardware, ice bridge. On ground in 
Millersport, Ohio 43046. Never erected, supposedly 3 cell carrier, on the 
ground was 25K. To nice for my purposes. Make reasonable offer offlist.
 





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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge

[Stuart Pierce]

What they said Big Bob, definitively more flexibility with a RocketM5, actually 
less expensive when paired with a panel and being able to use DFS is a plus if 
the situation allows.

-- Original Message --
From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
Reply-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 12 Jul 2013 00:29:31 -0400

what he said

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge

Get a pair of Rockets and put them into a flat panel with an enclosure by 
someone like ARC Wireless or IT Elite. They're a lot more flexible in terms 
of antenna selection, DFS availability, lower replacement cost, better RF 
shielding, etc.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

- Original Message -
From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:13:49 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti M5 Powerbridge

Anyone have any good or bad things to say about these?  I am getting 
roped into a couple of links and looking for feedback before I marry 
them to myself.

Tnx

-B-
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Re: [WISPA] Monitor Bandwidth

[Stuart Pierce]

Mikrotik

-- Original Message --
From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:03:11 -0700



 





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Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

[Stuart Pierce]

To bad we can't LIKE a post.

-- Original Message --
From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:46:40 -0700


 





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Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

[Stuart Pierce]

Now that is classic and I remind him every once in awhile.

;)

-- Original Message --
From: Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:41:22 -0600

I remember Jim in his bibs at WISPCON I.   He was trying to sell me 
radios while I was trying to take a leak.

Reminds me of one of the funniest moments I can remember at a trade show...

Marlon, Jaime Solorza and I were teaching a WISP basics class at EC 
Expo.   I was going through an explanation of how IP networks work and 
Jaime left to use the bathroom.   As I was talking about public IP and 
private IP, the sounds of running water started coming over the sound 
system - he had left his wireless microphone turned on.He got a 
standing O when he came back to the room and I thanked him for 
illustrating public IP for the class.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

On 10/6/2011 6:05 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:

 I was at Wispcon 2.  I was NOT in the limo!  I did NOT steal the piano 
 or Guseppi (sp?)!

 Regards,

 Jeff
 ImageStream Sales Manager
 800-813-5123 x106

 

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 10:13 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [Bulk] Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

 I only go back to the 3rd.

   
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
   


 On 10/5/2011 2:58 PM, Jim Patient wrote:

 They look at me funny anyhow.  I wore bibs at the 1^st wispcon and 
 since then everyone expects itJ

 Not sure how many remember back that far.

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:33 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

 It's going to be 80* this weekend and probably warmer next week.  
 Everyone will look at you funny for wearing bibs.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net 
 mailto:jpati...@linktechs.net wrote:

 Is there a dress code?  Will they throw me out if I wear my bibs while 
 I drink the $10 cup of coffee?

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:38 AM


 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

 Yeah, if your gambling!

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *chris cooper
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:35 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

 A 12 oz cup of coffee costs $10.22? And this from a place that will 
 give you all the Johnnie Walker you can drink for free?

 cc

 -Original Message-
 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Rick Harnish
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 12:27 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

 I appreciate everyone's input and we need more input for future events.

 WISPA may not make a dime on this show as it is a Union town and our 
 expenses are very high.  However, the impact this show is having on 
 the industry will be priceless.

 We will learn from this show as we do on all shows and try to improve 
 for future events.  This show will be spectacular but honestly, I am 
 struggling with budgets right now.  Our food/drink expenses are higher 
 than what people have paid to attend.  I hope I don't need to cut some 
 things out, but I may have to make some minor adjustments.  A gallon 
 of coffee is $75 plus service fees of 25% and tax of 12%.  This is 
 compounded on every other consumable that we will be serving.

 I'm not going to say we won't do it in Vegas every year, but from my 
 perspective, the charges to attend, exhibit and sponsor may have to 
 increase if we do.

 Respectfully,

 **

 *Rick Harnish*

 Executive Director

 WISPA

 260-307-4000 tel:260-307-4000 cell

 866-317-2851 tel:866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office

 Skype: rick.harnish.

 rharn...@wispa.org mailto:rharn...@wispa.org

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:55 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] [Bulk] Re: Wispalooza!

 I agree. Flights are cheap, rooms are cheap, food is cheap. 

Re: [WISPA] It's been a ride... Some up, some down.

[Stuart Pierce]

Yes we still have the right, even if it seems to make no difference. Up until 
the family farm kids working debacle, I thought no common sense existed, now I 
know 25% must exist for it got stopped. How it ever saw the light of day is 
still a mystery and doesn't give me any hope for any government management.

-- Original Message --
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 4 May 2012 09:27:00 -0400

I agree Faisal!  As much as we may not like the way our government runs
things, we have the right to petition, to protest, and ultimately, the
ballot box.  My hat is off to people who are able to make things work under
MUCH more difficult circumstances!

Regards,

Jeff
Sales Manager, Blue Technology
574-935-8484 x106 (US/Can)
574-220-7826 (Cell)
+1 574-935-8484 (Int'l)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:12 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's been a ride... Some up, some down.

E se. Akinlolu.

Short, sweet, to the point... spoken by a person who is operating in an 
Environment that makes our Environment look like a walk in the park !

:)

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet  Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, Fl 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net


On 5/4/2012 2:27 AM, Akinlolu C. Ajayi-Obe wrote:
 This list is fun. WISPA is doing a great job. In Nigeria where I operate
our association is not doing enough to protect uss. Its not even making bad
decisions. To renew your license is really hard - easier to get a new one. I
could go on and on. Members should be grateful and either accept what they
get or join the management and effect change.


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Re: [WISPA] Omni antenna for a rocket M900

[Stuart Pierce]

You could always use a LocoM900 with the omni, but don't expect 
to go very far through trees but better than 2.4.

-- Original Message --
From: Eduardo edua...@webjogger.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:26:14 -0400

I have some customers inside a 1 mile radius of a POP. We want 
to use a rocket M900 with an omni antenna and put a dummy load 
on the other RPSMA lead, since we couldn't find any MIMO 900MHz 
omni available.

Does anyone have any experience doing this?

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Re: [WISPA] SSH Tranzeo

[Stuart Pierce]

You can SSH into a Tranzeo unit ? Which model, certainly not a 
CPQ, 5a, 6x variety ?

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:23:32 +

Can anyone give me the proper command line to change the 
gateway on a Tranzeo to 10.22.46.1  I can ssh into it.  (tech 
Fat fingered the gateway)  Trying to save a 25 Mile drive.

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Re: [WISPA] Oldie but goody

[Stuart Pierce]

Must be planet Mecury weeks.

-- Original Message --
From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:07:37 -0500

On 22 December 2011 19:03, Jim Patient jpati...@linktechs.net 
wrote:

 We put this 532 up in March 2006. Let ‘er eat J

 ** **

 [linktechs@tucker] /system resource pr

uptime: 53w11h39m44s

   version: 3.24

   free-memory: 15492kB

  total-memory: 29972kB

   cpu: MIPS 4Kc V0.10

 cpu-count: 1

 cpu-frequency: 330MHz

  cpu-load: 6

free-hdd-space: 89256kB

   total-hdd-space: 126976kB

   write-sect-since-reboot: 367747

  write-sect-total: 858828

bad-blocks: 0

 architecture-name: mipsle

board-name: RB532


53 weeks?

snip uptime is 6 years, 8 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 31 minutes
System image file is flash:c1700-k9o3sy7-mz.123-14.T4.bin



 





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Re: [WISPA] Chicago TDWR down for maintenance

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All I wanted to know is who WISPA hired to find the 
interference, I didn't mean anything conspiracy theory about 
asking. I apologize if anything other than the simple who did 
the sweeping conjured up anything other than.

-- Original Message --
From: John Scrivner j...@mvn.net
Reply-To: j...@mvn.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:14:13 -0600

The interference in Vegas went away and we never found where it 
came from.
Scriv


On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 As far as I can see on wunderground.com it looks to be 
cleared up.
 Didn't hear any word from WISPA.

 Josh Luthman
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Rubens Kuhl 
rube...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is the Las Vegas radar still suffering interference ?


 Rubens


 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/7lzyts8

 Interesting.

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Re: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

[Stuart Pierce]

If they can do 10mhz then vlan is the answer, win-win.

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:08:04 -0500

Two basic reasons, I am on 10Mhz channel size and they want it 
all in-house for their security.  It's a  multimillion dollar 
company that turns normal gas and diesel delivery trucks to 
electric and there is allot of high tech tracking through the 
steps.

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PCS-WIN / RC-WiFihttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

why not just let them use your system for the scanners?

Everything will work better that way.
marlon

- Original Message -
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To: WISPA General Listmailto:wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:47 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Horizontal or Vertical

I have a company that is going to deploy a WiFi Hotspot 
underneath a tower that I already have 4 UBNT M2 Sectors on.  
The reason for the Deploy is they need to use hand barcode 
scanners over their whole Lot.  Luckily they plan to work with 
me on this situation and coordinate frequencies.  I have a stock 
of old Omni's that I have taken down, half are Horizontal and 
Half are vertical polarity.  Since my AP's are dual pol that 
does not matter.  There however is generally less noise on 
Horizontal.  The hand held barcode readers give no spec as to 
how the internal antenna is oriented.  What would others 
recommendation.  I am using as high gain antenna as possible 
then turning down the transmit so the receive will be good both 
ways.  This will be covering about 4 acres.

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Re: [WISPA] I'm new, I hope this is the right list...

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Probably waiting for that Amber Kunze to be done so he can ship 
some to me.

-- Original Message --
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net
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Date:  Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:09:15 -0500

It's a Rick Kunze siting!  How the heck are you Rick?

Regards,

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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Rick Kunze
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
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Or as I like to phrase it: You won't get rich in the WISP 
business, 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?

[Stuart Pierce]

Yes it is, it's what UBNT should have been to begin with, but I 
need 2.4 120*'s and 5.8 120*'s now while the weather is good.

-- Original Message --
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:32:51 -0500

That's a major plus for us as well.

On 11/2/2011 1:16 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Built in RF armor = reduced cost

 And think of the wind load savings (is that a proper term?)

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 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Shane 
MacDonaldwi...@kpperformance.ca  wrote:
 Closer to our sectors release date we will be releasing all 
the features and
 specs compared to others on the market.
 This will include our real world tests results comparing our 
sectors to the
 UBNT ones.

 On 2011-11-02, at 11:20 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 I'm just posing a question, no intended bias.

 Why should I go with your antennas over the UBNT ones?

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 On 11/2/2011 9:58 AM, Shane MacDonald wrote:

 We are trying to decide which degree Ubiquiti sectors to 
release in
 December.
 Our production line can handle two of the three for a mid 
December release
 date and want your feedback.
 The 120 degree version is pretty much a lock but we want 
your opinion
 between the 90s or 60s so we release the sectors you 
require.
 Please reply to the list or send me an email directly as 
your response will
 weigh heavily on our decision.
 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput

[Stuart Pierce]

Have you tried to not use auto for ack and set the ack for 1.5 
times the distance ?

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 25 Oct 2011 05:38:39 -0500

I haven't deployed any Rocket PtP links with less than 55 
signal.

Have you followed UBNT's best practices guide? 
http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/Best%20Practices.pdf

Next step, hit up their forum or their support. Matt at UBNT 
worked some 
magic on one of my links and it has been solid ever since.

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On 10/24/2011 4:52 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:

 Ok tried 20mhz, throughput drops about 10mbps to about 
30mbps.  My 
 signal is at least 20db better than noise (signal -59 noise -
85+).  
 ACK is set auto with distance of 2 miles (actual distance is 
approx 
 1.5mi).  cable not an issue.  any thoughts?

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
boun...@wispa.org] 
 *On Behalf Of *Tom DeReggi
 *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 3:27 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput

 You probably either have 1) noisy channels, 2) incorrect ACK 
 distances, 3) not optimal firmware version, 4) Or some third 
party 
 factor effecting testing, such as testing devices that cant 
generate 
 that much traffic or buffer sizes of routers.

 The first thing to try is switch down to 20mhz channel and 
see if the 
 speed tests stays the same or higher, or if it drops 
proportionally. I 
 bet the 20Mhz channel will perform better.

 Dont rely on CCQ on its own. Its one indicator, but does not 
mean you 
 have a clean channel for sure.  Also remember, the Eth port 
is limited 
 to 100mb, and if there is cable quality issues such as due to 
 distance, it could autoadjust to half duplex. Test laptop to 
PC, 
 isolating RF path, just for grins.  It is very rare to find 
40Mhz of 
 clean spectrum for Dual polarity, and even the slightest 
packet loss 
 and delay can drastically reduce TCP throughput.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

 - Original Message -

 *From:*Patrick D. Nix, Jr 
mailto:pni...@cnetworksolutions.com

 *To:*WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org

 *Sent:*Monday, October 24, 2011 3:50 PM

 *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput

 Problem is when I turn airmax on the speed really goes in 
the
 toilet.  Best I can get is about 20mbps. According to 
ubiquiti
 airmax needs to be off up to 15km links, anything over  
that
 airmax needs to be on.  Do you have good success with 
short airmax
 ptp links?

 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Travis 
Johnson
 *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2011 2:45 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] UBNT Rocket M5 Throughput

 Turn AirMax on.

 Travis

 On 10/24/2011 1:36 PM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr wrote:

 What is the best real TCP throughput up/down anyone is 
getting on
 a PtP ubnt connection?  We have two rocket M5 approx 1.5 
mi, CCQ
 97-98%, 40mhz channel width, airmax off.

 Displayed TX/RX rate is 270/270.  Real TCP throughput via 
iperf
 radio to radio is 40-45mbps.

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Re: [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM

[Stuart Pierce]

Please not facebook, why not your website.

-- Original Message --
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Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:01:45 -0400

And you would assume everyone that wants to know about MT uses 
Facebook 
because ?

On 10/14/2011 2:01 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

 Check our facebook page J

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boun...@wispa.org] 
 *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
 *Sent:* Friday, October 14, 2011 10:16 AM
 *To:* a...@afmug.com; WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)
 *Subject:* [WISPA] New Stuff from MUM

 Any new announcements in hardware?

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT files $200M IPO

[Stuart Pierce]

I've always had good, really almost unquestionable, RMA response. They are very 
active in their forums and at times provide a flurry of emails even over the 
weekends. But what do I know, I only have a credibility of 3 on the forums.

;)

-- Original Message --
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:02:24 -0400

The forums are good and then you got Ben :)

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Tom,

 Please advise what RMA's you are having trouble with.  Send to me here:
 ben.mo...@ubnt.com.  Our RMA process is typically very good (we have heard
 from many customers that it is one of the better in the industry).  Let me
 know RMA #'s and will look into this.  Sorry for the trouble you have
 experienced.

 Regards,
 Ben

 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.comwrote:

 It is interesting. But I am just astonished that a company with annual
 sales
 in excess of $100M can't do a better job of supporting their customers.
 Relying on the forum and a couple of overworked CSRs is just ridiculous. I
 still can't get answers to my emails or returns of RMA'd items.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT files $200M IPO


  That was a very interesting read.
 
  On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:51 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 
  wrote:
 
 http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2011/06/20/ubiquiti-networks-files-200m-ipo.html
 
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Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas...

[Stuart Pierce]

Wow it's Tony, a blast from the past !

-- Original Message --
From: Tony Morella (demarc) t...@demarctech.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sun, 8 May 2011 13:01:13 -0400

Blair

 

Have you taken a look at Ethernet over coax, very simple to  run and low
cost. An example of a product:

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Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

[Stuart Pierce]

I had someone just yesterday after learning they were burning through their 
20gig limit in 10 days, think about giving up their cable bill of $30 and just 
pay me that money to watch shows. Until I told him that an HD movie would be 
anywhere from 1.5-2gigs. Although I will have to think about this more, because 
you are basically now a premium 'real' ON-Demand video service. You definitely 
have to be running some sort of polling AP with plenty of bandwidth and have to 
big infrastructure emergency plans.

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 2 May 2011 13:21:57 -0400

Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them?  I suppose if the
customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one
thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something.

Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable
companies, for example.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit.

 Regards,

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  Robert
  up/down/aggregate
  103972 MB   469598 MB   573570 MB
 
  The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April.  Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits
 down.
 
  I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but
 if
  anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I
  would greatly appreciate it.

 What is cost per megabit from your upstream?



 
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Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

[Stuart Pierce]

I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs 
stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this 
point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their 
bandwidth consumption.

Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a 
Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when 
they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email 
to say.

What did your letter say ? 

-- Original Message --
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700

I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of 
the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these...

1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows 
for more  costs more), or
2. change their behavior to not use so much
3. leave

I am implementing this now.  The letter went out on Friday to most 
customers...

On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
 Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to 
 continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet.

 Regards,

 Chuck


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them?  I suppose
 if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay
 more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to
 capitalize on something.

 Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from
 cable companies, for example.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com
 mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:

 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit.

 Regards,

 Chuck



 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com
 mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote:

  Robert
  up/down/aggregate
  103972 MB   469598 MB   573570 MB
 
  The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April.  Paying $53.32 for
 4 megabits down.
 
  I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my
 previous email, but if
  anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps
 you are using I
  would greatly appreciate it.

 What is cost per megabit from your upstream?


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

[Stuart Pierce]

There has always been talk about the internet using a utility billing model, in 
which there is a minimum usage and then charged for anything over the minimum. 
Such as I pay for water, I get 3000 gallons for one price, anything over is 
charged by gallon. 

Electricity, Natural Gas and water all do this and now you see electric 
utilities giving you feedback to what you are using, smart metering. I suspect 
gas and water will follow suit, but being in the technical industry, there is 
no reason now that you can't be giving the client that information as well.

-- Original Message --
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 02 May 2011 15:54:54 -0700

To follow through some thinking here...

If that device was Billing-Server-Package-Aware then you could offer a 
higher level of service for HD customers that allowed the Netflix 
service to sense a higher-bandwidth connection and it may be more 
likely to stream in HD than SD.  I say offer...the flip side of 
offer is charge for, at a higher rate, of course.

There are always those who gotta have it...

On 5/2/2011 3:50 PM, David E. Smith wrote:

 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 17:32, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com 
 mailto:coelh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anybody worked on allowing streaming video up to lets say 10
 Mb total transfer, then knocking THAT stream down to a slow rate?


 I tried something like that a while back - we got so very many angry 
 phone calls that the boss had us discontinue it in less than a week. 
 We actually didn't try to limit by video type, just any single 
 ongoing TCP transaction, but in practice it only affected audio and 
 video streaming, Microsoft Update, and MMO patches.

 I'm sure someone out there would be glad to sell you a content-aware 
 filtering device for many thousands of dollars, if you're so inclined.

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Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.

[Stuart Pierce]

Just don't go postal, but yea sure I'd like to take a look at it.

-- Original Message --
From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 03 May 2011 13:58:30 -0700

Hehehe if you're my CUSTOMER then you will get one via postal... :)

On 5/3/2011 1:56 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Postal or UPS? :)

 On May 3, 2011 4:50 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net 
 mailto:markl...@uwol.net wrote:
  I'll send you the letter offline since you're a WISPA member...
 
  On 5/3/2011 6:05 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
  I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth 
 caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not 
 charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of 
 giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption.
 
  Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script 
 for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email 
 the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want 
 the content of the email to say.
 
  What did your letter say ?
 
  -- Original Message --
  From: Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net mailto:markl...@uwol.net
  Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org 
 mailto:wireless@wispa.org
  Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700
 
  I think it's important for people to (after gaining an 
 understanding of
  the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these...
 
  1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that 
 allows
  for more costs more), or
  2. change their behavior to not use so much
  3. leave
 
  I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most
  customers...
 
  On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
  Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to
  continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else 
 out yet.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman
  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 
  Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose
  if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay
  more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to
  capitalize on something.
 
  Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from
  cable companies, for example.
 
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
  On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hoggch...@shelbybb.com 
 mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com
  mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
 
  25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chuck
 
 
 
  On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Mattlm7...@gmail.com 
 mailto:lm7...@gmail.com
  mailto:lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Robert
   up/down/aggregate
   103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB
  
   The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for
  4 megabits down.
  
   I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my
  previous email, but if
   anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps
  you are using I
   would greatly appreciate it.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Utility Pole repeaters

[Stuart Pierce]

Tranzeo had a device that you could screw into the electric eye of a 
streetlight to get power.

-- Original Message --
From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 03 May 2011 11:51:52 -0400

   Used some of these in a few deployments

   
 http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Power-Tap-provides-power-access-from-l
ighting-poles-6618

   Made in Illinois.
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On 5/3/11 11:22 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:

Has anybody mounted wireless gear utility poles that are being used by
power/phone etc with success?

I'm towing with possibilities of doing this with ubnt M gear Power
bridge backhaul and Rocket Omni for instant area immediate small area
coverage
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Re: [WISPA] Verizon 4G LTE - WOW

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You mean skewed when the test site figures out what kind of device you are 
using.

On Apr 2, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:

 Do a real test and report back, like FTP. Ookla  Speedtest.net test are 
 bogus 99.9% percent of the time because it's based on screwy test 
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 On 04/01/2011 11:05 PM, Charles Wu wrote:
 
 Just got my HTC Thunderbolt, and Ookla tested 20 Mb down, 24 Mb up at 
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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Data Caps and Streaming

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Are there no boat races going on or what, this is the most I've heard out of 
the Kunze for a couple of years it seems. Did your number change ?

-- Original Message --
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:07:40 -0400

It sounds like it has improved somewhat from when I was using the Allot box
back in '97. It would be nice if there was more automation in the process.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com wrote:

 It's been a lengthy learning curve, I've been forming this mechanism
 since around 2001 but it all works very well now.  I use 5 levels of
 priority for customers, Level 0 through Level 4.  Level 5 is for
 special use when needed and 6 is infrastructure equipment.  Level 7
 (top level) is reserved so I can reach things in the event of some
 other host or interface causing a packet storm or the like.

 Then the balancing act is grouping day-user businesses with
 night-user residentials, or whatever is needed to lump all customers
 into a few smaller groups.  Then the total bandwidth is partitioned
 into the same number of slices as there are groups of
 customers.  This becomes the CIR but is fundamentally based on
 priority.  The burst then comes in from the scattering of priority
 levels within each group.  Basically residentials are sacraficed
 during the week days for any other higher priority packet.  But
 ceilings are also put in place to keep any one customer from sucking
 all the Ether out of the wire.  That's also inherent in the grouping
 strategy.

 It's always a moving target though, and needs re-shuffling from time
 to time as the usage patterns of some users change over time.

 Some groups are geographical, but mostly it's random based on usage
 patterns.  What I've seen change the most over the last 6-12 months
 especially is that residential is overtaking business.  The night
 time bandwidth demands are equal to and starting to exceed daytime
 business demands.  The former having ramped up considerably lately
 with movies and the like.  A streaming Netflix standard def movie is
 roughly a 1.2 meg stream for a couple hours, but the duty cycle as
 I like to call it is only about 50% to 80%.

 Rk



 At 08:53 AM 3/30/2011, you wrote:
 Rick, Thats great! The real trick is can you prioritize AND bill
 accordingly?
 
 On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Rick Kunze
 mailto:rku...@colusanet.comrku...@colusanet.com wrote:
 At 10:37 AM 3/29/2011, you wrote:
  Wow that would be cool. Now just to find a device which can split
  all that out easily and maintain accounting.
 
 I have this all automatically controlled with a Packeteer.  Eight
 levels of priority with on the fly per packet control, partitioning
 of bandwidth, and the ability to control both priority and volume on
 a per customer basis, right down to the actual type of traffic such
 as www or smtp, or Citrix, or you name it.  Traffic discovery, makes
 graphs, runs scripts to change things on weekends for example, all
 kinds of features.
 
 These things are cheap on Ebay.
 
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Re: [WISPA] WAY off topic: Electric Vehicle ConversionConventionEVCCON

[Stuart Pierce]

Is that one in a museum or something, it's in pristine condition ! Oh and I am 
glad you are alive.

-- Original Message --
From: Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com
Date:  Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:17:14 -0700

At 10:34 AM 3/25/2011, you wrote:
I would probably make a trek to Jack's place to see all of this stuff

I've been considering it . . .

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Re: [WISPA] WAY off topic: Electric Vehicle Conversion Convention EVCCON

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Hello my name is Jack Rickard.

-- Original Message --
From: John Scrivner j...@mvn.net
Reply-To: j...@mvn.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:27:32 -0500

I am sure many of you old trimers to the ISP business remember Jack Rickard,
founder of Boardwatch Magazine, BBSCON which became ISPCON? I am honored to
say that Jack and I have become friends. He and I have brainstormed about
all sorts of whackiness over the last few years.  He has been feverishly
seeking some new thing to put his time, money and energy behind to
rekindle that spark of innovation and creation of new and budding industry.
He has found it in converting cars to electric. Sohistory is repeating
itself in a way. Jack is now doing a weekly Internet TV show he calls the
Friday Show on his website at http://evtv.me . It is free so you might want
to check it out. He is also working on a conference for those who are
converting their own cars to electric. Jack is still full of the same
excitement and energy as he has always had. His new focus is interesting and
I just wanted to share it with the rest of you. I am actually hoping to do
my own conversion one day. I apologize that this is not really on topic for
a wireless Internet list but I know Jack's efforts were a big part of many
of your lives and so I thought it was appropriate to share it here.
John Scrivner


-- Forwarded message --
From: Jack Rickard mjrick...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:30 AM
Subject: Electric Vehicle Conversion Convention EVCCON
To: John j...@mvn.net


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 Writer/Director Chris Paine's documentary feature film *Who Killed the
Electric Ca*r? premiered at the Sundance Film Festival in 2006 before its
release by Sony Pictures to critical acclaim in 100 U.S. markets.  The film
was the third highest-grossing theatrical documentary of 2006 and screened
with *An Inconvenient Truth* in many markets.

 The film was written and directed by Chris Paine, and produced by Jessie
Deeter, and executive produced by Tavin Marin Titus, Richard D. Titus of
Plinyminor and Dean Devlin, Kearie Peak, Mark Roskin, and Rachel Olshan of
Electric Entertainment.  The film grossed over $1.75 million - a large
number for independent documentaries of this type.

 Currently in wide DVD release, Paine's film investigates the events leading
to the quiet destruction of thousands of new, radically efficient electric
vehicles. Through interviews and narrative, the film paints a picture of an
industrial culture whose aversion to change and reliance on oil may be
deeper then its ability to embrace ready solutions.
 *Who Killed the Electric Car?* and Chris Paine were nominated by the
Writer's Guild for Best Documentary of 2006. The film also received
nominations from The Broadcast Critics Awards and The Environmental Media
Awards for Best Documentary of 2006. The film won the audience award at the
Canberra International Film Festival and won a special jury prize at the
Mountain Film Festival.

 Festivals and Awards

 1) Nominated: Best Documentary - Environmental Media Awards (2006)
 2) Won - Special Jury Prize Mountain Film (Telluride) (2006)
 3) Nominated Writers Guild: Best Documentary
 4) Nominated Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards, 2007 Best Doc.
Feature
 5) Won - Audience Award at the Canberra International Film Festival.

 The film screened at the following Film Festivals:

 San Francisco Film Festival
 Sundance Film Festival
 Deauville Film Festival
 Seattle Film Festival
 Los Angeles Film Festival
 Canberra Film Festival  Tribeca Film Festival
 Berlin International Film Festival
 Atlanta Film Festival
 Newport Film Festival
 Mountain Film Festival

 Sony marketed *Who Killed The Electric Car?* in over 100 theatrical markets
to become the third highest grossing documentary in 2007. Netflix now lists
nearly 150,000 ratings of the  DVD release from renting customers. Over 400
reviews have been written on Neflix and it is in their Top Ten List of
important movies you should see.
 Thanks to the massive push behind *An Inconvenient Truth* (they were a
trailer for that film in theaters) and internet word of mouth, this West
LA-produced documentary reached people around the world and helped inspire
change.




 The success of *Who Killed the Electric Car?*  rather goes beyond electric
cars.  It has been an inspiration to independent producers of documentaries
and with the advent of video on the Internet, has led to an entire movement
of video production marketed around the large distributors, such as Sony,
with numerous other documentaries gaining an audience directly.

 Pain has been working on a sequel *Revenge of the Electric Car*.  This is
scheduled for release April 22nd at the Tribeca 

Re: [WISPA] WAY off topic: Electric Vehicle Conversion ConventionEVCCON

[Stuart Pierce]

Is this what Cor does in his spare time now ? I would probably make a trek to 
Jack's place to see all of this stuff, especially if Cor was there.

-- Original Message --
From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 25 Mar 2011 09:42:34 -0400

On 25 March 2011 09:27, John Scrivner j...@mvn.net wrote:

 I am sure many of you old trimers to the ISP business remember Jack
 Rickard, founder of Boardwatch Magazine, BBSCON which became ISPCON? I am
 honored to say that Jack and I have become friends. He and I have
 brainstormed about all sorts of whackiness over the last few years.  He has
 been feverishly seeking some new thing to put his time, money and energy
 behind to rekindle that spark of innovation and creation of new and budding
 industry. He has found it in converting cars to electric. Sohistory is
 repeating itself in a way. Jack is now doing a weekly Internet TV show he
 calls the Friday Show on his website at http://evtv.me . It is free so you
 might want to check it out. He is also working on a conference for those who
 are converting their own cars to electric. Jack is still full of the same
 excitement and energy as he has always had. His new focus is interesting and
 I just wanted to share it with the rest of you. I am actually hoping to do
 my own conversion one day. I apologize that this is not really on topic for
 a wireless Internet list but I know Jack's efforts were a big part of many
 of your lives and so I thought it was appropriate to share it here.
 John Scrivner


*snip*

Don't forget about another old timer with a knack for EVs.

http://www.evalbum.com/694
http://www.evalbum.com/1044
http://www.evalbum.com/720.html



 





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[WISPA] Bandwidth Hog or Hippo ?

[Stuart Pierce]

What do you do with a client that uses 65gigs in 42 days ? To top it off they 
are late payers and complain a little and always use the excuse they have to 
talk to their son in Iraq early in the morning. We only allow 20 gigs for their 
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Re: [WISPA] My friend's logic

[Stuart Pierce]

The thin pigtail decides the number of clients ? lol, more likely the signal 
loss in the pigtail causes low signal on clients causing all kinds of problems, 
making it look like it is caused by a certain number.

Depending on hardware used for the Tik box, it probably out performs the Bullet.

Heck you could argue that the Bullet does have a pigtail, it's the solder point 
on the circuit board.

-- Original Message --
From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
Reply-To: wil...@optimumwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:50:30 -0400

Hello.

Thought I share this with the list.

I have a friend that is using MT as ap on one of his towers with his
radios in 10MHz and on another tower bullets with sector panels, similar
set up on both towers except for the radios. He was explaining that he
finds the bullets outperforms the ubiquiti radios on the MT by far. His
explanation:

The reason why bullets outperfoms the radios intalled on a router board
is because of the pigtail used from the radio to the antenna. This
pigtail works like a electricity cable in that the thicker the cable the
more current is able to pass through so, the mikrotik pigtails are way
too thin. When there is a certain number of clients connected to that
radio the pigtail saturates the radio traffic because of the 'high
traffic or current passing through the pigtail' and as a result; links
between clients and ap can be slow and performance decreases. Now, the
bullets do not have any pigtail or other connector and thats a reason
why links with bullets are more stable and performs better than having a
routerboard and radios with pigtails.

What you guys think of his logic?

Note:
Posted this on dslreports wisp mainling list as well so, for those also
registered to that list: sorry for the double posts.






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Re: [WISPA] Intro.

[Stuart Pierce]

What is your terrain, area like ? Where do you propose to test your WISP 
learnings ?

-- Original Message --
From: wphipp...@gmail.com wphipp...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:32:52 +

Thanks!

I don't actually run a wisp, I am just doing some preliminary research into 
this space.

I hope list members don't mind if I lurk for a while, at lest until I can 
contribute something of value.

Best wishes,
Will
Sent from my HTC

- Reply message -
From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
Date: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 13:32
Subject: [WISPA] Intro.
To: wphipp...@gmail.com, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Well than Will, you came to the right place!

I believe that WISPA was pretty much responsible for getting that approved by 
the FCC.

 

Where is your WISP service?

 

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From: wphipp...@gmail.com [mailto:wphipp...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 7:26 AM
To: St. Louis Broadband; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intro.

 

Thanks Victoria.

My main interest lies with white space spectrum. I am especially interested in 
how access to the white space spectrum will open up. 

I think it could be of great benefit to government, industry and consumers if 
a workable and simple 
way if utilizing unused bands could be developed. 

Best wishes,
Will

Sent from my HTC

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Date: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 12:53
Subject: [WISPA] Intro.
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org

Hi Will,



Nice to see you here and welcome to WISPA!



Can you tell us a little about you and your WISP J



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I thought I would make a brief introduction as I have just signed up.

I hope I can be of help.

Best wishes,
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Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world

[Stuart Pierce]

Jack,

Go ahead and pen a template and post it for others to enhance as needed for 
their areas. Enhancing it for their areas and sent to their representatives for 
their areas will make more sense to those representatives when mentioning 
landmarks and such.


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Re: [WISPA] Obama want to control the wireless world

[Stuart Pierce]

Does everyone forget where this stimulus money comes from ( or will ) or what ? 
This stimulus money is turning everyone into Ostriches to the problems it 
brings now and the future. 

Most everyone I know in this industry for years has built out with their own 
capabilities. Can more money help build out more areas quicker ? Well hades yea 
! 

This money isn't going back to the people, it's a loan believe it or not. They 
need to take all of this supposedly extra money and give it directly back to 
the people. 

If they want to promote broadband, then maybe a coupon idea, for verification 
and accountability only, is a good idea. The coupon is worth what, $31, based 
on the population of the USA of 315 million and the recent bandied about $10 
million dollar figure.

Best idea to promote broadband is not to tax it and make anything remotely 
associated with broadband, even a Wii, 100% deductible.

Bottom line, if you've got this surplus of money in the government and want to 
stimulate the economy ( broadband or not ), give it back to the people.

With that, Go Buckeyes !!

-- Original Message --
From: Drew Lentz d...@drewlentz.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 11 Feb 2011 22:18:15 -0600

Jack, this line stood out to me:
Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together 

You know, I might be in the minority here, but I see great things with this.
The fact that there is more stimulus money coming out to support building a
wireless infrastructure in this country, to me, is phenomenal. By supporting
groups like WISPA and making sure your voice is heard at the congressional
level, maybe some of the money can make it into the right hands to tie
together networks, allowing existing provides to increase build-out, and
help this country move forward. If we don't band together to shed light on
the subject of what can be done with the existing providers, you're right,
money will go to new guys that don't have an existing business in more rural
locations, who need to keep it local. The more we get the word out that we
are present, available, and ready and willing to work with the powers that
be (whether it be the FCC, the congress men and women, or their designated
contractors), the better our voice sounds. Don't take this as a WISPA
commercial .. take it as a big bright shining sign that we need to now, more
than ever, collect ourselves and get our voice loud and proud where it
matters. If its done right, we will all benefit from it. Maybe I am giving
too much credit to our government, but maybe we all need to remember that
change starts with every single one of us. If we all take one step forward
towards fixing this instead of complaining about it, that's quite a few
steps.

-drew

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have written in a more eloquent way to various of my congresspeople,
 however, this was more of a quick rant on a yahoo message board.  I am a
 true believer in democracy, capitalism, and the free market.  I very
 strongly don't believe in socialism.

 I don't feel that the majority of those at the wheel at the moment have a
 clue as to what they are doing.They're more after sound bites and speech
 fodder.

 wispa is a good beginning for our industry, but there are some steps that
 would really help make some changes and mature this industry..  I'll try to
 put some of those down and post them up early next week.

 Marco




 On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:

  Marco,

 Your letter makes some great points but in somewhat insulting way that may
 cause it to just be tossed aside rather than taken seriously. If you would
 like me to re-write a future letter for you so that it makes it's points in
 a more considerate way, I'll be happy to help you with that.

 I think this article shows just how far WISPs (and WISPA) need to go to
 make elected officials aware that all wireless isn't mobile. They seem
 unaware that WISPs supply FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND and that mobile broadband
 is (like Matt Larsen says) toy broadband.

 Rather than piss and moan, when are we going to get our act together and
 get our message about the benefits of FIXED WIRELESS BROADBAND out to
 Congress?

 jack



 On 2/10/2011 2:27 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:


 Here's some more:
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_on_re_us/us_obama


 my response:

 Dear Mr. President,

 I have built, own, and operate an Internet Service Provider (ISP) company.
 I have done this with my OWN money, blood, sweat, and tears for over 13
 years. We presently cover 5000 square miles of previously unsupported areas.
 So far your broadband stimulus moneys' have done nothing for my customers
 but cause interference from wanabe ISPs using the peoples money to mess
 things up.

 Sure, most of them will be out of business in a couple of years, but it's
 still adds more work for those who have 

Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

[Stuart Pierce]

They can't stop the Godz Rock'n'Roll Machines !

-- Original Message --
From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:18:53 -0600

Ohbummer is trying to get an internet off switch for himself as we speak.
I think that is as scary as the way hitler started.  Gun control, then mind
control.





On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:51 AM, St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
 wrote:

   and government office that* relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs* for
 their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world

 Sounds like what the U.S. could morph into …

 ***Victoria Proffer - President/CEO*

 *www.ShowMeBroadband.com*

 *www.StLouisBroadband.com*

 *www.FarmingtonForum.com* http://farmingtonforum.com/

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgwireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of ch...@htswireless.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 9:31 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 They may be talking about the European-Asian fiber-optic routes that go

 through Egypt..

 Chris

 -Original Message-

 From: Faisal Imtiaz

 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:21 AM

 To: spie...@avolve.net ; WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

 I am sorry but that is a cheap shot

 I have never received any spam originating from Egypt... Tons of spam from

 here in the US though.

 :)

 Faisal

 On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote:

  Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

 

  -- Original Message --

  From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com

  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

  Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

 

  Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

 

 
 ***

  Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action

  unprecedented in

  Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered
 service

  providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet.

  Critical

  European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected

  for now.

  But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe,

  website,

  school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four

  Egyptian ISPs

  for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the

  world. Link

  Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their

  customers and

  partners are, for the moment, off the air.

 

  At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually

  simultaneous

  withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global

  routing

  table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving


  no

  valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange

  Internet

  traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's
 Internet

  addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.

 

 
 

 

 

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Eqypt Has Been Disconnected from the Internet

[Stuart Pierce]

Well maybe some spam will stop, a little at least.

-- Original Message --
From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:06:22 -0800

Sorry for the OT post. I thought some might be interested.

***
Confirming what a few have reported this evening: in an action unprecedented 
in 
Internet history, the Egyptian government appears to have ordered service 
providers to shut down all international connections to the Internet. Critical 
European-Asian fiber-optic routes through Egypt appear to be unaffected for 
now. 
But every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, Internet cafe, website, 
school, embassy, and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian 
ISPs 
for their Internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. 
Link 
Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers 
and 
partners are, for the moment, off the air.

At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous 
withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the Internet's global routing 
table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP routes were withdrawn, leaving no 
valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange Internet 
traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's Internet 
addresses are now unreachable, worldwide.




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Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combatchild porn

[Stuart Pierce]

Well it would seem they don't want us around, afterall, the less players there 
are, the more control there is. The world is crazy and this is just one more 
reactionary move by inept people in charge. Closer to the root of the problems 
needs to be addressed, but using the word of the day, they are disconnected ( 
probably have fiber in their palaces ).

-- Original Message --
From: St. Louis Broadband li...@stlbroadband.com
Reply-To: li...@stlbroadband.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:22:28 -0600

Same thing here from CNET:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html 

Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing data
and email.

Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds .

The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if
WISPs will exist in the next few years.


Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
www.ShowMeBroadband.com
www.StLouisBroadband.com
www.FarmingtonForum.com http://farmingtonforum.com/ 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combat child
porn

Why do they not just make everyone apply for v6 space. At least that
way was designed for tacking IP space to people.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote:
 The following information is offered for your personal use only. It
contains no
 added starch, sugar or editorial content. It was not processed on any
machinery
 that also processes eggs or nuts.




*

 House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith says new laws are needed that would
force
 companies to save private data in order to help law enforcement combat
child
 pornography.

 Smith said at a hearing on Tuesday that Internet access providers should
be
 forced to save personal details linked to users' IP addresses as a way to
help
 combat child pornography. In the last Congress, he introduced a bill
requiring
 they do so for two years...

 LINK:

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/139945-smith-companies-
must-save-more-data-to-combat-child-porn





***


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Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

[Stuart Pierce]

Mac Dearman, that Scottish guy. Michelob Ultra, what the heck is up with that.

-- Original Message --
From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:44:30 -0500

Yes I won a nice 5ghz moto starter pack. Talked moto into changing that out
to a 4.9ghz PTP link with the help of Ray Savich from Motorola. Here is a
link to the case study.
http://www.motorola.com/web/Business/Products/Wireless%20Networks/Wireless%2
0Broadband%20Networks/Point-to-Point/_Documents/staticfiles/Breaking%20the%2
0Shackles%20of%20Inmate%20Transport%20Costs.pdf?localeId=33

 

Rick,

 

I loved the WISP-NOG show, it was one of the best show I have attended. I
consider that to be back in the early days and I still look back upon that
show as a historic memory, Moto was just announcing their 900mhz Canopy
platform. Not too many vendors there at all, think WISP-ROUTER was the only
one. I learned more from sitting down in the hotel bar talking with a lot of
the big names like Mac Dearman, Butch Evans, John Scrivner, Charles Wu and
probably a few others I forget about. I think I had about 35 clients back
then. Never though I would get past the 100 mark or even the 200 or 300. I
remember the presentation that Todd Bergstrohm gave and at that time 3db
networks had about 3500 clients I think. Oh remember the dinner we all went
to? Remember that butt paste or whatever it was called, lol. Then we had
the Beer-n-Wireless-Gear and I wasn't even old enough to drink.

 

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

419-562-6405

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:25 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 

Kurt was one of our first members signing up at WISPNOG in Chicago in 2005.
He was 18 at the time I think.  He took a few years off and came back last
summer joining at the Summer Regional Meeting.  It is good to have you back!
You have been an impressive young entrepreneur to watch.  I think you won a
pretty nice door prize at the St. Louis Meeting didn't you?

 

Rick

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:16 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 

Rick, I look forward to paying my WISPA dues this summer, it is one
investment I know that will have a much higher ROI than anything else.

 

Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

419-562-6405

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:09 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 

Kurt,

 

You are exactly right.  Working inside the Beltway is very expensive.
Office Rent, Malpractice insurance, hotels, food and just about everything
else is twice what it is in the common world.  However, to be clued in and
in touch with the daily events that happen at the FCC and Congress, it is
almost essential that we maintain a presence there through our attorney.
Many associations have their corporate offices in the DC Metro Area.  We are
a long ways from doing that and we maintain our virtual offices across the
country at Board Member offices and my little rented office in Indiana.  We
are appreciative of all the supplies, electricity, insurance and other
expenses incurred by those that serve on the Board, so that we can maintain
low overhead and dedicate the major portion of our revenue to go to lobbying
type efforts.

 

For those of you that are wondering.  Our legal expenses last year were
almost $100,000.

 

I appreciate your kind words and we will continue to work for the industry.
Hopefully others will join the members in supporting our efforts.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 8:11 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISPA DUES - (was: new list)

 

Rick,

 

I just seen the total expenses sheet, and all I have to say is WOW. I had no
idea that there was as much legal fees associated with running WISPA. Lets
face it, these annual member fees are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP compared to the
overall cost of running WISPA. And right now pretty much everyone that is a
WISP (paying member of WISPA or not) is getting benefit from this
organization from the lobbying efforts and FCC agenda. I encourage anyone
that is not a current member to 

Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combatchildporn

[Stuart Pierce]

Exactly, I don't think we have permission to store their private information 
either. If we are asked to fulfill the role of a law enforcement position we 
should get paid. We are asked to be a tax collector and we are not paid and I 
actually think that that is against the law, but we won't go there.

-- Original Message --
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:43:55 -0500

I believe it is more politically correct to disobey the law to protest it, 
than to break the law to enforce the law.
I'd argue that breaking a law to enforce another leaves a loophole for a 
defendant, that disobeyed a law that should be protested, to use as a 
defense to have issue thrown out of court. I believe if stricter tracking 
regulations ever get made, the laws will likely get challenged.
If you think its tough for small WISPs to archive usage data, jsut think how 
hard it would be for a large company serving millions of subs.
And even if ISPs tracked the info, what good would it really do? How would 
one even verify the accuracy of the collected data, and verify it was not 
tampered with. For example, to prevent someone from framing another person, 
by spoofing IPs and such.

If there is one law or regulation that should be made, it is that a 
broadband provider should not be required or allowed to fullfill the role of 
a law enforcement agent or spy, without first establishing probable cause, 
gainng warrante or subpeona, and supervision of law enforcement agent for 
the specific task.  The cost of doing it blanket accross the board everyday 
for all far exceeds the Return of doing it. Not in line with goals of NBP to 
get affordable broadband to Americans. I'm not even sure that ISPs should 
ahve the right to store information without permission from the owner of the 
information.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to combatchild 
porn


I want that NCIS computer where every search takes a while but comes
back with a BEEP BEEP so everyone knows in the room that they had
results. Oh and the searches they do on cell is instantaneous plus they
get in to every ISP without even a second thought. TV is just that
entertainment, it would be cool for congress if life was like TV and
personal rights of privacy didn't exist, that stupid inconvenient
constitution keeps getting in the way of everything! My fav is when they
justify breaking the law to enforce the law, what would be the point of
the 'rule of law' if everyone adopted the 'ends justify the means'
philosophy? I'll stop there before I get political, see restraint DOES
come with age.

Forbes

On 1/26/2011 7:29 AM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 I would love to see the proof where someone got away for not having
 the ip/user information (but really, isps should haveat least  that)
 and that every case that had ip/user information did result in a
 conviction of the correct offender. Personally, I think some
 politicians have been watching to much SVU and CSI.

 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:21 AM, St. Louis Broadband
 li...@stlbroadband.com  wrote:
 Yep, I hear you Stuart.

 So how do you battle ... stupid, we know you can't fix stupid …

 Victoria Proffer - President/CEO

 www.ShowMeBroadband.com

 www.StLouisBroadband.com

 www.FarmingtonForum.com

 314-974-5600

 -Original Message-
 From: Stuart Pierce [mailto:spie...@avolve.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 7:30 AM
 To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Smith: Companies must save private data to 
 combatchild
 porn

 Well it would seem they don't want us around, afterall, the less players
 there are, the more control there is. The world is crazy and this is just
 one more reactionary move by inept people in charge. Closer to the root 
 of
 the problems needs to be addressed, but using the word of the day, they 
 are
 disconnected ( probably have fiber in their palaces ).

 -- Original Message --

 From: St. Louis Broadbandli...@stlbroadband.com

 Reply-To: li...@stlbroadband.com, WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org

 Date:  Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:22:28 -0600

 Same thing here from CNET:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html#ixzz1C6HMbtXG
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html
 Except they are saying it has to be saved for two years!  All browsing 
 data
 and email.
 Nice if you're a big ILEC and have endless funds .
 The more I look at the state of the broadband market today, I wonder if
 WISPs will exist in the next few years.
 Victoria Proffer - President/CEO
 www.ShowMeBroadband.com
 www.StLouisBroadband.com
 www.FarmingtonForum.comhttp

Re: [WISPA] Justice Department Seeks Mandatory Data Retention

[Stuart Pierce]

No kidding.your license plate light was out and so we pulled you over 
because that's a sign you may or may already be committing a revenue generating 
crime.

Ever wonder why they would pull you over for a rear license plate light being 
out when their headlights shine on your plate and they can call it in anyway ?

Hmm, things that make you go Hmm.


-- Original Message --
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:26:37 -0500

Department of Pre-Crime?

 

Regards,

Jeff
ImageStream Sales Manager
800-813-5123 x106

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Justice Department Seeks Mandatory Data Retention

 

The following information is being provided to you 100% free of any added
flavorings, colorings, or editorial content. No animals were harmed in the
creation of this email. 


***

Criminal investigations are being frustrated because no law currently
exists to force Internet providers to keep track of what their customers are
doing, the U.S. Department of Justice will announce tomorrow. 

CNET obtained a copy of the department's position on mandatory data
retention--saying Congress should strike a more appropriate balance
between privacy and police concerns--that will be announced at a House of
Representatives hearing tomorrow. 



Data retention is fundamental to the department's work in investigating and
prosecuting almost every type of crime, Jason Weinstein, deputy assistant
attorney general for the criminal division, will say, according to his
written testimony. The problem of investigations being stymied by a lack of
data retention is growing worse. (See related
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029393-281.html  article.)

LINK:  http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029423-281.html?tag=nl.e703
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029423-281.html?tag=nl.e703


**





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Re: [WISPA] new list

[Stuart Pierce]

LOL, funny how my history teacher was right about his saying, history repeats 
itself.

I remember being on the isp-wireless list and getting emailed about one 
sentence responses and emailed everyone I was done. So Mike started up the 
Part-15 lists.

Then it went from there to WISPA.

Then splintered to AFMUG and Butch's Mikrotik list.

Now we may be back to WISPA and the new wug.cc , although I do believe in 
neutrality, but no hard core bashing. Be a little mature ( although it's hard 
to say what age this begins ) about posts and put some forethought in responses.

Oh I almost forgot wisp-equipment, Judd's list.

-- Original Message --
From: support supp...@nitline.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:52 -0600

I don't see the list as a replacement but 1 more good tool in the tool box
think its more to replace AFMUG we are all getting sick of chuck getting 
angry



On 1/24/2011 12:11 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1


 Um people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not
 warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do you
 feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are legitimate
 concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a threat to the
 industry, then voice them.

 Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything done.
 It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has constructive
 criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get
 something done.

 I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting and
 not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new threads
 on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs quite well.
 I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it. Numerous
 products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary, and
 called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of the WUG
 list.

 We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it will
 be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry.
 Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face of
 the industry, because it makes better material for the sensationalist
 media.

 I realize that as business owners, we have very strong opinions and
 value our independence and rights. However we must also keep in mind
 that we as an industry are under attack on a continuous basis. WISPA has
 provided a focal point for us to coalesce around as an industry. They
 have continuously shown a deep understanding of how to keep the industry
 growing. They have produced a number of products (3.65 regs,
 whitespaces, dfrs etc.) These end products take substantial amounts of
 time and effort to produce. They have seen how the sausage is made, and
 not been afraid to get their hands dirty.

 I hope to join WISPA in the near future and contribute my support. I've
 been slowly ramping up my WISP and preparing to roll out a broad beta.

 I should get back to that now, have a demo due by the end of the week

 On 01/24/2011 09:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 To be entirely neutral.  We can't bash WISPA if we wanted to, for example.
 We can't bash a company that is affiliated with WISPA.  Probably not the
 best example, but this way we are entirely free to do what we want.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Steve Barnesst...@pcswin.com  wrote:

 Not sure of the reason for this Post here.  Isn't the wireless@wispa.org a
 free non-vendor specific list?  Is this a post to pull users from WISPA?

 Steve Barnes


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:36 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] new list

 Hi,

 In an effort to create a neutral discussion forum, a new mailing list has
 been created called Wireless Users Group. This list is 100% free, and is 
 not
 tied to any product or service being sold. It is hosted on a free server,
 with free bandwidth and free administration. No fees or vendor sponsorship
 will ever be asked by this new list.

 To subscribe to this new list, send an email to users-requ...@wug.cc with
 subscribe in the subject field.

 We support many of the wireless pioneers in this industry such as Motorola,
 Wireless Beehive, and WISPA. We would just prefer a vendor neutral list 
 that
 allows discussion of any product (whether good or bad) so that we can all
 learn.

 __
 Wireless Users Group us...@wug.cc



 
 WISPA Wants You! Join today!
 http://signup.wispa.org/

 

 

Re: [WISPA] new list

[Stuart Pierce]

Hear here, join up, it can not hurt. Our small niche industry needs a 
collective voice much as other industries have and yes at this time WISPA is 
it. Our industry drives the bigger boys and grows innovation whether anyone 
wants to belive it or not. We keep them on their toes and you have to think to 
yourself, would the big boys be where they are as soon without us ?

( insert girls where needed for political correctness )


-- Original Message --
From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:40:41 -0500

We have tried to learn from others mistakes in the past and adjust our
mailing list rules to our subscriber's requests as necessary.  There is
unfortunately a segment of our industry that believes WISPA is a vendor and
we are out to sell memberships (get in their pocketbook).  It almost offends
me in a way as I look at all of the volunteer efforts from across the
country that has gone into building our trade association.  The way I look
at it, WISPA is not selling memberships; it is seeking support for all of
the hard work and legal expenses that are incurred on behalf of the
industry.  Much as you support your local church, Elks lodge or any other
charitable organization.  The difference being, that most of the
accomplishments of WISPA are still accomplished by volunteer efforts with
the exception of legal and administrative functions such as my position,
hosting the webpages and accounting functions.  

 

I'm a realist and I know that we will never convince every operator of that.
However, I will continue to work diligently to develop programs, discounts,
marketing ideas and other things that potential members will see as tangible
benefits above and beyond the intangible lobbying and educational work that
we already do.  To all those that support WISPAThank you very much!  Our
voice is getting louder and more meaningful with every new member that joins
our efforts.  Join WISPA http://join.wispa.org/   As a team, we can
accomplish much, as individuals, we might as well through the towel in.

 

Respectfully,

 

Rick Harnish

Executive Director

WISPA

260-307-4000 cell

866-317-2851 WISPA Office

Skype: rick.harnish.

rharn...@wispa.org

 

 

 

 -Original Message-

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

 Behalf Of Stuart Pierce

 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:26 PM

 To: WISPA General List

 Subject: Re: [WISPA] new list

 

 LOL, funny how my history teacher was right about his saying, history

 repeats itself.

 

 I remember being on the isp-wireless list and getting emailed about one

 sentence responses and emailed everyone I was done. So Mike started up

 the Part-15 lists.

 

 Then it went from there to WISPA.

 

 Then splintered to AFMUG and Butch's Mikrotik list.

 

 Now we may be back to WISPA and the new wug.cc , although I do believe

 in neutrality, but no hard core bashing. Be a little mature ( although

 it's hard to say what age this begins ) about posts and put some

 forethought in responses.

 

 Oh I almost forgot wisp-equipment, Judd's list.

 

 -- Original Message --

 From: support supp...@nitline.com

 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

 Date:  Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:18:52 -0600

 

 I don't see the list as a replacement but 1 more good tool in the tool

 box

 think its more to replace AFMUG we are all getting sick of chuck

 getting

 angry

 

 

 

 On 1/24/2011 12:11 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:

  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

  Hash: SHA1

 

 

  Um people bash WISPA on this list occasionally. It's usually not

  warranted. There are a few trolls that like to make trouble. Why do

 you

  feel that we can't bash WISPA on this list? If there are legitimate

  concerns with the organization, and one feels they are a threat to

 the

  industry, then voice them.

 

  Also going on a list and complaining usually doesn't get anything

 done.

  It just wastes peoples time and bandwidth. If someone has

 constructive

  criticism, and a well reasoned argument/position, that will get

  something done.

 

  I've subscribed to the WUG list. Hopefully it will be interesting

 and

  not a waste of time, however I will probably start various new

 threads

  on the WISPA list, as it has served my and many others needs quite

 well.

  I've been on the list since 2008 and been very happy with it.

 Numerous

  products/services/organizations have been praised when necessary,

 and

  called out when necessary. So I'm not quite sure the purpose of the

 WUG

  list.

 

  We will see what the WUG list does. My initial feelings, is that it

 will

  be a fringe list that ends up doing a lot of harm to the industry.

  Journalists will see lots of trolling and pick that out as the face

 of

  the industry, because it makes better material

Re: [WISPA] Figuring it out

[Stuart Pierce]

Are you utilizing AirMax ? If you are not using firmware 5.2.1, upgrade to that 
and the beta5 seems to be working as well.

-- Original Message --
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:54:00 -0800

Our network has a Ubiquiti 3.65 backhaul through an Adtran smart switch 
then to four rocket M5's plus some 2.4GHz radios plus a backhaul to 
another town.

Earlier this week we started getting calls from the Rocket customers who 
said their speeds were slow, primarily two of them pointing nearly the 
same direction, both have about 20 on them.  We worked on the settings 
for the backhaul... fixed.  Then today it started again.  Speedtest on 
three MB customers are 365K down and 1.5MB up.  The backhaul is pulling 
40MB and the pings to those complaining are perfect.  Another 5MB 
customer, 600K down and 800K up.

We don't know where to look, the switch is fairly new could that be it 
or could it be the radios pointing roughly the same direction are 
interfering but not affecting pings which is the normal symptom for 
that? vertical separation is 30 feet between the two rockets, one a 120 
the other a 90.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Forbes Mercy
Washington Broadband, Inc.



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Re: [WISPA] Wow- and how stimulus works

[Stuart Pierce]

Back to reality, now you really know what the stimulus money is for, back door 
debt paying.

-- Original Message --
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Dec 2010 01:20:49 -0500

Funny but sadly true. And no amount of stimulus can fix that.

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Chadd Thompson chad...@msn.com wrote:

  Bingo!


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 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *Robert West
 *Sent:* Friday, December 24, 2010 9:55 PM
 *To:* 'WISPA General List'
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wow- and how stimulus works



 Actually, the reality is, all the cash gets spent at Wal-Mart and ends up
 in China.







 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
 Behalf Of *RickG
 *Sent:* Friday, December 24, 2010 10:52 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wow- and how stimulus works



 #1: The hooker doesnt get to keep the $100 because her pimp took 90% of it.
 #2: The pimp ends up blowing it on his drug habit.
 #3: The drug dealer spends it on the hooker, back to the pimp, now we're
 stuck in a endless loop!

 Comments:
 A) The motel owner had no business stealing the $100 from the rich tourist.
 B) Nobody benefits except the pimp and drug dealer so further down goes the
 neighborhood and the optimism with it.
 C) This is a perfect example of what is wrong with debt.
 D) The ends never justify the means.

 *If that's how stimulus works, then I want no part of it!

 On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
 wrote:

 MDK- just for you.  :-}

 -Or

 It is a slow day in the small Minnesota town of Marshall, and the streets
 are deserted.  Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is
 living on credit.

 A rich tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel,
 lays a $100 bill on the desk and says he wants to inspect the rooms
 upstairs
 before selecting one for the night.

 1. As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs
 next door to pay his debt to the butcher.

 2. The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt
 to
 the pig farmer.

 3. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his
 supplier, the Farmer's Co-op.

 4. The guy at the Farmer's Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to
 the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to
 offer her services on credit.

 5. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel
 owner.

 6. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the
 rich
 traveler will not suspect anything.

 At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms
 are
 not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town.

 No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town
 is
 now out of debt and looks to the future with a lot more optimism.

 And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how Stimulus works.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Wow- and how stimulus works

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Ho, Ho, Ho.I think they just pay a little on the bills they owe and save 
some for some spiked egg nog.

-- Original Message --
From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:42:59 -0800

MDK- just for you.  :-}

-Or

It is a slow day in the small Minnesota town of Marshall, and the streets
are deserted.  Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is
living on credit. 

A rich tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the motel,
lays a $100 bill on the desk and says he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs
before selecting one for the night. 

1. As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs
next door to pay his debt to the butcher. 

2. The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to
the pig farmer. 

3. The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his
supplier, the Farmer's Co-op. 

4. The guy at the Farmer's Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to
the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to
offer her services on credit. 

5. The hooker rushes to the hotel and pays off her room bill with the hotel
owner. 

6. The hotel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the rich
traveler will not suspect anything. 

At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are
not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves town. 

No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town is
now out of debt and looks to the future with a lot more optimism. 

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Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg

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Let's meet at the Beck Tavern in German Village next week for a holiday meeting 
and discuss fiber pricing.

-- Original Message --
From: Jenco Wireless bradhagst...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:37:59 -0500

I've been good - not planning on going anywhere!  Just a quiet Lister!
On Dec 16, 2010 5:21 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:
 How you been Brad!? Glad to see your still around.



 -Kurt



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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jenco Wireless
 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg



 I'm paying a little more - $2500 for 40 Megs. I feel ripped off !!! There
 is a 10% margin built in, so its really 44 Megs (Important to know with
 Butch's QOS)

 On Dec 16, 2010 9:06 AM, Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net wrote:
 This isn't in Ohio but when we were upgrading our TW fiber in Idaho,
 the saleswoman said she can't do any special pricing on circuits
 less than 100M, we are around $20/M now.

 -Kevin



 On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:
 Really? Guess I shouldn't complain when they sold me the 30/30 for $1600
 then, I was trying to get the 50/50 and so far they are only coming down
 to
 about $2300 for it.



 

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Robert West
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:10 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg



 They seem to have an across the board 800 bucks or so for 10/10 and 1600
 for
 20/20 Negotiable but not much. All the statics you need included.







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
 Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:01 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner fiber OHIO price per meg



 Whats everyone paying price per meg for Time Warner dedicated internet
 access here in Ohio?







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Re: [WISPA] OT Laptops....

[Stuart Pierce]

eBay Big Bob, I just got a notebook/laptop replaced for $182. Like you I don't 
need it to do much cpu intensive tasks, just get into antennas, configure, test 
and show the customer some youtube videos.

-- Original Message --
From: bmoldas...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:11:44 -0500

Anyone have a source for new netbooks or small laptops with Win XP operating 
system?  Looking for something sub $600.  Using it strictly for programming 
equipment and running diagnostics.  Not doing anything CPU intensive.  
Unfortunately we are running quite a few programs that don't play well with 
WIN 7. 

Tnx 

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Re: [WISPA] Problems with facebook and hotmail

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15megs for 120 people, obviously depending on packages, should be enough.

-- Original Message --
From: Optimum Wireless Services wil...@optimumwireless.com
Reply-To: wil...@optimumwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 25 Nov 2010 14:28:15 -0400

Travis, thanks for replying. I first thought I didn't have enough
bandwidth but, I have three 5meg lines. Previously I only had 2 and
things were worst. After adding the additional line things got better
but, not really good. 

Our three lines are connected to tp-link load balancer then to our gw
running debian which throttles user's bandwithd at 512kbps download, not
able to throttle upload bw yet. Also this gw is running squid for cache.

You still think I need to add another line?


On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 07:42 -0700, Travis Johnson wrote:
 I would guess you are running out of bandwidth. 5meg isn't much for 120 
 customers, especially since most of them are probably trying to use it 
 at nearly the same time (6:00PM - 10:00PM).
 
 Travis
 Microserv
 
 
 On 11/25/2010 6:45 AM, Optimum Wireless Services wrote:
  Hello.
 
  Lately my customers have been experiencing problems accessing facebook
  and hotmail. They claim they can't access their email on hotmail after
  entering their credentials and can't see pictures and other people's
  profile on facebook. Don't know if is our network or what. We have 3
  5mbps/1mbps dsl lines that really give us 4.5/800. We have about 120
  customers and have complained so much about it that is already getting
  on me.
 
  Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced problems with these
  two websites.
 
  Thanks in advanced.
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients

[Stuart Pierce]

If it is just a panel as the antenna/ap, then it sounds like an interference 
issue, power supply issue or rma issue.


-- Original Message --
From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sun, 21 Nov 2010 19:12:49 -0800

This last time I dropped a total of 5 clients, at about 5 - 15 minutes 
intervals. Then in about 1 hour they suddenly appeared.
I still don't get it.
NGL
  From: ~NGL~ 
  Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


  Rained yesterday, bright and sunny today.
From: Jerry Richardson 
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 5:05 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


Getting any weather or wind?

Jerry Richardson 
Sent Mobile

On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:54 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:


  Spoke to soon, starting to drop clients. 
From: ~NGL~ 
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 4:28 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


Been up 23 hours since I changed channels, no dropped clients or other 
 problems.
Keeping my fingers crossed.
NGL
  From: RickG 
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 8:35 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


  I understand that. I hope the frequency change helps. Let us know.


  On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

Your partially right Tower is only 65 foot, but difficult to get 
 to in good weather using a quad, and it has been raining all day. No one want 
 to climb a tower in the rain. I have changed channel and it seems to be 
 stable. I hope!
NGL
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:43 PM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


  I take it the tower is fairly high so you're resisting climbing 
 to swap it out?


  On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:28 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:

Noise was the same as it always is 91 - 94 range, and is the 
 same this morning.

We had some light rain yesterday started about noon, and 
 rained on and off, the same thing this morning.
We had some very hard rain and strong winds the end of 
 October, and encountered no problems.
I am going to try switching channels with another AP on that 
 tower .
NGL
  From: Bret Clark 
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 9:14 AM
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


  Did it rain recently? We had a similar problem where the 
 antenna was not sealed tight and everytime it rained hard clients would drop 
 off, but after a few hours of sun shining on the system they'd be fine until 
 the next heavy rain storm. The thing that threw us off was that light or 
 normal rain that didn't last long didn't seem to affect the antenna, only 
 heavy rain with maybe some wind thrown in the mix. 

  Then on a different note, we've recently been battling an 
 issue where on one of our 5GH systems clients were all dropping off at very 
 random times...Turn out damn BAE systems down the road was testing frequency 
 hopping radar crap and every time it hopped into the frequency we were using, 
 the clients dropped off. 


  On 11/20/2010 12:02 PM, ~NGL~ wrote: 
All the clients came back on line about 10 pm last night. 
 and are still on line this morning.
I don’t get it!
The AP is a TR-902 11f which has an internal antenna.
The clients that were were dropped were a mix of nearest 
 and furthest from the AP.
Thanx
NGL
  From: Phil Curnutt 
  Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:51 AM
  To: WISPA General List 
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dropping Clients


  Put a power meter between the AP radio and the antenna 
 and make sure the radio is putting out the power it should.  Also check the 
 SWR, should be about 1.3/5.  I would guess that the clients being dropped are 
 the ones furthest away, if the AP is losing power or the antenna is wet or 
 damaged and losing signal.

  Phil


  On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:41 PM, RickG 
 rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes. Since you said  it has now dropped 15 of 20 that 
 are connected to that AP. I would suspect there is an issue with that AP. 
 I'd swap it out with a known good AP and see if that helps. Otherwise, you 
 may be having some interference issues on that sector which would mean you'll 
 need a cavity filter. 

Re: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

[Stuart Pierce]

'Just a bit outside' - Bob Euchre

-- Original Message --
From: Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:20:44 -0500

According to the WISPA member's map, Avolve, Country Connections, NexGen
Access and Jenco have Grove City surrounded.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=enie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401
631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.
707031z=3
ie=UTF8source=embedmsa=0msid=107401631252076199983.00047f857c057af1036e4
ll=39.027719,-95.625spn=47.209373,74.707031z=3

 

Rick

 

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Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] service in Grove City, OH

 

Someone please help this guy.

 

 

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From: John A Sterling [mailto:john.a.sterl...@jpmchase.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:33 PM
To: k...@wavelinc.com
Cc: johnasterling...@gmail.com
Subject: wavelinc

 

I saw your web page about your service in Bucyrus.  My mom lives on the
outskirts of Grove City Ohio and I'm looking for a service like yours in her
area.  I know that you don't have service down there but thought you might
know another provider.  She currently uses verizonwireless but the signal
was so weak I had to install a directional antenna on the roof.  With that,
she now gets -78dB but the speed is still around 300kbps and she pays
$60/month.  Your site claimed a lot better than that.

 

Please let me know what providers you are aware of near her area.  Here is
here address if you need it:

3836 georgesville Wrightsville Rd., Grove City, OH 43123

 

Thanks,

John

 

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Re: [WISPA] a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shieldedcable

[Stuart Pierce]

Do it before hand to make sure the cable works or just replace the one that's 
up there.

-- Original Message --
From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net
Reply-To: fai...@snappydsl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:51:16 -0500

Look up ... EZ RJ45 Crimp system made by Platinum tools...

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
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On 11/12/2010 5:41 PM, support wrote:
 is there  a more simple way to crimp Shielded Rj45 on shielded Cat5 cable

 getting the jacket to fit in the Rj-45 end is vary hard 100ft in the air
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT AUTO Channel

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I guess that would have been my first 'computer' that I personally bought. Then 
came the Tandy 1000, traded in my Odessey game console to knock off some from 
the price tag.

-- Original Message --
From: Roger Howard g5inter...@gmail.com
Reply-To: ro...@g5i.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:37:19 -0600

My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_VIC-20

But it didn't have a screen :(

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:33 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 LOL! Here we go again with the dating game :)
 My first laptop was this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Portable
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PortableIt was really cool but weighed
 as much as sewing machine which was the term we gave it.
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Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902

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Haven't had that problem, but we are not on 5.0.5, try going backwards in 
firmware and see what happens.

-- Original Message --
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Re: [WISPA] Content Filter

[Stuart Pierce]

untangle.com ?

-- Original Message --
From: Scott Vander Dussen sc...@velociter.net
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Date:  Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:49:58 -0800

Recommendations on content filtering software?  I'm aware of OpenDNS, thanks..

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Re: [WISPA] Hacking Tranzeo

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Imagine interoperability of a TDMA type operation, you'd be free again to user 
different manufacturers in low supply instances or what have you.

Imagine there's no problem, mixing cpe's, it's easy if you try. - John Lennon 

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:47:05 -0400

Ryan,
I like all those Tranzeo options as well.  I did not know the ram was so tight 
on them.  I just thought that the ability to put ROS on them and if it worked 
with Nstreame2 would solve some of my over populated towers.  I really need 
TDMA or some Universal Timing mech that works cross vendor.  I like Tranzeo 
and truthfully I have a very stable network with them.  I like UBNT CPE's and 
have started using them as my only supplier for backhauls.  But I use Mikrotik 
for all my AP's.  My network design is such that I use a hotspot for radius 
authentication and queue creation for speed control.  I would never use 
Tranzeo as an AP.  I don't want to change all my controls to change to UBNT 
Rockets.  I need a TDMA that works with MT, UBNT, Tranzeo, Engenius, DD-WRT, 
etc

Guess I shouldn't hold my breath. :(

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Ryan Spott
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hacking Tranzeo

What is missing from the CPQ-X line?

Let's see,
Text based config file upload.
TFTP mass install for the warehouse.
Config changes via simple curl statement (en masse)
SNMPread for 'important stuff' (there should be MORE!)
Pretty solid mounting (Oh god, do I hate that boot too though!)

Remember, with only enough ram to really keep track of only 8 or so clients 
behind them, don't use them as routers in larger commercial installs, use them 
as bridges.

Yeah, the web interface blows chunks compared to the UBNT stuff, but look at 
the hardware. Keep it simple and functional, not pretty. But yeah, the web 
interface blows chunks.

Now if only the company would join WISPA...

ryan


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 6:44 AM, support 
supp...@nitline.commailto:supp...@nitline.com wrote:
is there any other OS that would work on the Tranzeo TR-CPQ??

it sure would be awesome if we could put ubnt 3.6 firmware on there or 
something

i have 50 TR-CPQ-15's rendered useless right now due to them never getting 
there firmware right
would be awesome if someone could hack it ;)


On 10/25/2010 10:19 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

Ram  Bootstrap would be the challenge.  Not saying it can¹t be done, just

would be a challenge.









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Re: [WISPA] Webcam

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stardottech.com http://www.buckeyeocean.com and click on camera if you want to 
see one.

-- Original Message --
From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:30:00 -0500

 A group of radio stations that I provide phone and Internet service would 
 like to setup a webcam in a few of their studios to stream video to their 
 website. Any suggestions on hardware and configuration?

Anyone know of a POE camera that supports PPPoE and simply FTP's a
JPEG every ~60 seconds?

Matt



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Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?

[Stuart Pierce]

No doubt, we have politicians that live in a fantasy world while we live in 
reality. I'm still waiting for mandatory licensing of wireless routers.

-- Original Message --
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:55:34 -0400

What a racket. All I can say is Big Brother.
Add another Bill to the list to fight and burn.

I do find it ironic though, how classic Sci-Fi literature finds a way to 
evolve into current day reality politics.
Sometimes I think these law makers either did not read enough as kids, or 
then again maybe they read to much.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] anyone know what this is about?


  I'm thinking the Gov'mnt  will not know for sure if there is a
 backdoor or not without trying it, and with just a few more clicks they
 are monitoring some guy at random and so we WILL be checked at random
 for our Protection.
 There goes the whole warrant thing right there. I am sure it works for
 them, Not Us.




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 I heard about this on the Tech News Today podcast. Folks are not happy
 about it. It sounds like the end of encryption without back doors,
 without the govt having the keys.





 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity 900

[Stuart Pierce]

Where did you get the RocketM9's ?

-- Original Message --
From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:56:27 -0700

Are the LocoM900's delayed, or not shipping yet? Seams odd to have
rockets + sectors with nothing reasonable to use for clients. Is it
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

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Well I really don't feel good saying TrafficXpress or whatever their latest 
incarnation is from Logisense, but see if that is something that you can use.

-- Original Message --
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:40:21 -0700

  Ya know I'd be a lot more patient for the smart a$$ comments if I 
didn't have to live through this, I've hired the best guys on this list 
to solve it and the only answer I get in the end is that shouldn't 
happen.  I can be non-geek enough to know if I can't hire the fix it 
ain't gonna work.  All the loyalists to a certain brand be it Mikrotik 
or Mac users can either say 'if he can't make that work here's our 
suggestion' or come sit in my chair for a while and wait for the 
hundreds of calls when a piece of gear just drops for no reason.  I've 
avoided Windows like the plague and run a 100% linux back end, every ISP 
I bought I converted to my format, you don't have to tell me horror 
stories I've been in this business since the beginning. I'm inferring to 
a more GUI type interface, hell it could be redhat for all I know, I'm 
looking for solutions not preferences.

On 10/14/2010 4:27 PM, Jeremy Parr wrote:
 Splendid idea there guy, replace Mikrotik with a Windows box. Gotta
 wonder I'd the problem is between the keyboard and the chair here.

 On 10/14/10, Forbes Mercyforbes.me...@wabroadband.com  wrote:
In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new
 bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or
 bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week).  I'm
 looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for Bandwidth Manager

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Over 50 and you get latency issues ?

-- Original Message --
From: Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:45:32 -0700

  Really Josh, you want me to rehash this?  To be simple I'm not a true 
geek, I barely speak linux and Router OS not at all.  Our network of 700 
over 12 towers is bridged, a big no-no but I can't keep radios up long 
enough to make us routed along with the growth sprut we've had this year 
(we 're averaging 3 installs a day with one installer/field tech).  
We've found that if you get over 50 on Mikrotik you start getting 
latency issues, four of our towers have over that.  When I was all 
Mikrotik (well 90% that 10% Moto) it worked great for about a year and a 
half, then the packet storms started, then radios started doing weird 
intermittent things like turning off.  Sure we did the obvious, change 
passwords, isolate the radios from the rest of the network but it just 
started to get worse, probably traffic driven from our ongoing growth 
that the greater demand for more bandwidth (we are 90% residential so 
Netflix type stuff).

To solve this we started replacing backhauls with Ubiquiti radios.  
Ubiquiti allows more traffic so the added pressure really started to 
take down the Mikrotik AP's, ports and bridges now drop with 
undiagnoisable (new word) regularity.  Then the bandwidth manager 
failed, Butch rebuilt it but for some reason the upgrade to 4.11 made 
failures happen more often that were like the AP's, dropped ports and 
bridges.  We compensated by making a path on the Ethernet side and 
in-network side so we could maybe ... (fix the disabled port/bridge) 
from either end.  We are spending all of our time building redundant 
this and redundant that until we realized one thing, on every outage 
Mikrotik's had cascading failures shutting down ports or turning off 
radios (disabling)  meanwhile Ubiquiti never went down, ever.  So we 
started pulling all Mikrotik backhauls, now we only lose AP's and the 
bandwidth manager.  Since the bandwidth manager takes the entire network 
down we want replace it.  Now you're up to speed on where we are, I call 
Mikrotik my 'backwards momentum' mover, we have to stop our forward 
motion on building and installing so we can restore service, it takes 
the fun out of this business thats for sure.

Forbes

On 10/14/2010 3:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Hrm why doesn't Mikrotik work?

 On Oct 14, 2010 6:15 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com 
 mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote:
  In my mission to rid our network of Mikrotik I need to shop for a new
  bandwidth manager since mine likes to randomly drop one of the ports or
  bridge, and reset the route gateway (twice already this week). I'm
  looking for a more friendly windows type based unit, any suggestions.
 
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Re: [WISPA] Should this happen? Probably not.

[Stuart Pierce]

acid rain ?

-- Original Message --
From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Thu, 30 Sep 2010 08:33:49 -0400

sorry messed up link:

http://www.midcoast.com/~cam/15dbi/


Thanks,
Cameron Kilton
Project Manager
Midcoast Internet Solutions
http://www.midcoast.com
c...@midcoast.com
(207) 594-8277 x 108

On 9/30/2010 8:30 AM, Cameron Kilton wrote:
 This is why we ask to beta certain products. This a 15dbi grid from Pac
 Wireless (Laird) whichever they are this year. This has been in service
 since 10/27/2007. The feedhorn rusted and snapped right off the grid.
 Granted it was maybe 100 yards from the shore, but this should not happen.

 http://.midcoast.com/~cam/15dbi

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

[Stuart Pierce]

Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?

-- Original Message --
From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500

input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
the second radio

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com 
wrote:
 Eh?  What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:

 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M.  I have a customer who wanted service,  was in  trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road.  Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete.  Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house.  That was 5 months or so ago.  At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service.  Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place.  Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy.  2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working.  I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole.  I
 figure, bad crimp…….  Take it down, make up a new wire to connect the 
 two, fires up.
 All good.  2 days later, same issue.  I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay.  2 days later, same thing.  I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2.  Couple of days later, no signal again.  I’ll also
 add I was getting some “weird”  lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of.  So I was fighting two battles.  Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty.  DUH!  I check it,
 apply, comes back empty.  I do it again, same issue.  I go out and I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give any 
 voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP.  GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums………….  It’s an issue.  After 
 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die.  Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

[Stuart Pierce]

Yea what if, I guess that sums it up, I'm done for the day go Arkansas  ( 
Cause if the Buckeyes can't win today, something's up ).

It's Beer:30

-- Original Message --
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:53:42 -0500

  What if a tractor drives through the tower?

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



On 9/25/2010 10:17 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
 Are you serious ? What if the poe checkbox gets unchecked ?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Philip Dorrwirel...@judgementgaming.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:37:58 -0500

 input power in the secondary port and use the main port to power
 the second radio

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com  
 wrote:
 Eh? � What ya mean???


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
 Behalf Of Philip Dorr
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:14 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Nano5M Secondary RJ45 Port PoE Burnout!

 It works perfectly fine if you power through the secondary port.

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:05 PM, RickGrgunder...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I was skeptical of the poe passthrough sicne I first saw it and this is 
 why.
 On repeaters, it would be so tempting to just run one wire but I've
 stuck with two. It will be interesting to see if it gets fixed. Thanks
 for sharing!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.com
 wrote:
 Today I finally figured out an Issue I’ve been having with a
 NanoStation5M. � I have a customer who wanted service, � was in � 
 trees
 but had a hot signal out at the road. � Dug a 4 foot hole, put in 2 10
 foot sections of rigid conduit and 5 bags of concrete. � Ran an
 underground line of Cat5e, double shielded and flooded cable with
 ground wire to his house. � That was 5 months or so ago. � At the
 beginning of August, he called me and said his neighbor wanted
 service. � Same trees so I took the AirGrid down, put up a Nano5M and
 plugged a Nano loco2 into the secondary port and shot it at a second
 Nano Loco2 at his place. � Replaced my weird Airgrid



 Worked perfectly, everyone happy. � 2 weeks ago I get a call, neighbor
 not working. � I go out, no power light on the Nano at the pole. � I
 figure, bad crimp……. � Take it down, make up a new wire to connect 
 the two, fires up.
 All good. � 2 days later, same issue. � I reset it all to defaults,
 reconfigure, all okay. � 2 days later, same thing. � I downgrade
 firmware to 5.2. � Couple of days later, no signal again. � I’ll 
 also
 add I was getting some “weird” � lag at the AP that this setup was
 feeding off of. � So I was fighting two battles. � Then today, I find
 that the PoE Pass Through check box is empty. � DUH! � I check it,
 apply, comes back empty. � I do it again, same issue. � I go out and 
 I
 can connect my laptop through the secondary port but it will not give 
 any voltage.



 I checked my lag time issue at the AP. � GONE!



 I then checked in the UBNT forums…………. � It’s an issue. � 
 After 20 days
 PoE on the secondary Nano port starts to die. � Replaced it with
 another Nano5M, working fine but looks like I’ll be coming up with
 another MacGyver solution to service this dude……….



 Just so ya knows.



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Re: [WISPA] Very poor quality when using Rocket M2 as AP vs usingStarOS

[Stuart Pierce]

What firmware version is on the Rocket2M ? Defintely give the 5.2.1 a shot.

-- Original Message --
From: Justin Mann justinl...@unwiredwest.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:50:20 -0700

I mentioned below they are a mix of StarOS and UBNT Bullet 2s... nothing 
else involved. A bullet 2 as an AP worked better for you, then? We might 
have to consider that.



On 09/24/2010 03:47 PM, RickG wrote:
 Same results on my first try as well. I swapped the Rockets back out 
 with Bullet2's and they work much better! I haven't had time to play 
 with them since. The 5GHz Rockets are a different story. They work 
 very well so I might just skip the 2.4 units altogether. 
 You didn't mention what CPE you have. I'm 50% Tranzeo, 50% UBNT. I 
 will say the M radios work very well with each other, just not very 
 friendly with G or B units. If you or anyone else figures out 
 something, please post. Its a shame to let $1000 of equipment go to waste!

 On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Justin Mann 
 justinl...@unwiredwest.com mailto:justinl...@unwiredwest.com wrote:

 Hello,

 We have been considering replacing our StarOS APs at a particular site
 with Rocket M2s. This site is very high up, and is composed of 6
 2.4GHz
 APs, 3 vertical, 3 horizontal. They face NW, W and SW, and are all
 using
 10Mhz channels in 802.11g operation mode.

 The busiest sector has about 30 clients on it. We replaced the
 Star unit
 (StarOS V3, using UBNT XR2 with 14 gain antenna) with a Rocket M2. The
 results so far have been pretty terrible. We can't adjust the transmit
 rate on these since the Rocket is an 802.11n device, but we are seeing
 performance far worse than we did with the Star AP. CCQ rates on
 the AP
 are often in the 20s and 30s, packet loss is high, latency is high and
 throughput is low. This is even with relatively low traffic on the AP.

 The CPEs are all a mix of StarOS CPEs and UBNT bullet 2s, and are all
 generally long-distance. Does anyone else have experience with a
 similar
 scenario, and have people had succeed using rockets as APs for 80211g
 clients?



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] The Big Dog Talks

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I really really do not like that AmeriWreck and SBC ( Same Bad Company ) hide 
underneath a name like ATT.

-- Original Message --
From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:40:45 -0700


ATT: Net rules must allow 'paid prioritization'

by Declan McCullagh

  

ATT said Tuesday that any Net neutrality plan restricting its ability to
engage in paid prioritization of network traffic would be harmful and
contrary to the fundamental principles of the Internet.

Telecommunications providers need the ability to set different prices for
different forms of Internet service, ATT said, adding that it already has
hundreds of customers who have paid extra for higher-priority services.

Our view is that if the Federal Communications Commission is going to be
making policy decisions on this front, it should base them on the facts, as
opposed to dogma, an ATT representative told CNET on Tuesday. In a blog
post, ATT vice president Hank Hultquist argued that the Internet
Engineering Task Force's specifications specifically permit paid
prioritization.

The flap over paid prioritization started a few weeks ago when Free Press, a
pro-regulatory advocacy group, sent letters (No. 1 and No. 2) to the FCC
dubbing the concept discriminatory and claiming it will only benefit the
few content giants that have deep enough pockets to pay for favorable
treatment.

In a telephone interview on Tuesday, Free Press research director Derek
Turner said that allowing paid prioritization would undercut the entire
concept of Net neutrality, which had its previous legal foundation swept
away earlier this year when a federal appeals court shot down the FCC's
attempt to punish Comcast for temporarily throttling BitTorrent transfers.

Since that ruling, liberal interest groups have been lobbying FCC chairman
Julius Genachowski for a new set of regulations, while a majority of members
of the U.S. Congress has opposed the idea. Google and Verizon responded by
announcing their own proposal, which includes a presumption that paid
prioritization on wired networks is illegal.

A ban on paid prioritization is the DNA of the open Internet, Turner said.
He called ATT's arguments a straw man, saying that: What ATT is
describing is a practice that we have no problem with, which is that an end
user can buy a T1 and set priority flags, and ATT respects those priority
flags.

Prioritization 'expected'
But the designers of the protocols that make up the modern Internet had
something a bit more ambitious in mind. In the late 1990s, the Internet
Engineering Task Force revised those standards to allow network operators to
assign up to 64 different traffic classes, meaning priority levels.

Free Press wants to force consumers to be charged higher rates to pay for
the construction of more broadband infrastructure than would be needed if
networks could be better managed, says Berin Szoka, a senior fellow at the
Progress and Freedom Foundation, which has been critical of new broadband
regulations.

A July 1999 IETF specification (RFC 2638) discusses paid prioritization by
saying: It is expected that premium traffic would be allocated a small
percentage of the total network capacity, but that it would be priced much
higher. Another specification (RFC 2475) published half a year earlier says
that setting different priorities for packets will accommodate
heterogeneous application requirements and user expectations and permit
differentiated pricing of Internet service.

Today that concept of differentiated services is referred to as DiffServ.
It's part of quality-of-service technologies that companies like ATT offer,
usually to business customers, that rely on DiffServ packet headers to group
different types of classes of service together. Real-time voice
communication may be ranked the highest, followed by financial transactions,
then e-mail, and finally bulk file-transfer protocols that aren't as
sensitive to brief slowdowns.

It's true that DiffServ markings are typically used inside corporate
networks to support applications like VoIP. But a video-conferencing site
that has connectivity through ATT could presumably use DiffServ to
prioritize its packets over, say, online shopping and BitTorrent
transfers--and keep that priority all the way to an ATT home customer.

Which is precisely the argument that ATT is making. In a strongly-worded
letter (PDF) sent Monday to the FCC, ATT says that the protocol
specification in no way limits the use of DiffServ to packets marked by
'end users,' as opposed to content providers or network operators.

The (FCC) should view with healthy skepticism the opinions it receives on
technical Internet matters from an advocacy group with no demonstrable
expertise or operational experience in those matters, ATT's letter says.
Paid prioritization over Internet access is not, as Free Press maintains,
some lurking future menace that 

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo lockups

[Stuart Pierce]

How old are they and what models may answer be the answer to why the lock up 
when you change them. I've got one TR-5a that I know I should go to be able to 
power cycle it if I make a change, and it's a few years old.


-- Original Message --
From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:05:15 -0600

I've been having quite a bit of problems with Tranzeo radios not coming
back online if I make a change to them remotely.  Usualy this is with
AP's or backhaul links.  I'd say about 30% of the time they will not
come back after making a change.

Is anyone else experiencing this?  Does UBNT ever have that problem, or MT?

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Re: [WISPA] no net but ping works

[Stuart Pierce]

What firmware version on the SL2's ? There was an issue until the latest with 
number of connections or something, either in routed or bridged or both.

-- Original Message --
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Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

[Stuart Pierce]

Does it make you any money ?

-- Original Message --
From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:15:52 -0600

Already do takes 1-2Mbps at peak times.

Travis
Microserv


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 *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson
 *Sent:* Friday, August 13, 2010 4:05 PM
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 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] What to do with outbound bandwidth

  

 Ya we currently have over 200Mbps of available outgoing 
 bandwidth available and we already do hosting and co-location. :(

 Travis
 Microserv

 Josh Luthman wrote:

 Servers...game servers, voice (teamspeak/ventrilo) servers...?
  
 Maybe help the community with content distribution.
  
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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  
  
  
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Don Grossman d...@willitsonline.com 
 mailto:d...@willitsonline.com wrote:
   
 Hey there
  
As we get larger and larger pipes in to feed our customers what are 
 people doing with the excess outbound capacity?
  
 Thanks
  
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance

[Stuart Pierce]

But is it working now ?

-- Original Message --
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 6 Aug 2010 07:39:06 -0400

Well, Faisal was kind enough to log into the AP (Rocket5 w/5G-20 sector)
while I climbed up to align it. He said chain 0  1 were unbalanced. So, I
changed out the radio, antenna, cables. Balance issue fixed but throughput
to problem tower still bad. So, I went back to the problem tower and worked
on it all night. I climbed so many times I lost count. I'm almost out of
ideas. I did some spectrum analysis on a BM5 and a NanoBridge. I have
attached an AP screen capture, a map of the tower link and ping scans of the
2 stations (one works well, the other does not) same AP, different
locations.

BTW: BIG THANKS to Faisal. He worked with me until 2:30am! He would've gone
longer but I think he fell asleep while I was driving to the bad tower. I
going to get some shut eye myself now.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:48 AM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
 I've had several UBNT devices lose output power suddenly. Then one
side
 of the link is about 18-20 db lower than the other, and the throughput
goes
 away, badly.

 Do you have a large RXSL differences between sides on any link?

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 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:01 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Link - Poor Performance

 Here is a good one!

 I have a short link of about 3 miles from my main tower to another.
 On the main tower I have four UBNT 5G-20-90's with RockeyM5's running
 firmware 5.2. All have performed very well since I installed them
 earlier this year. On the other end at the problem tower I have a 26Db
 grid with a BulletM5 also running fw5.2. The link was doing well until
 two days ago. Then, the latency went through the roof. I assumed it
 was the radio but after switching it out twice, I decided to blame the
 antenna. So, I swapped out the grids multiple times. Then decided to
 try a Nanostation, and a Nanobridge but got worse results. I'd blame
 the sector on the main tower but another link on it remains working
 well. There is a topology difference between the working link and the
 poor link with the later being higher. There is some noise in the area
 but not unusual. What I do note is that the main tower does not see
 the far end very well (-78) and it should really be much higher. The
 receive rate is only 6.5Mbps.

 At any rate, I've got about 3 dozen subs on this tower and worked on
 it until 5am so I'm ready for some fresh input!

 Thanks in advance!
 -RickG




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Re: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio

[Stuart Pierce]

Network card ready to bite the dust.

-- Original Message --
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 6 Aug 2010 09:27:01 -0700

OK, here's a good one.

Have a long term customer that can't get internet all of the sudden.

Shows no cable plugged into his computer.

Had him try a laptop, it worked fine.

Next had him take his computer to a repair shop for a new nic card.  His 
computer DID work in town though.

Back home, it wouldn't work with the radio.

So I went out there to check this out.  My laptop would work just fine.  His 
desktop wouldn't.

I ended up installing a router and all is working nicely now.  His computer 
will talk to the router, but going right to the radio we show no cable 
connected.

Anyone seen this before?

I assume this is being caused by some kind of voltage miss match that the 
other devices aren't as sensitive to?

shrug
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Re: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio

[Stuart Pierce]

Especially the TR-CPE-200's

-- Original Message --
From: Terry Hickey thic...@rockies.net
Reply-To: Terry Hickey thic...@rockies.net,WISPA General List 
wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 6 Aug 2010 10:56:52 -0600

I have had Tranzeo radios go fubar so they only will connect if the 
connecting computer/nic is set at 10 Mb

Terry

- Original Message - 
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: [WISPA] computer won't connect to radio


 OK, here's a good one.

 Have a long term customer that can't get internet all of the sudden.

 Shows no cable plugged into his computer.

 Had him try a laptop, it worked fine.

 Next had him take his computer to a repair shop for a new nic card.  His
 computer DID work in town though.

 Back home, it wouldn't work with the radio.

 So I went out there to check this out.  My laptop would work just fine. 
 His
 desktop wouldn't.

 I ended up installing a router and all is working nicely now.  His 
 computer
 will talk to the router, but going right to the radio we show no cable
 connected.

 Anyone seen this before?

 I assume this is being caused by some kind of voltage miss match that the
 other devices aren't as sensitive to?

 shrug
 marlon



 
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Re: [WISPA] Strange problem

[Stuart Pierce]

Sure they weren't 169.254.whatever,whatever ?

-- Original Message --
From: richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:18:01 +0100

They are not like any of my address ranges from what I remember is
that they were 192.254.?.? each time.

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Re: [WISPA] IPPay

[Stuart Pierce]

Personal information ? You would think current usage of another processor such 
as ex-Verisign now PayPal, would be sufficient joining credentials with just 
pertinent bank information.

-- Original Message --
From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net
Reply-To: wa4...@arrl.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:19:04 -0400

  On 07/23/2010 03:08 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I tried but they insisted that I give them all of my personal information in
 order to sign up.  We are a C Corp.  My attorney has sternly told me to NOT
 mix anything person into the corporation so we were not able to do any
my old boss just said the same thinghe passed...wonder where this is 
coming from?

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Re: [WISPA] Friday Laugh

[Stuart Pierce]

What's wrong with that ?

-- Original Message --
From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:24:17 -0500

  I understand you don't want the antenna on your roof, mam.
Is there some other place you can mount it?.
Yes there is one other place that we can mount it and still get through 
the trees...

http://wifimw.com/pics/redneck_install.jpg




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Re: [WISPA] Friday Laugh

[Stuart Pierce]

Heavens to maggetroid, exit stage left.

-- Original Message --
From: Adam Kennedy adamkenn...@omnicity.net
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:20:44 -0400

Or cease even.

--
Adam Kennedy
Network Engineer
Omnicity, Inc.

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Friday Laugh

Maybe a picture from a distance would have been better.

People will never seize to amaze.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Jim Patient 
sa...@jeffcosoho.commailto:sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:
 Just struck my funny bone because it was too obtrusive for her roof
but not for her front porch.

Jim


On 7/16/2010 2:17 PM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
 What's wrong with that ?

 -- Original Message --
 From: Jim Patientsa...@jeffcosoho.commailto:sa...@jeffcosoho.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org
 Date:  Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:24:17 -0500

   I understand you don't want the antenna on your roof, mam.
 Is there some other place you can mount it?.
 Yes there is one other place that we can mount it and still get through
 the trees...

 http://wifimw.com/pics/redneck_install.jpg



 
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Re: [WISPA] Rural Telco in Washington Gets $17,763 per line

[Stuart Pierce]

I apologize, but WT% !?!? What and where is the documentation about this change 
to USF, the plan to put WISP's out of business once and for all. Who in their 
right mind would be in or start a WISP, when it's crazy enough already ? 

May as well fine Gilbert for calling Lebron James names when he left Cleveland.

-- Original Message --
From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date:  Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:41:07 -0400

At 7/13/2010 12:31 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
That's a double edged sword... You don't pay into USF currently as
WISP's are not classified as such.  Then if we are, we'd have a hard
time at it, but we'd be eligible for those funds.

Try again, Chuck.

The pending FCC proposal is a bit worse, where bit is roughly the 
size of the Grand Canyon.  It basically says that USF taxation, now 
at 15%, will be extended to ISPs.  BUT it also says that eligibility 
to collect USF will be limited to one company in a given geographic 
area, rather than the competitive situation now allowed.  This is how 
they will control costs, without limiting how much an ILEC can 
get.  (It is almost literally a blank check. I have an article about 
this on my web site and TMCnet column.)  So if you are not the ILEC, 
you can't become Eligible. But you may still be taxed in order to pay 
the (Eligible) ILEC to operate as an ISP, without its offering even 
common carrier DSL (which they have to today in order to be 
Eligible).  They in turn will be subsidized to the extent required to 
make their prices as low as urban rates.  In other words, you are 
taxed to pay them to compete with you.

I am finishing up editing my Comment in the current FCC Broadband 
Internet NOI.  My comment on USF, which I won't actually include in 
the final submission, is that their treatment of WISPs is tantamount 
to the Chinese policy of billing the families of executed prisoners 
for the bullet.


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