Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??
It was $3500 to start, $1000 min a month, but the deal killer was the 5 year contract. Dave > On Feb 14, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote: > > The deal killer so far for us has been needing transport to real choice > instead of being able to use the Internet to deliver. > > Also the quality has not been the greatest in the demos we've seen. > >> On Feb 14, 2017, at 17:41, Brian Young <byo...@converge-tech.com> wrote: >> >> Jan, CTI is an acronym for ConVergence Technologies, Inc. I will have an >> account manager reach out off list. >> >> thank you >> >> >> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 edge. >> >> >> Original message >> From: Jan-OOLLC <j.vank...@oregononline.net> >> Date: 2/14/17 5:20 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV?? >> >> Been trying to make contact with Real Choice, they don't seem to call back. >> It's a matter of adding 5-6Mbps to the client? Is an additional server >> needed? Who is CTI? >> Jan Van Kort >> >> Manager: Oregon Online, LLC >> >> PO Box 71, Coquille, OR 97423 >> >> Office: 541-435-0509, Cell: 541-404-7001 >> >> >> >>> On 02/14/2017 01:31 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>> They just can't stop marketing to your customers. Once you give them Dish >>> Satellite, they will bundle in other services in the bills and continually >>> blast them with commercials on all the channels they serve, including gift >>> card offers, etc. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck >>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> The price includes support with server plus...so them. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Who supports it, you or them? >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>> Hi William, >>>>> >>>>> The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the same >>>>> as Netflix and Hulu. We really didn't need to "budget" any more >>>>> bandwidth capacity because our clients are already streaming video. >>>>> >>>>> As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and they >>>>> can give you their pricing. >>>>> >>>>> We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub >>>>> to our bottom line. >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell >>>>> <cbardwel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Sean, >>>>> >>>>> I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and >>>>> network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>> Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and >>>>> advertise heavily to get them to use DSL. I've personally never sold >>>>> satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself. >>>>> >>>>> We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live >>>>> streaming TV with local channels. They are a WISPA member. >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope <sp...@arbuckleonline.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Hello All, >>>>> >>>>> We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity" to >>>>> bundle with them and their Satellite TV product. The representative has >>>>> told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of >>>>> the country. I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or >>>>> failure stories to share? I am cautiously optimistic of the idea. I am >>>>> just looking for feedback. >>>>> >>>>> Thank You in Advance! >>>>
Re: [WISPA] A sad day for All
This is so sad. Grant was a great guy. I enjoyed the many talks we've had. RIP my friend, you'll surely be missed by many. *Dave Thomas* | Director of Client Relations | visp.net - Direct: 541-955-6905 | Fax: 541.471-0821 | Cell: 541-218-7880 301 NE 6th Street | Grants Pass, OR 97526 | Main: 541.955-6900 /Inspire exceptional service! Post your positive reviews here:/ http://www.visp.net/our-partner-isps-feedback <https://visp.net/our-partner-isps-feedback> WISP Billing and Automation- Streamline, Take Control, and Grow On 9/20/2016 9:09 AM, Trina Coffey, Director of Operations wrote: Hello WISPA is saddened to learn of the passing on September 19, 2016 of longtime WISPA member and good friend Grant Spradling. Grant was involved in an accident a few days ago and succumbed to his injuries. Our hearts and prayers go out to Jennifer and the rest of the Spradling family. If you would like to help the family, a Go Fund Me page has been set up. https://www.gofundme.com/2pr6z5sk?ssid=743233687=1 The world has lost a little of its sparkle with the passing of Grant, we will miss him. Respectfully, Trina Coffey Director of Operations WISPA 260-622-5775 direct 866-317-2851 ext. 102 (US only) 530-227-6696 cell www.wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org> Come see us at WISPAPALOOZA <http://www.wispa.org/Events/WISPAPALOOZA>!! ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product
Back to the original question, is there anything else out there that does what Procera can do? On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens asteph...@ptera.com wrote: I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera through Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using their web based support system. -- Arthur Stephens Senior Networking Technician Ptera Inc. PO Box 135 24001 E Mission Suite 50 Liberty Lake, WA 99019 509-927-7837 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera - This message may contain confidential and/or propriety information, and is intended for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith wi...@mncomm.com wrote: So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do similar functions that may be more cost effective? I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back from some actual users of their product or other similar products. Thanks Heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast
I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few years ago on a flat roof. _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joey Craig Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are free for the asking most of the time from area businesses. On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman haw...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each. Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher. Or do you have another suggestion for mounting? Thanks in advance, Josh ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
Thanks Josh, We've tried that, a bit, more than a bit, pulled to the breaking point, none of that makes a difference. We've tried multiple crimping tools. We can put a non-shielded connector on and it snaps right in. We didn't notice this issue until these last three boxes purchased in late May. That's why I ask if others have seen this. Looking at the connector under a magnifier, I can see a difference between tabs on them and other shielded and non-shielded connectors. The difference is the distance from the front of the connector to the tab's indentation made where it snaps and locks. I haven't gotten the caliper out to measure yet and can't seem to get a good picture with the camera we have here today. I will bring in a camera tomorrow and see if if I can get a picture of them side by side. It happens to NB's we've had in the field for more than a year as well. I have a few connectors from CTI left that don't have that issue. Plug in, snap, just don't like the way the ground attaches to the connector. Thank you, Dave _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Pull the tab out a bit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 23, 2013 4:26 PM, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: We found the last 3 boxes of Tough connectors we've purchased have had issues staying snapped into NanoBridges. They just won't snap in and work their way out just enough to cause failure over time. No issues with any other radio's - just NB's. Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Dave _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181 tel:%28509.982.2181 ) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Yes. There are two styles. One has no metal shielding, the other does. Both are expensive (relatively) but I'm addicted to them. I love not having to worry about how far back I strip things. Not having to worry about wires crossing when pushed into the connector (I can check them before crimping) etc. http://ezrj45.com/ezrj45plugs.php?gclid=CLSDvLWfxrgCFWXZQgodwlQANg Marsh cable stocks them. marlon From: Kevin Owen mailto:ko...@fsr.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Do they support shielded cabling? Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181 tel:%28509.982.2181 ) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends We love the EZ-RJ45 units. Get them from Marsh Cable. It's the style where the wires go right through the ends of the connectors and the crimper crimps and cuts at the same time. HUGE time saver. marlon From: heith mailto:wi...@mncomm.com petersen Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends I was curious what shielded ends members are using. I typically use the cable that Cayman wireless sells, definitely not tough cable. I prefer the UBNT tough ends as I have no issues with them, however some of my techs dread them. I have purchased some other ends in the past but at a high premium. Anyways just looking for some ideas as I am getting out voted on the tough ends. thanks heith _ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
No just the NB's and just the last three boxes of Tough connectors that we can tell. I am going to look at our crimpers, but we have three and they all do the same thing. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Does it happen with any other product besides NB? It sounds to me like NB might be the issue, not the tab. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: Thanks Josh, We've tried that, a bit, more than a bit, pulled to the breaking point, none of that makes a difference. We've tried multiple crimping tools. We can put a non-shielded connector on and it snaps right in. We didn't notice this issue until these last three boxes purchased in late May. That's why I ask if others have seen this. Looking at the connector under a magnifier, I can see a difference between tabs on them and other shielded and non-shielded connectors. The difference is the distance from the front of the connector to the tab's indentation made where it snaps and locks. I haven't gotten the caliper out to measure yet and can't seem to get a good picture with the camera we have here today. I will bring in a camera tomorrow and see if if I can get a picture of them side by side. It happens to NB's we've had in the field for more than a year as well. I have a few connectors from CTI left that don't have that issue. Plug in, snap, just don't like the way the ground attaches to the connector. Thank you, Dave From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Pull the tab out a bit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 23, 2013 4:26 PM, Dave Hulsebus cont...@portative.net wrote: We found the last 3 boxes of Tough connectors we've purchased have had issues staying snapped into NanoBridges. They just won't snap in and work their way out just enough to cause failure over time. No issues with any other radio's - just NB's. Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Dave From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Yes. There are two styles. One has no metal shielding, the other does. Both are expensive (relatively) but I'm addicted to them. I love not having to worry about how far back I strip things. Not having to worry about wires crossing when pushed into the connector (I can check them before crimping) etc. http://ezrj45.com/ezrj45plugs.php?gclid=CLSDvLWfxrgCFWXZQgodwlQANg Marsh cable stocks them. marlon From: Kevin Owen Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Do they support shielded cabling? Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends We love the EZ-RJ45 units. Get them from Marsh Cable. It's the style where the wires go right through the ends of the connectors and the crimper crimps and cuts at the same time. HUGE time saver. marlon From: heith petersen Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends I was curious what shielded ends members are using. I typically use the cable that Cayman wireless sells, definitely not tough cable. I prefer the UBNT tough ends as I have no issues with them, however some of my techs dread them. I have purchased some other ends in the past but at a high premium. Anyways just looking for some ideas as I am getting out voted on the tough ends. thanks heith ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless
Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
We found the last 3 boxes of Tough connectors we've purchased have had issues staying snapped into NanoBridges. They just won't snap in and work their way out just enough to cause failure over time. No issues with any other radio's - just NB's. Has anyone else experienced this issue ? Dave _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Yes. There are two styles. One has no metal shielding, the other does. Both are expensive (relatively) but I'm addicted to them. I love not having to worry about how far back I strip things. Not having to worry about wires crossing when pushed into the connector (I can check them before crimping) etc. http://ezrj45.com/ezrj45plugs.php?gclid=CLSDvLWfxrgCFWXZQgodwlQANg Marsh cable stocks them. marlon From: Kevin Owen mailto:ko...@fsr.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:21 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends Do they support shielded cabling? Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends We love the EZ-RJ45 units. Get them from Marsh Cable. It's the style where the wires go right through the ends of the connectors and the crimper crimps and cuts at the same time. HUGE time saver. marlon From: heith petersen mailto:wi...@mncomm.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:50 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends I was curious what shielded ends members are using. I typically use the cable that Cayman wireless sells, definitely not tough cable. I prefer the UBNT tough ends as I have no issues with them, however some of my techs dread them. I have purchased some other ends in the past but at a high premium. Anyways just looking for some ideas as I am getting out voted on the tough ends. thanks heith _ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _ ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Fiber handoff to Mikrotik
I'm upgrading my data from the provider. It's fiber right now but hands off from the provider as Ethernet. The new circuit is going to handoff as fiber. Currently I'm using a RB493G router at my DEMARC, what Mikrotik router do you all recommend to take a fiber handoff? Thanks Dave Broadlinc Wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 34, Issue 34
Greetings. I will be on vacation from Oct 25th-29th. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2
The Redline AN-80i is FIPS 140-2 certified in both PtP and PtMP but they are 802.16 based not 802.11. They are also the most widely deployed COTS (commercial off the shelf) broadband radios in US DoD today. I hope this helps. redline(r) Communications David Rumore Territory Manager 120 Mystic Lane Jupiter, FL 33458 Phone: +1 561.741.0756 Fax: +1 561.741.1561 Mobile: 561.254.0758 e-mail: drum...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.comhttp://www.redlinecommunications.com/ Advancing Broadband Wireless P Think green before printing this email From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 Possibly RedLine or Alvarion, but I think they are only AES256. BridgeWave PtP has been our radio of choice for FIPS 140-2 requirements. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 We have a customer that is part of the Federal government, and they are looking for a FIPS 140-2 certified 802.11-based PtMP outdoor solution. Anyone have any ideas? Kevin IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders
I have customers that swear by these. http://www.veracityglobal.com/products/ethernet-and-poe-extension/outreach-max.aspx Only limitation seems to be that they are not weatherproof so you need to put them in a NEMA box or something. Dave -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 4:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] POE / Ethernet extenders Anyone used one on a tower to go beyond 100meters? I need to get higher than that on a tower and looking for solid recommendations. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 32, Issue 21
Greetings. I will be on vacation from Aug 10th-17th. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 31, Issue 10
Greetings. I will be out of the office (Salmon fishing) July 12th and back on Tuesday. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 30, Issue 27
Greetings. I will be out of the office today June 25th and back on Monday. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 900 MHz Vert Omni? 3 MTI 120 degree panels 4 sale....
Hello Gang, Great to be back with WISPA - too long out of the saddle here. I'm looking for advise about purchasing a 900 Mhz Vertical Omni Antenna (10dbi+) for my primary AP here in Carlisle (Dover) TN and at least two other locations to be deployed over the next few weeks. Also would like feedback about Ubiquity 900 MHz gear. We may very well dump canopy here in favor of a true spread spectrum product. We are pulling down 3 MTI MT-263004/NH 902-928 MHz 12.5dBi 120º Horizontal Pol. Base Station Antenna - for the right price these MAY be for sale (unless we can figure our how to convert them to V-POL) Looking forward to any and all responses - Thanks in advance, Dave -- Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC Bringing FAST InterNet to the Rest of Us! (sm) 3430 Highway 49 Dover TN 37058 d...@rtwb.net 931.232.0914 (office) 931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell) 931.827.4181 (home) Central Daylight Stupid Time WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30
Greetings. I will on vacation in Whistler, CAN for the Olympics Feb 22-25. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP
There is an FCC EIRP maximum of 30 dB in 5.4 GHz that will limit the range of any radio legally operating in this band. - Original Message - From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed Aug 19 12:47:59 2009 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP There's 250 MHz available in mid 5 GHz. It can easily do 10 miles on a PtP. With bigger dishes, it can obviously go farther. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:13 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bullet M5 HP Ubiquiti claims 150 megs of TCP/IP throughput, which is possible if you add upload and download as is common in the unlicensed world. I couldn't tell from any documentation whether they were 20 MHz or 40 MHz. The FCC certification wasn't overly clear, but I think it can do both. It can do both but require 40 MHz channels to achieve 150Mbps+ MIMO throughput and 100Mbps+ SISO throughput. Finding a 40 MHz window that is clean on both vertical and horizontal is quite a challenge these days. Rubens WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 20, Issue 11
Greetings. I will on vacation August 9th-14th. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 earth station contacts
You may want to check with Comsearch as they do the frequency coordination for most of these guys. They can probably point you in the right direction. www.comsearch.com David Rumore Territory Manager Phone: +1 561.741.0756 Fax: +1 561.741.1561 Mobile: 561.254.0758 e-mail: drum...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless - Putting WiMAX in Motion Think green before printing this email -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 earth station contacts I am now licensed for 3.65, but I have to get permission from an earth station (Andover ME), as I'm just inside it's 150km radius. The PDF showing the list of earth stations and exclusion zones looks useful, but is really just the start of a goose chase. The other ISPs in the states surrounding the earth station either have no 3.65 links registered, or the links fall outside of the zone. Had there been an ISP nearby that had gone through this, I would have checked with them. The call signs located at Andover when you go to register a location, or reference the PDF listing are not in the FCC ULS database. They are apparently FCC international bureau issued call signs and IB does not have a searchable online database and did not return my phone call. I can't find anything in the chamber of commerce business directory for Andover, the switchboard yellow pages for andover. The Andover earth station is owned by MCI/Verizon and I get the usually helpless script followers on the other end of the line, Sir, we just open up trouble tickets, or try calling this number in really poor english. Has anyone else been through this? How do I get the information needed to request an agreement? Thanks! -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 19, Issue 13
Greetings. I will be out of town July 13th-17th. During this time I will be checking email in the evenings but my responses may be delayed. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 16, Issue 34
Greetings. I will be out of town on April 27th and 28th. If your matter is urgent: For quote requests, send email to quo...@ctg3.com Additional support contacts: Bethany Crowell - (206) 383-8938 - bcrow...@ctg3.com Marti Perkins - (360) 425-1212 - ma...@ctg3.com Amy Matthews - (206) 245-3735 - a...@ctg3.com Heather Adams - (971) 207-5758 - heat...@ctg3.com Margaret Johnson - (253) 639-9536 - marga...@ctg3.com Beth Nichols - (509)838-1404 - b...@ctg3.com Gene Cleary - 206-686-3750 - g...@ctg3.com Dave Laskowski CTG3 - Senior Partner 425-458-4070 Voice 425-696-1337 Fax d...@ctg3.com www.ctg3.com --- PS: Always send pricing requests to quo...@ctg3.com for the fastest response --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble
On Sun 18/01/09 12:08 PM , e...@wisp-router.com sent: There is a tool in the imail folder I be damned if I recall the name of it but it is to convert from old mailbox format to new format. It might do the trick. I don't think it's just that - during the install process, I was asked if I wanted to convert my old mailboxes. I said yes, and it did its thing for about 90 minutes. A couple years ago, I looked at Smartermail, but they didn't support (at the time) the notion of a default domain, or automatically recognizing what IP address you were using. Thus, we'd have had to retrain all our users (and reconfigure a zillion computers) to use 'u...@domain.org' instead of just 'user' as their POP3/IMAP/Web login. The mailboxes are still there, and are perfectly accessible via POP3 and IMAP. It's just their Web interface that's broken (shrug) David Smith MVN.net - This message was sent via a PHP demo version of @Mail - http://atmail.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Redline AN100 Latest software?
2.0.26 is latest. I'll send to you off list. David Rumore Territory Manager Work: 561-741-0756 Mobile: 561-254-0758 Fax: 561-741-1561 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Redline Communications Inc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Redline AN100 Latest software? I have 1.2.24 on my AN100 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Needs - Antenna Mast
Cliff, We are buying 40 and 50 ft telescopic poles from Nello in Bremen, IN. I only buy them when we are ordering tower sections so we send our own truck and trailer. Not sure how much freight would be. Rohn makes a 30 - 40 - 50 ft. units as does Nello - they bought out portions of Rohn a few years back. Tessco carries the Rohn 50 ft for around $100. Thanks, Dave Hulsebus Cliff - iBook wrote: I am looking for another source for the typical TV antenna pole that we have been using. We have been purchasing 30 50' telescopic antenna masts from our local Lowes and Home Depot stores. Recently, they have stopped carrying these here. If anyone knows of another source for these at a reasonable cost, it would be appreciated. - Cliff WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security Survey
Tim, I didn't ask for an e-mail of the results to be sent to me. However, it might be appropriate to send a copy of the results to this list for discussion purposes. Thank you, Dave Hulsebus Tim McMicken wrote: Marlon_ I agree with you. However, I don't think the chair of my thesis committee would. He is the one who provided me the list of questions, which he received from phase one of a Delphi study. These are not questions he came up with but other candidates submitted as their largest concerns. Thank you very much for your insight and for taking time out of you day to help with the survey. I realize you did not finish it but I will include your comments and concerns in my final report. Again, I really appreciate your help and support. Very Respectfully, -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Security Survey Hi Tim, I started to take the questionnaire then stopped. It's really asking the wrong question. Those are ALL VERY important. But I worry about almost none of them. A question that I would be much more able to put realistic thought into would be what I think the ODDS are of x happening on my network. Not could it, but how likely I expect it to be. marlon - Original Message - From: Tim McMicken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:44 AM Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Security Survey Hey everyone, I am a masters student at Auburn University working on my thesis. I am conducting a survey on wireless security and would appreciate feedback from a knowledgeable audience in this 27-question survey. All responses will be completely anonymous; the data will be used only in summary form and neither you nor your company will be identified in any way. Please follow the link below to Polldaddy.com to complete the survey. http://www.polldaddy.com/survey.aspx?id=7816d9b6c4cd73c0 Thanks in advance -Tim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Vent pipe installs?
Gang, I'm FINALLY entering shake-down mode here and now I've thinking more about stuff that I've not considered. Have many of you mounted your CPE gear to customers roof-top vent pipes? If so are there any down-sides to doing so? It seems like a pretty stable mount to me but if there's a good reason not to do it, I'd sure like to hear it. Thanks -- Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC Bringing FAST InterNet to the Rest of Us! (sm) 3430 Highway 49 Dover TN 37058 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 931.232.0914 (office) 931.827.4181 (home) 931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell) Central Time WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WR 900 question
Chris, We had a similar situation this week and found that our cavity filter was the cause of our problem. I have a number of the 2.5db loss filters from WR we got five years ago. None have ever been mounted outdoors. When we opened it up we found calcium deposits in the copper tuning tubes. We user CLR to clean them and re-inserted in the filters - problem gone. I had a newer .5db loss filter in an attic of one of our buildings this past summer, gets up to 150F in the attic. That filter also had calcium inside. One day all the clients started dropping off line. That one didn't appear as noise, but as signal loss. An old machine shop guy told me that aluminum would draw moisture into it over time. Having been a physicist 30 years ago, I'm not sure I believe what he said but he's been around for 50 years doing metal work. Anyone else have a thought on aluminum drawing moisture through itself into the filter. Dave Hulsebus Portative Technologies chris cooper wrote: We have a WR 900 MHz cell that saw a sudden 10 db jump in noise. Running spec ans from other towers doesn't show this rise in noise in the same band. Doing sweeps from the tower using another device, albeit 600' lower than the affected ap, we still don't see the noise floor rise, even when we run a scan pointed straight at the ap. I know we cant exactly mirror conditions at the ap from a lower altitude, but shouldn't we see some of the noise that it is reporting? Im wondering if we have a bad piece of gear up there... CPE units seem to be receiving signal as normal, but ap side is having trouble hearing them. Could wet connectors cause behavior - we had torrential rain followed by high heat. Thanks Chris ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available til August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Subscriber Module Mounts?
Guys, I'm nearing an operational state here, at long last. Now I'm looking at the fiddly-bits that I've overlooked or minimized for some time. It has occurred to me that you must have a preferred brand or style of mounts for subscriber gear. (FYI - all my gear will be Motorola Canopy) I've seen a few mounts that are basically a pipe hanger bracket and a hunk of tubing, while there are others that are much more along the lines of SatTV dish installs. Advise of any kind will be warmly welcomed. My selection criteria has and always will be, Maximum bang for minimum practical bucks. I see no future in buying stuff that will have to be replaced in a year or two. That's penny-wise and pound-foolish. Thanks to all in advance. -- Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC Bringing FAST InterNet to the Rest of Us! (sm) 3430 Highway 49 Dover TN 37058 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 931.232.0914 (office) 931.827.4181 (home) 931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell) Central Time WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Cisco Wireless Bridges
Don, I did test the 1400 integrated units as a PtP bridge last summer for 60 days. Worked flawlessly. Never set it up as an AP though. I liked that it used two runs of 75ohm cable up the tower to the units with three grounding blocks along the 150 ft path. I didn't keep them because the Trango Atlas units we tested also preformed flawlessly and were half the price. I'm not sure it was the right decision as it was the Trango unit on that tower that took the lightning strike last night outside Louisville, nasty storms. Lost the protected POE, the radio, and the Ethernet surge on that line. None of the other 6 radios in use even had a hiccup but are all coax not POE. Heliax LDF7 LDF6 and 4.5. Now that I have it to do over again, I'll use elliptical coax for the 5.3 GHz link along with external antennas. I do have a used 1/2 Trango Atlas Bridge 5010M-INT for sale if anyone is interested. Otherwise I'll put it on eBay next week. First dibs goes to a WISPA member. Send an e-mail off list please. Dave Hulsebus Portative Technologies Don Annas wrote: Is anyone using the Cisco 1300 or 1400 series AP/Bridges? I know they are a bit pricing, but was curious how they performed in a noisy environment? ___ Don Annas Triad Telecom, Inc. 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 FAX [EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.TriadTelecom.comwww.TriadTelecom.com ___ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 10/3/2007 8:22 PM -- This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] - Opinion Request: SuperPass 900 MHz SPHDC4T (11dibi) 120 degree
Gang,
I'm about to purchase 3 120 degree sector antennae.
SuperPass Products SEEM like a helluva deal, relatively
The same MTI specs cost about $650 a copy.
SuperPass is offering me a 3 pack for about a Grand.
Before I jump, does anyone know of a down-side
to the SuperPass choice?
Thanks loads!
--
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
Bringing FAST InterNet to the Rest of Us! (sm)
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
931.232.0914 (office)
931.827.4181 (home)
931.627.1142 (cell - when not in cell-hell)
Livin' on Central Stupid Time ('til October)
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[WISPA] - Anyone use Moto's Prizm?
Hey gang,
Thanks for the advice about servers.
I'm working hard to get this thing lit up.
I'm wondering IF any of you have hands-on with Moto's Prizm
Server software?
I'm planning to run it under Red Hat Enterprize V4 - However
I have no feel for how strong a server I need to support it.
I'm having a helluva time finding real recommended minimum
hardware requirement.
The tech support guy I spoke to at Moto strongly discouraged
using AMD hardware, although I could not get a real reason for
that out of him. He fell back on Intel just works.
As I'm about as anti-WinTel a guy as you'll meet, I'm not
satisfied with that sort of answer.
Any thoughts? Comments? Yawns grin
Feel free to contact me off-list if that seems best.
Thanks loads,
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General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
Bringing FAST InterNet to the Rest of Us! (sm)
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
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[WISPA] DIY Server Questions
Hi Gang!
I'm finally, at long last building my Network Operations Center
and would love to hear recommendations from the brave
souls out there that build their own hardware.
I'm looking for recommendations for motherboards,
rack-mount case vendors, Rack vendors, etc.
I must admit I have a bias against Intel-based systems,
but would defer to experience supporting an Intel platform.
I will in every instance be running on flavor or another of Linux
for all my OS needs, should that have a bearing on the response.
My previous experience favors ASUS motherboards, and
good name-brand memory devices. I have lost faith in most
of the Disc Drive makers, however Shugart's 5 year warranty
is tempting me in their direction.
Any thoughts, comments, etc are welcomed.
If appropriate, you may contact me of list.
Dave Brenton
General Manager
Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband, LLC
3430 Highway 49
Dover TN 37058
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Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
Well, like I said, they intend to put a POP in each county. Dave On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand, and making it available are still the 2 things that have not happened. Also, in my neck of the woods, it is still 40 miles to the nearest POP. The terrain that is between myself and that pop would take multiple wireless hops. I once did a wireless study to that general area and it would take between 4-6 hops using 300ft towers. Zack On 8/3/07, Dave Hannum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zack, The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of the state colleges and universities operate of this thing, and I believe they said only about 1/16th of it's capacity is being utilized at this time. http://www.osc.edu/oscnet/ A fellow by the name of Kim Peters in Morgan county is very familiar with this project. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might talk to him and see how this is coming along. Dave Hannum On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network
Zack, The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of the state colleges and universities operate of this thing, and I believe they said only about 1/16th of it's capacity is being utilized at this time. http://www.osc.edu/oscnet/ A fellow by the name of Kim Peters in Morgan county is very familiar with this project. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might talk to him and see how this is coming along. Dave Hannum On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular governmant agency. This agency, if any, would have access to any governmant fiber and said there wasn't any available. If anyone would like to disprove me, please do, It would open up a lot more possibilities. Zack On 8/2/07, Felix A. Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike - My other comments are that local governments have un-used fiber capacity and therefore seeking ways of generating revenue. Such is the case with quasi goverment fiber too. For example, I believe NOAA-NET seeking to promote space and sell fiber services to other providers. (at least that is what I heard two years ago in the Pacific Northwest??) Felix San Francisco Area --- Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt its anything more than PR. Internet connectivity sold by the state of Illinois is ungodly expensive. This is not much (if any) different than Illinois's network www.illinois.net - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:54 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ohio State-wide broadband network http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/08/01/2214205from=rss In order to coordinate and expand access to the state's broadband data network, Ohio Governor Ted Strickland has signed an executive order establishing the Ohio Broadband Council and the Broadband Ohio Network. The order directs the Ohio Broadband Council to coordinate efforts to extend access to the Broadband Ohio Network to every county in Ohio. The order allows public and private entities to tap into the Broadband Ohio Network - all with a goal of expanding access to high-speed internet service in parts of the state that presently don't have such service. --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technology Services - WISP Consulting - Tower Services WEB: http://www.mtin.net WEB: http://www.metrospan.net WEB: http://www.findfastinternet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
Re: [WISPA] VOIP Providers with Virtual Office Type Setups - CALLMENOW
Here is a solution for you. Contact Rob Gonda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.comvoz.com/ Dave Hannum New Era Broadband JohnnyO wrote: Need a very quick solution to a very aggrivating problem. BellSouth and Us have been arguing for months over excess charges on our bill from when we had T1 services through them. Apparently this morning, they have decided to shut off our phone lines into our office. *There way of making us pay for stuff we do not owe them for * I am needing an almost overnite VoIP / Virtual Office type setup from someone who has reasonable pricing and a damn good service. If you are going to call and expect us to pay more then $100.00/mo for a 1-800 # type setup with 3 extensions. Don't bother... If anyone has any solutions they would like us to take a look at , we will be making a decision today by noon. Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Would you like to see your advertisement here? Let the WISPA Board know your feelings about allowing advertisements on the free WISPA lists. The current Board is taking this under consideration at this time. We want to know your thoughts. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Low cost generator
I'm in the market for a generator and came across this one. [ snipped link ] That's either the very same generator I have, or very close to it. (Actually, it's just very close. Ours can run on either propane or natural gas, and it's presently wired up for the latter.) Sadly, in the five months since we moved to our new office, with that fancy new generator, we haven't had a single power outage. Not so much as a flicker. It pops on once a week for its exercise cycle, and I've done the flip the big switch and make sure the generator fires up test a couple times, so I assume it works.) As with any big purchase, shop around. Ours was $500 cheaper than the price on that Web site; we just had Lowe's special-order it for us. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] archives and traffic
I haven't received any email from this list since 6/25/2007 7:08 PM. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. :) (Something officially weird is going on, not sure what, working on it.) dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Net to Industry - So Many Questions
Hello, My group is new to the industry. We are in the planning stages of a point to multipoint network in rural Ohio. I've been scouring the web for statistics on wireless networks in terms of penetration, growth rates and projections, etc. The info is very limited, to say the least. Is there any place we can look to find more of this info, so that we can approach potential investors. Also, what should we be paying for backhaul? I've seen reports that say it should cost us $10/Mb. Is that synchronous? Our backhaul provider is planning on charging us roughly 60x this - synchronous. How can we know if we are getting a good rate? This is a hilly area - foothills of Appalachia. How can we know what is the best equipment or system to go with. We have so many questions, yet it seems so few places to get answers. It appears that this is a profitable industry - one we want to get into. However, we are just not sure at this point. If any of you are operating systems in rural, hilly areas, we'd love to talk with you. Sorry for the all over the board post, but we're under the gun to get going and we just have so many questions. Kind Regards, Dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Net to Industry - So Many Questions
Rick, Thanks for your reply. We have investment money - plus we have an agreement to work with one of the largest rural water districts in the nation to use their tanks. This helps a LOT! They have power at most of them already. Plus, we have access agreements on the other towers we need. I'm a techie so I'm cool with the acronyms - well, I think I am. But anyway, I'm checking out your tower link because we are looking at building one tower. Thanks again, Dave On 5/23/07, Rick Kunze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea . . . welcome to the world of wireless broadband! You are correct, it's a very confusing landscape. If you only recently started lurking here and/or on other similar lists, that's the best thing you can do. Until I absorbed the material from the lists for a year or so I was baffled. That was about 8 years ago now. Hard to believe! The short answer is that there is no short answer. Every scenario is different and there are no simple answers to sweeping questions. It's a VERY complex fabric and it will take time before you even get familiar with all the acronyms let alone the technology. At 04:38 AM 5/23/2007, you wrote: find more of this info, so that we can approach potential investors. Unless you have a large pile of cash at your disposal, I'd suggest you start a tiny pilot project at the very least. That way you can gain some familiarity with it all before you sign the dotted line. My 2 cents. For tower info, I can help a little: www.do-it-yourself-tower.com. Rk Also, what should we be paying for backhaul? I've seen reports that say it should cost us $10/Mb. Is that synchronous? Our backhaul provider is planning on charging us roughly 60x this - synchronous. How can we know if we are getting a good rate? This is a hilly area - foothills of Appalachia. How can we know what is the best equipment or system to go with. We have so many questions, yet it seems so few places to get answers. It appears that this is a profitable industry - one we want to get into. However, we are just not sure at this point. If any of you are operating systems in rural, hilly areas, we'd love to talk with you. Sorry for the all over the board post, but we're under the gun to get going and we just have so many questions. Kind Regards, Dave -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Malware monitor Device
Is there any device on the market that would monitor that would sit between my network and my internet feed and do this: 1-monitor customer traffic 2-identify problematic traffic(malware,storms, ect) 3- Redirect those customers to a Cleanup portal I'm not sure whether it covers broadcast storms, but Barracuda Networks does offer a spyware firewall. As I understand it, it's basically a transparent Web proxy, that bounces probably-infected PCs to itself, where there's a Web-based cleanup tool. Gets you most of the benefits of all your customers' PCs having Spybot or Ad-Aware installed (and up-to-date). I've not used it, but I do own a couple of Barracuda's mail filtering boxes, and they generally work pretty well. If you're interested in one, talk to Mac Dearman. His company is a Barracuda reseller, and Mac's just a generally swell guy regardless. :) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Switch that will surrive outdoors
I am in need of a switch that can live outdoors in an enclosure. It needs to be small (5 ports) and cheap as the customer dose not want to any more that he has to. It also needs to surrive the hot and cold temps that it will experiance. Any reccomendations? Most of our towers are running on Netgear FS105 and FS108 switches (the ones in the blue metal boxes, not the cheap plastic ones), and the occasional Linksys el-cheapo switch (don't have the part number handy). We only have about one switch per year die, and that's usually from lightning or power surges, as opposed to weather per se. They're not special fancy magic weatherproof switches, but they work just fine for us. This is in the midwest US, so the temperature extremes are 0 and 110 Fahrenheit. Your weather may vary. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] NPRM: Make Form 477 Suck Less
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-17A1.pdf (linked for PDF Goodness) The FCC seems to have finally realized that Form 477 is pretty much a joke, and they apparently want to rewrite it or do other stuff to it. This also ties in with a Notice of Inquiry: http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-21A1.pdf The above says, as near as I can tell, 477 is a Kleenex tissue of lies. Hey, at least they admit it. Commissioner Michael Copps: Our statistical methodology seems almost calculated to obscure just how far our country is falling behind many other industrialized nations in broadband availability, adoption, speed and price... (from a press conference that goes with the above, and a few other related documents and postings, all of which can be found on fcc.gov) Discuss amongst yourselves. :) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Wireless Digest, Vol 26, Issue 11
Jim, I echo feelings that sectors and an in depth look at the spectrum already in use in the areas you wish to serve. You must become familiar with your landscape. Sometimes hills that block signals can be a good thing because they also block a lot of interferences. 900MHz tends to travel 50 or more miles unobstructed. I use those hills to cover small 60-90 degree wedges that would have otherwise been reachable because of the same hills Water tanks have been helpful to fill in areas but my greatest success has come from towers twice the distance or more above treetops. My coverage area is very hilly with a lot of trees. I have been happy using WaveRider gear and the filters designed for their systems. It's more expensive using towers because of coaxial cable costs, but I also don't have to climb a tower to fix a radio problem. As I've deployed on water tanks in the area our costs are less than Motorola Canopy systems and we have more channel choices - 7 verses 3 or 4 for Canopy I think. Canopy systems use an 8MHz wide channel, whereas WaveRider uses a 5.5 MHz channel and others as low as 5MHz. Of course the top and bottom channels 905 and 925 can become unusable in many environments because of paging and cell systems. I've been able to structure my sectors that we can use them anyway. We use a mix of horizontal and vertical polarization base station antennas. We use Antel antennas - watch the numbers they measure power in dbd verses dbi. As a rule of thumb you add 2.1 to dbd to estimate dbi. I have recently tried Tiltek and PacWireless antennas but will go back to Antel for our future deployments. Again more expensive than others but my experience says they are worth it. Adjacent transmission sites get opposite polarity antennas and as much separation between channels as I can get if they point at each other or can be seen by each other. On some transmission sites I use 3 - 120 deg sectors, others maybe a 180 deg and a 90 or two 90's, I have one site with one 120 because that's all I needed to cover and when you use multiples transmitters on a site you need separation between channels. I'm not all that familiar with Motorola gear but others on the list are. They have a GPS sync function that allows them to reuse more channels throughout their network. I don't want to start a feature / religious war about brands but these are my 5 plus years 900MHz experiences. I've found no two sites are anywhere near the same as I've designed and built my system from the center out. We now operate more than 20 transmission sites around a county in southern Indiana. I have 12-15 more to go before we cover 95% plus of the people and we'll probably get there this year. I will say that WaveRiders throughput is more limited 2 MB verses 6MB for Canopy. In my area that hasn't been an issue yet. I have heard of an 8MB POE transmitter due out this summer. Maybe Scott Carlson, who is a vendor member, would like to comment. grin. I've have tested Canopy, Trango, Tranzeo, and Ubiquiti cards and without filters none will work very well. Without filters noise floors can be 80db or less. With filters and the right design you can get better than 90db in most cases. I've tried entire band filters 902-928 and found them to be mostly ineffective in eliminating the noise from pagers and cells sites. The biggest problem I see in looking at Tranzeo, and Ubiquiti, other than the later isn't certified, is the lack of filter availability. WaveRider's filters are centered around the channels they support and that's made all the difference for us. Some of our sites were designed to transmit 3 miles because that was our target, others are designed to go 8 miles because that was our target. Your maximum power output is 4 watts or 36 EIRP but you don't always have to put out that much power, sometimes less is better. My disclaimer. I don't own or have interest in any of the companies I've discussed other than my own. Just my thoughts. Good Luck, Dave Hulsebus Portative Technologies Corydon, IN www.portative.com Message: 6 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 10:14:14 -0500 From: Jim Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] 900 MHz Help To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Folks, I'm just entering into the 900MHz space and would appreciate any advice on channel selection and channel width settings. TIA, Jim Jim Stout LTO Communications, LLC 15701 Henry Andrews Dr Pleasant Hill, MO 64080 (816) 305-1076 - Mobile (816) 497-0033 - Pager -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] calea meeting with the fbi
Folks, I do not want to rant or in anyway fan flames here, but I Do want to ask the question: What are the Big Kids doing about CALEA and the talk seeping out, about data monitoring / logging from DOJ? Earthlink, AOL (and it's clones), MSN, ATT? Are those guys on the sidelines just waiting for the shoe to drop, or busily building the mega-cache systems needed to transcribe every last packet passed over their networks? Somehow is seems unlikely. I don't see how, just because we are small and independent, we have anymore to fear about the implications of these seemingly invasive measures. If anything it would seem we have much less to fear, since the shear volume of data from traffic logging would render it almost useless. Frankly I don't (with my admittedly limited understanding of the true nature of IP traffic) understand what is to prevent these traffic loggers or other data traps to be inserted anywhere on the much-fewer backbone transports and be done with it. (In truth I highly doubt that this has not in fact already been done). At any rate EFF.org and others are our best allies in trying to tame this dragon before it bites. I too, have profound concerns about the right-to-privacy (as if any of us has had that for years). But the more important issue is the FACT that the COSTS of any and all monitoring MUST, in view of the 13th Amendment, be borne by the AGENCY that wants the information, NOT US. For those who have forgotten, the 13th Amendment abolished involuntary servitude. In short we CANNOT be compelled to work for Uncle Sam for FREE. We MAY by Court Order be compelled to provide access to execute a search for a specific duration. But we do not have to DO the search for them, provide them with the forensic tools to investigate, or in anyway become unduly financially inconvenienced, in the execution of the lawful activity. But Dave, (I hear you saying) they make the phone companies provide information, Local Usage Details and the like under subpoena from the court. Why can't the do that to us? Well in part they can, but remember that Telecos are those freaks of the business world: The Regulated Utility. When these Companies agreed to operate as Regulated Monopoly Utilities the gave up many rights and assumed special responsibilities that Normal Business don't have. The requirements to log usage details was long ago shown to be a normal part of the Telco Business flow, for their in-house billing and cross-billing purposes. The Courts asking to view selected sections of those logs for fact finding was viewed as duty the comes with the privilege to do business without competition. I'm no attorney, nor have I played one on Television, but I think I have a fairly firm grip on reality. (Why is there Air?) grin I think we should be looking hard at what our older-bigger cousins in the ISP industry are doing and be prepared to join in with them for injunctive relief - IF we are asked to SPEND anything preemptively to serve the cause of law enforcement. We are NOT Monopoly Tel-Co s. Law Enforcement Agencies are in-fact the ones with the guns and badges, not us. I didn't run for Sheriff, I was not elected to the office, I have taken no oath of office. I am therefore NOT a law enforcement officer, entitled to monetary compensation. I WILL IN NO WAY IMPED the work of Law Enforcement but I cannot LEGALLY be compelled to do it FOR them at my own expense. Please Notice I am NOT discussing the value or virtue of the law enforcement activities - That's politics, and has nothing to do with the LAW or it's execution. So what the heck is my point? I Honestly believe, IF some Policy is promulgated that costs US money or time (which IS WORTH money) to do THEIR work, it WILL be held unlawful on several grounds. I THINK that supporting EFF or others that share our concerns and raising these points to them may put this dragon in a cage. I feel certain that the BIG KIDs are thinking this way. I think we should too. That, and thirty nickels will buy you a cup of coffee. Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Some opinions
Carlos, 3 Questions: 1) How far apart are office 1 and office 2? 2) Can you see from one to the other? 3) Do you NEED to provide bandwidth to P1 P2 and P3? Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Carlos A. Garcia G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 13:40 Subject: [WISPA] Some opinions Hi i have 2 offices that i have to connect to do this i nedd to use the 3 points between them Office1-- P1--P2--P3--Office2 do any of you know what equipments can connect without using too many products for example to do that with cisco 1300 wireless bridges i need to use 8 radios and i want to use 5 Office-- -P1--P2--P3- --Office2 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tv whitespaces filings
Portative filed. : **2007225097486** David Hulsebus Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Good grief guys, there are only 12 new filings in the last week or so!! Why, in the name of God, would the FCC give a rats behind about our industry if we can't be bothered to talk to them? Listen, the new rules get made according to the WRITTEN record! Our trips to the FCC are great and we both learn a lot, but when it comes time to make regulations they go to the paperwork that's been filed! EVERYONE here needs to file personally. Here's my confirmation :'2007223682035 Just go to this link: http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/ecfs/upload_v2.cgi Put 04-186 in the top left box and follow the instructions to voice your opinions on what the FCC should do with the soon to be opened up tv bands! All you have to do is till them to make the bands unlicensed, no auctions, no registration etc. Say more if you want, but we really need to drive home the unlicensed idea. Get off your hind ends guys! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] failing Canopy 900
Jack and Brian, I noticed this thread just a few minutes ago. I didn't see mention of what polarity the OMNI in question is. Most, if not all, 900 paging is VERTically Polarized. That is why the integrated antenna Canopy products all use HORIZontal polarization out of the box. So one would naturally want your omni to be HORIZontally polarized. This little trick all by itself should get 25 db or so rejection of the unwanted 929-930 stuff. I also agree with Marlon that sectorizing could help (depending on the direction of the offending signal) Basically selecting an AP operating frequency as far away from 929-930 as possible (preferably 906 Mhz) and facing THAT sector toward the offending signal, should help since the AP's receiver selectivity will maximally attenuate the out of band signal. The Subscriber Modules in that sector would all have their backs to the offending noise, so the front-to-back ratio of the antenna is buying them 20+ db rejection. Of course if the Subscriber Modules in another sector (and another channel) are facing the noise, the problem may pop-up there. It's all about angles and SM antenna pattern at that point. Maybe this will help. Hope so. Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 21:30 Subject: Re: [WISPA] failing Canopy 900 Remember that the tighter the filter the more loss you'll have going through it too marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] failing Canopy 900 Brian, Bandpass filters come in different band widths. Some are full-band filters that pass 902-928 MHz and some are single-channel filters that are narrower and pass only one channel. The bandwidth of the two Ubiquity filters are a little narrow to use across the entire band but if you are using 912 or 917 as center frequencies, they should work well. If you're using a lower center frequency, you'll need a filter that has a bit wider bandwidth but which still attenuates the paging frequencies a lot. The availability of good whole-band bandpass filters seems to have deteriorated a bit in the last year. There are more filters available but they seem to have poorer characteristics and sometimes higher prices. I just looked at RFLinx and Hyperlinktech and I am not happy with their current offerings. I did discover a notch filter that is tuned to attenuate the paging frequencies while passing the 902-928 frequencies. I don't know the pricing but if it's priced reasonably then it looks like your best bet. Here's the link: http://www.microwavefilter.com/2ghzRelocation.htm#ism It's the filter at the bottom of the page. If you call them to get a spec sheet and to check pricing, please share that info. Thanks, jack Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Thanks, Jack. Would installing this one http://www.ubnt.com/cf.php4 be the correct move? Or is something else preferred. Brian Jack Unger wrote: Brian, A -36 dBm signal probably won't destroy your receiver or permanently desensitize it however your best bet is to get confirmation from a Motorola rep. The signals you see at 928-930 MHz are from one or more paging transmitters. These paging signals could easily desensitize your AP receivers temporarily and cause a temporary inability to hear incoming SM signals. Since you appear to be using antennas that are external to your APs, you can insert a bandpass filter between each AP and its antenna. This will attenuate the paging signals and allow the APs to receive SM's from further away. If the paging transmitters ARE the cause of your apparent AP receiver sensitivity deterioration, then the bandpass filters should be helpful in reducing the frequency of occurance of the problem. jack Brian Rohrbacher wrote: How would that help? One sector is still pointing at the interference...Wouldn't that sector still make the radio fail, if the -36 signal is what is doing it? My question from the original post. Will that strong signal desensitize the radio into failure? If not, then I need to figure out what kills my radios. Why do they work fine for a month and then die? I replace just the radio and they are fine for a while. Brian Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: If you are that close to a source of interference you need to ditch the omnis and sectorize our tower. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq
Re: [WISPA] Industry, FCC and WISPA observations
Rick, I too offer my heartfelt applause to your recommendations. As I've tried to point out, any WISP's problems with regulators are all about PERCEPTIONS. If we are to be taken seriously we must be perceived to be trying our level-best to be good custodians of the spectrum we've been permitted to exploit. Every step, no matter its size, or shape, when taken as a group dedicated to professionalism, will help improve the regulators sense of our mission, and improve our chances of being taken seriously as an industry. Thanks for your efforts, Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 11:02 Subject: [WISPA] Industry, FCC and WISPA observations I have observed a discussion on the members only list, talked to people with insight and given it a lot of thought. 1.) I do think that WISPA needs to make a stand to promote membership compliance to Part 15 rules. We should modify our mission statement and our goals to reflect this. 2.) WISPA should assist and encourage non-certified vendors such as StarOS, Mikrotik and others to certify hardware/software/antenna systems that will allow operators using these platforms to reach certification compliance with minimal capital outlay. 3.) 100% Compliancy should be a goal with a Target Date of completion. I personally believe that this Target Date should be no more than 18 months out. We need to show the FCC that our industry recognizes the rules and our members are striving to bring their networks into compliance on a timeline that is affordable and logistically achievable so that our clients have minimal disruption. This will send a message to vendors that certification is not an option anymore. If they want to market their products to our industry, they need to invest in certification. That may raise the price of equipment, but it is a necessary increase that our industry must bear if we are to survive. 4.) We also need to recognize that the FCC has essentially given our industry a gift with unlicensed spectrum (although not their original intent with the spectrum). This gift can be taken away with a swoop of a pen. 5.) WISP operators that publicly defy the FCC laws and mandates to fill out necessary forms such as Form 477 and 445 are in direct opposition to the goals and ideals of WISPA. IMHO, if a WISP operator promotes anti-lawful cooperation with FCC rules and guidelines on WISPA listservs, that operator should be banned from the WISPA listservs. WISPA does need to improve credibility with the FCC and we cannot do this by allowing tyrannical posts that blatantly oppose following the law. That does not mean that we have to silence discussion or opposition to current rules, it just means we need to clarify that current WISPA policy does not agree with their personal views. If their intent is to change WISPA policy, they need to submit a policy change submission to the WISPA board for consideration and possible polling of the membership. 6.) An observation that our competition (ILECs and Cable Companies) are aggressively lobbying the FCC to shut down unlicensed bands as unfair competition and an industry that in their view, openly breaks the law, is inevitable. 7.) Recognition of the damage that will be done to the rural market economy with the removal of the WISP industry is inconceivable. It is our responsibility to protect the markets we serve by reaching out for compliance as soon as we can. 8.) Our industry has developed dramatically in the last 10 years, equipment choices have improved, techniques have improved, network design has improved. Yet we still have manufacturers who refuse to certify their products. Their excuse seems to be that their customers will not pay enough to warrant certification. This seems to be a lame excuse in my eyes. I recognize the quick lifespan of wireless components these days makes the certification process very frustrating, to spend money and time getting certified only to have new technology change the market a short time later must be a manufacturer's nightmare. The fact is though, that new investment is entering this industry and more options will be manufactured that will be certified. Current non-certified vendors will face expulsion from the industry unless they step up to the plate quickly. 9.) WISPA is run by a volunteer board of operators at this time. To become a truly effective trade association, we must look to hire a full time staff which will form procedures, policy, update website content, email members, collect dues, manage books, lobby more effectively and work through legal matters with FCC versed attorneys. While in its infancy
[WISPA] - What about insurance?
Hello Gang, and Happy Monday. I'm wondering what kind of insurance y'all use for your businesses? Particularly insuring towers and access points against weather damage, lighting, wind, etc. or do you self-insure. What about liability? Installer Accident? Any advise will be appreciated. Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] - Can anyone tell me how many are we?
Gang, I've heard various numbers, but I'd like to put a finer point on it. How many WISPA members are there? How many independent WISPs are there? Thanks, Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] So Let's DO something.
, blah blah blah. I'm suggesting that such a Registry would serve US every bit as much as the Regulator / Enforcement Community. The point is that we will have a repository of information about who's doing what where. (very helpful in knowing who IS NOT doing bad stuff as well, or where no one's doing anything). II. A Type Approved Equipment Database We should also insist on a Published Database of TYPE APPROVED equipment (by Vendor) so as to have NO Question IF the gear performs as required. The FCC MUST have this information, and It MUST be public knowledge. We should have it available to US even if we have to take charge of formally creating the database from their raw data. Let us be clear here, FCC Regulations PROHIBIT ABSOLUTELY the use of non-TYPE APPROVED transmitters - FULL STOP. Always Has. Equipment used in violation has always been subject to seizure. WISPA Membership should be contingent on using TYPE APPROVED Equipment. We are not, after all Junk Dealers are we? Both of these Database Tasks are well within the abilities of our members to create and moderate. There are those who will throw dirt in the air and claim public disclosure of this information will be anti-competitive. I say nothing could be further from the truth. We are not in this business the Kill each other, IF we've chosen to operate in an environment where there are multiple players, would it not be better to know, at the cost of a few key strokes, what frequencies are available, who's using them and in what way? Would it not make it absolutely clear, that the signal that's coming from a location NOT in the database is a rouge player that needs to be ejected from the playing field? Would it not help us provide accurate information to our members, and the FCC, about how we use the spectrum we have, that we KNOW how to use it wisely, and that we CAN play nicely together like professionals? Frankly I see this as essential. I Think that reason the White Space Debate has gone on so long is exactly because we have not stepped forward with a WORKING plan of our own to demonstrate to them that WE Do take this business seriously, and that Do Want to Behave as Professionals. I'm sure there's more that could be said, but I think you all get the picture. Tell me where I'm wrong. If Not let's get on with it. I'll Help all I can. Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] - Hello Group! - Can we talk towers?
Hello WISPA! It's great to be aboard. I have several questions about towers, but I'm going to try to hold it to TWO, starting out. 1) Does anyone on the list have experience with the FCC/FAA maze? Our Network Operations Center will be at the base of an as-yet-to-be-constructed 300 foot Commercial Grade Communications Tower. In attempting to get the FCC/FAA Permit(s) to place this tower I've run into a Catch-22, or so it would seem. The FAA Forms want an FCC Registration Number, and of course the FCC Forms want an FAA Registration Number. So. Who's on first? I've searched and searched and cannot find a step-by-step or flowchart explaining the procedure to get the permit process started, let alone completed. Anyone with some experience with this matter will be a hero forever with me. BTW to avoid the questions I explain right now that - - NO we don't NEED a 300 Footer for our wireless coverage, but... I live in the middle of Cell-Hell and I'm willing to speculate the one or more of the Cell Providers in this area will Co-Locate once an actual structure is in place. Also the extra altitude will make if practical to Back-Haul bandwidth for many-many miles thus reducing our wire-line costs to a minimum. 2) Who's brands of towers are ya'll using? I need some guidance for smaller towers 100-150 ft range, self supporting and guyed. I have heard of some brands, but I also have concerns about Wind Tolerance, since we are in an area that does produce tornados from time to time. I'd prefer to spend the money on a product that will hold up and I'm not uncomfortable Climbing, IF I Must. That's plenty for a first go. Thanks loads, Dave Brenton General Manager Rural Tennessee Wireless Broadband Bringing FAST Internet to the rest of us (sm) Dover TN (931) 232-0914 office (931) 627-1142 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers
Got price down to $0.49 in bulk from: http://www.telephoneparts.com/product/EZRJ45?OVRAW=ez-rj45OVKEY=ez%2520rj45 OVMTC=standard#ez-rj45%20crimping%20tool Dave Keep looking -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 12:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers What is your time worth? -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: That's it. Thanks! Do you really pay $.60 per connector??? Maybe it's not as nice of a tool as I thought laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Aubrey Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ot rj45 crimpers http://www.happcontrols.com/electrical_supplies/92060900.htm --- Aubrey Wells One Ring Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] o: (404) 601.1407 f: (404) 601.1408 c: (770) 356.9767 Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for a crimper I saw someone talk about. It uses special rj45 connectors that allow the cable to go through the end. Then the crimper crimps and cuts to length at the same time. Anyone know what it's called and where to get the connectors and the crimper? thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
