Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-20 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 09:04:35AM -0400, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-20 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages GFCI works by comparing the current on the hot side and the neutral side. If they are different by more than a very small

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-19 Thread Robert Kim App and Facebook Marketing
You'll need a solar powered battery pack if totally remote but instead of a cell phone... you just need a 4g modem. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? ** ** i.e.

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-19 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
circuits. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Troy Settle To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Next stupid outage at a different

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-18 Thread Scott Reed
Of *Blair Davis *Sent:* Saturday, March 17, 2012 1:37 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages GFCI's are to detect and prevent leakage currents. They monitor the current in the hot and the neutral lines. Ever stood barefoot on the ground and held a drill or saw

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-17 Thread Blair Davis
GFCI's are to detect and prevent leakage currents. They monitor the current in the hot and the neutral lines. Ever stood barefoot on the ground and held a drill or saw and gotten shocked? A GFCI, working properly, will prevent that from killing you, or even

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-17 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
in a thunderstorm. . . . j o n a t h a n _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 1:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages GFCI's are to detect and prevent leakage

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-17 Thread Blair Davis
, March 17, 2012 1:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages GFCI's

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-17 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Often, in homes with plastic pipes, the water in the tub is NOT grounded! On 3/17/2012 9:41 PM, Jonathan Schmidt wrote: GFCIs…you can’t live with them and can’t live without them. A real problem is that they wear out…something that isn’t well known. Old

[WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Troy Settle
Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse). Is there anything to prevent stupid outages like this from happening without violating

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Matt Hoppes
You have to have GFCI outlets indoors? I've never heard of that regulation before. A few thoughts come to mind: * Battery backup with 2 or so hours of run time along with a remote page for a power outage. Doesn't prevent you from having to dispatch but it keeps you from having an outage. *

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Ryan Ghering
We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.comwrote: You have to have GFCI outlets

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Victoria Proffer
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers, but I have here at home auto resetting GFCI outlets for my Saltwater reef tank. Got them from Home Depot.. They reset automatically after a few mins.. Ryan

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Jay DeBoer
STLWiMAX, LLC http://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages We don't use them at towers

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Brian Webster
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria Proffer

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Victoria Proffer
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer Victoria

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Chuck Hogg
://www.stlwimax.com/ 314-974-5600 ** ** *From:* Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 9:02 AM *To:* victo...@stlbroadband.com; 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* RE: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages ** ** The remote reboot power strip does nothing

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Josh Luthman
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Proffer Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone? i.e. strip cell phone pstn my computer

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Victoria Proffer
: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages I don't think you understand. A GFCI outlet is a mechanical device. You can't reboot it. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Victoria Proffer victo...@stlbroadband.com wrote: Can you set

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:04 AM Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put on some 80 miles just to push a button (yes, it could have been much worse

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages http://dataprobe.com/remote-reboot.html I've used some of their older 'iboots' havent' used their phone devices. On 3/16/2012 9:40, Victoria Proffer wrote: Is there a remote power strip that can be activated by a cell phone

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Justin Wilson
...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Yeah. Drop the GFCI. If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him he'll have to meet you

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Matt Hoppes
wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:00:39 -0700 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages Yeah. Drop the GFCI. If an inspector whines about it get his home phone and tell him

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Greg Ihnen
Just replace it. It's probably failing. They're a pain when they start failing but when you get a good one they're fine. Greg On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Troy Settle wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers. One of them tripped last night, causing me to

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Justin Wilson
an inspector to sign off. Justin -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:27:40 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages That's what breakers

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Bret Clark
On 03/16/2012 11:27 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: That's what breakers are for - shorts. GFCIs are for quick blows for things like dropping something in water. I still don't understand why it would be required in a tower building. I agree, there's fuse panel, why the heck is a GFCI needed too

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Ben West
To add to the anecdotal evidence against cheap GFCI outlets, I had to remove one in a building when spontaneous trips started occurring randomly (e.g. once every couple weeks) after an adjacent building received a direct lightening strike. For that matter, the GFCI contributed nothing to

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread DJ Anderson
I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits from moisture mainly, AFAIK they do not provide any type of protection for devices other than cutting the circuit if it senses a ground fault. DJ Anderson Shelby Broadband On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote: To add to

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Ben West
This is true. The GFCI outlet happened to already be in the building when I installed equipment. It turns out the GFCI outlet itself could have benefited from lightening isolation. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:45 AM, DJ Anderson d...@shelbybb.com wrote: I thought GFCI's were to protect circuits

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Troy Settle
as a convenience outlet to provide the extra protection when we're out there working. -Troy -Original Message- From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: Troy Settle Subject: Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Jeromie Reeves
We put in a enclosure and that let us say it was 'indoors' and drop the gfci requirement. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Troy Settle tset...@thewiredroad.net wrote: Ok, so to keep to code, we have a GFCI outlet for most of our towers.  One of them tripped last night, causing me to have to put

Re: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages

2012-03-16 Thread Troy Settle
it figured out before too many more storms come over the mountains. Thanks, -Troy From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Settle Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:05 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Preventing stupid outages