RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Not that this is a good practice...but Wmux radios are extremely sensative to interference on the Rx size (a wiff of anything takes it down) Figure out the Tx/Rx spread (may be 5.3 GHz on that particular site), and shut them down on the Rx side -- maybe then they'll talk =) -Charles P.S. -- if it's a short range shot, they can probably go licensed now for the same price as unlicensed, and they'd get out of your hair completely --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Marlon K. Schafer wrote: yeppers. something like that. Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the structure the antenna is on. It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset your plan. I think the concensus - western multiplex - makes sense. And probbly a cell carrier. I do totally understand legacy equipment and such, but dammit I could get a few hundred mbps out of that same chunk and have channel space left over... but again that's using moden equipment. I know I probbly have zero chance of sucess, but would anyone think (provided I can find the operator) that we could work something out - either like a polarity change as marlon suggested, or just buy them some more spectrally effecient gear...? I understand they may need to have an actual T1 electrical interface, but there are a few players that can actually do this job with much much less spectrum. I know of ceragon and their fiberair, as well as redline can do this. I've never heard of a deal like this but it would be helpful. Otherwise I'm going to have to change plans and that's gonna be a little expensive. Sort of wish I'd done an SA first but it's in the middle of nowhere and I just assumed based on past experience it wasn't going to be a problem... WRONG! Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Funny you mention that, But you are right. We are located on a tower with a 2.4 WM and a 5ghz WM. We put our stuff up, ran the SA and went holy S***. We were able to move around them. But I forgot about them when I moved some channels around, and sure enough about 3 months later I was taking to the area tech and I asked how everything was working... They never could figure out why their t-1 radios kept dropping until I asked what channels they were running. Canopy gave them some problems, but we never saw anything. So now I have those channels blocked out.. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Not that this is a good practice...but Wmux radios are extremely sensative to interference on the Rx size (a wiff of anything takes it down) Figure out the Tx/Rx spread (may be 5.3 GHz on that particular site), and shut them down on the Rx side -- maybe then they'll talk =) -Charles P.S. -- if it's a short range shot, they can probably go licensed now for the same price as unlicensed, and they'd get out of your hair completely --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Marlon K. Schafer wrote: yeppers. something like that. Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the structure the antenna is on. It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset your plan. I think the concensus - western multiplex - makes sense. And probbly a cell carrier. I do totally understand legacy equipment and such, but dammit I could get a few hundred mbps out of that same chunk and have channel space left over... but again that's using moden equipment. I know I probbly have zero chance of sucess, but would anyone think (provided I can find the operator) that we could work something out - either like a polarity change as marlon suggested, or just buy them some more spectrally effecient gear...? I understand they may need to have an actual T1 electrical interface, but there are a few players that can actually do this job with much much less spectrum. I know of ceragon and their fiberair, as well as redline can do this. I've never heard of a deal like this but it would be helpful. Otherwise I'm going to have to change plans and that's gonna be a little expensive. Sort of wish I'd done an SA first but it's in the middle of nowhere and I just assumed based on past experience it wasn't going to be a problem... WRONG! Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Charles, I'm suprised! In general I would advocate cooperation and it sounds like perhaps there would be some options here if this does turn out to be a cell carrier or such. We would certainly like to continue earning our reputation as good guys - even with competitors who otherwise would not do likewise - I simply didn't expect this situation here. On a commercial tower we'd be screwed I know. But I think this goes both ways - since I'm going canopy here and going to do 5.8, it's going to hurt them and unintentionally so unless we figure something out. I do have sectorization as an option, as well as 5.2 and 2.4 and 900 if I really want. And cross polarization probbly won't be enough due to the high rssi already. Mike- Charles Wu wrote: Not that this is a good practice...but Wmux radios are extremely sensative to interference on the Rx size (a wiff of anything takes it down) Figure out the Tx/Rx spread (may be 5.3 GHz on that particular site), and shut them down on the Rx side -- maybe then they'll talk =) -Charles P.S. -- if it's a short range shot, they can probably go licensed now for the same price as unlicensed, and they'd get out of your hair completely -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Also remember, its not only about doing the spectrum analsys upfront, but also an issue of choosing a broadcast site, where the management is savy enough to manage the spectrum use correctly at the site. Whether or not you interfere with colocated equipment should have been caught before any gear was ever even turned on, or a dollar spent in onsite time. Thats the advantage of paying for the use of spectrum from a site. Many people will install unlicensed gear, without contractually having the right to deploy it in the first place. Many Licensed carrier don;t understand its the appropirate practice to. So often, if you've paid for it, and they haven;t, you can make them take it down. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Funny you mention that, But you are right. We are located on a tower with a 2.4 WM and a 5ghz WM. We put our stuff up, ran the SA and went holy S***. We were able to move around them. But I forgot about them when I moved some channels around, and sure enough about 3 months later I was taking to the area tech and I asked how everything was working... They never could figure out why their t-1 radios kept dropping until I asked what channels they were running. Canopy gave them some problems, but we never saw anything. So now I have those channels blocked out.. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Not that this is a good practice...but Wmux radios are extremely sensative to interference on the Rx size (a wiff of anything takes it down) Figure out the Tx/Rx spread (may be 5.3 GHz on that particular site), and shut them down on the Rx side -- maybe then they'll talk =) -Charles P.S. -- if it's a short range shot, they can probably go licensed now for the same price as unlicensed, and they'd get out of your hair completely --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:28 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Marlon K. Schafer wrote: yeppers. something like that. Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the structure the antenna is on. It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset your plan. I think the concensus - western multiplex - makes sense. And probbly a cell carrier. I do totally understand legacy equipment and such, but dammit I could get a few hundred mbps out of that same chunk and have channel space left over... but again that's using moden equipment. I know I probbly have zero chance of sucess, but would anyone think (provided I can find the operator) that we could work something out - either like a polarity change as marlon suggested, or just buy them some more spectrally effecient gear...? I understand they may need to have an actual T1 electrical interface, but there are a few players that can actually do this job with much much less spectrum. I know of ceragon and their fiberair, as well as redline can do this. I've never heard of a deal like this but it would be helpful. Otherwise I'm going to have to change plans and that's gonna be a little expensive. Sort of wish I'd done an SA first but it's in the middle of nowhere and I just assumed based on past experience it wasn't going to be a problem... WRONG! Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Some unscrupulous operators also may use them Tsunamis to kill/squat on the spectrum to prevent new commers. This is a large part of the advantage of using sectorized, is you find out where the noise sources are and engineer around them. If you are in their direct path and close, it may mean changing cell site locations or frequency range. The good news is its probably a very directional antenna, and feasible that you could not interfere with them by moving your cell site location. There are several other brands other than Tsunmai that also allow use of all the channels. Its usually the outcome of older legacy gear that attempted 45mbps or higher links. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for tower backhaul Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8? Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8? Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for tower backhaul Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8? Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Proxim (formerly Western Multiplex) Tsunami point-to-point radios. They eat up the entire 100MHz. They are ancient, inefficient and use a crude modulation, but that meant they worked, and worked well. Thousands of them were sold and they are still being sold new. Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8? Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Asking the link owner to consider changing their antenna polarization is a good idea although their antenna and labor costs to do that could be kinda high depending on who they do (or don't) have on staff to do their tower and antenna work and what antennas they are currently using. With a signal that loud, even cross-polarizing to drop it down by 15 or 20 dBm would only lower it to -71 dBm or -76 dBm at best. It still could be loud enough to significantly reduce the receiving radius of Mike's possible new access point. Often, when first installed, these links are set to run at full power when they may not actually need to run that hot. Sometimes the link owner will be willing to turn the power down a bit if asked. This would help Mike to increase his access point receiving distance. Depending on the direction that the signal is coming from, Mike can sectorize, effectively turning his back on the noise. Then if he chooses an antenna with the opposite polarization, he may be able to get his small-area deployment to work OK. jack NOTE to Mike: That will be 50 cents, please. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: yeppers. something like that. Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the structure the antenna is on. It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset your plan. marlon - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for tower backhaul Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8? Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
Mike, One thing that is different with the Western Multiplex vs. Redline or others is the WM is a constant carrier, full-duplex radio. Changing them to a Redline or something else would actually be a downgrade for them... the true full-duplex operation as well as constant carrier radio makes this type of radio perfect for backhauling cellular and other telco type services. We have several of the 2.4ghz WM full-duplex radios co-located on the same towers we are... you can sure tell with a SA exactly what channels they are using... ;) Travis Microserv Mike Ireton wrote: Marlon K. Schafer wrote: yeppers. something like that. Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the structure the antenna is on. It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset your plan. I think the concensus - western multiplex - makes sense. And probbly a cell carrier. I do totally understand legacy equipment and such, but dammit I could get a few hundred mbps out of that same chunk and have channel space left over... but again that's using moden equipment. I know I probbly have zero chance of sucess, but would anyone think (provided I can find the operator) that we could work something out - either like a polarity change as marlon suggested, or just buy them some more spectrally effecient gear...? I understand they may need to have an actual T1 electrical interface, but there are a few players that can actually do this job with much much less spectrum. I know of ceragon and their fiberair, as well as redline can do this. I've never heard of a deal like this but it would be helpful. Otherwise I'm going to have to change plans and that's gonna be a little expensive. Sort of wish I'd done an SA first but it's in the middle of nowhere and I just assumed based on past experience it wasn't going to be a problem... WRONG! Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?
One of the other things to do if they are using wmux is to make sure that they aren't running over powered. Or that they can't turn the power down. I had a company run 6' dishes on a link of 13 miles. Knocked me offline almost 40 miles away! They had a 60, yes six zero, dB fade margin. They were very nice about it and turned the power way down and we both worked just fine after that. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Asking the link owner to consider changing their antenna polarization is a good idea although their antenna and labor costs to do that could be kinda high depending on who they do (or don't) have on staff to do their tower and antenna work and what antennas they are currently using. With a signal that loud, even cross-polarizing to drop it down by 15 or 20 dBm would only lower it to -71 dBm or -76 dBm at best. It still could be loud enough to significantly reduce the receiving radius of Mike's possible new access point. Often, when first installed, these links are set to run at full power when they may not actually need to run that hot. Sometimes the link owner will be willing to turn the power down a bit if asked. This would help Mike to increase his access point receiving distance. Depending on the direction that the signal is coming from, Mike can sectorize, effectively turning his back on the noise. Then if he chooses an antenna with the opposite polarization, he may be able to get his small-area deployment to work OK. jack NOTE to Mike: That will be 50 cents, please. Marlon K. Schafer wrote: yeppers. something like that. Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the structure the antenna is on. It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset your plan. marlon - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for tower backhaul Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Ireton Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!? While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8? Mike- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
