Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz

2009-04-09 Thread John McDowell
: Thursday, April 09, 2009 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz How is this different than what we already had in 4.9 GHz? Thank you, John Scrivner PS. I would watch the presentation if you can forward me a link. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz

2009-04-09 Thread Kevin Suitor
] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Releases New Rules on 4.9 GHz Kevin, does this mean we could see increased power in some of our 4.9-5.2 Redline backhauls in the future? On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Kevin Suitor ksui

Re: [WISPA] fcc logo

2009-03-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
It means that the device has been tested and will not interfere with other electronics with spurious emissions and such. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread Josh Luthman
If they pay me enough I'll do it despite objections from the wireless industry and some consumer groups. Nothing like a big middle finger to the WISPs of the USA. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread reader
Who gets what in return? insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread John Scrivner
If Google would start a partnership program where service providers could offer a free Internet service in exchange for a revenue split with Google for ads inserted into web content streams then we would have a viable option for delivering free Internet. Google has the technology to make this

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread Jack Unger
FCC chairman Kevin Martin gets a lot of free publicity for a goal that can't be met by an legitimate wireless business. As far as I'm concerned, it's nothing more than blatant political posturing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who gets what in return? insert

Re: [WISPA] FCC to put Free Wireless web access on table?

2008-12-01 Thread jp
100% political pandering. Let's continue work on getting Internet of any sort to all of America, first. That's not gonna happen for free. On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 12:20:44PM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: If they pay me enough I'll do it despite objections from the wireless industry and some

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower with 18ghz links, and just found a new tower that went up about 20 miles away with 18ghz and yet I never received notification. Is there a certain distance that they don't notify? Did you

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread Travis Johnson
I have always received notifications via USPS in the past (even just a week ago for another company doing some 18ghz stuff in my area). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: What is the "required" notification distance on 18ghz licensing? I have a tower

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread lakeland
Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:18:47 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
: [WISPA] FCC licensing I have always received notifications via USPS in the past (even just a week ago for another company doing some 18ghz stuff in my area). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: What is the required notification distance on 18ghz licensing

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread sales
Is there allot of this going on? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:23:45 PM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing Did you confirm whether

Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing

2008-10-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
, 2008 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC licensing Is there allot of this going on? John Buwa Michiana Wireless - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 6:23:45 PM GMT -05:00 Columbia Subject

Re: [WISPA] [FCC Committee] Raining on the whitespaces parade

2008-10-24 Thread Jack Unger
Marlon, Good luck with your individual White Space filing. I urge everyone who believes they have a better, a more constructive or a more practical idea than WISPA's filing to go to the FCC website and make an individual filing with the FCC immediately. Here's the link to file

Re: [WISPA] [FCC Committee] ****Plea for TV Whitespaces Comments!****

2008-10-23 Thread Brian Webster
As one of the active FCC committee members doing this work, I would like to point out some important things that have taken place in the last few weeks. The WISPA Licensed-Lite proposal has gained support in full or a large part by the following organizations and brought them to the table to talk

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder

2008-08-23 Thread Jason Hodge
Please define broadband. I am waiting for this very eagerly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List'; 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] FCC Form 477

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder

2008-08-23 Thread George Rogato
http://www.fcc.gov/broadband/broadband_data_faq.html Hope this helps George Jason Hodge wrote: Please define broadband. I am waiting for this very eagerly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, August 22,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder

2008-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Used to be 200 kbps and above. But now everybody has to file. - Original Message - From: Jason Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 1:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder Please define

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder

2008-08-23 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Used to be 200 kbps and above. But now everybody has to file. More specifically, according to the FCC: SNIP A broadband connection is a line (or wireless channel) that terminates at an end-user location and enables the end user to receive

Re: [WISPA] FCC Form 477 Reminder

2008-08-22 Thread John McDowell
Submitted mine yesterday! On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a reminder that Form 477 filing is due on Sept 2, 2008. The instructions can be found at http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form477/477instr.pdf and the form can be downloaded at

Re: [WISPA] FCC geographic search

2008-08-13 Thread Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC geographic search Chuck, What exactly are you having problems with? Any FCC ULS searches have been a crap shoot for me. Much of the time I find that for any queries to work well, you need to be as simple as possible. It seems

Re: [WISPA] FCC ULC

2008-08-12 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE
* Jerry Richardson wrote, On 8/12/2008 11:55 AM: How accurate is the FCC ULC? I am searching by call sign for grandfathered earth stations and all four of the call signs come back not found. It's not in there except a reference to the grandfathered PDF. The International Bureau is where

Re: [WISPA] FCC ULC

2008-08-12 Thread Jerry Richardson
: Re: [WISPA] FCC ULC * Jerry Richardson wrote, On 8/12/2008 11:55 AM: How accurate is the FCC ULC? I am searching by call sign for grandfathered earth stations and all four of the call signs come back not found. It's not in there except a reference to the grandfathered PDF

Re: [WISPA] FCC ULC

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Wyble
Jerry Richardson wrote: Thank you Link for the international bureau search page: http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/General_Menu_Reports/ -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project

Re: [WISPA] FCC geographic search

2008-08-12 Thread Brian Webster
Chuck, What exactly are you having problems with? Any FCC ULS searches have been a crap shoot for me. Much of the time I find that for any queries to work well, you need to be as simple as possible. It seems that if you give it more complex conditions to filter down the results, it gets

Re: [WISPA] FCC geographic search

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Wyble
Brian Webster wrote: Chuck, What exactly are you having problems with? Any FCC ULS searches have been a crap shoot for me. Much of the time I find that for any queries to work well, you need to be as simple as possible. It seems that if you give it more complex conditions to filter

Re: [WISPA] FCC geographic search

2008-08-12 Thread Randy Cosby
http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=alerts#71 Seems like there is always some sort of technical difficulties there. I enjoy getting pdf reports from ULS that are generated with the following footer: ReportMill Evaluation. Call 214.513.1636 for license :) Brian Webster wrote:

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-07-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative WISPs need to be able

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Hammett
When will we see your equipment? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Mike Hammett
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Mike - You really need to read the full 802.22 spec :) There is A LOT more than just channel bonding that make 802.22 good. - 6Mhz is more than enough

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread tonylist
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative When will we see your equipment? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
degrees more with another 20Mhz. Its all about mix and matching. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative What equipment lets

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread Charles Wyble
Tom DeReggi wrote: WISPs need to be able to deploy 10 megabit plus pipes to the home. People's 25 Mhz 3650 now becomes 45Mhz, when they combine 2155 with 3650. What is 2155? This is the second mention I have seen of it (both are on this thread). Google doesn't turn up much at a

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-30 Thread tonylist
Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Tony, Real

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread Mike Hammett
9:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Tony, the average Wisp is NOT a cellular company and cannot invest 50K per AP and 800 per CPE. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative I clearly understand this, where did you get $50k per AP and $800 per CPE?? Wimax? I would not care if a WISP had the money of a cellular company, these prices would not make scenes in either case. On top of this, cost

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread tonylist
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative What equipment lets me have 1 GB of throughput on a single site in only 20 MHz of available frequency? WISPs need

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread tonylist
@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative I clearly understand this, where did you get $50k per AP and $800 per CPE?? Wimax? I would not care if a WISP had the money of a cellular company, these prices would not make

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread reader
that low. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Mike - It's

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative The problem, here Tony, is that the MAC's and PHY

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread Brian Webster
, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative The problem, here Tony, is that the MAC's

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread tonylist
Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider Office: 207-667-7583 Fax: 207-433-1008 http://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-29 Thread tonylist
://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Personally, I really wonder if it is possible

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-28 Thread reader
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Mike I do not agree with this at all. Most WISP are used to using 20Mhz 802.11 devices which are VERY frequency inefficient. With 20Mhz and a radio designed to make the most use of the spectrum could easily create channels

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-26 Thread tonylist
://www.demarctech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative Hopefully he's not referring

Re: [WISPA] FCC Member, Lessig Unveil U.S. Broadband Initiative

2008-06-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Hopefully he's not referring to the 20 MHz they're trying to make for free access there. 20 MHz here and there just isn't going to work for broadband. Real throughput requires that much per sector. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original

Re: [WISPA] FCC chief's free broadband plan delayed

2008-06-06 Thread reader
The FCC wants to put you out of business by getting someone to provide internet for free to your customers. With FRIENDS like that, who needs enemies? insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
12:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Whether it is the job of the FCC to ensure fairness with regards to telecommunications contracts is yet to be determined. Traditionally, STATE COURTS have resolved contractual disputes. However, in 2005, a cell carrier named SunCom filed

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-04 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes The problem lies in the common belief that one can draft a contract which imposes a penalty for breach

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-03 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
Sounds like you and your militia buddies better go do sumptin' 'bout it. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes That's really a non-response to the issue. As a WISP, I

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-03 Thread reader
in the short run that's worth all of us vanishing. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Well, our cheapest install has always been $200 and I just raised it to $250. Prices go up from there. We also have a 1 month ROI on our installs. (install fee + 1st month service pays for the install) We also do not do contracts... everything is month

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Mike Hammett
The government should not restrict a company's ability to charge an early termination fee. Consumers are offered a lower startup price and lower monthly price because they commit to being a customer for a specified amount of time. If the government MUST get involved, perhaps require an option

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I personally would love to see this pass FCC. Large companies have a huge advantage over Small providers, because

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Scottie Arnett
: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:00 PM

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread reader
: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes . Just because the FCC rules it on the cell carriers (which I think is still not right), it should not be passed on to ISP's until the Internet is a fully regulated industry that falls under their control. Scottie

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
was very good in that instance. Regulation (part-15 rules) is the only way we exist now. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes That last part about

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread reader
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Originally the telcos were unregulated. You had Bell, Gray, Home and others. Market forces started to help settle who the larger players were but there were still farmer lines

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes You make my case for me. If ISP's become fully regulated there will only be the telcos. Thanks for agreeing. Our survival DEPENDS on not being 'regulated'. insert witty tagline here - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Larry Yunker
be able to willingly break a contract. - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I still don't get it. If you specifically stated

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread David E. Smith
If ISP's become fully regulated there will only be the telcos. Thanks for agreeing. Our survival DEPENDS on not being 'regulated'. Billions of dollars in government handouts without having to do any real work? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me. I wanna be a telco! :) David Smith

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
too. - Original Message - From: David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes If ISP's become fully regulated there will only be the telcos. Thanks for agreeing. Our survival DEPENDS

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Randy Cosby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes If ISP's become fully regulated there will only be the telcos. Thanks for agreeing. Our survival DEPENDS on not being 'regulated'. Billions of dollars

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Chuck, maybe you can shed some light on a thought I had here. With most of my telco contracts, there is not an early termination fee involved. Instead, I am

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Matt
This could turn in to something it shouldn't really fast... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053002776.html I agree that this could be a real issue. But one thing that really irks me though is the under handed(in my opinion) use of auto renewing contracts.

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread reader
of the MONSTER they are so charmed by. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes We ARE regulated now

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
Yep, I got nailed by this once myself. - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes This could turn in to something it shouldn't really fast... http

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread Larry Yunker
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 5:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes This could turn in to something it shouldn't really fast... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053002 776

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread reader
- Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes With the mergers of Cingular and ATT and Nextel and Sprint, roughly half of all cell phone users in the U.S

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-02 Thread George Rogato
Larry Yunker wrote: but I think that cellular service is where this all started. Changes in availability, reliability, packages, and competition in the cellular market has also lead to much of the push for early termination fee (ETF) reform. There was a point in time when T Mobile was

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Let's talk about this for a minute. When I signed up for my $24.95 DSL, ATT *gave* me a free DSL modem- if the rules change, that won't be able to happen anymore. If you, as a WISP say here are your options 1. Pay $299 install

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I think the FCC should drop it and let capitalism take its course. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
will you lose? John Thomas -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 02:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I agree Travis. This will "hurt." The FCC seems to be overstepping their bound

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
: John J. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Let's talk about this for a minute. When I signed up for my $24.95 DSL, ATT *gave* me a free DSL modem- if the rules change, that won't be able

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Larry Yunker
I think that the FCC has a bona fide reason for addressing the early termination fee issue. The underlying concern is that early termination fees often do not reflect the true cost incurred by the contracting provider as a result of the subscriber's breach of contract. In reality, an early

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Or really, the consumer could just read the contract before they sign it. Problem solved. ;) Travis Microserv Larry Yunker wrote: I think that the FCC has a bona fide reason for addressing the early termination fee issue. The underlying concern is that early termination fees often do not

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Travis Johnson
Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 02:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I agree Travis. This will "hurt." The FCC seems to be overstepping their boundaries alot the last few months on m

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Larry Yunker
that a termination fee is imposed to penalize an unwilling party to the contract, the fee is invalid. - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread reader
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I think that the FCC has a bona fide reason

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread reader
insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Travis, I agree wholeheartedly that a customer

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-06-01 Thread Larry Yunker
of direction with regards to their obligations or limitations under common law and regulatory regimes. - Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 12:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Well lets say we can't charge early termination anymore, We are back to charging $300/install and paying $400 for a cellphone. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Travis Johnson
Exactly... which will pretty much stop our installs... cable, DSL and WiMAX providers will continue to do free installs. Travis Microserv Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Well lets say we can't charge early termination anymore, We are back to charging $300/install and paying $400 for a cellphone.

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Blair Davis
Well, our cheapest install has always been $200 and I just raised it to $250. Prices go up from there. We also have a 1 month ROI on our installs. (install fee + 1st month service pays for the install) We also do not do contracts... everything is month to month. While the price of the

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, For whatever it's worth, we have often followed the cell companies in many ways (not intentionally, it just seems to work out that way). We are often on towers close to their towers, we often follow the same backhaul paths that they use, etc. We also followed their activation/billing

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Blair Davis
I'm sure you are much larger than I! If I can ask, in that same time period, April, how many disconnects (for non-payment) and quits did you have? I've made it a point to avoid churn and most often only loose a user when cable or DSL comes into his area with their $14.95 a month deal...

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Scottie Arnett
I agree Travis. This will hurt. The FCC seems to be overstepping their boundaries alot the last few months on many issues, and this is another area I think they should stay out of. Just my 2 cents. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Travis Johnson

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Frank Crawford
Travis, Put a different name on it like Equipment removal fee and drive on. Frank - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 8:51 PM Subject: [WISPA] FCC changes This could turn in

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread Tom DeReggi
] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes Travis, Put a different name on it like Equipment removal fee and drive on. Frank - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread reader
: Saturday, May 31, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I agree Travis. This will hurt. The FCC seems to be overstepping their boundaries alot the last few months on many issues, and this is another area I think they should stay out of. Just my 2 cents. Scottie

Re: [WISPA] FCC changes

2008-05-31 Thread John J. Thomas
and a *lease* fee of $22 per month, and the WISP owns the equipment How will you lose? John Thomas -Original Message- From: Scottie Arnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 02:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC changes I agree Travis

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread George Rogato
: Re: [WISPA]FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach While at it, bill the IRS for your time in filling out their data requests which they will use against you. Ditto the census bureau, you must be really steamed when they roll around... Or perhaps you are one of those

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread Jeff Broadwick
That was what Wesley Snipes thought... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:27 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach Or perhaps

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread Jeff Broadwick
19, 2008 12:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach without just compensation It is taken every day of the week. And we always provide just compensation - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread Ron Wallace
:16 PM To: ''WISPA General List'' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach It looks like Mark from Neofast is back disguised as muddyfrogwater. How fun is this? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread Victoria Proffer
on Youtube. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 2 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]FCC

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
, May 19, 2008 10:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach I don't know if you are aware of this but there is no law requiring you to pay income tax, have you ever read any of the U.S. code? Why do you think they want to pass a federal

Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach

2008-05-19 Thread CHUCK M
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: May 19, 2008 10:45 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC approves new method for tracking broadband's reach Your wrong, Wesley Snipes is going to jail for 3 years because a JURY felt he should. Kurt

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