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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Tindall, Dave
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I’ll vote for you Lee!!! J What’s
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:18 PM
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IANAL
] On Behalf Of Peter P Morrissey
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 7:27 PM
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That’s my point. If it isn’t my network, then it isn’t the MiFi owner’s network
either.
Pete
, October 28, 2014 9:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
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While I understand the concerns of enterprise Wi-Fi managers, I think it would
be difficult for the FCC to modify these rules in a way
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:48 AM
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To me (and I am an Extra Class licensed ham, radio hobbyist, WLAN type
, 2014 6:48 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
To me (and I am an Extra Class licensed ham, radio hobbyist, WLAN type, and
government official who understands Part 15 and others) it seems like one
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Tindall, Dave
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I’ll vote for you Lee
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Brian Helman
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
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Marriott Hotel Services has come to a $600,000 agreement with the Federal
Communications Commission to settle allegations that the hotel chain
interfered
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Williams, Matthew
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:32 PM
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I don't think that there's a distinction about
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WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Williams, Matthew
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I don’t think that there’s
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
My thought is that the FCC is simply trying to police the ISM band, as
outlined in FCC part 15 regulations
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=d5df6d61f643786c6651653f0942fd73node=pt47.1.15rgn=div5
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WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Kitri Waterman
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Marriott Hotel Services has come
: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
My thought is that the FCC is simply trying to police the ISM band, as
outlined in FCC part 15 regulations
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=d5df6d61f643786c6651653f0942fd73node=pt47.1.15rgn=div5
The 2.4GHz ISM
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Kitri Waterman
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Marriott Hotel Services has come to a $600,000
: *Monday, October 27, 2014 4:05:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN
quarantine features illegal
My thought is that the FCC is simply trying to police the ISM band, as
outlined in FCC part 15 regulations
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID
, October 27, 2014 5:18 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
IANAL, but it seems the FCC is trying to regulate the “communications.” Sending
a spoofed disassociate may not be jamming
:* Monday, October 27, 2014 4:05 PM
*To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN
quarantine features illegal
My thought is that the FCC is simply trying to police the ISM band, as
outlined in FCC part 15 regulations
http
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
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So isn’t the MiFi device essentially jamming your network and interrupting
valid communications if it overlaps a nearby channel?
No. It's not your network, in the sense that the wired
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IANAL, but it seems the FCC is trying to regulate the “communications.”
Sending a spoofed disassociate may not be jamming, but it is intentionally
interrupting valid communications
They're trying to enforce their rule making, which means this will likely
end up in court. But yeah, I agree that they're firing a warning shot that
using quarantine features goes against their rules. Can't go to jail for
doing it, but they do have the authority to levy fines.
On Fri, Oct 3,
This isn't going to help things much at all. Having consulted into these
spaces in the past, and as you know as a you have going to a conference,
wifi is just bad in public spaces. Bad bad bad.
I am reminded of Steve Job's snafu in 2010, as so well documented in this
vid:
The first thoughts that pop to my mind are when is it ok to contain an AP that
isn’t a) on your network and b) doesn’t belong to one of your employees? As
it’s being used by a hotel guest the usual security concerns about rogues don’t
apply. Would this be any different than containing an AP
Of Daniel Eklund
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 1:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
They're trying to enforce their rule making, which means this will likely end
up in court. But yeah, I agree
People bring their own regardless of how good your Wi-Fi is. Many think I pay
for it, it's mine and their is zero be a good radio citizen guidance at time
of purchase.
On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Pete Hoffswell
pete.hoffsw...@davenport.edumailto:pete.hoffsw...@davenport.edu wrote:
This
Everything would be so much simpler if locations would provide Wi-Fi for free
or at a reasonable price.
When a technology is used by everyone (e.g. Electricity) like Wi-Fi, just
include it in the cost of doing business.
Stop charging users for Wi-Fi, especially when the room is already at
Several hotels I've had the pleasure of staying in often will offer a free
wired port, but charge for wifi. Which makes absolutely no sense. I have
the older version of this D-Link portable router
http://us.dlink.com/products/connect/wi-fi-ac750-portable-router-and-charger-3/
that
has been a
On Oct 3, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu wrote:
I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that. I've been
in a position where I've offered university guests access to our wifi. A
number of these users - smart, highly technical IT professionals - instead
Also security fears of using public Wi-Fi.
Original message
From: Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu
Date:10/03/2014 2:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Cc:
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
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I
, 2014 2:41 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
The first thoughts that pop to my mind are when is it ok to contain an AP that
isn't a) on your network and b) doesn't belong to one of your employees
What happens when all these hotspots start interfering with your business
wireless APs and prevent you from conducting business? In the case of a hotel
if all the door access is using wireless to let you in your room and all the
personal hotpots being used by guests are preventing doors
Sweetser f...@wpi.edu
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Sent: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 3:55 PM
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I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that. I've been
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brian Helman
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 4:39 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
I just saw this on CNN and jumped
mistakes. Verify anything
sent.
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From: Frank Sweetser f...@wpi.edu
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Sent: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN
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: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN quarantine
features illegal
I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that. I've been
in a position where I've offered university guests access to our wifi. A
number of these users - smart, highly technical IT professionals
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*Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] It would seem FCC just declared WLAN
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I just saw this on CNN and jumped on the list to post. Using your own AP
is against the AUP everyone signs at our institution. Now I wonder if that
clause is invalid
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Sent: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 3:55 PM
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I think a good chunk of the use is even more insidious than that. I've been
in a position where I've offered university guests access to our wifi
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