Re: Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Jason Machtemes
I ran into this same issue back in Aug this year and this was their response... (Note, I have not purchased and confirmed this yet) Jason Machtemes Thank you for contacting The NETSCOUT Technical Assistance Center. The engineering team got back to me just when you left the chat room, but the

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 5GHz Channel Width

2016-11-30 Thread Jake Snyder
One things to keep in mind is that certain device manufacturers preference wider channels. Apple in the Mac OS X products for instance, will always prefer an 80MHz channel over a 40MHz channel. As well as a 40MHz channel over a 20MHz channel. Things like DBS can lead to stickier clients, as

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 5GHz Channel Width

2016-11-30 Thread Jason Cook
I’m really only starting to play in this space over the last year but below is my thoughts. Ideally you want same channels as far away from each other as possible, interference signal levels travels further than acceptable coverage (so you might target 25SNR for signal but I think something

Re: Alternatives to AT WiFi

2016-11-30 Thread Green, William C
Very much like your site, we’ve utilized attwifi as a third party provider for guests for nearly five years. We have not received DMCA notices, as that is AT’s network, and don’t know how many they may have received. Similarly for CALEA. We would of course assist AT if they required L2

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Tyler
Thanks! I seem to have it working now, though I should probably test another device. I am not sure what I did. I enabled the DNLA protocols but I am not sure if that was necessary in AirGroup. One of my problems might have been related to not being logged into a gmail account when testing.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 5GHz Channel Width

2016-11-30 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
Depending on the building construction, and assuming you are using DFS channels, running 40Mhz and even 80Mhz is very likely with no downside. 5GHz does not propagate very well, so a static 20Mhz plan in anything but big open spaces is IMHO unnecessary. If you are a Cisco customer, enabling

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck Enfield
My hero! -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Lee H Badman
Being a man of action, let me see if I can get any additional information on this from my contact at NetScout. Stand by. Talk amongst yourselves. Smoke em if you got em. > On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Jethro R Binks wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Nov 2016, Lee H Badman

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Bucklaew, Jerry
On 11/30/2016 11:20 AM, Tim Tyler wrote: > Tim, > > “subnet based on policy”? I have a pool of 6 vlans of which devices get > randomly assigned to one of the 6 subnets. > How does Airgoup know which subnets the two pairing devices are in? I > thought it required a broadcast to find each >

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Cappalli, Tim (Aruba)
Policy based on AirGroup authorizations from ClearPass. If I have a Chromecast/AppleTV/whatever on subnet A, when that device authenticates to the network, the controller will send an AirGroup Authorization Request to ClearPass. ClearPass will return sharing properties of the device

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Tyler
Tim, “subnet based on policy”? I have a pool of 6 vlans of which devices get randomly assigned to one of the 6 subnets. How does Airgoup know which subnets the two pairing devices are in? I thought it required a broadcast to find each other. I would think that would require a broadcast

Wireless LAN Community Compensation Survey

2016-11-30 Thread Robert Boardman
Hi All, WirelessLAN Professionals has put out an anonymous compensation survey for WLAN Professionals. It's quick, easy and only takes about 90 seconds. The results will also be publicly available. So please take a few seconds to help the community out. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/wlccs2016

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Cappalli, Tim (Aruba)
Yes, AirGroup sends the mDNS or SSDP advertisement out onto the subnet where the user is based on policy. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Tyler Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 To:

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Tyler
Tim, So even if the two peering devices are on two different subnets, it should still work? Tim *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Cappalli, Tim (Aruba) *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:41 AM *To:*

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck Enfield
We were told that for a 7240 controller AirGroup was limited to receiving (not necessarily responding to) 200 pps. Given the typical amount of multicast traffic coming from client devices, I would expect 200pps to be reached at a tiny fraction of the 32K devices a 7240 claims to support.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Gathering student and faculty feedback

2016-11-30 Thread Fligor, Debbie
We’ve done just a little bit of this in the last year with a product called NetBeez. We’ve only got 10 or so of our 35 wi-fi units installed, mostly in the building our offices are in. We have a small list of important campus services that they try and reach over wireless. We were able to

Gathering student and faculty feedback

2016-11-30 Thread Mark McNeil [Staff]
I just received about 20 double sided pages of feedback rom one of our professors. She decided she would do a survey on wireless in classrooms to two of her classes. The responses as I'm sure you've all experienced are very accurate(lol). My question is does anyone utilize a specific tool or

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Wilkinson, Doug
We use our guest SSID for devices that rely on bonjour with airgroups enabled. Multicast overall is disabled, airgroups handles any bonjour communication. We use larger /18 nets mainly to facilitate roaming. Airgroups doesn't care what subnet you are on. Devices on our secure SSID can talk to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Cappalli, Tim (Aruba)
Tim, Chromecast will work with the AirGroup service Googlecast enabled and with drop broadcast/multicast enabled on the VAP. This can work in large subnets or multiple smaller subnets. Tim Aruba ClearPass Team From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck Enfield
Perhaps SHA256 4K wasn't the best choice right now. The good news is that we're exclusively PAP (never thought I'd say that), so we're pretty much limited to computing devices on our 1x network. To my knowledge we haven't uncovered any compatibility issues other than our AirChecks.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Tyler
Jon We do have the AirGroup functionality enabled. But I also have a pool of 6 /23 vlans. So my first question is did you set up an independent SSID for L2 devices to register? Did you use one vlan (subnet)? What size? I am curious about the details to allow broadcast, but I am guessing I

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Lee H Badman
OK- I did query NetScout as well, as I have a contact close to this product line. Even if the answer is “we can’t do that with the G2”, no one should have to wait for an answer. Lee Badman | CWNE #200 | Network Architect Information Technology Services 206 Machinery Hall 120 Smith Drive

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Lee H Badman
Hmmm. Intriguing. We have wireless locks as our most IoT-ish clients, and they do OK with our longer certs. This could be a really interesting topic at the macro level. Lee Badman | CWNE #200 | Network Architect Information Technology Services 206 Machinery Hall 120 Smith Drive Syracuse, New

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Chuck Enfield
We’re TTLS. They can’t perform the encryption based on the server cert. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 6:03 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Jonathan Miller
I should add that there are probably other products that have this functionality, but I'm not aware of them. Jonathan Miller Network Analyst Franklin and Marshall College On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Tim Tyler wrote: > > > Wireless Lan members, > > We use Aruba Networks

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Jake Snyder
Not necessarily an EAP-TLS issue. I've personally seen some medical devices that puke on larger certs as well. Even using PEAP, they still get the cert from the radius server for building the TLS tunnel. No tunnel, no credential exchange. No creds, no access. In one example, we saw a 3-part

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Jonathan Miller
Tim, The AirGroup functionality in Aruba ClearPass is probably what you're looking for. You can set it up so that when students register their devices, they can choose whether those devices are allowed to use broadcast/multicast to talk to their other devices, or even allow sharing to other

support of L2 peering devices?

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Tyler
Wireless Lan members, We use Aruba Networks for our wireless solution and we do have many L2 devices working that leverage Bonjour, etc. We simply do mac address authentication for them. Most L2 devices work fine.My big goal is to find out the different methods that some of you might be

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 5GHz Channel Width

2016-11-30 Thread Lee H Badman
Hi Donald, I’m not quite following the questions. Where we are very dense and likely to risk channel overlap with 40, we use 20. Examples- our stadium, dense residential environments, very RF porous buildings that are also dense. In 5 GHz, we *generally* let RRM pick channel, but often

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 5GHz Channel Width

2016-11-30 Thread Donald Ambrose
Any advice on manually setting up the 5 Ghz channels? Also I would like to use the DFS channels so that I can get a wider range to choose from. But I have noticed that the wattage correspond to the channel I choose in this band .So would it be advisable to use two 165s close enough or should I

Re: Decent tools, on sale

2016-11-30 Thread Lee H Badman
?That's actually a pretty interesting question, Chuck. I run the G2 (and G1) against 802.1X as well with RADIUS using the longer certs... but- using PEAP w/MS-CHAPv2. Which in this context, is largely irrelevant because you can simply ignore the certs. I'm guessing that you're using TLS? Lee