Lee, and All:
I wish to present a question mainly out of curiosity.
Is there desire to cross-post the message as such, before other technically
concerned parties, on other lists, such as ISP lists, the NOG lists etc.?
This may enlist more signatories.
Also, if there is the desire to
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Lee, and All:
I wish to present a question mainly out of curiosity
Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dr. Robert Mathews
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:39 AM
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Lee, and All:
I wish to present a question
On 8/1/2012 11:47 AM, Peter P Morrissey wrote:
I think it is a good question. One could argue that the more who sign
it, the better. I'm not sure though that this issue would be
applicable to an ISP. The petition emanated from the frustrations of
those directly involved in grappling with
On 8/1/2012 11:55 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
Dr. Mathews,
My own take is that anyone in IT that is feeling the pain will
immediately recognize what our group is trying to accomplish and is
welcome to add their comments and signature.
*Good afternoon, Lee:*
Thank you, for your note.
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple petition- update
On 8/1/2012 11:55 AM, Lee H Badman wrote:
Dr. Mathews,
My own take is that anyone in IT that is feeling the pain will immediately
recognize what our group is trying to accomplish and is welcome to add their
comments
On 8/1/2012 2:06 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:
Well then... spread the word, brother! We're live until August 10^th
for signatures.
-Lee
*Hi, Lee:* :-)
hehehehehe
Well, I am not sure, just what I am able to do, or should do...! :-)
I was merely putting some suggestions forward...
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Continued
Sure. Will raise it thusly.
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, 2012 2:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Continued
Where is the petition?
Chad Street ( Emory )
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...
Regards,
Pete M.
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Continued
Hi Everyone-
After getting a bit of interest from a couple of CIOs, we're back to this
group being the best bet to bring the petition initiative to a point where
we have given it our best effort and present it to Apple.
If you recall, Neil
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Kaftan
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Continued
Our CIO holds a lot of clout with Apple based on previous history. At one
point he held the record
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check
I agree that there is a need to address all of the enterprise issues. We are
really struggling with the AppleID on iOS and it is going to get 10x worse
for us when we are forced to use Mountain Lion
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
All this chat about the Apple Petition yet I don’t seem to find a link for it
anywhere? Did I
the punch on their end.
John Kaftan
Infrastructure Manager
Utica College
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From: Kellogg, Brian D. bkell...@sbu.edu
Date: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:26 am
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check
To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
I agree. I think if it get
: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check
Tim,
I just loaded up
Constituent Group Listserv
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:59 AM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Fwd: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity
Check
I've never had a complaint about
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check
Folks,
Those interested seem to agree that we’d discuss specific pain points regarding
“those other” Apple devices like AppleTv and any AirPlay/Bonjour-dependent
gadgets until Friday, at which point we’d firm up
?
Mearl
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kellogg, Brian D.
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
Of Kellogg, Brian
D.
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
I might be misunderstanding something; if so please correct me. When I
setup a Linux MDNS server the bonjour devices all auto registered with
the DNS server
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check
What is the scope of the petition? What is the goal? Is it only to improve
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
I might be misunderstanding something; if so please correct me. When I setup a
Linux MDNS server the bonjour devices all auto registered with the DNS server
so there were no entries I had to manually create. I used
.
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris
Murphy
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
Honestly, if I
So for those of us without Facebook, no way of signing it?
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:14 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN
On 11/07/12 22:05, Johnson, Neil M wrote:
So, even if you setup static DNS-SD records, the Airplay receiver (Apple
TV) and Airplay transmitter (iPad, iPhone, or Mac running Mountain Lion)
have to be in the same subnet.
That is the reason for the 1st request in the petition.
Aerohive's
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse Rink
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check
So for those of us without Facebook, no way of signing it?
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 4:00 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
Please consider this- as we get to the point where we have an agreed on
document, say by this Friday, and we find an online petition site
[to...@usf.edu]
Received: Friday, 06 Jul 2012, 1:27pm
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
Also, for me, the lack of support for WPA2-Enterprise is a head-scratcher. If
they go through the trouble of supporting the rest
[curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu]
Received: Thursday, 05 Jul 2012, 5:02pm
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it
was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
You should add fast-roaming
Of Garry Peirce
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
I’m in support of the collective request to help enable further operational
flexibility, although also not sure Apple will feel enough pressure to assist
...@maine.edumailto:pei...@maine.edu
Date: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
I’m in support of the collective
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
All this chat about the Apple Petition yet I don’t seem to find a link for it
anywhere? Did I miss this in past messages? Can’t seem to locate anything..
Thanks
J
From
, July 10, 2012 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
I’m in support of the collective request to help enable further operational
flexibility, although also not sure Apple will feel enough pressure
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
If those entries work, and are all that is needed, then we're not far from full
support. It seems like we could get a tool or set of scripts to automate
creating
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
I would also offer that the beginning narrative includes something to the
effect of “with Apple client device penetration of 50% or more on the typical
campus environment, amounting to thousands of Apple client devices per campus
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
How does this sound for an update (The latest is posted on the Facebook site):
We the undersigned academic and research institutions hereby solemnly request
that Apple provide support for Bonjour/Airplay technology
: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
Nice and thank you
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:31 AM
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Issues Constituent Group Listserv
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Date: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:33 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
Nice and thank you
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent
: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson, Neil M
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:08 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition
First, I'm not beholden to the text
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You
knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
You should add
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike King
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it
was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
One more thing.
I think use
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 10:00 AM
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-LAN@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Kellogg, Brian D.
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew
it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
I agree although I expect
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it
was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
Apple either does not care or they have not gotten the message. There is no
way to know for sure which
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it
was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
I've added a section on solution criteria:
Whereas, we
THAT is the attitude that needs to be changed.
David Gillett
From: Johnson, Neil M [neil-john...@uiowa.edu]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 7:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew
believe THAT is the attitude that needs to be
changed.
David Gillett
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*From:* Johnson, Neil M [neil-john...@uiowa.edu]
*Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 7:55 AM
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Johnson, Neil M
[neil-john...@uiowa.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:37 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You
, 2012 3:37 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was
coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)
I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics things to request from Apple, but here is a
first pass):
Whereas, we
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Curtis K. Larsen
[curtis.k.lar...@utah.edu]
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