Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Butch Evans]

On 07/20/2013 12:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
> I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
> running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
> cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one
> link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

In ospf, the path cost determines where a packet is routed.  Take this 
simple example:


 -- R2 --
 |  |
R1  -  - R4 ->Target
 |  |
 -- R3 --

If, on the R1<->R2 interface, you add cost and all other settings are 
left at default then the traffic at R1 destined for the networks beyond 
R2/R3 would prefer the path that includes R3, since the cost is higher 
going through R2 interface.  Note that this cost is calculated on the 
OUTGOING interface, so this example assumes you have one interface for 
R2 and one for R3.  Additionally, because the outgoing path is the one 
where cost is calculated, the return traffic would consider both the R2 
and R3 path to be equal.  The essence of path cost is this:
higher cost = less preferred path

To calculate the path cost (from R1), the router would look at the cost 
of the interface: R1-R2, R2-R4 and compare it to R1-R3, R3,R4 path.

Distance is the metric that the kernel uses to determine which learned 
route to use.  You can google the "default route distance" to see the 
full chart.  Connected routes are distance 0; Static routes default at 
distance 1 and ospf learned routes are distance 110.  What this means is 
that a route learned by ospf will be used ONLY if there is no other 
shorter distance route installed.  In RouterOS, you can change the 
distance for static routes, so that you can use them as "backup" in case 
OSPF fails.

The OSPF priority parameter is only used to determine which router in a 
segment becomes the DR, BDR or just another router.  You can google 
"ospf designated router election" to see exactly how this happens.

> I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't
> always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between
> two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it
> as the backup link.

You are probably looking for cost instead of priority.  Just for the 
record, this is one of the things we cover in my classes.  There is one 
lab that we do that covers all of these things in great detail.


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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Scott Reed]

Cost is what is used for determining routes.  Priority is for who has 
the the more "important" information. Typically we leave the priority at 
default.

Set the cost on the backup links higher than the cost on the primary links.

On 7/20/2013 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - 
had a heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this 
week. We have enough links that we could set this up for redundancy 
but only have static routing in place, so I had to manually route 
around the down link.


I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's 
running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign 
cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one 
link over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.


Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, 
or if it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?


I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't 
always take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between 
two main towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it 
as the backup link.


Thanks for any advise!



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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Josh Luthman]

If you set each and every backhaul/link to 10 cost and there are three
backhauls between towers you have 30 cost.  If that last tower has
another option to the first tower with only one link and the cost is
10, it'll use the 10 instead of 30.  If the "cheaper" 10 is down, it
will use the 30 cost path.

You can set them all to 10 and then if you want a particular path to
be used more, reduce the cost.  Same goes the other way around.

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
> I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a
> heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have
> enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static
> routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link.
>
> I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
> running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
> cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link
> over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.
>
> Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if
> it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?
>
> I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always
> take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main
> towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup
> link.
>
> Thanks for any advise!
>
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[WISPA] OSPF Tutorial/Guide

[Chris Fabien]

I need to get OSPF running on the network linking our 4 core towers - had a
heat related failure on a mikrotik radio cause an outage this week. We have
enough links that we could set this up for redundancy but only have static
routing in place, so I had to manually route around the down link.

I have a bench setup running based on the Mikrotik Wiki example, it's
running and working, but I'm stuck on the part where I assign
cost/distance/priority or whatever the term is to make it decide one link
over another. I'm not really grasping how that works.

Any suggestions for a tutorial or documentation which explains that, or if
it's simple, maybe just tell me what I need to do?

I want to be able to assign priority to the links so that it won't always
take the least # of hops path, we have a redundant link between two main
towers which is an old nanobridge link and want to reserve it as the backup
link.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Butch Evans]

On 03/05/2011 05:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> What is the largest value you can put in for an OSPF cost?  I'd almost
> recommend multiplying all of those numbers by 10 so you can do the fine
> level tweaking between the links.
See http://www.workrobot.com/sysadmin/routing/ospf_costs.html for a 
brief discussion of auto-costing in Cisco (and some other devices).  It 
also gives a brief discussion of type1 vs type2 announcements.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Mike Hammett]

What is the largest value you can put in for an OSPF cost?  I'd almost 
recommend multiplying all of those numbers by 10 so you can do the fine 
level tweaking between the links.

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On 3/5/2011 9:49 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:
> Basically, what is the fastest link in your network?  Let's say you
> have a GigE link.  You'll set that cost to 1.  Let's say you have a
> backup link that is a licensed 18GHz link that runs 350 Mbps.  You
> would make that cost a 3.  Then, you have a half-duplex Ubiquiti link.
>   Normally you would count it as 100 Mbps but since it's half duplex,
> you might want to divied it by two.  So, instead of setting it to 10,
> you'd set it to 20.
>
> If you have equal cost link but want one favored over the other,
> adjust the priority.
>
> Then, make sure you are using the correct type 1/type 2 calculations
> for your network typology.
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Kristian Hoffmann]

On Sat, 2011-03-05 at 10:56 -0500, Justin Wilson wrote:
> Can someone explain, in plain English, the difference between type 1 and
> type 2 calculations? Mikortik only explains it is white box vs something
> else.  Cisco says A type 1 route has a metric that is the
> sum of the internal OSPF cost and the external redistributed cost. A type 2
> route has a metric equal only to the redistributed cost.

In broad strokes, the "cost" between any two points on an OSPF network
is the sum of the interface costs between the two routers in question
following a particular path (there could be more than one).  As
suggested before, a white board is good for this.  Start with, say 10,
for every interface.  Then start adding up the costs for paths that are
important to you.  If a path is being chosen that you don't want, start
incrementing the cost on both sides of the link until the correct path
has a lower cost.

If your external routes are type 1, a router will take that cost into
account when determining which route is better (if there is more than
one learned).  If it's type 2, it will only use the metric assigned to
it when it's injected/learned by into OSPF.

A MikroTik example regarding default routes (though any external route
should do the same)...

---Type-2---
Router A:
/router ospf instance
  set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-2
  set default metric-default=10

Router B:
/router ospf instance
  set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-2
  set default metric-default=20


---Type-1---
Router A:
/router ospf instance
  set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-1
  set default metric-default=10

Router B:
/router ospf instance
  set default distribute-default=if-installed-as-type-1
  set default metric-default=10


In the Type-2 case, router X will always choose router A's default
route, if it's being injected.

In the Type-1 case, router X will choose the default route that has a
lower OSPF path cost.


It's Saturday morning and I didn't double check any books, so please be
gentle if I missed some subtle detail. :-)

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Justin Wilson]

 Can someone explain, in plain English, the difference between type 1 and
type 2 calculations? Mikortik only explains it is white box vs something
else.  Cisco says A type 1 route has a metric that is the
sum of the internal OSPF cost and the external redistributed cost. A type 2
route has a metric equal only to the redistributed cost.

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 wrote:

>Basically, what is the fastest link in your network?  Let's say you
>have a GigE link.  You'll set that cost to 1.  Let's say you have a
>backup link that is a licensed 18GHz link that runs 350 Mbps.  You
>would make that cost a 3.  Then, you have a half-duplex Ubiquiti link.
> Normally you would count it as 100 Mbps but since it's half duplex,
>you might want to divied it by two.  So, instead of setting it to 10,
>you'd set it to 20.
>
>If you have equal cost link but want one favored over the other,
>adjust the priority.
>
>Then, make sure you are using the correct type 1/type 2 calculations
>for your network typology.
>
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[can...@believewireless.net]

Basically, what is the fastest link in your network?  Let's say you
have a GigE link.  You'll set that cost to 1.  Let's say you have a
backup link that is a licensed 18GHz link that runs 350 Mbps.  You
would make that cost a 3.  Then, you have a half-duplex Ubiquiti link.
 Normally you would count it as 100 Mbps but since it's half duplex,
you might want to divied it by two.  So, instead of setting it to 10,
you'd set it to 20.

If you have equal cost link but want one favored over the other,
adjust the priority.

Then, make sure you are using the correct type 1/type 2 calculations
for your network typology.



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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Scott Reed]

The problem is I need to know if there is a tool or set of guidelines to 
determine the proper path cost and priorities in an OSPF network so that 
when a link goes down the next best route is chosen.

On 3/4/2011 8:01 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
> This is too general of a question to answer. What exactly was the
> problem you encountered?
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Scott Lambert]

On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:08:55PM -0500, Scott Reed wrote:
> Does any one have a tool or guidelines for setting cost and priority
> on OSPF interfaces?
>
> We had a link go down today.  OSPF did what it should, but it did not
> move to the preferred alternate route.  I got it there by changing
> some costs, but I need a way to get it right without needing a failure
> to tell me it is wrong.

A/Several big white board(s) and do the dijkstra algorithm on it/them
for every possible path?

Or, call it maintenence and manually break OSPF on one leg at a
time between 2 and 6 am.

Tweaking all the costs on all the hops for a very interconnected
OSPF network could be a large project.  I'm just happy if things
can limp along until I get a chance to look at it and see if I can
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Patrick Shoemaker]

This is too general of a question to answer. What exactly was the 
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On 3/4/2011 7:08 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> Does any one have a tool or guidelines for setting cost and priority on
> OSPF interfaces?
> We had a link go down today.  OSPF did what it should, but it did not
> move to the preferred alternate route.  I got it there by changing some
> costs, but I need a way to get it right without needing a failure to
> tell me it is wrong.
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[WISPA] OSPF Route Cost Calculations

[Scott Reed]

Does any one have a tool or guidelines for setting cost and priority on 
OSPF interfaces?
We had a link go down today.  OSPF did what it should, but it did not 
move to the preferred alternate route.  I got it there by changing some 
costs, but I need a way to get it right without needing a failure to 
tell me it is wrong.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Josh Luthman]

I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for then, perhaps other people are
in the same position or it doesn't exist as you suggested...

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> I had seen that, Josh, but it wasn't quite what I am looking for.  It
> may be useful in what I am looking for, but not quite it.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Does this help?
> >
> > http://inetpro.org/wiki/OSPF_Reference_Bandwidth_Calculator
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> >> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
> >> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
> >>
> >> Scott Reed wrote:
> >>
>  Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs and
>  track what you have set for OSPF costs?
>  What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
>  all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

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I had seen that, Josh, but it wasn't quite what I am looking for.  It 
may be useful in what I am looking for, but not quite it.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Does this help?
>
> http://inetpro.org/wiki/OSPF_Reference_Bandwidth_Calculator
>
> If not what does it need that you want?
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> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>
>   
>> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
>> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
>>
>> Scott Reed wrote:
>> 
 Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs and
 track what you have set for OSPF costs?
 What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
 all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
 selected nodes.


 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Josh Luthman]

This maybe?

http://www.cc-consult.co.uk/ospfcalc.htm

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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> Right, but that is not what I am looking for.
> I want to put each interface and the cost assigned to that interface in
> a database.
> I want to put in the interfaces each interface is directly connected to
> in the database.
> I want the tool to calculate the routes and cost between two selected
> interfaces.
> I guess what I want is an off-line cost calculator.
> This way I can change one cost and see all the routes that are
> influenced by the change, without impacting the real network.  It also
> means that before adding another node I can easily determine what costs
> to set on the new node to ensure traffic flows the best way.
> This will also help in determining the best route to use should the load
> on any given link rise to the point that I need to route some of the
> traffic over different links.
>
>
> Dennis Burgess wrote:
> > ya, there is a route calculation done in Routing ospf in MT>  IT shows
> > you the costs.
> >
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> > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:52 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations
> >
> > show ip route
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
> >> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
> >>
> >> Scott Reed wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs
> >>>> and
> >>>> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
> >>>> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
> >>>> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
> >>>> selected nodes.
> >>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Scott Reed]

Right, but that is not what I am looking for.
I want to put each interface and the cost assigned to that interface in 
a database.
I want to put in the interfaces each interface is directly connected to 
in the database.
I want the tool to calculate the routes and cost between two selected 
interfaces.
I guess what I want is an off-line cost calculator.
This way I can change one cost and see all the routes that are 
influenced by the change, without impacting the real network.  It also 
means that before adding another node I can easily determine what costs 
to set on the new node to ensure traffic flows the best way. 
This will also help in determining the best route to use should the load 
on any given link rise to the point that I need to route some of the 
traffic over different links.


Dennis Burgess wrote:
> ya, there is a route calculation done in Routing ospf in MT>  IT shows
> you the costs.
>
> ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> WISPA Vendor Member
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> LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
> Author of "Learn RouterOS"
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:52 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations
>
> show ip route
>
> -Matt
>
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>
>   
>> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
>> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
>>
>> Scott Reed wrote:
>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs  
>>>> and
>>>> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
>>>> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
>>>> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
>>>> selected nodes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Dennis Burgess]

ya, there is a route calculation done in Routing ospf in MT>  IT shows
you the costs.

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

show ip route

-Matt

On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
>
> Scott Reed wrote:
>>> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs  
>>> and
>>> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
>>> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
>>> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
>>> selected nodes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

>>
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>> 11/23/09 19:45:00
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Matt Liotta]

show ip route

-Matt

On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
>
> Scott Reed wrote:
>>> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs  
>>> and
>>> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
>>> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
>>> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
>>> selected nodes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date:  
>> 11/23/09 19:45:00
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Josh Luthman]

Does this help?

http://inetpro.org/wiki/OSPF_Reference_Bandwidth_Calculator

If not what does it need that you want?

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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
> Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?
>
> Scott Reed wrote:
> >> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs and
> >> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
> >> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for
> >> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2
> >> selected nodes.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date:
> 11/23/09 19:45:00
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Scott Reed]

Does the lack of response mean there is no tool?
Is this something WISPS would use if it were available?

Scott Reed wrote:
>> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs and 
>> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
>> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for 
>> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2 
>> selected nodes.
>>
>> 
>
>   
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.79/2522 - Release Date: 11/23/09 
> 19:45:00
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>   

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[WISPA] OSPF Calculations

[Scott Reed]

> Does anyone have a tool you use to help determine OSPF link costs and 
> track what you have set for OSPF costs?
> What I would really like is something I can enter the link costs for 
> all the paths and then it will show the costs and routes between 2 
> selected nodes.
>

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 13:06 -0500, Butch Evans wrote: 
> So, the short answer is:  Keep the number of interfaces around (or
> below) 100 or so.

I should add that I DO have customers who have well over 150 ROUTERS
with multiple interfaces in a single area.  This limit is not a "hard
limit".  The other reality is that when you reach that number of
routers, it is very likely that a network should be relatively easy to
reconfigure into multiple areas.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Butch Evans]

On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:44 -0600, Kevin Neal wrote: 
> I'm pretty sure the limit is just CPU/Memory.  We currently 112
> routing entries in one of our networks, this is on a network with 24
> OSPF routers.

Number of routes is not that much of a problem.  I have one customer
with about 8k OSPF routes (he does pppoe).  You can do BGP with nearly
300K routes without problems.  

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

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On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 10:33 -0500, Jory Privett wrote: 
> For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  
> or any other brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes 
> or routers in a single OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory 
> or is there something else that dictates it?

While there may be an actual maximum number, I cannot find that in the
standard.  In practice, however, I have found that keeping the number of
interfaces in an area under 100 to be helpful.  Realistically, that is a
very large number.  Also, it is important to note the difference between
"interfaces" and "routers" in OSPF networks.  An "OSPF Router" (which
can be viewed in Mikrotik in the GUI) is a device that is participating
in the OSPF network on any interface.  An "OSPF interface" is what gets
counted as a "hop" and is, therefore, part of the path cost
calculation.  

So, the short answer is:  Keep the number of interfaces around (or
below) 100 or so.

I have seen SOME people who recommend under 200 ROUTERS per AS.  I have
not run into any sorts of limitations in that regard, but there are only
a few networks that I work on that have enough routers to even reach
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Using StarOS we have about 480 subnet routes propagating throughout our 
network.   This represents approximately 220 routed devices.

Matt Larsen
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Dennis Burgess wrote:
> I think a good OSPF single area would be around 75 routers.  Over that
> you get quite a bit of traffic.  Not saying that this is a hard limit,
> just a rule of thumb.  
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> Behalf Of Jory Privett
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:33 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] OSPF maximums
>
> For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  or any
> other brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in
> a single OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there
> something else that dictates it?
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Dennis Burgess]

I think a good OSPF single area would be around 75 routers.  Over that
you get quite a bit of traffic.  Not saying that this is a hard limit,
just a rule of thumb.  

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Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:33 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  or any
other brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in
a single OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there
something else that dictates it?


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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Kevin Neal]

I'm pretty sure the limit is just CPU/Memory.  We currently 112
routing entries in one of our networks, this is on a network with 24
OSPF routers.

-Kevin


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Jory Privett  wrote:
> For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  or any other 
> brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in a single 
> OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there something else 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Nick Olsen]

If I understand correctly, There is no limit. But I vaguely remember 
something about OSPF being unstable with 500+ routers. As you start to get 
to much crosstalk overhead.
If its a big area you would need to do like OSPF and BGP I don't remember 
how it went, something like transit routes with ospf and advertise the 
customer space with bgp...

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106




From: "Jory Privett" 
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:33 AM
To: "wireless@wispa.org" 
Subject: [WISPA] OSPF maximums

For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  or any 
other brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in a 
single OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there 
something else that dictates it?

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[WISPA] OSPF maximums

[Jory Privett]

For all of you routing gurus out there,   On MikroTiks version,  or any other 
brand,  of OSPF what is the maximum number of routes or routers in a single 
OSPF Area?  Is this only limitied by CPU/Memory or is there something else that 
dictates it?


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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

Ahh, are you distributing connected routes?  If not, then until 
something connects, won't do anything :)

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Scott Reed wrote:
> Nothing associated on the Virtual. 
> The propagation was back out via the wire interface.
> I would not think it should matter if anything is connected.  The 
> interface is active, it has an address.  That address range should be 
> propagated by OSPF.  I will be at the site tomorrow.  I will connect to 
> the VirtualAP and see if that matters.
>
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>   
>> Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the 
>> physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the vap.
>>
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>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
>>> Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
>>> Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does 
>>> the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in v3.x?
>>> I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe not. 
>>> I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what 
>>> happens.
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something 
 else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!

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 Scott Reed wrote:
   
 
   
 
> I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not found 
> a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on 
> the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this can 
> be made to work?
>
> If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?
>
>   
> 
>   
> 
>   
 --

Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Josh Luthman]

It was all Dennis :)

On 7/1/09, Scott Reed  wrote:
> Maybe.  I will definitely try tomorrow at the site.
> I just tried on a wired interface that has nothing connected.  Rather
> interesting.  If the interface is enabled, it immediately propagates the
> route.  If it is disabled when the address is moved it does not
> propagate.  Leads me to believe when I associate to the VAP, it will
> make the route propagate.
> Thanks to both of you for the responses.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> If nothing was associated to the virtual AP then I'm thinking Dennis' idea
>> is right - it has no reason to propagate information to an interface that
>> is
>> "unplugged".
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Scott Reed
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Nothing associated on the Virtual.
>>> The propagation was back out via the wire interface.
>>> I would not think it should matter if anything is connected.  The
>>> interface is active, it has an address.  That address range should be
>>> propagated by OSPF.  I will be at the site tomorrow.  I will connect to
>>> the VirtualAP and see if that matters.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>>>
 Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the
 physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the
 vap.

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 Scott Reed wrote:


> Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
> Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
> Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does
> the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in
>
>>> v3.x?
>>>
> I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe
>
>>> not.
>>>
> I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what
> happens.
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>
>
>
>> A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with
>> something
>> else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!
>>
>> * ---
>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>> WISPA Vendor Member*
>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
>> 
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>>
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>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not
>>>
>>> found
>>>
>>> a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address
>>> on
>>> the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this
>>>
>>> can
>>>
>>> be made to work?
>>>
>>> If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Scott Reed]

Maybe.  I will definitely try tomorrow at the site.
I just tried on a wired interface that has nothing connected.  Rather 
interesting.  If the interface is enabled, it immediately propagates the 
route.  If it is disabled when the address is moved it does not 
propagate.  Leads me to believe when I associate to the VAP, it will 
make the route propagate.
Thanks to both of you for the responses.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> If nothing was associated to the virtual AP then I'm thinking Dennis' idea
> is right - it has no reason to propagate information to an interface that is
> "unplugged".
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Scott Reed wrote:
>
>   
>> Nothing associated on the Virtual.
>> The propagation was back out via the wire interface.
>> I would not think it should matter if anything is connected.  The
>> interface is active, it has an address.  That address range should be
>> propagated by OSPF.  I will be at the site tomorrow.  I will connect to
>> the VirtualAP and see if that matters.
>>
>>
>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>> 
>>> Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the
>>> physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the vap.
>>>
>>> * ---
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>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>> WISPA Vendor Member*
>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
>>> 
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>> 
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>>>   
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
 Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
 Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does
 the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in
 
>> v3.x?
>> 
 I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe
 
>> not.
>> 
 I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what
 happens.

 Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:


 
> A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something
> else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!
>
> * ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> WISPA Vendor Member*
> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
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>> material from any computer.
>> 
>
>
>
> Scott Reed wrote:
>
>
>
>   
>> I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not
>> 
>> found
>> 
>> a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on
>> the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this
>> 
>> can
>> 
>> be made to work?
>>
>> If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> --

Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Josh Luthman]

If nothing was associated to the virtual AP then I'm thinking Dennis' idea
is right - it has no reason to propagate information to an interface that is
"unplugged".

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> Nothing associated on the Virtual.
> The propagation was back out via the wire interface.
> I would not think it should matter if anything is connected.  The
> interface is active, it has an address.  That address range should be
> propagated by OSPF.  I will be at the site tomorrow.  I will connect to
> the VirtualAP and see if that matters.
>
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
> > Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the
> > physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the vap.
> >
> > * ---
> > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> > WISPA Vendor Member*
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> > Scott Reed wrote:
> >
> >> Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
> >> Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
> >> Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does
> >> the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in
> v3.x?
> >> I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe
> not.
> >> I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what
> >> happens.
> >>
> >> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something
> >>> else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!
> >>>
> >>> * ---
> >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> >>> WISPA Vendor Member*
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> >>>
> >>>
>  I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not
> found
>  a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on
>  the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this
> can
>  be made to work?
> 
>  If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?
> 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Scott Reed]

Nothing associated on the Virtual. 
The propagation was back out via the wire interface.
I would not think it should matter if anything is connected.  The 
interface is active, it has an address.  That address range should be 
propagated by OSPF.  I will be at the site tomorrow.  I will connect to 
the VirtualAP and see if that matters.


Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
> Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the 
> physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the vap.
>
> * ---
> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> WISPA Vendor Member*
> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net 
> 
> */ LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training /*
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>
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> Scott Reed wrote:
>   
>> Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
>> Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
>> Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does 
>> the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in v3.x?
>> I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe not. 
>> I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what 
>> happens.
>>
>> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something 
>>> else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!
>>>
>>> * ---
>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>> WISPA Vendor Member*
>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net 
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>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Scott Reed wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not found 
 a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on 
 the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this can 
 be made to work?

 If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?

   
 
   
 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net]

Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the 
physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the vap.

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Scott Reed wrote:
> Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
> Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
> Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does 
> the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in v3.x?
> I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe not. 
> I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what 
> happens.
>
> Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
>   
>> A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something 
>> else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!
>>
>> * ---
>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org 
>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>> WISPA Vendor Member*
>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net 
>> 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Scott Reed]

Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does 
the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in v3.x?
I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe not. 
I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what 
happens.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

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A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something 
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> I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not found 
> a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on 
> the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this can 
> be made to work?
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Jayson Baker]

I'd upgrade, and start there.  If I remember right, there were a lot of
routing changes in 3.x.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Scott Reed wrote:

> I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not found
> a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on
> the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this can
> be made to work?
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> If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?
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[WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

[Scott Reed]

I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not found 
a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on 
the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this can 
be made to work?

If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network

[Adam Greene]

The advice I have generally received is to use OSPF only for distributing 
infrastructure routes within one's network, and iBGP for all production 
routes (i.e. netblocks associated with customers and services).

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> More importantly OSPF or most IGPs for that matter can only get so
> large before their performance becomes an issue. BGP doesn't have
> these scalability issues. Therefore, large networks run OSPF or ISIS
> for select parts of their network and then aggregate the parts behind
> BGP.
>
> -Matt
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> On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:07 AM, Charles Wu wrote:
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>> Dynamic route redistribution if your network is sufficiently complex
>> and you have customers that you are servicing bgp to that you want
>> to protect from intra-network failure
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>> -Charles
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>> Subject: [WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network
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>> What are the bennefits of running both protocols in the internal
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network

[Matt Liotta]

More importantly OSPF or most IGPs for that matter can only get so  
large before their performance becomes an issue. BGP doesn't have  
these scalability issues. Therefore, large networks run OSPF or ISIS  
for select parts of their network and then aggregate the parts behind  
BGP.

-Matt

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> Dynamic route redistribution if your network is sufficiently complex  
> and you have customers that you are servicing bgp to that you want  
> to protect from intra-network failure
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> What are the bennefits of running both protocols in the internal
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network

[Charles Wu]

Dynamic route redistribution if your network is sufficiently complex and you 
have customers that you are servicing bgp to that you want to protect from 
intra-network failure

-Charles

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Subject: [WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network

What are the bennefits of running both protocols in the internal
network?
 

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network

[Scott Carullo]

Run what you require...  If you need internal dynamic routing protocol for 
your network only just use ospf - bgp on top would be unnecessary and most 
likely problematic ran in this fashion. 

If you require bgp because you have clients that you want to peer with then 
fine... 

Scott Carullo
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[WISPA] OSPF and BGP for Internal Network

[Gino Villarini]

What are the bennefits of running both protocols in the internal
network?
 

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

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Does the x86 exchange with the non-main router?
If it can route to it, they should exchange.  If it doesn't, check all 
the settings on the x86 again.  Area number is good.  Router number is 
unique.  Authentication is correct.  Any of those can make it not work.
You could turn on OSPF in logging and see what shows up in the log.  
Might point to the problem.

Gino Villarini wrote:
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> Well I have 1 "Main Router" with 2 peers on the same Eth port, I receive
> routes from 1, but not from the 2nd.  Im using the same area for both,
> different networks (2 /30)
>
> All are Mt 3.23 with routing test, the only difference is that the 2
> exchanging routes are rb1000, the other one is a x86 machine
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> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:40 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
>   
>> Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?
>> 
>
> Yes.
>  
>   
>> I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with 
>> the same area on the same interface?
>> 
>
> This is common for a broadcast network, actually.  What is it that makes
> you ask?  Are you seeing problems and wanting to clarify if this is a
> symptom of the problem?
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

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Well I have 1 "Main Router" with 2 peers on the same Eth port, I receive
routes from 1, but not from the 2nd.  Im using the same area for both,
different networks (2 /30)

All are Mt 3.23 with routing test, the only difference is that the 2
exchanging routes are rb1000, the other one is a x86 machine

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Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:35 AM
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On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:40 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?

Yes.
 
> I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with 
> the same area on the same interface?

This is common for a broadcast network, actually.  What is it that makes
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

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On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:40 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?

Yes.
 
> I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the
> same area on the same interface?

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

[Dennis Burgess - Linktechs]

yeppers

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>  
> I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the
> same area on the same interface?
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

[Kevin Neal]

Yes you can.

-Kevin
 

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Subject: [WISPA] OSPF question

Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?
 
I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the
same area on the same interface?
 

Gino A. Villarini
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[WISPA] OSPF question

[Gino Villarini]

Can I have several neighboors under the same interface?
 
I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the
same area on the same interface?
 

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[WISPA] OSPF on StarOS

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Very valuable advice for any of you who are using OSPF on StarOS

Make sure that any of your point-to-point wireless links have the 
statement "ip ospf network point-to-point" in each of your wireless 
interface definitions, otherwise you are going to see the StarOS OSPF 
act completely random and unreliable.  

Under each wireless backhaul interface, put in the following statement:

int wpci0
ip ospf network point-to-point

That will fix the problem. This will allow both sides of the connection 
to reach a state of full-adjacency.

I have to give credit to Butch Evans as well, as when I described my 
solution last night, he brought up the "point-to-point" declaration as 
another way of accomplishing the same thing.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF tips

[Anthony R. Mattke]

Putting everything in Area 0 works just fine, as long as you don't go 
above say, 50 routers. Yes, that is a just a number pulled out of the 
air. Why? Well, it depends on the cpu in the router, and how long you're 
willing to wait for a full convergence. As I see it, I wouldn't let it 
go above 50 routers in any single area.. not even with our decently 
powered ImageStream Rebels.

Just my 2p,

-Tony

Bryan Scott wrote:
> rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
>> Played with OSPF some, but am unclear on how to use the
>> 'area' parameter in my topology.  
> 
> 
> Unless yours is a multi-state topology with hundreds of routers, put 
> everything into Area 0.  It keeps things really simple.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF tips

[Bryan Scott]

I'll have to try that.  I set my PPPoE router to summarize that subnet, 
but it didn't work.

Eric Rogers wrote:
> I agree with Bryan, with a tweak.  A trick I just learned with RouterOS
> is you put your core routes on the 0.0.0.0 range and add your PPPoE
> range to a second area and then do an Area Range in the second range.
> It will keep your PPPoE from sending routes to all routers.  It will
> summarize them so your routers will get fewer updates.  You won't get
> /32 routes everywhere for every user.
> 
> Eric Rogers
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> rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
>> Played with OSPF some, but am unclear on how to use the
>> 'area' parameter in my topology.  
> 
> 
> Unless yours is a multi-state topology with hundreds of routers, put 
> everything into Area 0.  It keeps things really simple.
> 
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Re: [WISPA] OSPF tips

[Eric Rogers]

I agree with Bryan, with a tweak.  A trick I just learned with RouterOS
is you put your core routes on the 0.0.0.0 range and add your PPPoE
range to a second area and then do an Area Range in the second range.
It will keep your PPPoE from sending routes to all routers.  It will
summarize them so your routers will get fewer updates.  You won't get
/32 routes everywhere for every user.

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200


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rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
> Played with OSPF some, but am unclear on how to use the
> 'area' parameter in my topology.  


Unless yours is a multi-state topology with hundreds of routers, put 
everything into Area 0.  It keeps things really simple.

-- Bryan




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Re: [WISPA] OSPF tips

[Bryan Scott]

rabbtux rabbtux wrote:
> Played with OSPF some, but am unclear on how to use the
> 'area' parameter in my topology.  


Unless yours is a multi-state topology with hundreds of routers, put 
everything into Area 0.  It keeps things really simple.

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[WISPA] OSPF tips

[rabbtux rabbtux]

All,

I have a fully routed network thats been done manually.  Its getting
to be a complicated chore with the couple dozen little subnets to keep
track of.  Last year I upgraded 90% of my wireless network to
routeros.  Played with OSPF some, but am unclear on how to use the
'area' parameter in my topology.  I have several multi-network chains
that go out from my backhaul network like my diagram below:


Border/Backhaul - Router1-> connecting net-> Router2 -> connecting
net2-> Router3 -> AP network3
|
|

 AP network2

I understand that area 'backhaul' is reserved for routers that touch
the border.  should areas be defined for 'connecting net' and
'connecting net2'?  Then would router2 have 2 areas connected but no
backhaul??

Any pointers, tips, and links are greatly appreciated, as this task
seems to grow exponentially with each new network!

Thank you kindly,
Marshall
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[WISPA] OSPF on ROS V3.0

[Scott Reed]

I have tried setting up OSPF in 3 RB333s with ROS 3.0RC1. It doesn't

seem to work.  I have done the same thing with some 2.9.xx routers 
without a problem.  Does v3.0 not support OSPF, yet?


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Re: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)

[rabbtux rabbtux]

So if I understand you, I can fire up OSPF daemons and play with their
configuration throughout my network.  I can then query the daemons to
see what their routing tables are.  Once I see that the OSPF daemon
has a good routing table, I can remove some of my a static routes?
(route del -net n.n.n.n gw x.x.x.x)

Since a static route is not defined for a network, I would worry that
the static default route would apply before OSPF?


On 10/16/06, Russ Kreigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Marshall -

In my option that is the best way to migrate.

In Cisco world (and probably all routers), routes are indexed by an
administrative distance. Static routes have an AD of 1, BGP-20, OSPF-110,
etc. Whichever one has the best distance, is the one that the router
installs in the routing table.

So, you can turn up OSPF all over, verifiy that they are adjacent, then
remove your static routes one by one.

-Russ



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Subject: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)

All,

I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets.  I am about to
upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might be a time to
get my feet wet with OSPF.  I clearly see how the manual routing tables are
not very scale-able.  Here is my one question before I spend too much time
including OSPF as part of the upgrade.

Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF is
attached to a new interface.  At the other end of the new interface, is an
OSPF interface on another manually routed system.
Would this work?  This way I could preserve network stability by changing
only one small part of the network and OSPF.  Later, I could remove some of
my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers.

Is this possible?  Is this a practical way to migrate away from static
routing?  Any better suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Marshall
Rabbit Meadows Technology
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RE: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)

[Russ Kreigh]

Marshall -

In my option that is the best way to migrate.

In Cisco world (and probably all routers), routes are indexed by an
administrative distance. Static routes have an AD of 1, BGP-20, OSPF-110,
etc. Whichever one has the best distance, is the one that the router
installs in the routing table.

So, you can turn up OSPF all over, verifiy that they are adjacent, then
remove your static routes one by one.

-Russ

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:26 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)

All,

I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets.  I am about to
upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might be a time to
get my feet wet with OSPF.  I clearly see how the manual routing tables are
not very scale-able.  Here is my one question before I spend too much time
including OSPF as part of the upgrade.

Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF is
attached to a new interface.  At the other end of the new interface, is an
OSPF interface on another manually routed system.
Would this work?  This way I could preserve network stability by changing
only one small part of the network and OSPF.  Later, I could remove some of
my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers.

Is this possible?  Is this a practical way to migrate away from static
routing?  Any better suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Marshall
Rabbit Meadows Technology
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[WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)

[rabbtux rabbtux]

All,

I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets.  I am
about to upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might
be a time to get my feet wet with OSPF.  I clearly see how the manual
routing tables are not very scale-able.  Here is my one question
before I spend too much time including OSPF as part of the upgrade.

Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF
is attached to a new interface.  At the other end of the new
interface, is an OSPF interface on another manually routed system.
Would this work?  This way I could preserve network stability by
changing only one small part of the network and OSPF.  Later, I could
remove some of my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers.

Is this possible?  Is this a practical way to migrate away from static
routing?  Any better suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Marshall
Rabbit Meadows Technology
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RE: [WISPA] OSPF

[G.Villarini]

A router ?

Gino A. Villarini, 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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How can I setup the canopywireless using OSPF and partition this in areas
for different towerts?
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[WISPA] OSPF

[robert]

How can I setup the canopywireless using OSPF and partition this in areas
for different towerts?
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