Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
If you are not happy, we are more than willing to let you out of your contract and refund your installation fees" line. -forrest We have a pretty strict policy of no refunding install-set up fees. Maybe if we were incompetent, which has never happened yet, we would. But no money gets ref

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Forrest W Christian
Generally the customers we've offered to "remove equipment and refund install" for are in a situation where for whatever reason their expectation did not match what we were able to deliver. Sometimes we simply cannot deliver the service we typically provide to a customer to that customer for s

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: "D. Ryan Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'"

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
ng good to talk about. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers.

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
As a dial up isp with 3,000+ subs in a small town, I know exactly the type of customer your talking about. I went to the school of hard knocks too. Hey, your internet caused my computer to stop working... Your internet gave me that virus, you should clean my machine for free. blah blah blah. W

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Tom DeReggi
t, and recognize that its part of being a business. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:46 PM Subject

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I talking about the ones who cause problems on their computer and blame it on me. Then they tell my it's my job to fix it, for free. The internet is working fine when I go over there with my laptop. It's only a couple I've done this to. Brian George Rogato wrote: Customers are hard to com

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... Well, not very tactfully usually. I ignore them until they leave. Then I go get me gear

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: [WISPA] PITA customers... I am looking for advice and examples of what to do with PITA customers. I have a few that are just shy of abusive on the phone. Do you read them the riot act? Do yo

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Mike Hammett
ivett WCCS - Original Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... Nobody is proposing that customers should be disposed of "easily". We fight

RE: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick
"provenance"...wow! :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... George Rogato wrote: > Customers are hard to come

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Very well said. Customers 1-3 I bend over backward for. One customer recently was very vocal about their connection going downhill as the trees leafed out. I went as far as climbing 50 feet up several trees and topping them for this customer. That is not a PITA customer. (I have to admit, I

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007, David E. Smith wrote: One customer who persists in causing problems for dozens of other customers isn't worth it. This is the crux of the problem. I can deal with a customer who is simply rude. If their activities negatively impact other customers, then I have no beef

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Jory Privett
Message - From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... Nobody is proposing that customers should be disposed of "easily". We fight to obtain customers and we f

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Jack Unger
Nobody is proposing that customers should be disposed of "easily". We fight to obtain customers and we fight to keep them but disposing of a customer who is continually draining your resources or impacting the service that you deliver to others is a wise business decision, assuming that their c

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread David E. Smith
George Rogato wrote: Customers are hard to come by to dispose of them so easily. I wonder, I wonder what it is that is causing the customer to complain? I'll agree with the principle of this statement, that customers often have a legitimate reason for their complaints. Some folks, however, s

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread George Rogato
Customers are hard to come by to dispose of them so easily. I wonder, I wonder what it is that is causing the customer to complain? Maybe you can expand on why they are complaining or what the problem is for that particular customer. Also, Brian, if you don't call your customers back, regardl

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-17 Thread Frank Muto
Back in our dialup days, we when we started cueing up calls with "this call will be recorded for quality control purposes", sure did its job of significantly reducing PITA calls. Besides filtering out PITA calls, it kept our employees on their toes as well. Frank - Original Message --

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread John Scrivner
I can tell you that if you listen closely, even to those PITAs, sometimes you learn things you need to know. It may be that someone is doing things to that sector that are killing service quality for your PITA customer. I try hard to give the average PITA the benefit of the doubt as long as I c

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Jack Unger
Ryan, Here's one strategy for you to consider for the PITA customer. jack "Dear Mr. (Mrs.) xxyyzz, Thank you for your telephone

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Forrest W. Christian
D. Ryan Spott wrote: Do you read them the riot act? Do you turn them off? Do you collect an early termination fee? Try this line (or a similar tact:) "We are sorry you are not happy with our service. Unfortunately thare isn't anything else we can do to improve the service we are receivin

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Joe Miller
I've been known to fire customers like that. Life is too short to put upwith crap like that. I felt really good after that too. --- "D. Ryan Spott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for advice and examples of what to do > with PITA customers. > > > > I have a few that are just shy of a

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Sam Tetherow
Usually all I need to do is firmly let them know that their current attitude will not be tolerated. I basically treat them as I would my children if they are acting up, 9 times out of 10 they apologize and back down because usually it is just because they are frustrated with some aspect of thei

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am looking for advice and examples of what to do with PITA customers. Hmm. This is a tough question, really. It depends more on what they are doing to make themselves a PITA. Just a couple of stories perhaps will tell you how I handle that kind

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
t: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... A wise man once told me that 10% of your customers cause you 90% of your work. With that advice I decided the best thing to do was send the 10% to my competition. Brian D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am looking for advice and examples of what to do with PITA cust

RE: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Yes, But how do you do that? Do you write them a letter? Repo your gear? ryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PITA customers... A wise

Re: [WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
A wise man once told me that 10% of your customers cause you 90% of your work. With that advice I decided the best thing to do was send the 10% to my competition. Brian D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am looking for advice and examples of what to do with PITA customers. I have a few that are ju

[WISPA] PITA customers...

2007-08-16 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I am looking for advice and examples of what to do with PITA customers. I have a few that are just shy of abusive on the phone. Do you read them the riot act? Do you turn them off? Do you collect an early termination fee? Share your stories or policies. Thanks! ryan -