Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
By power supply I am talking about the on board power supply. My first pick for external supply is solar charger to 24V batteries. Lonnie On 9/12/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So what Power Supply has won your first pick approval? (between 21-28V) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance > No, not 48V yet. We are very happy with the current stuff, especially > since they handle 2 SR9 and 2 WLM54 cards. Any power supply gets a > lot of testing by me before I commit to it. I only change when there > is a good reason and simply because there is a new power supply is not > a good reason. > > Lonnie > > On 9/5/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: >> We run from >> > 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of >> > charge and battery. >> > Lonnie >> >> Are the 533 boards rated for 48 volts yet? >> >> George Rogato >> >> Welcome to WISPA >> >> www.wispa.org >> >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -- >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > > -- > Lonnie Nunweiler > Valemount Networks Corporation > http://www.star-os.com/ > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006 > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
So what Power Supply has won your first pick approval? (between 21-28V) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance No, not 48V yet. We are very happy with the current stuff, especially since they handle 2 SR9 and 2 WLM54 cards. Any power supply gets a lot of testing by me before I commit to it. I only change when there is a good reason and simply because there is a new power supply is not a good reason. Lonnie On 9/5/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We run from > 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of > charge and battery. > Lonnie Are the 533 boards rated for 48 volts yet? George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
As I said we are using 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis. We are in test mode so we are trying all of them for all locations so that we can find the best combination for the task. I am not at the point yet where I can give advice for which type to use for a certain task. There are still combinations to try as part of our evaluation. Lonnie On 9/5/06, cw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption. You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone point me at documentation for yagi propagation? I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more. - cw Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: > We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet. I do > not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable. I can > say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing. > Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless > 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis. > > Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios > in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots. We run from > 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of > charge and battery. With our tower locations I can hit the both > directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz. Wer > figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both. > The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs. > > I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a > few customers and let them beat on it. > >> On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? >> If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? >> > >> > At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two >> is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. >> At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely >> > associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've >> tried. >> > >> > A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac >> > Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi >> to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
No, not 48V yet. We are very happy with the current stuff, especially since they handle 2 SR9 and 2 WLM54 cards. Any power supply gets a lot of testing by me before I commit to it. I only change when there is a good reason and simply because there is a new power supply is not a good reason. Lonnie On 9/5/06, George Rogato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We run from > 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of > charge and battery. > Lonnie Are the 533 boards rated for 48 volts yet? George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We run from 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of charge and battery. Lonnie Are the 533 boards rated for 48 volts yet? George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
I've been holding off on the SR9's till I heard more and lonnie has had time to figure out what changes need to be made. Also I'm waiting on pac wireless 900 rootennas to make life easy. Sometimes it's better to wait. George cw wrote: Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption. You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone point me at documentation for yagi propagation? I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more. - cw Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet. I do not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable. I can say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing. Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis. Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots. We run from 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of charge and battery. With our tower locations I can hit the both directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz. Wer figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both. The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs. I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a few customers and let them beat on it. On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? > > At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely > associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried. > > A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac > Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption. You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone point me at documentation for yagi propagation? I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more. - cw Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet. I do not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable. I can say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing. Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis. Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots. We run from 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of charge and battery. With our tower locations I can hit the both directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz. Wer figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both. The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs. I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a few customers and let them beat on it. On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? > > At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely > associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried. > > A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac > Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet. I do not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable. I can say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing. Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis. Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots. We run from 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of charge and battery. With our tower locations I can hit the both directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz. Wer figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both. The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs. I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a few customers and let them beat on it. Lonnie On 9/5/06, Cliff Leboeuf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CW, Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I missed them. :( - Cliff On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so, > what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? > > At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock > solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of > a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely > associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried. > > A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac > Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni > was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. > > Thanks, > > cw > > TerraNovaNet > http://www.TerraNova.Net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 305-453-4011 > Think globally. Act locally. Conserve resources. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance
CW, Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I missed them. :( - Cliff On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, "cw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so, > what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? > > At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock > solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of > a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely > associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried. > > A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac > Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni > was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. > > Thanks, > > cw > > TerraNovaNet > http://www.TerraNova.Net > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 305-453-4011 > Think globally. Act locally. Conserve resources. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] SR9 Performance
Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end? At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried. A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions. Thanks, cw TerraNovaNet http://www.TerraNova.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 305-453-4011 Think globally. Act locally. Conserve resources. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance
Dan's got some. I'm awaiting 6, but I hear I won't be getting them till Mid-June. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SR9 performance Did you folks finally get some SR9s to test? How are your initial results On 5/18/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz channel and > RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set) > > Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on what you > pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz respectively. > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of chris cooper > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s > > > > > > Does anyone know how much of the band you take up as you raise the raw > data rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate, 10Mhz? > > > > Chris Cooper > > Intelliwave > > > > I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive.. > > > > > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] SR9 performance
Did you folks finally get some SR9s to test? How are your initial results On 5/18/06, Rick Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz channel and RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set) Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on what you pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz respectively. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s Does anyone know how much of the band you take up as you raise the raw data rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate, 10Mhz? Chris Cooper Intelliwave I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive.. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance
Here is the deal w/ the SR9 The DSP filter can listen on a 20mhz or 10mhz channel (RX), it can TX at 5mhz, 10mhz or 20mhz The newer atheros chipsets can listen on a 5mhz channel, but the chipset doesn’t have as good sensitivity as the 5213 chipset Dan Metcalf Wireless Broadband Systems www.wbisp.com 781-566-2053 ext 6201 1-888-wbsystem (888) 927-9783 [EMAIL PROTECTED] support: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz channel and RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set) Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on what you pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz respectively. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s Does anyone know how much of the band you take up as you raise the raw data rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate, 10Mhz? Chris Cooper Intelliwave I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive.. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 05/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/342 - Release Date: 05/17/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] SR9 performance
Someone mentioned that in their testing TX was in a 10 mhz channel and RX was 5 MHZ (or however you set) Either way, it wasn't setting it for the same width baed on what you pick - i.e. it was 5/10 10/10 and 20/10mhz respectively. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooperSent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:02 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'Subject: RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 112s Does anyone know how much of the band you take up as you raise the raw data rate on the SR9s? Ie, if I use 5 Mhz, what is the data rate, 10Mhz? Chris Cooper Intelliwave I will be trying them as soon as the SR9 cards arrive.. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/