RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread Marketing
Hello Mark,

Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have on
hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.

The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:

5600687 - L-Bracket Only
5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

Regards,
Ben Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Ben,

A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
B) If so, can we order mounts separately?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Hello Tim,

 When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29 antennas.
 These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
 locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This can 
 be
 seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:

 http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf

 If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts not
 provided).

 Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.

 Let me know if you have any questions.

 Regards,
 Ben Moore
 Sales Manager
 Pacific Wireless
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tim Kerns
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Mac,
 Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have

 4

 in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the 
 wind.
 I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
 roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much 
 less
 expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the
 ease
 of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
 unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Mark,

  I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi 
 grids,
 MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I
 have
 built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
 antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
 dual
 polarity ext's.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
 GHz

 antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
 with
 a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

 1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

 2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

 What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

 Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can 
 be
 adjusted.  Experience?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Thanks...to confirm...

It sounds like the only thing that is different is the L-Bracket to make it
the HDGD5X-XX?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Hello Mark,

 Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have on
 hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.

 The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:

 5600687 - L-Bracket Only
 5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
 5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

 Regards,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Ben,

 A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
 B) If so, can we order mounts separately?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


  Hello Tim,
 
  When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29 antennas.
  These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
  locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This
can
  be
  seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:
 
  http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf
 
  If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts
not
  provided).
 
  Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.
 
  Let me know if you have any questions.
 
  Regards,
  Ben Moore
  Sales Manager
  Pacific Wireless
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Tim Kerns
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Mac,
  Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I
have

  4
 
  in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the
  wind.
  I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
  Tim Kerns
  CV-Access, Inc.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
 I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or
a
  roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much
  less
  expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the
  ease
  of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no
brainer
  unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.
 
  Mac Dearman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Are we preferring their grids to dishes?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
  Mark,
 
   I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi
  grids,
  MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I
  have
  built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
  antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
  dual
  polarity ext's.
 
  Mac Dearman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about
5
  GHz
 
  antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
  with
  a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:
 
  1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.
 
  2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.
 
  What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...
 
  Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can
  be
  adjusted.  Experience?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread Marketing
The L-Bracket is the main difference.  The hardware included in the kit is
also a bit different due to the fact that the L-Bracket is tapped.

Thanks,
Ben Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Thanks...to confirm...

It sounds like the only thing that is different is the L-Bracket to make it
the HDGD5X-XX?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Hello Mark,

 Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have on
 hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.

 The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:

 5600687 - L-Bracket Only
 5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
 5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

 Regards,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Ben,

 A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
 B) If so, can we order mounts separately?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


  Hello Tim,
 
  When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29 antennas.
  These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
  locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This
can
  be
  seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:
 
  http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf
 
  If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts
not
  provided).
 
  Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.
 
  Let me know if you have any questions.
 
  Regards,
  Ben Moore
  Sales Manager
  Pacific Wireless
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Tim Kerns
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Mac,
  Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I
have

  4
 
  in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the
  wind.
  I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
  Tim Kerns
  CV-Access, Inc.
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
 I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or
a
  roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much
  less
  expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the
  ease
  of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no
brainer
  unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.
 
  Mac Dearman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Are we preferring their grids to dishes?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
  Mark,
 
   I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi
  grids,
  MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I
  have
  built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
  antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
  dual
  polarity ext's.
 
  Mac Dearman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about
5
  GHz
 
  antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
ok, we're close... Help me out.  I'm not familiar with your grid antennas at
all, and therefore not familiar with your mounts, and I'm sure that others
aren't as well.

You mentioned:

 5600687 - L-Bracket Only
 5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
 5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

So what we will need if we have a grid dish is a 5600687 and a 5200223, or
do we need all 3 parts to make the HD mount work?

Thanks for your patience...

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 The L-Bracket is the main difference.  The hardware included in the kit is
 also a bit different due to the fact that the L-Bracket is tapped.

 Thanks,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:22 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Thanks...to confirm...

 It sounds like the only thing that is different is the L-Bracket to make
it
 the HDGD5X-XX?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax

 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:47 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


  Hello Mark,
 
  Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have
on
  hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.
 
  The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:
 
  5600687 - L-Bracket Only
  5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
  5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit
 
  Regards,
  Ben Moore
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Ben,
 
  A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
  B) If so, can we order mounts separately?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
   Hello Tim,
  
   When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29
antennas.
   These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
   locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This
 can
   be
   seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:
  
   http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf
  
   If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts
 not
   provided).
  
   Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.
  
   Let me know if you have any questions.
  
   Regards,
   Ben Moore
   Sales Manager
   Pacific Wireless
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
   Behalf Of Tim Kerns
   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
  
   Mac,
   Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I
 have
 
   4
  
   in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the
   wind.
   I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
   Tim Kerns
   CV-Access, Inc.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
   Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
  
  
  I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower
or
 a
   roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much
   less
   expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as
the
   ease
   of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no
 brainer
   unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.
  
   Mac Dearman
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
   Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
  
   Are we preferring their grids to dishes?
  
   Mark Nash
   Network Engineer
   UnwiredOnline.Net
   350 Holly Street
   Junction City, OR 97448
   http://www.uwol.net
   541-998-
   541-998-5599 fax

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread Marketing
Sorry Mark. I should have explained in more detail.  

The 5200223 is the complete hardware kit with the heavy duty L-Bracket
included.  This is setup to be used on the wire grids.  

The 5200224 is the complete hardware kit with the heavy duty L-Bracket
included.  This is setup to be used on the die cast grids.

The L-Bracket can be purchased separately if you already have all of the
hardware (U-Bolts, pipe clamps, screws, nuts, etc...).  

Let me know if there are any other questions.

Thanks,
Ben Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

ok, we're close... Help me out.  I'm not familiar with your grid antennas at
all, and therefore not familiar with your mounts, and I'm sure that others
aren't as well.

You mentioned:

 5600687 - L-Bracket Only
 5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
 5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

So what we will need if we have a grid dish is a 5600687 and a 5200223, or
do we need all 3 parts to make the HD mount work?

Thanks for your patience...

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 The L-Bracket is the main difference.  The hardware included in the kit is
 also a bit different due to the fact that the L-Bracket is tapped.

 Thanks,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:22 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Thanks...to confirm...

 It sounds like the only thing that is different is the L-Bracket to make
it
 the HDGD5X-XX?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax

 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:47 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


  Hello Mark,
 
  Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have
on
  hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.
 
  The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:
 
  5600687 - L-Bracket Only
  5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
  5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit
 
  Regards,
  Ben Moore
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Ben,
 
  A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
  B) If so, can we order mounts separately?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
   Hello Tim,
  
   When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29
antennas.
   These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
   locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This
 can
   be
   seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:
  
   http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf
  
   If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts
 not
   provided).
  
   Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.
  
   Let me know if you have any questions.
  
   Regards,
   Ben Moore
   Sales Manager
   Pacific Wireless
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
   Behalf Of Tim Kerns
   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
   To: WISPA General List
   Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
  
   Mac,
   Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I
 have
 
   4
  
   in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the
   wind.
   I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
   Tim Kerns
   CV-Access, Inc.
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
   Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
   Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
  
  
  I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower
or
 a
   roof. I will tell ya though

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread George Rogato

Does this mount fit around a 2 galvi pipe?

I think a 2 galvi pipe has outside dimensions of 2 3/8
Nt quite sure.

George

Marketing wrote:
Sorry Mark. I should have explained in more detail.  


The 5200223 is the complete hardware kit with the heavy duty L-Bracket
included.  This is setup to be used on the wire grids.  


The 5200224 is the complete hardware kit with the heavy duty L-Bracket
included.  This is setup to be used on the die cast grids.

The L-Bracket can be purchased separately if you already have all of the
hardware (U-Bolts, pipe clamps, screws, nuts, etc...).  


Let me know if there are any other questions.

Thanks,
Ben Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:58 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

ok, we're close... Help me out.  I'm not familiar with your grid antennas at
all, and therefore not familiar with your mounts, and I'm sure that others
aren't as well.

You mentioned:


5600687 - L-Bracket Only
5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit


So what we will need if we have a grid dish is a 5600687 and a 5200223, or
do we need all 3 parts to make the HD mount work?

Thanks for your patience...

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



The L-Bracket is the main difference.  The hardware included in the kit is
also a bit different due to the fact that the L-Bracket is tapped.

Thanks,
Ben Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Thanks...to confirm...

It sounds like the only thing that is different is the L-Bracket to make

it

the HDGD5X-XX?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Hello Mark,

Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have

on

hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.

The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:

5600687 - L-Bracket Only
5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

Regards,
Ben Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Ben,

A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
B) If so, can we order mounts separately?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Hello Tim,

When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29

antennas.

These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This

can

be
seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:

http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf

If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts

not

provided).

Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Regards,
Ben Moore
Sales Manager
Pacific Wireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On

Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Mac,
Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I

have

4

in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the
wind.
I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower

or

a

roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much
less
expensive than a solid dish, wind

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-04 Thread Marketing
They come with the standard u-bolts, but they will accommodate a 4 u-bolt
as well (at this point we are not offering a 4 u-bolt, but might in the
future if there is enough demand).  I think most measurements are based on
the outside diameter so the 2 galvanized pipe would work with our standard
u-bolt. 

Ben 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Does this mount fit around a 2 galvi pipe?

I think a 2 galvi pipe has outside dimensions of 2 3/8
Nt quite sure.

George

Marketing wrote:
 Sorry Mark. I should have explained in more detail.  
 
 The 5200223 is the complete hardware kit with the heavy duty L-Bracket
 included.  This is setup to be used on the wire grids.  
 
 The 5200224 is the complete hardware kit with the heavy duty L-Bracket
 included.  This is setup to be used on the die cast grids.
 
 The L-Bracket can be purchased separately if you already have all of the
 hardware (U-Bolts, pipe clamps, screws, nuts, etc...).  
 
 Let me know if there are any other questions.
 
 Thanks,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:58 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 ok, we're close... Help me out.  I'm not familiar with your grid antennas
at
 all, and therefore not familiar with your mounts, and I'm sure that others
 aren't as well.
 
 You mentioned:
 
 5600687 - L-Bracket Only
 5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
 5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit
 
 So what we will need if we have a grid dish is a 5600687 and a 5200223, or
 do we need all 3 parts to make the HD mount work?
 
 Thanks for your patience...
 
 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:53 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
 The L-Bracket is the main difference.  The hardware included in the kit
is
 also a bit different due to the fact that the L-Bracket is tapped.

 Thanks,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:22 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Thanks...to confirm...

 It sounds like the only thing that is different is the L-Bracket to make
 it
 the HDGD5X-XX?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax

 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:47 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Hello Mark,

 Yes, the new model will work fine with the stock that distributors have
 on
 hand or parts that have been shipped in the past.

 The parts can be purchased separately.  Part #'s are as follows:

 5600687 - L-Bracket Only
 5200223 - Wire Grid Bracket kit
 5200224 - Die Cast Bracket kit

 Regards,
 Ben Moore
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:45 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Ben,

 A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
 B) If so, can we order mounts separately?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Hello Tim,

 When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29
 antennas.
 These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
 locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This
 can
 be
 seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:

 http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf

 If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts
 not
 provided).

 Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.

 Let me know if you have any questions.

 Regards,
 Ben Moore
 Sales Manager
 Pacific Wireless
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
 Behalf Of Tim Kerns
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-03 Thread Mark Nash - Lists

Ben,

A) Will these fit the models that the resellers have in stock now?
B) If so, can we order mounts separately?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Hello Tim,

When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29 antennas.
These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This can 
be

seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:

http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf

If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts not
provided).

Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Regards,
Ben Moore
Sales Manager
Pacific Wireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Mac,
Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have 
4


in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the 
wind.

I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much 
less

expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the
ease
of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi 
grids,

MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I
have
built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can 
be

adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2007-01-02 Thread Marketing
Hello Tim,

When purchasing the grids the next time, select the HDGD58-29 antennas.
These come with a new L-Bracket that attaches to the reflector in 4
locations.  The L-Bracket is also tapped for easy installation.  This can be
seen on page 2 of the spec sheet:

http://pacwireless.com/products/GD58_Data_Sheet.pdf

If needed, these new L-Brackets will accommodate a 4 U-Bolt (U-Bolts not
provided).

Drop me your address and we can send you a sample of the L-bracket.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Regards,
Ben Moore
Sales Manager
Pacific Wireless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:48 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Mac,
Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have 4

in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the wind. 
I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
 roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
 expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
 ease
 of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
 unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Mark,

  I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
 MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
 have
 built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
 antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
 dual
 polarity ext's.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
 GHz

 antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
 with
 a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

 1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

 2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

 What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

 Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
 adjusted.  Experience?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-31 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
My experience as well.The mount is wayyy to flimsy.

Equinox has some much heavier duty mounts which I hope to get my hands on in
a week or two.   They would fix that flimsy thing right up and make it quite
solid.

I have seen an example of one that wasn't for the grids, and they are
incredibly solid.



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neofast.net - fast internet for North East Oregon and South East Washington
email me at mark at neofast dot net
541-969-8200
Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net

- Original Message - 
From: Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Mac,
 Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have
4
 in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the
wind.
 I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.
 Tim Kerns
 CV-Access, Inc.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
  roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much
less
  expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the
  ease
  of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
  unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.
 
  Mac Dearman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  Are we preferring their grids to dishes?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
 
  Mark,
 
   I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi
grids,
  MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I
  have
  built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
  antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
  dual
  polarity ext's.
 
  Mac Dearman
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion
 
  I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about
5
  GHz
 
  antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
  with
  a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:
 
  1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.
 
  2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.
 
  What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...
 
  Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can
be
  adjusted.  Experience?
 
  Mark Nash
  Network Engineer
  UnwiredOnline.Net
  350 Holly Street
  Junction City, OR 97448
  http://www.uwol.net
  541-998-
  541-998-5599 fax
 
 
 
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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-31 Thread chris cooper
 

Can you share the method you use to link them up so quickly over such a
distance?
 
Thanks
Chris





I have aligned 5.8ghz links up to 73 miles (and even a test link at 137
miles) within 5 minutes start to finish. Is it possible you have another
problem?





 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-31 Thread Travis Johnson

Hi,

We use either a GPS at each side, or just bearing coordinates and a 
compass. I have aligned several links at 20+ miles only doing one side 
and then going to the other side and having a perfect signal. :)


And actually the longer the distance the easier it becomes... most 
5.8ghz dishes have around a 4 degree beamwidth... which means at 30 
miles is a much broader area than at 5 miles, thus easier to get inside 
that beam.


We aligned a 137 mile link (just for testing) within 10 minutes. ;)

Travis
Microserv

chris cooper wrote:
 


Can you share the method you use to link them up so quickly over such a
distance?
 
Thanks

Chris





I have aligned 5.8ghz links up to 73 miles (and even a test link at 137
miles) within 5 minutes start to finish. Is it possible you have another
problem?





 
  

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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Travis Johnson
The PacWireless dishes, panels and grids (depending on the gain you 
need, mounting, etc.) all work well. Also, you don't need to adjust the 
power settings in the MT... just leave it default, it works better.


Travis
Microserv

Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 
5 GHz antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik 
backhaul with a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:


1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can 
be adjusted.  Experience?


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mac Dearman
Mark,

  I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I have
built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5 GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul with 
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be 
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I have
built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango 
dual

polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5 
GHz


antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul 
with

a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mac Dearman
I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the ease
of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Mark,

  I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
 MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I have
 built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
 antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango 
 dual
 polarity ext's.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5 
 GHz

 antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul 
 with
 a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

 1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

 2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

 What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

 Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
 adjusted.  Experience?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Thanks Mac and Travis... This does sound like a no-brainer.  How about a 
12-mile link with 5.3 or 5.8?


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
ease

of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
have

built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
You can use 5.3 with 28db dishes and your tx set to 3 - 4 db power, that
would give you a expected rsss of -75, good if the area is clean of noise.

Or do 5.8 full power and expect a -63 using cm9 cards

Gino A. Villarini
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tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Thanks Mac and Travis... This does sound like a no-brainer.  How about a 
12-mile link with 5.3 or 5.8?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
 roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
 expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
 ease
 of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
 unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Mark,

  I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
 MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
 have
 built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
 antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
 dual
 polarity ext's.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
 GHz

 antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
 with
 a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

 1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

 2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

 What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

 Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
 adjusted.  Experience?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mac Dearman
I have several 18  20 mile links using the MT RB532/SR5 w/Pacwireless Dish
on one side and a 26dbi (was out of 29dbi) with complete success

Mac Dearman

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 3:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Thanks Mac and Travis... This does sound like a no-brainer.  How about a 
12-mile link with 5.3 or 5.8?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
 roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
 expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
 ease
 of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
 unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


 Mark,

  I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
 MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
 have
 built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
 antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
 dual
 polarity ext's.

 Mac Dearman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
 Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

 I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
 GHz

 antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
 with
 a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

 1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

 2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

 What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

 Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
 adjusted.  Experience?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists

I'm assuming this is 5.8, not 5.3, right?

Mark Nash
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I have several 18  20 mile links using the MT RB532/SR5 w/Pacwireless Dish
on one side and a 26dbi (was out of 29dbi) with complete success

Mac Dearman

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Thanks Mac and Travis... This does sound like a no-brainer.  How about a
12-mile link with 5.3 or 5.8?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
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Junction City, OR 97448
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541-998-5599 fax
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I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much 
less

expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the
ease
of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
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Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi 
grids,

MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I
have
built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can 
be

adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark McElvy
I have a 13 mi like using MT / CM-9' and 32db dishes, got them from
DoubleRadius. I am not sure of the brand.

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
GHz 
antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with 
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can
be 
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread George Rogato
Nice thing about the wire grids from pac, you can just buy new 5 gig 
feedhorns.


I'm sure there are plenty of grids hanging around.

George

Mac Dearman wrote:

I have several 18  20 mile links using the MT RB532/SR5 w/Pacwireless Dish
on one side and a 26dbi (was out of 29dbi) with complete success

Mac Dearman

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Thanks Mac and Travis... This does sound like a no-brainer.  How about a 
12-mile link with 5.3 or 5.8?


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
ease

of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

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Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
have

built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Tim Kerns

Mac,
Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have 4 
in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the wind. 
I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less
expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
ease

of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

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Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
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From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
have

built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5
GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Scott Reed
Is it the mount or the grid itself.  I haven't noticed it with the 
mount, but I know moving the wire grids around they will deflect.  Get a 
couple of the die-cast ones if you don't have any and see if they are 
better.


Tim Kerns wrote:

Mac,
Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I 
have 4 in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot 
in the wind. I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower 
or a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much 
less
expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as 
the ease

of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi 
grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. 
I have

built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry 
about 5

GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik 
can be

adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Tim Kerns
The die cast would be stronger... the issue is the mount only makes contact 
at the 3 screws to the grid, this allows the grid to flex and move in the 
wind. On a 2.4 feed horn the square tube has a U shape clamp that ties the 
grid and feed horn to the mount making it stronger. I spoke to support @ 
PacWireless over 18 months ago, I was told they were looking at the mount, 
but never heard if it was redesigned. I might add that using the grid in the 
horizontal position, it does not flex as much.


Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


Is it the mount or the grid itself.  I haven't noticed it with the mount, 
but I know moving the wire grids around they will deflect.  Get a couple 
of the die-cast ones if you don't have any and see if they are better.


Tim Kerns wrote:

Mac,
Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I 
have 4 in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in 
the wind. I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves.

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion


I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or 
a
roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much 
less
expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the 
ease

of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer
unless you have to have the extra db that comes with a dish.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

Are we preferring their grids to dishes?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax
- Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion



Mark,

 I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi 
grids,
MT  CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I 
have

built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their
antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango
dual
polarity ext's.

Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 
5

GHz

antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul
with
a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can 
be

adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax



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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
1. Does anyone have any experience with the XtremeWave MPR Series from 
PCTEL/MaxRad?

2. Can anyone comapre the PacWireless offerings to the XtremeWave MPR Series? 
I  suspect the MPR's are more expensive/

3. Some of the MPR's have side lobes that make alignment challenging. In this 
case we are talking about the 24 5.8 GHz model.Does anyone have an tips or 
ideas on how to align 24 dishes on 70-100 foot towers. To be honest our 
installer seems to be having issues getting it right. I actually think we'll 
get it next time. There are 3 cases:
side lobe to side lobe
main lobe to side lobe
main lobe to main lobe

We started out with side lobe to side lobe. In the second attempt we briefly 
saw  what I believe was main lobe to main lobe, but person to person 
communication problems forced us to settle for main lobe to side lobe, which 
was 5 dB more RSSI and not the 10 dB we had seen or hoped for.

Best,

leb


At 11:11 AM -0800 12/30/06, Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5 GHz 
antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul with a 
CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be 
adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax


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Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Travis Johnson




Hi,

Having personally aligned many, many 2ft and 3ft dishes at 5.3ghz -
5.8ghz, I can say that I have never actually found a "side lobe" with
any of our links. The signal starts low and goes up as we find center,
and then slowly drops down on the other side. The only links I have
ever actually seen (and incorrectly aligned to) a side lobe was with
38ghz. Are you sure you are seeing a side lobe?

I have aligned 5.8ghz links up to 73 miles (and even a test link at 137
miles) within 5 minutes start to finish. Is it possible you have
another problem?

Travis
Microserv

Lawrence E. Bakst wrote:

  1. Does anyone have any experience with the XtremeWave MPR Series from PCTEL/MaxRad?

2. Can anyone comapre the PacWireless offerings to the XtremeWave MPR Series? I  suspect the MPR's are more expensive/

3. Some of the MPR's have side lobes that make alignment challenging. In this case we are talking about the 24" 5.8 GHz model.Does anyone have an tips or ideas on how to align 24" dishes on 70-100 foot towers. To be honest our installer seems to be having issues getting it right. I actually think we'll get it next time. There are 3 cases:
side lobe to side lobe
main lobe to side lobe
main lobe to main lobe

We started out with side lobe to side lobe. In the second attempt we briefly saw  what I believe was main lobe to main lobe, but person to person communication problems forced us to settle for main lobe to side lobe, which was 5 dB more RSSI and not the 10 dB we had seen or hoped for.

Best,

leb


At 11:11 AM -0800 12/30/06, Mark Nash - Lists wrote:
  
  
I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5 GHz antennas and what to choose.  Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul with a CM9.  Currently, I've got two applications:

1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over.

2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

What antennas have you used to accomplish links such as these...

Also, kI have heard that the output power of the CM9 in a MikroTik can be adjusted.  Experience?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax


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