Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-24 Thread Steve Barnes
You know I have a faster option.  Buy a USB Ethernet port for a laptop that you 
assign a static and switch back and forth cable wise.  I have a desktop PC that 
actually has 3 Ethernet cards one with a Static for our local network, 1 with a 
static ip for programming UBNT and Tranzeos in bridge mode, and 1 with a 
dynamic ip for cpe's that hand out dhcp.  All we do is switch the cable that 
plugs into the POE. Takes 2 seconds to switch between dhcp and static.

I use NET Profiles for changing the static from one range to another.

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On Behalf Of Mike
 Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:41 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
 I have always loved the raw beauty of a utility grade batch file.
 
 It would be easy for anyone to use notepad to change the IP addresses and
 use your batch idea.  10 options from a batch menu; bravo!
 
 Friendly Regards,
 
 Mike
 
 
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 On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:27 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
 http://iam8up.com/ipconfiger/
 
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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
  I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?
 
  
 
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
 
 
  Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.
 
  On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
 
  Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:
 
 
 
 
 http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/prod
 docs/en-
 us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true
 
 
 
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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
  On Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM
 
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
 
 
  I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course,
  having a switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a
  registry
 entry
  for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?
 
  On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
 
  Justin,
  I would think ...
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-21 Thread Mike
I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?

  _  

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 

Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.

On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true

 

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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM


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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 

I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere? 



On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:

Justin,
I would think ...






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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-21 Thread Josh Luthman
http://iam8up.com/ipconfiger/

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On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
 I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?

 

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7



 Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.

 On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:



 http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true



 Mike Gilchrist

 Disruptive Technologist

 Advanced Wireless Express

 P.O. Box 255

 Toledo, IA   52342

 Mike's Weekly Column

 239.770.6203

 m...@aweiowa.com



 

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM

 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7



 I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
 switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
 for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?

 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:

 Justin,
 I would think ...


 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-21 Thread Mike
I have always loved the raw beauty of a utility grade batch file. 

It would be easy for anyone to use notepad to change the IP addresses and
use your batch idea.  10 options from a batch menu; bravo!

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 12:27 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

http://iam8up.com/ipconfiger/

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373



On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
 I run into the same thing Josh.  What does your batch look like?

 

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7



 Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.

 On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:




http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true



 Mike Gilchrist

 Disruptive Technologist

 Advanced Wireless Express

 P.O. Box 255

 Toledo, IA   52342

 Mike's Weekly Column

 239.770.6203

 m...@aweiowa.com



 

 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM

 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7



 I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
 switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry
entry
 for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?

 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:

 Justin,
 I would think ...





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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Dueck




LOL. if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into
increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot
up. I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything
that easily.

Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once
they booted up the radio.

Mark

On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:

  Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
   I know a good majority of you deal with
the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP
server. Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting? Very annoying
waiting on windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.
Sure a static IP shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.
Looking for a hack to shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to
something sane.
  
Ideas?
-- 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Justin Wilson
I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching
devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when
you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on
DHCP than to drop the config file on it.
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From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing
it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up.  I tried
looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily.

Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they
booted up the radio.

Mark

On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
  Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with the
 annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server.
 Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting on
 windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a static IP
 shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to
 shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.
  
 Ideas?
 -- 
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
  http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News
  http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter
 Wisp Consulting ­ Tower Climbing ­ Network Support
  
   
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Philip Dorr
Put a static IP on the computer and access the Mikroik devices via MAC

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
    I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching
 devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when
 you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on
 DHCP than to drop the config file on it.
 --
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 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News
 http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter
 Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support



 
 From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing
 it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up.  I tried
 looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily.

 Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they
 booted up the radio.

 Mark

 On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:

 Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with
 the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server.
  Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting on
 windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a static IP
 shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to
 shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.

 Ideas?
 --
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News
  http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Barnes
Look for a program called Net Profile Switch.  Helps you go from static to 
dynamic in seconds.

Steve Barnes
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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Philip Dorr
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 1:08 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

Put a static IP on the computer and access the Mikroik devices via MAC

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
    I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and 
 switching devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  
 Pretty annoying when you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes 
 longer for me to wait on DHCP than to drop the config file on it.
 --
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News
 http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – 
 Tower Climbing – Network Support



 
 From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into 
 increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot 
 up.  I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that 
 easily.

 Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer 
 once they booted up the radio.

 Mark

 On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:

 Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal 
 with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP 
 server.
  Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting 
 on windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a 
 static IP shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking 
 for a hack to shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.

 Ideas?
 --
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News
  http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting – 
 Tower Climbing – Network Support






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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread RickG
Disable the ethernet port until its configured, then re-enable it.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:

 I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching
 devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when
 you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on
 DHCP than to drop the config file on it.

 --
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News
 http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter
 Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support



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 *From: *Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
 *Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Date: *Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
 *To: *wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7


 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into
 increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up.  I
 tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily.

 Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once
 they booted up the radio.

 Mark

 On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:

 Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with
 the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server.
  Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting on
 windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a static IP
 shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to
 shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.


 Ideas?
 --
 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net

 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News

  http://www.twitter.com/j2sw – Follow me on Twitter
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Justin Wilson
Upgrading firmware and other such things can be quite unreliable over
mac winbox. It¹s just not Mikrotik though. Have other vendors I have to wait
until DHCP times out.   As I mentioned in the original post a static IP is
an option, but still annoying.   If there is a way to shorten the DHCP
timeout that is the end goal. My mac times out on DHCP within 10-15 seconds.

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From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:08:28 -0500
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

Put a static IP on the computer and access the Mikroik devices via MAC On
Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:     I
just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching 
devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when
 you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on
 DHCP than to drop the config file on it.  --  Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net  http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News 
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Climbing ­ Network Support   From:
Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz  Reply-To: WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org  Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600  To:
wireless@wispa.org  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 
 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into
increasing  it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up.
 I tried  looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that
easily.   Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the
computer once they  booted up the radio.   Mark   On 08/20/2010 09:42
AM, Justin Wilson wrote:   Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good
majority of you deal with  the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout
when there is no DHCP server.   Anyone found a fix for this? Registry
setting?  Very annoying waiting on  windows to timeout DHCP when you know
it will not get one.  Sure a static IP  shortens this time, but can be a
pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to  shorten the windows DHCP timeout
down to something sane.   Ideas?  --  Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Scott Reed
That doesn't allow me to use the DHCP function after I get the device 
configured.  I think Justin and I are looking for the same thing.  I 
want to leave the laptop on DHCP and have it time out in 10 seconds 
instead of minutes.  If the device isn't ready until 15 seconds, it is 
still faster to do an ipconfig.renew than to have had to wait for the 
time out.

Philip Dorr wrote:
 Put a static IP on the computer and access the Mikroik devices via MAC
 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:I 
 just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching devices 
 and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when you have 
 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on DHCP than 
 to drop the config file on it. -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net 
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 on Twitter Wisp Consulting – Tower Climbing – Network Support 
  From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz 
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 
 10:39:25 -0600 To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP 
 timeout XP/WIn7 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to 
 look into increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to 
 boot up.  I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything 
 that easily. Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the 
 computer once they booted up the radio. Mark On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, 
 Justin Wilson wrote: Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good 
 majority of you deal with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout 
 when there is no DHCP server.  Anyone found a fix for this? Registry 
 setting?  Very annoying waiting on windows to timeout DHCP when you know it 
 will not get one.  Sure a static IP shortens this time, but can be a pain in 
 itself.  Looking for a hack to shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to 
 something sane. Ideas? -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Dueck
Title: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7




I've been running openSuse on my laptop for 2 years now. Very simple
NIC config straight from command line. And if you have plugged and
unplugged your cable a few times, the Network manager stops trying to
get an IP address. All I do is: up arrow; Enter; and my nic is
configured with the same IP every time.

command:
ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.5 netmask 255.255.255.0

You're supposed to be able to do that from windows too, but I never got
it working.

On 08/20/2010 10:50 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:

  
   I just get sick of configuring units,
such as mikrotik, and switching devices and then having to wait until
DHCP times out. Pretty annoying when you have 50 Mikrotik boards to
configure. Takes longer for me to wait on DHCP than to drop the config
file on it.
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  From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
  
LOL. if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into
increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot
up. I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything
that easily.
  
Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once
they booted up the radio.
  
Mark
  
On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: 
  
   Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a
good majority of you deal with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to
timeout when there is no DHCP server. Anyone found a fix for this?
Registry setting? Very annoying waiting on windows to timeout DHCP
when you know it will not get one. Sure a static IP shortens this
time, but can be a pain in itself. Looking for a hack to shorten the
windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.

Ideas?
-- 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Scott Reed
Except a bunch of equipment we configure only has Windows-based 
configuration programs. And I have never had great success with WINE, etc.


Mark Dueck wrote:
I've been running openSuse on my laptop for 2 years now.  Very simple 
NIC config straight from command line.  And if you have plugged and 
unplugged your cable a few times, the Network manager stops trying to 
get an IP address.  All I do is: up arrow; Enter; and my nic is 
configured with the same IP every time.


command:
ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.5 netmask 255.255.255.0

You're supposed to be able to do that from windows too, but I never 
got it working.


On 08/20/2010 10:50 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
   I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and 
switching devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out. 
 Pretty annoying when you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure. 
 Takes longer for me to wait on DHCP than to drop the config file on it.

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*From: *Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
*Reply-To: *WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
*Date: *Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
*To: *wireless@wispa.org
*Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into 
increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot 
up.  I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything 
that easily.


Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer 
once they booted up the radio.


Mark

On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:

Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you
deal with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when
there is no DHCP server.  Anyone found a fix for this? Registry
setting?  Very annoying waiting on windows to timeout DHCP when
you know it will not get one.  Sure a static IP shortens this
time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to shorten
the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.
 
Ideas?
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Greg Ihnen
I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about but I always set my DHCP 
server to hand out DHCP for 5 minutes. That way if I want to reconfigure the 
network I can make a change and in a few minutes everything is switched over. 
IT's also handy to see what clients are currently online, I just take a peek at 
who's got a DHCP lease.

Greg

On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching 
 devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when 
 you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on 
 DHCP than to drop the config file on it.
 -- 
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 http://www.mtin.net/blog – xISP News
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 From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing 
 it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up.  I tried 
 looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily.
 
 Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they 
 booted up the radio.
 
 Mark
 
 On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: 
 Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with 
 the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server. 
  Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting on 
 windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a static IP 
 shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to 
 shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.
  
 Ideas?
 -- 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Justin Wilson
All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device
runnign a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at
a tower site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP
times out?  Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots
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From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:45:51 -0430
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about but I always set my DHCP
server to hand out DHCP for 5 minutes. That way if I want to reconfigure the
network I can make a change and in a few minutes everything is switched
over. IT's also handy to see what clients are currently online, I just take
a peek at who's got a DHCP lease.

Greg

On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

 I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching
 devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.  Pretty annoying when
 you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes longer for me to wait on DHCP
 than to drop the config file on it.
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 From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz x-msg://29/m...@netking.bz 
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 x-msg://29/wireless@wispa.org 
 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
 To: wireless@wispa.org x-msg://29/wireless@wispa.org 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
 LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing
 it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up.  I tried looking
 into it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily.
 
 Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they
 booted up the radio.
 
 Mark
 
 On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
  Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with
 the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server.
 Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting on
 windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a static IP
 shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking for a hack to
 shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.
  
 Ideas?
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Isn't Windows IPCONFIG with its options fast and flexible enough? 
. . . j o n a t h a n 


From: Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net 
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 1:37:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 

All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device runnign a 
DHCP server does you no good. How many times has everyone been at a tower site 
wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP times out? Then 
if you have to reboot the device or something. 3 reboots and you have waster 
5-10 minutes waiting on windows. 
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From: Greg Ihnen  os10ru...@gmail.com  
Reply-To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org  
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:45:51 -0430 
To: WISPA General List  wireless@wispa.org  
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 

I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about but I always set my DHCP 
server to hand out DHCP for 5 minutes. That way if I want to reconfigure the 
network I can make a change and in a few minutes everything is switched over. 
IT's also handy to see what clients are currently online, I just take a peek at 
who's got a DHCP lease. 

Greg 

On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: 



I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and switching devices 
and then having to wait until DHCP times out. Pretty annoying when you have 50 
Mikrotik boards to configure. Takes longer for me to wait on DHCP than to drop 
the config file on it. 
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600 
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 

LOL. if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into increasing it 
to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot up. I tried looking into 
it a while ago, but did not find anything that easily. 

Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer once they 
booted up the radio. 

Mark 

On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote: 


Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal with the 
annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP server. Anyone 
found a fix for this? Registry setting? Very annoying waiting on windows to 
timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one. Sure a static IP shortens this 
time, but can be a pain in itself. Looking for a hack to shorten the windows 
DHCP timeout down to something sane. 

Ideas? 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread John Valenti
Justin,
I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer 
suggestions. Can you elaborate?

(I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But 
sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never bothered 
setting them up.) 

On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device runnign 
 a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at a tower 
 site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP times 
 out?  Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots and you 
 have waster 5-10 minutes waiting on windows.
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Josh Luthman
I use a netsh batch script to set a static ip (options 1 to 8) or dhcp
(option 9).  If you want it let me know.

Works on XP and 7 for sure.  Nice how on 7 the IP change is instant.

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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:44 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
 Justin,
 I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer 
 suggestions. Can you elaborate?

 (I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But 
 sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never 
 bothered setting them up.)

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

    All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device 
 runnign a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at 
 a tower site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP 
 times out?  Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots 
 and you have waster 5-10 minutes waiting on windows.
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Justin Wilson
The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server
available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.
How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed
this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say ³hey there is no
DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP².  What I am looking for is a way to
tell Windows don¹t wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait
20 seconds or whatever.

Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning that
IP takes time to do and undo.

The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes¹s suggest for a program
that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew of a
registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead of
DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.

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From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:44:34 -0400
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

Justin,
I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer
suggestions. Can you elaborate?

(I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But
sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never
bothered setting them up.)

On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device runnign
a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at a tower
site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP times out?
Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots and you have
waster 5-10 minutes waiting on windows.
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Data Technology
  Justin,
I know exactly why you are asking about this.  I have been aggravated by 
this myself.  It's never a issue unless you are in a hurry and then it's 
like it never times out.  You would think there would be a registry 
setting but I have googled this and lots of people ask about this but no 
one has the answer.

I have used a program in the past called netswitcher.  This lets you 
have preconfigured network setting profiles and pick which one to use.  
You could have one that setup for dhcp or one that assigns static 
configurations and then you just select the profile and boom, it is 
changed.  You don't have to reboot, well you do for w98 but not xp.  
This even configures wireless cards.

LaRoy McCann
Data Technology

On 8/20/2010 2:44 PM, John Valenti wrote:
 Justin,
 I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer 
 suggestions. Can you elaborate?

 (I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But 
 sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never 
 bothered setting them up.)

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

 All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device 
 runnign a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at 
 a tower site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP 
 times out?  Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots 
 and you have waster 5-10 minutes waiting on windows.
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Josh Luthman
I know mine doesn't take nearly 1.5 minutes or at least it doesn't
take that long before I can get to Winbox.  I think it waits about 30s
and then sets a 169.254.x.x.  While it is searching for a DHCP lease,
I can look at Winbox which will fail when it sets that 169.254.x.x.

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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
    The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server
 available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.
  How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed
 this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say “hey there is no
 DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP”.  What I am looking for is a way to
 tell Windows don’t wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait
 20 seconds or whatever.

 Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning that
 IP takes time to do and undo.

 The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes’s suggest for a program
 that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew of a
 registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead of
 DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.

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 From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:44:34 -0400
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 Justin,
 I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer
 suggestions. Can you elaborate?

 (I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But
 sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never
 bothered setting them up.)

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

    All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device
 runnign a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at
 a tower site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP
 times out?  Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots
 and you have waster 5-10 minutes waiting on windows.
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Jeromie Reeves
When I used Windows, a program called tftpd32 was a life saver. Does
tftp (for router flashing) does syslog (for log testing) and dhcp (to
your self!) so you can avoid having to wait. a quick cmd --
ipconfig /release cr ipconfig /renew and you have what ever IP you
need. Once I went full Gentoo, there are no hassles. VBox/VMWare runs
XP for the very very rare times I need it (namely for cell phone
programming these days)

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 I know mine doesn't take nearly 1.5 minutes or at least it doesn't
 take that long before I can get to Winbox.  I think it waits about 30s
 and then sets a 169.254.x.x.  While it is searching for a DHCP lease,
 I can look at Winbox which will fail when it sets that 169.254.x.x.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
    The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server
 available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.
  How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed
 this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say “hey there is no
 DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP”.  What I am looking for is a way to
 tell Windows don’t wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait
 20 seconds or whatever.

 Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning that
 IP takes time to do and undo.

 The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes’s suggest for a program
 that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew of a
 registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead of
 DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.

 Justin
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 From: John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:44:34 -0400
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 Justin,
 I don't quite understand what you are trying to do, so I can't offer
 suggestions. Can you elaborate?

 (I use a Mac generally, and have that configured with several profiles. But
 sometimes I use Windows, I know that supports profiles but I've never
 bothered setting them up.)

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

    All fine and dandy but if you are plugged into a standalone device
 runnign a DHCP server does you no good.  How many times has everyone been at
 a tower site wanting to go home only to have to wait 1-2 minutes until DHCP
 times out?  Then if you have to reboot the device or something.  3 reboots
 and you have waster 5-10 minutes waiting on windows.
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread John Valenti
Justin,
I would think you would want to have it setup to just switch quickly to a 
static address via profile or script or something.

But perhaps another solution would be to use a switch or hub? If your windows 
computer is plugged into that (rather than directly into a radio), it will keep 
ethernet carrier and not want to look for a new address every time you switched 
radios. So it would just keep using the autoassigned one. (I think)

I don't use Mikrotik much, I vaguely remember it uses a program that manages 
radios without using IP addressing? Perhaps that is why your auto assigned 169. 
address is of any value. Almost all the radios I've used (Trango, Tranzeo, 
StarOS) you have to use a specific subnet (not auto assigned) to talk to it. So 
I started out with a system that let me rapidly switch between a few statics 
and dhcp.

Hope that helps. 

On Aug 20, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server 
 available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.  
 How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed 
 this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say “hey there is no 
 DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP”.  What I am looking for is a way to 
 tell Windows don’t wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait 20 
 seconds or whatever.
 
 Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning that 
 IP takes time to do and undo. 
 
 The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes’s suggest for a program 
 that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew of a 
 registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead of 
 DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.




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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Josh Luthman
I hit start, down, 1-8, enter and I'm ready to go in 5 seconds.

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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:
 Justin,
 I would think you would want to have it setup to just switch quickly to a 
 static address via profile or script or something.

 But perhaps another solution would be to use a switch or hub? If your windows 
 computer is plugged into that (rather than directly into a radio), it will 
 keep ethernet carrier and not want to look for a new address every time you 
 switched radios. So it would just keep using the autoassigned one. (I think)

 I don't use Mikrotik much, I vaguely remember it uses a program that manages 
 radios without using IP addressing? Perhaps that is why your auto assigned 
 169. address is of any value. Almost all the radios I've used (Trango, 
 Tranzeo, StarOS) you have to use a specific subnet (not auto assigned) to 
 talk to it. So I started out with a system that let me rapidly switch between 
 a few statics and dhcp.

 Hope that helps.

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

    The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server 
 available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.  
 How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed 
 this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say “hey there is no 
 DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP”.  What I am looking for is a way to 
 tell Windows don’t wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait 
 20 seconds or whatever.

     Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning that 
 IP takes time to do and undo.

     The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes’s suggest for a program 
 that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew of a 
 registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead of 
 DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.



 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread RickG
I used to use net profile but grew tired of the time it takes for windoze to
switch. I can just type it in faster. Another thing to do is just leave the
ethernet port unplugged until its configured. Once programmed it wont wait
for dhcp.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote:

 Look for a program called Net Profile Switch.  Helps you go from static to
 dynamic in seconds.

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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 Put a static IP on the computer and access the Mikroik devices via MAC

 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Justin Wilson li...@mtin.net wrote:
 I just get sick of configuring units, such as mikrotik, and
  switching devices and then having to wait until DHCP times out.
  Pretty annoying when you have 50 Mikrotik boards to configure.  Takes
  longer for me to wait on DHCP than to drop the config file on it.
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  From: Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz
  Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:25 -0600
  To: wireless@wispa.org
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7
 
  LOL.   if you have a Deliberant radio you might want to look into
  increasing it to 5 minutes because that's how long they take to boot
  up.  I tried looking into it a while ago, but did not find anything that
 easily.
 
  Had to tell my customers to wait 5 minutes to startup the computer
  once they booted up the radio.
 
  Mark
 
  On 08/20/2010 09:42 AM, Justin Wilson wrote:
 
  Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7 I know a good majority of you deal
  with the annoyance of waiting on Windows to timeout when there is no DHCP
 server.
   Anyone found a fix for this? Registry setting?  Very annoying waiting
  on windows to timeout DHCP when you know it will not get one.  Sure a
  static IP shortens this time, but can be a pain in itself.  Looking
  for a hack to shorten the windows DHCP timeout down to something sane.
 
  Ideas?
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread RickG
I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:

 Justin,
 I would think you would want to have it setup to just switch quickly to a
 static address via profile or script or something.

 But perhaps another solution would be to use a switch or hub? If your
 windows computer is plugged into that (rather than directly into a radio),
 it will keep ethernet carrier and not want to look for a new address every
 time you switched radios. So it would just keep using the autoassigned one.
 (I think)

 I don't use Mikrotik much, I vaguely remember it uses a program that
 manages radios without using IP addressing? Perhaps that is why your auto
 assigned 169. address is of any value. Almost all the radios I've used
 (Trango, Tranzeo, StarOS) you have to use a specific subnet (not auto
 assigned) to talk to it. So I started out with a system that let me rapidly
 switch between a few statics and dhcp.

 Hope that helps.

 On Aug 20, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

 The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server
 available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.
  How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed
 this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say “hey there is no
 DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP”.  What I am looking for is a way to
 tell Windows don’t wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait
 20 seconds or whatever.
 
  Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning
 that IP takes time to do and undo.
 
  The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes’s suggest for a
 program that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew
 of a registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead
 of DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.




 
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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Mike
Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-
us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 9:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

 

I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere? 

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:

Justin,
I would think you would want to have it setup to just switch quickly to a
static address via profile or script or something.

But perhaps another solution would be to use a switch or hub? If your
windows computer is plugged into that (rather than directly into a radio),
it will keep ethernet carrier and not want to look for a new address every
time you switched radios. So it would just keep using the autoassigned one.
(I think)

I don't use Mikrotik much, I vaguely remember it uses a program that manages
radios without using IP addressing? Perhaps that is why your auto assigned
169. address is of any value. Almost all the radios I've used (Trango,
Tranzeo, StarOS) you have to use a specific subnet (not auto assigned) to
talk to it. So I started out with a system that let me rapidly switch
between a few statics and dhcp.

Hope that helps.


On Aug 20, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:

The whole thing is windows takes so long if there is no DHCP server
available.  For example, plug into a fresh Mikrotik with no configuration.
How long does Windows take to time out if it is set to DHCP?  I have timed
this at 1.5 minutes.  My mac only takes 17 seconds to say hey there is no
DHCP server I will auto assign a 169 IP.  What I am looking for is a way to
tell Windows don't wait 1.5 minutes before you assign a 169 IP.  Only wait
20 seconds or whatever.

 Sure you can assign a static IP and lessen this time, but assigning
that IP takes time to do and undo.

 The best solution I have seen so far is Barnes's suggest for a program
that lets you change networking profiles.  I was hoping someone knew of a
registry key you could edit.  Something like DHCP_TIMEOUT=20s.  Instead of
DHCP_TIMEOUT=120s.






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Re: [WISPA] Changign DHCP timeout XP/WIn7

2010-08-20 Thread Josh Luthman
Keep in mind I have one to share if you want.

On Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:

 Try using a batch file and NETSH commands:



http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/netsh_dhcp_example.mspx?mfr=true



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Toledo, IA   52342

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239.770.6203

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Behalf Of *RickG
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I did that once with a bunch or tranzeos. Works good. of course, having a
switch up on a tower isnt practical. I'm sure there must be a registry entry
for the dhcp timeout on windoze somewhere?



On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM, John Valenti vale...@lir.msu.edu wrote:

Justin,
I would think ...




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