Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-28 Thread David E. Smith
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: > We are building an AP unit for the middle and we figured that BGP was > for the edge with several outlets where you would typically have a > larger server. Darn, I was actually thinking about using iBGP and private ASNs on a bunch of towers. More reliable than RIP, easier

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-24 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
e, all "servers" are in boxes in the air, on the roof, or otherwise. BGP needs to be in the regular AP version. - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:51 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-24 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network > We are building an AP unit for the middle and we figured that BGP was > for the edge with several outlets where you would typically have a > larger server. > > Lonnie > > On 8/23/06, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
We are building an AP unit for the middle and we figured that BGP was for the edge with several outlets where you would typically have a larger server. Lonnie On 8/23/06, David E. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: > We support RIP, OSPF and OLSR Mesh, with mesh being the

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread David E. Smith
Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: > We support RIP, OSPF and OLSR Mesh, with mesh being the one we like the > best. Verging horribly off-topic for this, but out of curiosity, why did you remove BGP support from V3? David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: htt

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
7;s, at least for now, are pretty easy for me to get. I could > easily justify another /24 to my upstream, but beyond that, it would > take some pretty convincing data for me to get more. But, once I get > to that size, I'll be looking at buying my own block(s). > > > - O

RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick
etty easy for me to get. I could > easily justify another /24 to my upstream, but beyond that, it would > take some pretty convincing data for me to get more. But, once I get > to that size, I'll be looking at buying my own block(s). > > > - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Jason Hensley
uch appreciated by me (and I'm sure others). For the record, Matt did respond earlier in the thread somewhere as well I do believe. - Original Message - From: "Lonnie Nunweiler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, Au

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
for me to get more. But, once I get to that size, I'll be looking at buying my own block(s). - Original Message ----- From: Mac Dearman To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network Jason, I had one

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Sam Tetherow
I use MT for my APs so the routing is not a problem. If you have a router at each tower location you can route to the tower and be bridged at each tower location. I looked briefly at Tranzeo for APs but after using MT I wouldn't want to give up the extra features: + True routing + BW contro

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Jason Hensley
an To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network Jason,      I had one of the largest bridged networks ever as I cover 15-18% of the State with wireless. I can tell you a few things about

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread lists
I will echo Mac's comments with just a couple of modifications. I also put 95% of my customers on private IP addresses, and that has worked wonderfully. I have a separate subnet for every access point, and this has done a great job of keeping problems isolated and making troubleshooting much

RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-23 Thread Mac Dearman
Jason,      I had one of the largest bridged networks ever as I cover 15-18% of the State with wireless. I can tell you a few things about bridging-vs-routing and I aint getting into that, but I can tell you that I don’t think you will want a totally static routed network either. That is

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread Sam Tetherow
al List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network In the end I feel routed is better because you grow, a bridged network will get loud (lots of overhead traffic). You manage the CPE in a routed network just as you do now. What maybe you see is the difference between true routes

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread John J. Thomas
07 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network > >In the end I feel routed is better because you grow, a bridged network >will get loud (lots of overhead traffic). > > > >You manage the CPE in a routed network just as you

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread David E. Smith
Jason Hensley wrote: > I'm really going to need to have a routed network. You're probably right there. Our legacy bridged network still causes the occasional weird problem, because of all the MACs flying around three counties. > My biggest question is, how do you manage your CPE remotely in a ro

RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread Mark McElvy
-729-9200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network   That is correct on the Tranzeo AP's, but, I'm considering replacing the

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread Jason Hensley
: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network In the end I feel routed is better because you grow, a bridged network will get loud (lots of overhead traffic).   You manage the CPE in a routed network just

RE: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread Mark McElvy
In the end I feel routed is better because you grow, a bridged network will get loud (lots of overhead traffic).   You manage the CPE in a routed network just as you do now. What maybe you see is the difference between true routes and NAT routes. With true routes there is a path to and fr

Re: [WISPA] Managing CPE in routed network

2006-08-22 Thread Sam Tetherow
In my network I assign a private IP to the CPE and a 'similar' IP to the customer. For instance if I assign 10.1.1.100 to the customer then I assigned 10.101.1.100 to the CPE. Easy to remember the CPE address given the customers IP. Each AP gets it's own class C. I then do 1 to 1 NAT at the