Hi Rick,
To restate my earlier point (hopefully with greater clarity):
No matter what you do, people will look at a page and (probably) either
say the type is too big or the type is too small. In either case
they can adjust it accordingly, except that those who want to make it
smaller (eg.
Jixor - Stephen I wrote:
Sorry, the point I'm making is why use 100 and 102, is there any
visible difference?
Normally not, and 100% is the intended size. The reason for the
slightly more than 100% for h5 is that whatever the size 102% is
calculated from the h5 should end up _as large as or
On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Dean Edridge wrote:
By giving users: body{font-size:100%;} you are doing the best you
can at your end, and It's up to them to ensure they have correctly
configured their browser to suit their eyesight or preferences.
I'd tend to agree with those that using the
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On 6/9/07 (09:08) Jens said:
I would like to point out that text in a web page is usually not there
merely for a design purpose but for communicating some information.
No arguments here. If the consensus amongst the visiting user-base is
that the information is lost or hard to access on account
On 5/9/07 (01:18) Felix said:
I believe I've already explained up thread that they do, in
_web_designers_as_a_group_ having a personal skew/bias/preference in
favor of things small generally, part of the nature of the kind of
detail-oriented people who
gravitate into web design.
You mentioned
On 2007/09/06 09:13 (GMT-0400) Timothy Swan apparently typed:
I'd tend to agree with those that using the browser defaults as the
base font size would be ideal. Unfortunately we're dealing with years
of legacy web pages where the vast majority of fonts have been sized
down already (in
Blimey, this turned into quite a thread. But then the font sizing thing
always evokes passionate reactions I guess.
I do admit the first time I read your initial post I cringed and
screamed AAARGGGHLXX! ;-)
Someone who prefers small text size will be able to read bigger text...
but may not
On 6/9/07 (16:41) Jens said:
I do admit the first time I read your initial post I cringed and
screamed AAARGGGHLXX! ;-)
Yeah, fair enough, and I knew that many would share your reaction. But
the question in the original post was one that I really had divided
opinions about and wanted to hear
On 6 Sep 2007, at 17:39, Rick Lecoat wrote:
The issue of whether an unchanged default setting, except when left as
it is by deliberate choice, should be considered a 'user
preference' in
the context of most people have their preferred size set to 16px has
not really been decided for me, but
On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
How do you know those sites aren't getting back button treatment,
or unanswered complaints?
I work on a site that gets over a million page views per month. We
set our base font size, using percentages, to be approximately 13
pixels. We had
On 6/9/07 (17:58) Tony said:
we're in a catch 22 as I see it.
if the browser manufacturers make the defaults smaller, then a lot of
web sites break. If you don't adjust the font size at all it looks
bigger than expected to *most* users - and if the client is looking
at their site
On Thu, September 6, 2007 2:13 pm, Timothy Swan wrote:
On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Dean Edridge wrote:
By giving users: body{font-size:100%;} you are doing the best you
can at your end, and It's up to them to ensure they have correctly
configured their browser to suit their eyesight or
On 2007/09/06 17:58 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed:
If you don't adjust the font size at all it looks
bigger than expected to *most* users
This is only a problem if you choose to regard it as a problem. Neither is what
users want and expect necessarily the same thing. Being
On 2007/09/06 13:08 (GMT-0400) Timothy Swan apparently typed:
If the text containers are elastic and resize as the text is resized,
this shouldn't be a major problem.
The comparison was made to most other sites. Most other sites are neither
standards compliant nor elastic.
You're arguing
On 6 Sep 2007, at 18:30, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2007/09/06 17:58 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed:
- and if the client is looking
at their site compared to everyone else they also expect it to look
similar, not have massive fonts.
You're the expert. Your clientele is a limited
Tony Crockford wrote:
I'm still looking for a best practice solution to reducing font size
to the *norm* and not causing problems when I do so.
have you any suggestions on that front?
in web design and the way the viewer can set font limits, i don't think
there is a *norm*. setting your
On 6 Sep 2007, at 20:32, dwain wrote:
Tony Crockford wrote:
I'm still looking for a best practice solution to reducing font
size to the *norm* and not causing problems when I do so.
have you any suggestions on that front?
in web design and the way the viewer can set font limits, i
Tony Crockford wrote:
I'm still looking for a best practice solution to reducing font size
to the *norm* and not causing problems when I do so.
The most cross-browser reliable method is to declare 'font-size: 100%'
as base, and size *down* _only_ on the text-carrying elements.
This approach
Tony Crockford wrote:
what are the downsides of this approach?
the down side is the user controls your font sizes. in ie i usually use
the medium setting then check the largest setting to make sure the
design doesn't break. there are some who set 12 as their minimum and
god knows what for a
On 2007/09/06 20:16 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed:
On 6 Sep 2007, at 18:30, Felix Miata wrote:
You're the expert. Your clientele is a limited universe you can try
to educate. You could offer it a look at some authoritative sites
that both exhibit respect and recommend
On 2007/09/06 20:42 (GMT+0100) Tony Crockford apparently typed:
I'm slightly hazy on the whole user set browser defaults thing,
there seem to be a number of options including application
preferences and user stylesheets. and a combination of minimum fonts,
ignore all fonts and
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