[WSG] Encoding odities

2008-07-10 Thread Barney Carroll
Hello all, I've got a problem with character set encoding I'd like to rectify. I use UTF-8 as a matter of convenience and ideology, and don't believe it should be that much of a problem. My editor (Notepad++) is set to create new files in UTF-8 without a byte order mark, but when I retrieve files

Re: [WSG] London meeting

2007-10-11 Thread Barney Carroll
Joseph Ortenzi wrote: Can I know why WSGLondon do not make use of the WSG list? I have started an informal discussion group for London and would really like to help support the more structured WSGL presentations with a monthly discussion group, and possibly some planning and organising

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Christie Mason wrote: I can't believe I'm even talking about rights and shopping in the same sentence. Are you implying that shopping is a luxury? As horrible as you may find it, shopping is actually necessary for human survival in a capitalist society. It's the only way we can acquire

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Michael MD wrote: Are you implying that shopping is a luxury? As horrible as you may find it, shopping is actually necessary for human survival in a capitalist society. It's the only way we can acquire goods. Target is not the only place where people can go shopping ... OK, so one website

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Christie Mason wrote: I think you'd better check your history books. Changes in culture occurred first, creating an environment for the laws to be created - for better or worse. Odd that you chose examples involving a king and a dictator, not the best examples of the body politic. Tell me

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-04 Thread Barney Carroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2000, Bruce Maguire's accessibility complaint against the Olympics.com website was upheld. Did this lead to a spate of frivolous, discriminatory lawsuits in Australia? Did it lead to any improvement in accessibility of commercial, government or hobby web

Re: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Public, and I work with a small team of specialists. As far as I see it, the public sector is fairly serious and strong transferable competencies are demanded from you. As such you tend to get less nonsense communication with clients, you're constantly developing a more honest expertise, and

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? No takers? I'll answer the question: Plone. You'll need Python (pretty rare on servers as a whole) as opposed to the far more widespread PHP to run the shebang, but I find

Re: [WSG] Popup 'box' on hover

2007-08-23 Thread Barney Carroll
Spirit Q.9 Gaming wrote: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/gallery_click Can you use this? Stu Nicholls has done a few :hover lightboxes: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/lightbox.html If you want to be really flash (without flash, naturally)... http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menu/image_magnifier2.html

Re: [WSG] Popup 'box' on hover

2007-08-23 Thread Barney Carroll
Spirit Q.9 Gaming wrote: That lightbox and the image will disappear when we move out the mouse though clicked, should use combo? What iStockPhoto does is a no-click interface where you just hover over things to expand them and off to make them disappear. iStock's thing uses javascript to

Re: [WSG] When is invalid CSS okay?

2007-08-22 Thread Barney Carroll
Rick, The key thing to consider is this: • Invalid *ML will force browsers into defective behaviour. If your markup isn't written according to the very clear spec, the browser has to make assumptions. Different browsers make different assumptions at different times – you are leaving yourself

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Breton Slivka wrote: I explicitly said that graphic design is *Not* about the visual, or aesthetic appearance. Graphic design is an integrally visual craft. I cannot conceive of it in any other medium, unless you're saying its real focus is your college lectures (it gets even better than

Re: [WSG] Javascript image rotator

2007-07-12 Thread Barney Carroll
swifr offers cute image modifying effects (including rotation) using Flash, and degrades gracefully. http://www.swfir.com/ However it can't do the other things you're asking for by itself. The problem is really the image rotating - everything else could be done with lightweight javascript

Re: [WSG] Who's A Front End Developer?

2007-07-05 Thread Barney Carroll
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Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity

2007-06-19 Thread Barney Carroll
Cameron Singe wrote: I read a book by Christian Heilmann on beginning javascript, I would rate him as a guru Definitely. FYI Lars, http://domscripting.com/ is Christian's hub site. Jeremy Keith should also be above most of these people as popular and populist (just under PPK, possibly) -

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

2007-06-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: But there's then little point in communicating this fact to a list about Web Stanbdards, as you are clearly advocating something which is in breach of said standards. Steady on, Nick. If he wasn't here you wouldn't be able to tell him this - it's exactly the right

Re: [WSG] Re: Use of Fieldsets other than in form?

2007-06-05 Thread Barney Carroll
Designer wrote: Nick Gleitzman wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: ...a deceased squirrel foetus Wow. What an image. N ___ I wondered if you kept one on hand, in your office, for purposes of validation? I use it mostly for accessibility tests. The fur gets a bit

Re: [WSG] Recommended screen size

2007-06-01 Thread Barney Carroll
For what it's worth, I often get irritated with 1024x768-mimum layouts, even though my screen is a wopping 1600x1200. There's obviously such a thing as incredibly long lines, but even in cases like the wonderful alistapart.com, I'm irritated that the screen should necessarily be so wide. I

Re: [WSG] OT on list

2007-05-29 Thread Barney Carroll
Nick Gleitzman wrote: Photoshop and JAWS: sorry, Marvin, but that's just OT for this list. Stuart Foulstone wrote: Assistive technology off topic??? It's worth making the point: Don't get intimidated by this - JAWS is a perfectly legitimate thing to discuss here. Regards, Barney

Re: [WSG] OT on list

2007-05-29 Thread Barney Carroll
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: Would you argue that a discussion of the use of Jaws with Microsoft Excel (which is, judging by the manufacturer's FAQs, one of its commonest uses) is related to Web Standards? Only if the .csv was downloaded off the cybercom. A statement in the root post would easily

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-25 Thread Barney Carroll
Stuart Foulstone wrote: Hi, The for attribute should NOT be used when the label tag encloses the label text. What are the dangers? Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Suggestions rquired on my web portfolio

2007-05-23 Thread Barney Carroll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: My name is Puneet, web designer based in Dubai. Recently I have revamped my website with tableless design and xhtml, keeping the web standards in mind. I would really appreciate, if you guys can take a look at : www.puneetsakhuja.com, and send me your

Re: [WSG] Anyone had success using Dragon Naturally Speaking to transcribe audio files?

2007-05-22 Thread Barney Carroll
Open Vision wrote: No, but that is interesting to hear. My son is severly dyslexic and is going to start college nxt fall. His counselor suggested just that program and told us it was the best out there. I've met several people who swear by Dragon as a dictation tool. A couple of contacts

Re: [WSG] Valid and well-formed

2007-04-27 Thread Barney Carroll
Aside from namespace issues, validation deals principally with well-formedness, as far as I'm aware. If someone really believes the W3C is of no concern to people focused on building well-formed documents, they should tell us what definition of well-formed they are using. Otherwise this

Re: [WSG] strong v's b , em v's i

2007-04-23 Thread Barney Carroll
Open Vision wrote: Let them keep putting them up. As long as we know what's right we can do a good job and it may keep the competition down! LOL That's a pretty closed vision! To be honest, the best thing about web standards is that they're not standard. It makes me employable. Regards,

Re: rel post, was: RE: [WSG] style sheets - best practices

2007-03-16 Thread Barney Carroll
Tim wrote: I reckon you are being cynical Barney :-) Consider colour blindness, 8% of adult males, you can allow a user to select a colour scheme. Consider screen size, alternative stylesheets can improve presentation of different devices. I use seven different linked stylesheets on

Re: [WSG] style sheets - best practices

2007-03-15 Thread Barney Carroll
Grant Novey wrote: Using the @import stylesheet rule is great if you only want your stylesheet rules to be picked up by most modern browsers. Netscape 4 and below and IE 4 and below do not support the @import rule. This allows you to target stylesheets to specific browser versions. Does that

Re: [WSG] style sheets - best practices

2007-03-15 Thread Barney Carroll
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Re: [WSG] doing things right

2007-03-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Shelley Purvis wrote: No, they should be marked up as: tdnbsp;/td Bzzzt - wrong answer -- the nbsp; is meaningless. Meaningless under certain definitions but completely harmless. Besides, an empty cell is already meaningless. Attack the very notion if you're truly concerned about a

Re: [WSG] doing things right

2007-03-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Hassan Schroeder wrote: Excuse me? In any DB (or programming language) I use, a null value is *not* equal or equivalent to a space character. Wo! Well said, Hassan. You're right, a string to replace null values is significant. I take back my earlier point - a character could be introduced

Re: [WSG] doing things right

2007-03-12 Thread Barney Carroll
David Dorward wrote: Barney Carroll wrote: Wo! Well said, Hassan. You're right, a string to replace null values is significant. I take back my earlier point - a character could be introduced with JS, I suppose. How is that any different? The resulting document is the same. If somebody's

Re: [WSG] doing things right

2007-03-12 Thread Barney Carroll
David Dorward wrote: Intranet? Where did this start being limited to an intranet? ... But HTML is not a presentation language, it describes structure / semantics. Internet, David. Honestly, HTML may be very nice indeed, but I'd strongly advise against it for general purpose data-handling.

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

2007-03-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Tables always get people dancing around the room, mostly drunk. The presentation seems unusual as does the term 'table' (possibly because there's only two values per row). But the most common instance of tables in print is the table of contents, which is exactly like this. Try arguing that

Re: [WSG] Talking about tabular data...

2007-03-07 Thread Barney Carroll
Rob Kirton wrote: Barney I don't see this as being a definition list. 39 does not define Chapter 1, it is an indicator of where to find chapter 1. It is arguably a table, as in table of contents. Of course it is all a bit of an odd case considering the web. Web pages aren't paper, and

Re: [WSG] Recommendations for Usability sub-contractor; SEC=UNCLASSIFIED

2007-03-01 Thread Barney Carroll
Mike Brown wrote: - we don't want to get into a debate as to which usability consultants are good or not, or even what makes a good usability consultant Sarah, usability standards conversations are a hot topic over at the evolt.org list. Regards, Barney

Re: [WSG] Javascript to check for Handheld Devices

2007-03-01 Thread Barney Carroll
Tim wrote: My meta tag base href were taken out of pages by ask.com the mobile version http://m.ask.com/ This allowed them to run my site by relative URLs on their server with fake paypal links en all. Jesus, that's horrible! Excuse my ignorance. It seems then, that all the best

Re: [WSG] Recommendations for Usability sub-contractor; SEC=UNCLASSIFIED

2007-03-01 Thread Barney Carroll
Tim wrote: What a statement! Are we hear for W3C standards or fiction? ANyone touting for work here should be fairly subject to at least W3C validation tests! Or else! What are the standards? I have to back this. In my mind this is exactly what this list is for. If people can't go to the

Re: [WSG] Recommendations for Usability sub-contractor; SEC=UNCLASSIFIED

2007-03-01 Thread Barney Carroll
Ian Stalvies wrote: Um ... as far as I know Hiser, as a rule, don't actually code sites - they try to focus purely on usability. Which I believe was Sarah's original request ... It's still an awful indicator. Although I've seen a lot of Australian firms selling accessibility, and awards

Re: [WSG] Use of Enter key to naviagte between form fields

2007-02-27 Thread Barney Carroll
Nick Roper wrote: Hi, A customer has requested that they should be able to navigate between input fields on a form by using the Enter key - i.e. to replicate the action of the Tab key. I've seen examples of Javascript code to do this, but I'd be interested in any feedback on whether there