Let the rain of hellfire begin! Though in the past, all they do is weave
more deceit and under-deliver on release. I read that MS decides to
introduce more bugs into IE7, and fix none from IE6. Joy.
Nick Lo wrote:
Partner sources say Microsoft is wavering on the extent to which it
plans to
that layout than
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I was taking requests to do a mock-up of a tables site into a CSS layout
last week because the office was pretty slow all of Friday. I figured
I'd share the outcome with the group.
Original Stats:
Tables: 31
Font Tags: 294
DIVs: 167
HTML size: 68.4kb
New Stats:
Tables: 3
Font Tags: 0
DIVs: 38
This seems weird to me as the layout uses a fixed width centred div of
700px and html has min-width:700px specified + there's an extra
div#mozscroll which is also 700px so the browser really ought to add
scrollbars when its width falls below 700px ... or am I
misinterpreting min-width? Any ideas
font: [italics/bold/etc] [size]/[line-height] [two
words],[fam2],[fam3],[etc];
Kevin Futter wrote:
My understanding was that there shouldn't be a comma in the shorthand font
selector after Trebuchet MS (but I could be wrong ...).
Cheers,
Kevin Futter
On 20/9/04 4:26 PM, John Oxton [EMAIL
it will
display CSS errors either. To see the stuff though..
When you click on something and the border blinks, you click on the icon
next to where it says Object - DOM mode -- that will bring up a list
of possible data displays. Play around with it.
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%;} on the [a] tags there should do
the trick.)
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they have an ample amount of specifics from the community. Big
improvement, probably not. At the rate the
IE team moves, we'll be lucky if they even get anything right with CSS
in their Longhorn release.
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the same, basic principals. Hello? Standards?
This is definitely a person whose words I wouldn't take into any real
consideration now or in the future.
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Rosie Norwood wrote:
Thank you to Michael and Andrew for your help on the float. Everything
works beautifully now and I am sucking up the new knowledge.
Rosie Norwood
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the space they reside
in horizontally unless limited by a max-width/width.
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Almost all of my visitors use IE, and I have less than two weeks to
solve the problem.
CSS is an excellent car, but IE is a broken muddy pothole-filled road.
Anyone know any bugs that prevent IE from loading a stylesheet?
You provided no URLs. Nada. Zilch. Nein.
Sorry, no can help.
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I think it was Michelangelo (though it might have been daVinci) who
said regarding sculpture, that the statue was already in the stone--he
merely removed the excess.
I'm pretty sure it was Michaelangelo Mord.
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were looking for, but here's my take on
what you intended:
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Thank you
Kim
I think you have a typo in your CSS file --
.content overskrift {
should probably read
#content .overskrift {
As for what causing the top padding to not show up in Fox, I've not a clue =/
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Just wrote an article addressing XHTML 1.1 and wanted some feedbacks.
My site just changed URLs and direction, so my current readership is
somewhere around zero. :)
Please just leave comments on-site. Don't want to clog the list with a
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I wouldn't trust JS as far as I could throw it (can you throw code?) ...
but is there a statistic on how many users actually disable it in their
browsers? Is it possible to sniff that out, and if so, how many users
per group are we talking about?
-Ryan
I seriously just have to add, those toons are priceless :) excellent
resource Manuel!
-Ryan
Manuel González Noriega wrote:
El dom, 09-05-2004 a las 05:56, Bert Doorn escribió:
Really, what is the practical (as opposed to philosophical) difference
between the two methods?
Hi Bert,
YoYoEtc wrote:
And if some users do indeed disable it, what sort of code do you put
it as an alternative to get the site to do what you want it to do?
Server-side languages such as PHP or ASP. JS is a client language
because it's dependant on a user's browser to supply the processing
power for
Damn man... I haven't laughed so hard in quite awhile.
For christsake -- someone please get the Australian .gov's to validate
proper.
There's an army of you guys over there. Makes me want to pack my bags
and jet :)
(and, I loved this guy's grammar and spelling.)
-Ryan
Neerav wrote:
The
I'm not clear to what your problem is from the email? You have 3
graphics (at least the only three that are showing up in FFox + IE6).
One is a solid purple column, one is a city and is horizontal, and the
other is a purple to white blender for the city bottom edge.
In FFox and IE, your
I never got into the idea of redirecting browsers to different pages
using JS. Using standards to make web pages renders that practice
obsolete for the most part since you get a one page serves all product
in the end.
If I use JS on any pages it is usually to make remembrance cookies on a
Re designing for 800x 600 or 1024x768, I think I will do that. From
what I am reading, stretching the city horizontal graphic will degrade
the quality and I can't take that risk
Yes, stretching out the image manually by forcing widthheight
properties on the tag itself with distort and
to pick between using transitional and getting WAI3 and using
strict and at best getting WAI2, or is there a solution for this problem?
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Leo J. O'Campo wrote:
My reply didn't show the full quote... so here it is for those who
will accuse me of taking it out of context.
Art is best left
to people
. If you click reply on
a random message, wipe out the contents and reply to another's email
*even if you change the message's subject line* it will still associate
itself with another thread of discussion.
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stretch *deny* a
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Justin French wrote:
Hi all,
I'm quoting for a client at the moment who seems to have her heart set
on dropdown menus for the sites navigation. I've implemented such
menus before
this to hiring a video game programmer and then
telling that person on top of all their languages, they have to
conceptualize and flesh out their own game characters. Art is best left
to people that have a knack for it. But again, anyone can learn to program.
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In your Method 1 CSS sample, the explanation mentions a 5px red
border, but there is no border attribute anywhere in the sample.
Perhaps the margin: 5px; in the #box_b selector was supposed to be border?
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Why not just use Firebird instead of a hacked up IE6 add-in? Will
probably have a better browsing experience with the real thing instead
of all that imitation stuff.
The only times I ever open IE are when I'm forced to because of
propriety Javascript applications that will only run themselves
True, Firebird can tend to load pages slower. It is because Firebird
loads one image at a time whereas IE will load 4 or 5 at once. There is
a way around this
See Speed up page rendering and Pipelining -- if you implement those
into your Firebird installation, it should narrow that load lag by
That's the thing though - you'll have to use hacks. Now, hacks are
commonplace in order to maintain browser compatibility in CSS. We can
all entend a big poop-covered handshake over to our Microsoft boys for
placing us in this position. Understand that it is the fault of the
browsers and not
This really has nothing to do with your email, but I'd recommend staying
away from image maps :) i always peek under the hood at the sites that
get sent out on the list. As it's not released yet, you'd still have
time to change your deployment method. If you don't agree, that's cool.
I'm just
Where to begin...
I was going to quote Zeldman's orange book, being the little Zeldmanite
I am, but I'll go freestyle in the hopes that I get his concepts well
enough by this point in time!
Image maps have (for the most part) fallen out of grace. I used to use
them at one time (actually,
It took me a week's worth of work before I actually smoothed out my CSS
enough to the point where it tested correctly in all browsers that are
CSS-layout capable. The rest just get fed the barebones HTML with
sparse images, and a short sweet notice about upgrading their
browser with download
rsquo; is an alternate (easier to remember) code than the official
unicode definition of #8217. All possible characters have a specific
number assigned to them in Unicode. The lettered helpers came out after
unicode was out to ease the pain of having to remember a set of digits
that had
Dreamweaver currently produces the cleanest and most valid code, and is
one of the most polished WYSIWYG editors out there. Zeld's cronies
worked with Macromedia to bring the program up to date with handling
standards. It does the job pretty well. I don't use the visual design
view all too
All list emails are accessible in the archives on the WSG website if you
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That's why you're not supposed to send out superfluous emails. Like this
one.. ... ... .. doh. Sorry Russ ;)
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Denis
I'm taking a glance at your page errors and will give you a few points
to help you get stuff sorted out./
Line 48
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://auslegs.com.au/about/index.cfm#line-48,
column 112/: there is no attribute height (explain...
Taco-
I think it's more of a complex situation than that. I'm sort of sick of
all the browser hoopla as well, and I've only been into designing for 5
years. Back when I was a consumer in the browser wars, that was a good
time as well - fun to kick back and watch the dust fly :)
I doubt there
Try redoing the layout aspects of the CSS using a shell from
http://www.inknoise.com/experimental/layoutomatic.php ... For
educational purposes I would keep an old copy of your stylesheet
settings to check for differences.
The only markup error I noticed was in your html declaration. You
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