Thank u vincent
i will try it n get back to u...
On Jan 10, 2008 11:50 AM, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
You're saying that a wrapper is needed to enclose all other elements
in a document to give it more meaning?
No I'm not. Point out to me
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
You're saying that a wrapper is needed to enclose all other elements in a
document to give it more meaning?
No I'm not. Point out to me where I'm saying that.
And I'm tired of your lengthy metaphysical argument about meaning. Have
fun turning the world into lists.
On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Why would we need to group containers together if it is not for
styling purpose?
Because we're saying that anything in the container belongs
together (thematically, content-wise, logically, etc).
On Jan 8, 2008, at 7:56 PM, Thierry
I'm wondering if the pursuit of semantics might sometimes be taken to
unreasonable extremes?
Must everything that is contained in the marked-up document contain some
semantic value? Must anything that does not have an inherent semantic value
be excluded? Surely not.
If an element is
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
You're saying that a wrapper is needed to enclose all other elements
in a document to give it more meaning?
No I'm not. Point out to me where I'm saying that.
I said:
Why would we need to group containers together if it is not for styling
purpose?
You answered:
i have dont dynamic calender for my site in javascript where i have written
styles also.but it is not suporting ie 6. the calender frame is not properly
visible on combo box in ie6.
please help me out with this problem.
On Jan 8, 2008 8:35 AM, Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Al Sparber
Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post):
DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a
document
Really?
According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear:
DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post):
DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document
Really?
According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear:
DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents as a hierarchy of
divisions.
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp
Demo:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/
no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no
_joke.asp
Nice write-up.
One of the issues with this technique: you
Al Sparber wrote:
The problem is with the standard. If one gets too hung up on semantic
markup
then there is the risk of bending the logical or implied semantics of
an
element to suit ones project. I submit that in the absence of a
perfectly
specific semantically correct element for a
When using DIV, what translate that hierarchy?
div id=level1
div id=level2
div id=level3I am down the hierarchy :(/div
/div
/div
This may not make Lists better for construct, but it should
show that the div element represents nothing at all (as it says in one of
the 2 links you
When using DIV, what translate that hierarchy?
div id=level1
div id=level2
div id=level3I am down the hierarchy :(/div
/div
/div
The indentation in the markup?
Is whitespace required to make sense of DIVs?
The IDs?
If we need to use attributes to make sense of it, then it'd
Thierry and all,
I am interested in the excellent and well thought out work you have done
with lists here. Intriguing!
However (and it's a serious question), in what way do you think that
using lists is 'better' than using a simple 2 or 3 -celled table (+ a
bit of CSS to style it,
Hi Bob,
I am interested in the excellent and well thought out work you have
done with lists here. Intriguing!
Thanks
However (and it's a serious question), in what way do you think that
using lists is 'better' than using a simple 2 or 3 -celled table (+ a
bit of CSS to style it,
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
DIVs are used for this, but do they *mean* this? If yes, then why does the
following validate?
div class=clearIt/div
For the same reason that
li class=foo/li
also validates.
Because if we are talking hierarchy and semantics, I think
something
should reveal the
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
DIVs are used for this, but do they *mean* this? If yes, then why
does the following validate?
div class=clearIt/div
For the same reason that
li class=foo/li
also validates.
You didn't quote an important part of my reply to Rimantas, who was saying:
I
My apologies for cross-posting.
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp
Demo:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no
_joke.asp
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Regards,
Thierry |
From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My apologies for cross-posting.
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp
Demo:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no
_joke.asp
A little history relating to floating-box layouts:
http://jp29.org/floatbox.htm
James Pickering
http://jp29.org/
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My apologies for cross-posting.
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp
Demo:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-
layout/no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no
_joke.asp
I'll cross-post, too -
Does your approach deal with any column any order? Is this a possibility?
Karl
On Jan 8, 2008 6:15 AM, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My apologies for cross-posting.
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
OOps sorry, read your demo page and it doesn't. Sure, your visual
tabbing might not be the same, but for semantics and SEO, I think its
fairly important to have major content ahead of secondary content in
source-order. I think it makes it much easier for screen-readers too.
Have you tried to
Does your approach deal with any column any order? Is this a
possibility?
Hi Karl,
As it says on this page [1]: The sequence of the columns depends on the
source order...
As far as I know, display:table doesn't let us play with columns the same
way we can do with floats.
[1]
OOps sorry, read your demo page and it doesn't. Sure, your visual
tabbing might not be the same,
which can be confusing ;-)
but for semantics and SEO, I think its
fairly important to have major content ahead of secondary content in
source-order.
I don't know. In my 5+ years old web site
From: Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I gave it a quick try, but I didn't really spend much time on this as I'm
not a fan of cheating with the visual flow.
I agree. Skip to links would be the solution. Layout is difficult enough
with the existing standards, but source ordering is, in my
On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:48 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/float-less_css_layouts.asp
Demo:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/css-layout/
no_div_no_float_no_clear_no_hack_no
_joke.asp
Nice write-up.
One
From: Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One of the issues with this technique: you can't use the 'columns' as a
containing block for absolute positioned elements.
Another issue: width on a 'table-cell' is more like 'min-width' than
'width'. The cell can expand in width if it contains
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post):
DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document
Really?
According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear:
DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents as a hierarchy of
divisions.
Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post):
DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document
Really?
According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear:
DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents as a
From: Geoff Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thierry wrote (in the linked article, not his post):
DIVs are meaningless and cannot represent the structure of a document
Really?
According to the HTML 3.2 spec, where they first appear:
DIV elements can be used to structure HTML documents as a hierarchy of
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Does your approach deal with any column any order? Is this a
possibility?
As it says on this page [1]: The sequence of the columns depends on
the source order... As far as I know, display:table doesn't let us
play with columns the same way we can do with floats.
We
Al Sparber wrote:
The problem is with the standard. If one gets too hung up on semantic markup
then there is the risk of bending the logical or implied semantics of an
element to suit ones project. I submit that in the absence of a perfectly
specific semantically correct element for a given
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