RE: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-31 Thread Christina Porter
Although late to this discussion I too am enjoying it. I work for a NZ Govt Agency and just recently our request for an additional person has been granted and we now have a person who will work with the publishers of all legislative documents and magazines that our organisation produces to

Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-21 Thread Alastair Campbell
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 11:23:44AM +1000, Webb, KerryA wrote: If that's an efficient and effective way to publish a document, let them do it - providing the PDF is properly marked up. Is there an organisation that systematically produces well marked up accessible PDFs? I train people in how

please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Michael MD
I'm all about web conventions. I didn't realize having a blank target didn't follow web standards. Is that documented somewhere? This one still bothers me ... The alternatives I've seen invariably require javascript and some of those javascript methods give the user less choice and are

Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Bruce
Personally and from a usability I feel pdf's belong in the office, not on the web. As a definite download link and have a choice between viewing it as html or a pdf download. I hate seeing pdf becoming more popular. Bruce P bkdesign - Original Message - From: Michael MD [EMAIL

please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Jermayn Parker
I work at one of the those government places that has those horrible pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt agree more. I used to believe that you only open in new window for pdfs but now only just realise that maybe its not best practise and could be thought about more.

RE: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Webb, KerryA
Jermayn wrote: I work at one of the those government places that has those horrible pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt agree more. And I work with people who build such sites, and I don't have a problem with PDFs per se. If that's an efficient and effective way

Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread dwain
Michael MD wrote: I'm all about web conventions. I didn't realize having a blank target didn't follow web standards. Is that documented somewhere? - at least give them the option to right-click and download it for offline viewing! the option is already there if you know about it. how do

Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread dwain
Bruce wrote: Personally and from a usability I feel pdf's belong in the office, not on the web. As a definite download link and have a choice between viewing it as html or a pdf download. I hate seeing pdf becoming more popular. i think that offering a substantial amount of information, like

RE: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Jermayn Parker
I think the problem is that the links are not easily reconised that it is a pdf document you are opening [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/07/2007 9:23:44 am Jermayn wrote: I work at one of the those government places that has those horrible pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I

Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maybe you should try Foxit Reader 2.0 http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php PDF's won't be going away anytime soon, particularly from Government websites. There is also zero chance of having all PDF's done as HTML due to staffing and time constraints. The best you'll get is a link to an