RE: [WSG] Article: MIME and Content Negotiation

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Ishida
Hello Karl, Interesting series of articles. For this one, there's quite a lot to be said, and fitting it all in in a way the novice can understand in progressive steps it is a bit of a challenge. Just a few thoughts [1] For text/html it is best to define the character encoding in the HTTP

[WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread KJ Callender
Hi, I want to include a file to be included into about 10 htm pages, and to save time me updating them individually, i want to use a include file. Using standards, which is the best way to achieve this: 1. !--#include virtual=/included.htm -- 2. !--#include virtual=included.htm -- 3.

Re: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Svip
Actually, the best way would be to use PHP, and besides, we do not tend to call them HTM pages, but rather HTML pages. And thus the filetype after its name is useless. It could be done as following in PHP: ?php include('included.html');? Which would not include your comment mark, and I do not

Re: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Svip wrote: On 18/01/06, KJ Callender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to include a file to be included into about 10 htm pages, and to save time me updating them individually, i want to use a include file. Using standards, which is the best way to achieve this: 1. !--#include

Re: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Charlie Bartlett
They work fine on IIS in windows, as long as yourusing .shtml or .asp as yourfile extension. As long as the code in the file you are calling is standards compliant,it doesn't make any difference how you call it. The browser will justtreat the code as if it were part of the calling page, just like

RE: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick Lauke
Svip Actually, the best way would be to use PHP, If it's only a case of including a piece of static content inside another page, there's really no advantage in using PHP over simple server-side includes. and besides, we do not tend to call them HTM pages, but rather HTML pages. Possibly

RE: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Peter Firminger
This thread is really off topic so let's leave it here, but to correct something (sorry Lachlan)... This works on IIS as well, as long as it's a .shtml or .shtm file to tell IIS to parse it for any required processing (like an include) before serving it (unless your host doesn't allow them).

RE: [WSG] .htm include file into another .htm

2006-01-18 Thread Jona Decker
You wrote: Using standards, which is the best way to achieve this: 1. !--#include virtual=/included.htm -- 2. !--#include virtual=included.htm -- 3. !--#include file=included.html -- I don't think the way you include has anything to do with standards. *What* you include does...that

[WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread kvnmcwebn
hello all, just a quick question, What one of these cms systems should i use? BTW im not a programmer. Drupal Geeklog Mambo Open Source PHP-Nuke phpWCMS phpWebSite Post-Nuke

RE: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread Dietmar Albers
Drupal - ok Geeklog - mhhh Mambo Open Source - mhhh PHP-Nuke- mhhh phpWCMS - mhhh phpWebSite

Re: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net)|(http://board.mcville.net)
2006/1/18, Dietmar Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Drupal- okfine Geeklog - mhhhmhmh Mambo Open Source - mhhh mhmh PHP-Nuke- mhhh mhmm phpWCMS - mhhh mhmm dunno phpWebSite- mhhh nah Post-Nuke - mhhh maybe but nah Siteframe - mhhh aAaaa nah TYPO3 - very good, but needs some nope special webserver

RE: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread Dietmar Albers
try - textpattern :) it's easy to use and good. OK, I think this is not a list to discuss such stuff. Nevertheless: Textpattern is good, very good. But from my view this is a blogger system and not a real cms. This makes it diferent ... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[WSG] H1 Image Replacement and Search Engine Rankings

2006-01-18 Thread Brewer, Dorian E.
Hello! I am using an image replace in my CSS for H1 tags in a new template I am developing on my companies intranet site. Our intranet consists of a portal homepage and hundreds of sub sites. The sub sites header would be the graphical H1 tag. Every sub site would have a different

RE: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread BIZARMEDIA
joomla -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2006 2:35 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] what cms system hello all, just a quick question, What one of these cms systems should i use? BTW im

RE: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread Helmut Granda
What about Joomla!? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dietmar Albers Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:06 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] what cms system try - textpattern :) it's easy to use and good. OK, I think this

[WSG] IE7 updates the select box

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Drake
Microsoft just announced the select box will be updated in IE7. This will be good news to anyone trying complicated form presentation. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/01/17/514076.aspx Does anyone have a form page that is suffering from conflicts between IE form elements and your CSS

RE: [WSG] Print stylesheet switcher

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Joshua I discussed something like this with Dunstin Diaz, http://www.dustindiaz.com/?id=86paged=2, of the AJAX style sheet switcher fame. He suggested the print style sheets could be handled similarly. For usability sake, I would suggest taking the visitor to a screen that showed them what

Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-18 Thread Keryx webb
Lachlan Hunt wrote: That makes no sense whatsoever! You never need to use the meta element for content served over HTTP for *any* browser. IE supports the HTTP headers just fine: I agree with Lachlan, to 90 %. If I recall things correctly, this is how things *should* work. 1. If the

Re: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread Romeo-Adrian Cioaba
try joomla.org. Joomla is the best open source CMS in the web. i'm working with it for over 1 year and all my clients were happy with it :)On 1/18/06, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello all,just a quick question,What one of these cms systems should i use?BTW im not a

Re: [WSG] what cms system

2006-01-18 Thread Geoff Deering
Romeo-Adrian Cioaba wrote: try joomla.org http://joomla.org. Joomla is the best open source CMS in the web. i'm working with it for over 1 year and all my clients were happy with it :) Does it handle standards based templates okay now? It used to insert it's own code in the Mambo days.

Re: [WSG] what cms system - THREAD CLOSED

2006-01-18 Thread russ - maxdesign
THREAD CLOSED The mail list does not cover: Discussion of content management/web publishing system issues beyond those directly involved with Web Standards (there is a CMS list for that purpose, Log in and go to Edit your login details and mail list subscriptions and set your preferences to Full

Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-18 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Keryx webb wrote: 3. If not (2): If the content is (X)HTML, UAs use the meta-tagg. When loading pages from local files or from an FTP-server, where obviusly no HTTP-headers are sent, this is what the browser should use to get the encoding. Meta elements are *not* used in XHTML files at all,

[WSG] The Evils of innerHTML

2006-01-18 Thread Joshua Street
Is it? I'm using AHAH (H = HTML, as opposed to XML) to dynamically retrieve some content and innerHTML seems infinitely more sensible: the content being pulled in has an indeterminate number of paragraphs, so short of parsing the incoming document for paragraphs, recreating elements, and setting

Re: [WSG] The Evils of innerHTML

2006-01-18 Thread Terrence Wood
Joshua Street said: do people consider it okay to use Supposedly faster than DOM methods, and usually requires less code. Personally, I don't see it as a problem for HTML documents, just need to be mindful that it will break as we move forward towards XHTML. otherwise impractical to use

Re: [WSG] The Evils of innerHTML

2006-01-18 Thread Joshua Street
On 1/19/06, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When would it be impractical to use standards methods? In this case, where I already have server-built markup that I'm perfectly happy with and would have to traverse + rebuild that with DOM methods. It's (seemingly, to someone with not a great

[WSG] Allowing users to select and sort items

2006-01-18 Thread Seona Bellamy
Hi guys, I'm wanting to create an interface similar to the one I've taken a screen shot of here: http://www.staging.renovate.com.au/example.png (this is from My Yahoo! when you go into Change Layout) In my case, I only need to have the ordering on the right-hand box. The left-hand box will

[WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
Dear all, I posted a message a while ago in regards to a _javascript_ fly out menu, received lot's of feedback and links, thanks. I had a look at all the options and found all of them were very bulky in code and very difficult to understand, exceptto the programmer who created it. Also

Re: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Al Sparber
From: Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:59 PM Subject: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...) I had a look at all the options and found all of them were very bulky in code and very difficult to

RE: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
I could be completely wrong here, and I am sure you will tell me so if that's the case. But I would think that a menu that has sub menus would need to be displayed as the following for it to be semantically correct; ol li a href=#/a ol

Re: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Al Sparber
From: Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...) I could be completely wrong here, and I am sure you will tell me so if that's the case. But I

Re: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Terrence Wood
Al Sparber said: Just out of curiosity, can you explain which menus are sematically incorrect and why? Hi Al, I suspect any menu system that doesn't use the elements recommended for navigation menu's since last century (i.e at least HTML 2.0) could be considered semantically incorrect. I'll

Re: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Al Sparber
From: Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...) Al Sparber said: Just out of curiosity, can you explain which menus are sematically incorrect and why? Hi

RE: [WSG] [OT] Flyout Menu (Semantically correct plus more ...)

2006-01-18 Thread Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox
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Re: [WSG] H1 Image Replacement and Search Engine Rankings

2006-01-18 Thread Kay Smoljak
Firstly, you can look into one of the many, many image replacement techniques that are about to allow a graphical title with a textual alternative for text-only user agents such as search engine spiders. I don't know which is currently considered the best so I can't advise you on that, but I'm

[WSG] Bottom-center button in div

2006-01-18 Thread Alvaro MouriƱo
Hi list, I have a little form inside a table (please don't hate me) and in one cell I have a control and a button. I want to center that button as you will see in the pics. The thing is that vertical-align doesn't work, and positioning differs from FF to IE. Another things is that the div takes