Re: [WSG] IE 7 check please

2007-10-13 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi Kepler, Thanks for checking. For http://spanish-portuguese.berkeley.edu/ - I'm not seeing a horizontal scrollbar in IE7 until you resize below around 770px (after the 3rd column drops below the 2nd). I suspect this is the behavior you wanted since FireFox behaves the same way. One thing

Re: [WSG] source order

2007-10-13 Thread John Faulds
Remember that a screen reader user has no idea how long a page is until they get to the end. They may be one line from the end, yet still have no idea what percentage is left. I'd have thought that would be a fairly useful feature to have. I often judge whether I'm going to read something on

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 10/13/07, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In a way, it's kind of like vs. . In a way, but... > Of course, if you really want to use innerHTML, you could probably go > right ahead. But if you are already using a very DOM-friendly > framework like jQuery, you may as well take a

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread Jason Friesen
My 2ยข At my College, we often wish to publish excerpts from official policy manuals &tc where we're showing Section 2.4.7, Paragraphs B through G, points 3-16, and so on... The CSS counter mechanisms are great for showing the whole document, but fall completely apart when you want to refe

RE: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread michael.brockington
I can see what you mean, however that would depend to a degree on what the list-number actually represents: perhaps the OP could give us a little more context? Anyway, no-one has spotted a good answer to this problem, so I merely offered this idea for discussion, as an alternative to other bad

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/13/07, Dan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, > > error-free CSS and Javascript...oh...and will the HTML and CSS validate? > > I don't think _any_ Javascript librar

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Dan Dorman
On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I going to see green lights* in Firefox for standards compliance, > error-free CSS and Javascript...oh...and will the HTML and CSS validate? I don't think _any_ Javascript libraries would affect HTML/CSS validation in any way whatsoever,

RE: [WSG] source order

2007-10-13 Thread Steve Green
"i wonder how many people using screen readers ever make it down there to the footer/copyright" In my experience they often do, although that's not because they are looking for it. Remember that a screen reader user has no idea how long a page is until they get to the end. They may be one line fr

[WSG] Lisa Lau is out of the office.

2007-10-13 Thread lisa . lau
I will be out of the office starting 12/10/2007 and will not return until 07/11/2007. I will respond to your message when I return. ** IMPORTANT: This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressee and may contain informati

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/13/07, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/13/07, Jason Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question, but what's the issue with > > innerHTML? > > But if you are already using a very DOM-friendly > framework like jQuery, you may as well take

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/13/07, Jason Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question, but what's the issue with > innerHTML? It's not an official W3C DOM method. When you fill the content of an element with innerHTML, the browser will render it but as far as I can remember, the content

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Jens Brueckmann wrote: I prepared a short example at http://lairx.de/071011/numbering- lists.html Triggers strict mode in Firefox - what about MSIE, Opera, Safari, etc? Opera 9.23/Win32+Linux and MSIE 6 SP1 both render in strict mode as well. I do not know

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread Jens Brueckmann
> Next question: How would a custom DTD affect standards-compliance vz. > quirks mode. That is a subject that I have no knowledge about. > > > I prepared a short example at http://lairx.de/071011/numbering-lists.html > > Triggers strict mode in Firefox - what about MSIE, Opera, Safari, etc? Opera

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread Keryx Web
Jens Brueckmann skrev: there do exist counters in CSS, see http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS2/generate.html#counters but, as you might have guessed, they are not supported by Internet Explorer. Yes. I was a bit too short on that one... As you already observed, list counters are rather content tha

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How hard would it be to have the list start with two empty elements, removed from view in what ever way works best? That would be dangerously close to "using markup to achieve a certain visual effect" though. P -- Patrick H. Lauke

Re: [WSG] source order

2007-10-13 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
JonMarc Wright wrote: i wonder how many people using screen readers ever make it down there to the footer/copyright/whatever-else-you-put-there I wonder how many sighted users make it down there as well, because for the most part that section of a page can be happily ignored unless you're lo

Re: [WSG] Marko is your Yaar! :)

2007-10-13 Thread Marko Mihelcic
O my, sorry about that yarri got my email details and is sending emails. Admin pleaes delete this subject/mail Tnx Marko Mihelcic On 13/10/2007, Marko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marko > Zurich > Marko Mihelcic wants you to join Yaari! > Is Marko your friend? > [image: > Yes]

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-13 Thread Jason Foss
Sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question, but what's the issue with innerHTML? On 13/10/2007, Christian Montoya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/12/07, Simon Cockayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Anyone using jQuery (http://jquery.com/) or Yahoo UI > > (http://developer.yahoo.co

Re: [WSG] source order

2007-10-13 Thread JonMarc Wright
agreed, good message Ben... something this thread made me think about that i really hadn't considered before, and can't recall reading about anywhere (granted i am new around here): with all the skips and "jump to"s and methods for pulling links and whatnots, i wonder how many people using screen

Re: [WSG] Catch 22 list problem

2007-10-13 Thread JonMarc Wright
> > How hard would it be to have the list start with two empty elements, > removed from view in what ever way works best? > > Mike It would be very simple, though you'd need to use a class for it. Empty list items isn't exactly semantic, however, and anyone browsing with css turned off would see

RE: [WSG] IE 7 check please

2007-10-13 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Tee, For http://spanish-portuguese.berkeley.edu/ - I'm not seeing a horizontal scrollbar in IE7 until you resize below around 770px (after the 3rd column drops below the 2nd). I suspect this is the behavior you wanted since FireFox behaves the same way. One thing I did note was the search head