te fit (horizontally) at 800x600 (on my system).
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t right to me.
You might also want to add margin-right to .lfigure so text that
wraps around the float has a little "breathing space".
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be it should be a div rather than a p(aragraph). To float
the paragraph (or div), add a width to .lfigure and give it a
float:left or float:right as appropriate.
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I'd say your problem is here:
#navwrapper li a:link, a:visited {
See the a:visited? That affects ALL links on the page.
I think you meant to say:
#navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited {
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k at the resources section
of the webstandardsgroup website - there's plenty of resources
there for two column css layouts.
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The browser tries to balance the table cell heights and in so
doing makes the "header" cell taller than you want it. You may
be able to fix this by setting a height (in CSS) on the header.
Better still, as David hinted, don't use a table for layout.
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but I think we're far enough off-topic already.
But how about cutting down the size of your emails and making
them plain text? No need to repeatedly quote 40k of text with
all that Micro$oft formatting in it.
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#x27;s my opinion anyway.
I do think a page should have only one main heading (H1) but
that's another much debated issue and I'm neither an expert nor
an authority on the subject.
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y.section2 { background-color: #fff }
etc
with
and
etc
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for some hint
ive them a
plain-vanilla site. They'll get used to it as more and more
sites go down that path.
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But I still recommend fixing the 65 validation errors...
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I tested my solution in MSIE6 and Firefox before sending it too.
They both behaved per spec, indenting only the first line of
each paragraph.
If the intention was to indent the whole paragraph, my suggestion
would have been along the lines of p { margin-left: 1em }
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I wanted to get my paragraphs to indent on a site so I tried the most
intuitive thing:
p:first-line{padding:1em}
How about
p { text-indent: 1em }
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the images are loaded. Could be a
problem if there's a lot of them, especially on dial-up.
If the image is to be replaced on hover, you'll probably need
javascript (someone correct me if it can be done with CSS)
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itors who
have not already installed Flash WILL have to install something
for this to work.
Besides, going back to Angus' original post: "I also chose MIDI
because WAV and/MP3 would take to long to download." How does
this "player" change that?
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be able to use
the object element for it. Give it a type="audio/midi" and see
what happens.
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"...Before resorting to an alternative page, reconsider the
design of the original page; making it accessible is likely to
improve it for all users."
...Last resort...
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he page is then displayed properly.
See http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp
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inside the dt
(for the number) and give it a width? And put a margin on the dd
equal to that span?
Or what about simple normal every-day headings? We can go up to
6 levels deep with them...
I guess it all depends on the application.
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... How will assistive technology "render" it? What
about browsers without CSS support?
My guess is that some or all of them will double up on the
numbering and cause a great deal of confusion, especially when
the lists are nested.
Plus I foresee formatting problems (indented tex
G'day
Jad Madi wrote:
Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads?
Not if they use standards compliant markup.
Easiest way to check is to get a page to validate, then insert
the ad and see if it is still valid.
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I'd be able to reproduce the symptoms you described
would be with a nested table (old school, not recommended)
The inner table would then inherit the 0.7em from the first table
and further reduce it with its own font size setting. You'd end
up with 0.7em * 0.7em = 0.49em.
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get too big (in browsers that
support max-width and max-height)
There are still a lot of people with browser windows that are
760px or less in width.
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ons under the photo, I think
it's perfectly reasonable to use an empty alt attribute. Doesn't
the caption take its place anyway?
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ld put it online somewhere for us to look
at, we may be able to spot the problem and steer you in the right
direction.
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if you have set the font on the body element, try adding the
table to that rule there. The following example assumes your
menu table has an id of "menu":
body, #menu { font: normal 90%/1.4 Helvetica,sans-serif }
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n there.
I just don't see that it is necessary here (per
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/diffs.html#h-4.8) as you're using an
external style sheet and there's no entities that can cause
confusion to x(h)ml in the import method used.
But I may be missing something.
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When I run HTML tidy on a file (XHTML strict), it always wants to add
"/* in any of my
(valid xhtml1.0 Strict) sites. Avoid the characters that make it
necessary and/or usually use external style sheets (and external
javascript files).
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head section, you could
use the same method to replace it to use an imported style sheet.
Biggest question is: how consistent is the site's layout? Will
it work with an overall style sheet or two?
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transitional) HTML, you might try to remove
further presentational attributes and aim for HTML4.01 strict.
I note the site uses some CSS, but it's full of proprietary
attributes too, has a lot of duplication and doesn't seem to do
anything. Ditch it :-)
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US English -->
<-- For speakers of British English -->
<-- For speakers of French -->
--
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lang="pt" only on the elements (divs or whatever you're using)
with portuguese content.
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t for
developers too, but why feed it to every visitor?
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be better, as IE users with high security settings still get
alternative content.
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I don't think semantics come
into it. But I may be wrong.
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tools/plug-ins, at least
provide a fall-back mechanism, so your site doesn't fail
accessibility standards/guidelines.
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rth...
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/objects.html#adef-align-IMG
The align attribute is deprecated and should be avoided if
possible. In addition, align="absmiddle" is a Microsoft
Invention/Extension, which is why it works in MSIE.
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background:#0b73c1; }
Try adding a width. If a fixed width nav block, fix the width,
otherwise play with "100%" (but you might need a hack to hide
that from browsers other than Windows IE)
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uot; list. So why don't you use a
list element?
I note you don't want to add complexity. Is an unordered list
more complex than the code in the splash page (which is not valid
HTML4.01 Transitional, let alone Strict as suggested by the DTD)?
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element "form" which is not open
You're self-closing the form Remove the / from the end of
the form element and (as long as that's the only typo) all should
be well.
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e XHTML and CSS references) is www.zvon.org
It even shows which elements and attributes are appropriate for
each DTD (and I use strict 99.9% of the time)
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for the image.
FWIW, spare a thought for people on dial-up with 800x600 display
(nothing to see unless they scroll down or wait a minute or more
for the huge image to load). Also consider people with MSIE who
can't read the text and can't enlarge it because you specify the
font size
tent of any and every div, list item and
what have you.
Best to just put it on body...
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time to analyse all those nested divs and the corresponding CSS.
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ox, if I click on
the dropdown for maximum salary, it does not let me select (it
appears, then disappears immediately). I have to hold my mouse
down and drag to make a selection. Annoying.
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ySQL is actually server side scripting....
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side by side (preferably with a separator other than a space).
Cool link here or there ...
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I cannot seem to isolate the IE Hack to just work on my menu DIV, and not
work on the whole page.
Suggest you validate and fix the xhtml, then check for cascading
issues. With invalid xhtml it's anyone's guess what a browser
will do.
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none; }
}
See anything wrong here?
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I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see
the stylesheet, while others don't?
The link to the page:
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.
Try making that "stylesheet" (all lower case) and see if it makes
a differen
There's also a "small" matter of accessibility... A quick scan
of the webstandardsgroup.org resources section shows this link:
http://www.webcredible.co.uk/user-friendly-resources/web-accessibility/accessible-forms-1.shtml
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y on hover), put a background image on
li.last a
...and...
li.last a:hover
Incidentally, you might ass more contrast - there's not enough of
it, especially on hover, making the (tiny) link text very hard to
read.
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r:red;color:white }
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r separators
allowed
...p://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd" />
I suggest you remove the space and / from the end of the DTD (it
should not be there) and see if the problem persists.
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browsers (scrolling with mouse scroll wheel doesn't work)
but does what it's supposed to do in MSIE6 (built it quite some
time ago, when I basically built for MSIE). Works in Opera 7
I'll see if I have some more examples (that validate)
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n't remember where I found it (anyone ?)
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nuisance is a non-issue for me with
Firefox. I have it set to not allow scripts to hide the status
bar or change status bar text, resize windows, etc.
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what not to do. They still make a mess of things, especially
when they use M$ FontPlague.
So... I'll stick with "I will update for you as and when needed
and charge for it. If you want CMS, I can't help you".
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sites (I've got it, but don't use
it much - prefer hand-coding). And if they can't figure out how
to use it, they can come back and pay for updates...
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the server (or a database driven site), all of which increases the cost.
What other options are there, apart from complex, expensive CMS setups
(or forgetting about standards)?
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cify your left margin and padding as 4% and 1%, but
MSIE PC does not recognise max-width.
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rs (haven't tested that - I
always use the standard DTDs).
Still, it would be nice to have additional input types, like
"integer", "email" or "currency", to go along with the existing
types.
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see why you would use a table for such a simple layout, and the
inline styles should really go into the external style sheet.
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) and at resolutions above 1024x768 it sticks out on the
left. Stats vary, but this site will have the formatting problem
for a sizeable portion of visitors (perhaps half),
The absolute positioning you mentioned is the cause of your problem.
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loading (too many images?)
8. No Headings (h1..h6)?
If you're going to tell people about markup and accessibility, at
least present it on a page which actually uses that markup
properly and is accessible.
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othing there that says we *have to* use the long-winded
rgb(255,255,255) approach.
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Salon
...
I naturally looked for overriding CSS styles but could find none:
Haven't looked at the page, but the snippet you sent shows:
#block .subimgl img, #block .subimgr img {
margin: 0 0 .5em 0;
height: 1%;
}
What happens if you remove that height setting?
Regar
irst place when it's just
"text buttons". I'd use a simple ul. Even a paragraph,
separating links with pipe ( | ) characters is cleaner.
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padding is added to that figure, for a total width of 728px.
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developer toolbar in Firefox) and it
made no visible difference to the layout.
Perhaps this is causing issues in some versions of MSIE 6 - it's
trying to float things that are full width and gets confused.
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ou think it matters. Browsers that have
neither js nor css support (e.g. lynx) will see a standard nested
bullet list with ALL the links.
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parent gif or PNG so the table cell background
colours show through).
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ot; and "header" ID's as well.
With the above CSS rule you would need a very tall background
image if you want it shown the full length *height) of the
table/page.
If it is an image that can and should tile, remove the no-repeat
from your background rule (or replace it with the s
ngine so it should work.
windowdiv.setAttribute("className",wclass);
windowdiv.setAttribute("id",name);
the classname is not being set
any suggestions?
Have you tried class instead of className?
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a and only
worked at some resolutions in MSIE. Rounding issue.
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Terrence Wood wrote:
why? So that the summary is semantically different from the rest of the
content.
...
Bert Doorn wrote:
Question: *why* do you want to use blockquote in the first place?
If it is purely for presentational purposes (indented block) I agree
that you are abusing the m
use of or
and cite attribute (and perhaps the element)
would be appropriate, since I am QUOTING, verbatim, from another
document and referring to the (external) source for reference :-)
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ot;selected" to the appropriate option
(in the example below, option "2" is selected)
Date
1
2
3
Can't tell you HOW to do that in PHP because I don't "speak" PHP
and it would be off-topic for this list.
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)HTML, the result is unpredictable.
The problem may not disappear if the page validates, but it
should be the first step in trying to find the cause of the problem.
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ercentage of visitors with old browsers (on old computers)?
What if you were selling software that can only be operated by
expert users with the latest equipment? Different audience.
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their container.
Simplest way to fix it is to add this rule to your CSS:
.TeaserContainer:after {
clear:right;
display:block;
height:0;
content: "";
}
See http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html for
more info.
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Is there an alternative to the one I use now at http://www.iamu-edu.org
, that is(/was?, can't find it anymore) listed on Russ
http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/listamatic/ page?
Son of Suckerfish: http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php
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The issue has been resolved. Thanks to all who replied (you know
who you are).
It was a faulty installation of Firefox, not faulty CSS or XHTML.
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about it, otherwise it could just be
there's something wrong with his browser setup.
Please send replies (of the "I see it" kind) direct to me (bert at
bwdzine dot com), but if you do not see the inputs and you know what the
cause is, perhaps share with the other members :-)
f the main h1. Each h3 belongs to a
sub-sub-section under the h2. And so on. You can have multiple
h2's each with multiple h3's etc.
That means... Your second version.
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r img {
display:block;
float:left;
width: 200px;
}
div.whatever p {
margin-left: 220px; /* image width + a little extra */
}
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of what my mother said about someone who had
to take 17 different types of pills every day - about 12 of them
were prescribed to combat side-effects of the others
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the following from #content:
clear:left;
That should fix it.
I won't comment on the use of tables... OK, I did :-)
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css file. Newer
browsers would see no matching class or id in the (x)HTML so they would
not use it.
Thoughts, anyone?
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k box, which
itself is flowed as a single inline box, similar to a replaced
element. The inside of an inline-block is formatted as a block
box, and the element itself is formatted as an inline replaced
element.
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rong... I do not nest tables (except to put a
table with tabular data inside the single "layout table"). I
cringe when I see sites that nest their tables just to get some
spacing etc that can be achieved easily with CSS.
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SS (better in Firefox and Opera than in MSIE, because MSIE
does not support the CSS "border-spacing").
The bottom line for me is... If it can be done with CSS, use
CSS. If it can't be done reliably and the lack of browser
support is a critical issue, use (still valid) Strict att
#x27;t need such attributes because CSS can take
care of it, keeping the (x)HTML document nice and clean.
I thought the whole point behind (x)HTML strict was separation of
content and presentation. Keeping "align" attributes does not
seem to fit in.
Regards
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Bert Doorn, Better Web
ntax for empty elements, e.g. , as the alternative syntax allowed by XML gives
uncertain results in many existing user agents.
So yes, I'd say there is something wrong with ,
just like there is with and
HTH
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/
Fas
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http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/index/attributes.html indicates
that the "align" attribute it is *NOT* deprecated for COL,
COLGROUP, TBODY, TD, TFOOT, TH, THEAD and TR. Neither is valign.
Regards
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Bert Doorn, Better Web Design
http://www.bette
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