RE: [WSG] When is invalid CSS okay?

2007-08-22 Thread Philip Kiff
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: > The real reason for me to not use 'CC' for separation, is that the > versioning goes on on HTML level and adds unnecessary garbage to every > single page. If you happen to be designing an XHTML site and decide you want to use server-side scripting to deliver your pages as X

RE: [WSG] Usability & Accessibility Over Design?

2007-08-14 Thread Philip Kiff
Philip Kiff <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have enough time to browse the WSG Mailing List [] > then you are probably already at risk of having the > prices for your web design services severely undercut by someone who > is younger and faster, and who places

RE: [WSG] Usability & Accessibility Over Design?

2007-08-14 Thread Philip Kiff
James Jeffery wrote: > It is possible to get good Accessibility, Usability and Design, but > usually you have to give and take for each or one of them. > [] > Its not our fault or the clients fault, whatever the > client wants he gets > [...] > The client is the hard part. Sometimes they want s

RE: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet updated for MSIE

2007-08-12 Thread Philip Kiff
Philip Kiff wrote: > Tested this link: > http://keryx.se/resources/html-elements.xhtml [corrected] > > This link does not seem to work in MSIE 7, 6, or 5.55 on my test > machines. Works now as designed on all MSIE browsers listed above - it serves HTML 4.01 Strict version, with a n

RE: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet updated for MSIE

2007-08-11 Thread Philip Kiff
Philip Kiff wrote > Tested this link: > http://keryx.se/[...].html Ooops. That isn't the link I tested. I tested the xhtml one that is supposed to get rewritten in the htaccess rules: http://keryx.se/resources/html-elements.

RE: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet updated for MSIE

2007-08-11 Thread Philip Kiff
Keryx Web wrote: > This is the set of rules in my .htaccess that I think should do > the trick: > [snip] > It works with FFox, Opera 9.2, Safari for Windows (complained at first > about too many redirects for no apparent reason) and MSIE 6. Tested this link: http://keryx.se/resources/html-elements

RE: [WSG] Absolute positioning in the flow of the document?

2007-08-02 Thread Philip Kiff
Paul Collins wrote: > I've spent a while trying to figure this out and I'm not sure there is > a solution. I've got two levels of navigation here; visually one sits > on top of the other, but the second level will change according to > what top level link you click: > http://www.method.com.au/newWe

RE: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-20 Thread Philip Kiff
Designer wrote: > Can we just step back a moment, and consider what we are doing. As I > write this reply, I am typing the content of this mail IN A NEW > WINDOW.[] > Do those who proclaim annoyance at having 'new windows forced on them' > apply the same thinking to mail, Dreamweaver (and all

RE: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Philip Kiff
Hassan Schroeder wrote: > I've done usability tests where users *preferred* off-site links to > open in another window. I find that surprising. I am sure you are right, however, that it is all about context. Certainly if you sat down in a room full of 20- to 25-year-olds today you would not find

RE: [WSG] To target or not

2007-07-19 Thread Philip Kiff
Joyce Evans wrote: > I always thought it was a good idea to open links to other websites > in a separate window, so you don't lose the visitor. [...] I think that the weight of public opinion has been steadily turning against this view over the past 10 years or so. I would be interested in knowin

RE: [WSG] Accessibility and "fly out" menus

2007-06-21 Thread Philip Kiff
Mary-Anne.Nayler wrote: > I was wondering how members here feel about the accessibility of "Fly > Out" menus. The type I'm talking about are CSS based, ie no > JavaScript but I'd be interested to hear what people think about > those that utilise JavaScript. There was a discussion about this *exact

RE: [WSG] intuitive text resizer for accessibility toolbar

2007-06-21 Thread Philip Kiff
Benedict Wyss wrote: > My idea is to have a basic font size to allow a reasonable amount of > content with less scrolling and then in an accessibility toolbar give > the visitor the oportunity to increase the font size in the main > content area. This to me seems like a decent compromise. I am open

RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down

2007-06-12 Thread Philip Kiff
>> Ryan Moore wrote: >>> I see that it relies on a source of JS to complete the effect, and >>> i'm wondering if it's possible to complete this purely with XHTML & >>> CSS. Anyone have a good example of this? > Keryx Web (Lars Gunther) wrote: >> Just do not do it. It cannot be done. >> >> a. JS is

RE: [WSG] Back to the Future

2007-06-12 Thread Philip Kiff
> Chris Taylor wrote: >> [] >> My initial tests show that NN4.03 handles some CSS (float, >> background, border, font etc) but not some important things >> (list-style, margin and padding on lists). Is there a source for >> information about CSS support on old browsers? Nick Roper wrote: > Inf

RE: [WSG] Safari now on Windows

2007-06-11 Thread Philip Kiff
Michael MD wrote: > Speaking of Mac browsers - > a friend called me on the weekend and said he can't find anything > newer than IE5 for OS9 but won't upgrade to OSX because it would be > way too slow on his G3. (and he doesn't have the money to buy a new > machine) > now that is something to think

RE: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-06 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata <> wrote on EDT: > On 2007/06/04 12:33 (GMT-0400) Philip Kiff apparently typed: > >> In particular, the subheading tag line on the DancesSRQ is just a >> wee bit too small for my tastes -- my browser computes it as 10px. > > The one line #element7B p

RE: [WSG] What does Semantic mean?

2007-06-06 Thread Philip Kiff
Lucien Stals wrote: > It seems to me that many people here have different ideas about what > semantic means. It would be helpful it we shared a common > understanding in our conversations. I welcome, and invite, a *polite > and professional* debate about the use of the term "semantic" as it > relat

RE: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Philip Kiff
Designer wrote: > Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been > attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a > max-width. I've used an expression for max-width in IE <7 (pinched > from Georg!). I've tested it in FF1.5, IE6 IE7, Opera 9, and Netscape > 4.0

RE: [WSG] layout/font site test - please

2007-06-04 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata <> wrote on EDT: > On 2007/06/02 11:06 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed: > >> Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been >> attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a >> max-width. >> [] >> You can see it at: >> http://www.marscovis

RE: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

2007-05-28 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata wrote: > On 2007/05/28 02:43 (GMT-0400) Philip Kiff apparently typed: > >> 1. Use Percentage on body font-size, then apply ems on the rest >> Owen Briggs >> The Noodle Incident - Sane CSS Sizes >> http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typogra

RE: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

2007-05-28 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata wrote: >> BBC >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/d/ >> body {font-size: 62.5%} > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ was recently overhauled. It used to be 13px. > Here's a look at before: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/bbcSS.html Ooops. My mistake, your screenshots are right. The BBC news site uses the

RE: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

2007-05-27 Thread Philip Kiff
I spent some time carousing through various sites and email lists and ended up trying to pull together some of the disparate techniques, arguments, and references about page font sizing into a single document. Because this message grew to an unwieldy size, I've divided it up into 5 sections: 1. C

RE: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

2007-05-27 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata wrote: > On 2007/05/25 17:47 (GMT-0400) Philip Kiff apparently typed: > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> What matters is: >>> [...] >>> 5-that any deviation a designer makes from 100% is >>> arbitrary, as it's made from an entirely u

RE: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

2007-05-27 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata wrote: > Your mission, should you choose to embrace it, is to convince the > client that maintaining an anachronistic practice is the wrong thing > to do, and that doing the right thing is always the right thing to > do. Maybe this will help whenever that discussion ensues. > http://www

RE: [WSG] Converting font size from pt to % or em

2007-05-25 Thread Philip Kiff
Felix Miata wrote: > What matters is: > [...] > 5-that any deviation a designer makes from 100% is > arbitrary, as it's made from an entirely unknown starting point > > 100% of the visitor's choice equals respect for the visitor. I'm not really convinced that this is an issue of "respect" for the

RE: [WSG] wa state guidlines question

2007-05-10 Thread Philip Kiff
Thierry Koblentz wrote: > The script can do much more than just adding the event. It can add a > title attribute, plug an icon or even add some text within the anchor > tags. That way the info about the behavior is plugged only if the > behavior is available. Frank Palinkas wrote: > You can find m

RE: [WSG] Markup for Poetry?

2007-03-29 Thread Philip Kiff
Jeremy Boggs wrote: > Are there > any discussions or examples on strategies for marking up and styling > poetry? I don't know of a set of guidelines for simple markup of poetry in X/HTML, but you can find some discussions about it as well as some more involved methods of marking up such texts thro

RE: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time

2007-03-19 Thread Philip Kiff
Bob Schwartz wrote: > The test site at > http://www.fotografics.it/fife/ > has been refurbished [...] I would appreciate it > if you guys could check it out for any errors or "wrong practices" It looks like the site may have problems displaying at widths of less than 1000px in Opera 9 and Firefox.