Hi Wsg,
I'm new to css and xml but am starting to get into it.
A page im working on exhibits a placement problem when the viewed in
navigator 6-mac.
The page works well in ie 5-mac.
Does netscape have problems with some positioning values?
The only work around I can think of is doing to sets
The top right links are not positioning properly in ie 5 mac either.
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Hi Russ,
At your recommendation i made my layout simple.
It now works in ie4 and up. Thank you very much.
However the image in the div mast dosnt show up in netscape, can you tell
me why?
I've encluded most of the style sheet in this email.
Nearly there.
-Kevin
BODY {
marging: 0 0;
Hi all,
I tried to build a portfolio site using web standards code, more or less.
The site consists of a main page for primary navigation and logo with two
inline frames for content/subnav pages.
I didnt use tables on the main page, only css positioning and i had to use
different style sheets
Hi guys,
I really need help.
Im building a portfolio site for my graphics work.
Check it out at
www.mcmonagle.biz
The problem:
Browser compatability.
I live in Ireland, i estimate that half the people here use a 4 or 5th
generation browser.
I built this portfolio site using css positioning
Hi,
The css navbar is'nt working in netscape 6 mac.
The regular a link state is the problem,
for some reason the text color is not what it should be in netscape 6mac.
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/finalone.html
thanks in advance
-Kevin
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Hi,
I had sent a post earlier regarding trouble that I was having with a navbar
in ns 6 mac.
Well i solved the problem.
For the nav bar links i created a decendant selector like this:
#nav a:link {...}
#nav a:hover {...}
But i also had the regular link states specified in the style sheet, like
yes it was only netscape 6 mac that was causing problems which are now
fixed:
The problem was that netscape would pick up the a: link text colorfont
size: then use the rest of the styles from a nav decendant selector that it
should have been using for everything. Im away from my desk for the
David and lindsay,
Thanks for the advice on clearing the floats. Can you check that this
layout holds up in ie 6 now?
~davidLaakso wrote:
The problem that may need to be addressed is that the page is
brittle. Font-scaling will expand thenav and drop the float.
Yeah i will have to
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www.mcmonagle.biz/arena7
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Hi,
Just one more question about this page:
http://www.arena7.ie/index2.html
When viewing the above page with ie6 pc can you see the diagonal striped
bacground pattern?
I have ie6 running locally on an old machine thats offline and its not
showing up.
thanks for all the help
-best
Hello,
Thanks for all the suggestion for the background image.
I have one more problem with this site.
www.arena7.ie/index2.html
click on the function room link in the far right of the top nav bar.
notice that when the link is clicked the layout breaks.
this is because the right border turned
Hello,
This has been discussed before but i was wondering about new input.
I've tendered on a big job and i will be up against a lot of competition.
What are some web standards selling points that might get through to a
completely uniformed, unsavy client.
The job requires a cms, ill be using
Does this site use some kind of image replacement/substitution technique
for the headers?
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The padding changes on the active state did you try defining it for that
state?
Ted Drake wrote:
I’m trying to investigate an issue with a button that uses sliding doors for
flexibility. It looks good for normal and hover states. On the active state,
the button changes sizes and the
Whats the current web standards position on jump menus?
I've never used them as top level navigation before but i have a situate
where im considering it. If it is permissible what are the guidelines?
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hi all,
Just wondering what the best way set width and height on a horizontal
list menu like this
http://www.nwtc.ie/home.html
so that a user-sizing the fonts wont break the layout but can still
change font size.
Thanks
-kevin
broke and everybody's pointing fingers.
Today i just told them to go back to using table based layouts and i
will restrict my designs accordingly- i cant listen to the whining anymore.
What would you have done in this situation?
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Yes I agree a min width would be good, if not maybe look into png
transparency for the floating logo.
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/png_overlay_with_no_extra_markup.asp
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I think in your situation though it's the choice of your client as to
their code.
Find another client - or risk sounding like a whiner yourself. At the
end of the day, you can give clients informed choice...
Good advice: I dont want to come off as a whiner because thats not what
i would
Parker, Simi (DPS) wrote:
Hi everyone
I am investigating some potential issues with our live broadcasting
service and if you use an O/S / browser / media player configuration
other than Windows / Internet Explorer / Windows Media player, I would
really appreciate your feedback and/or
Hi,
Is there a way to do this unobtrusively and validly? see div ids:
div id=/wrapper/
div id=/visible all the time/
/div
div id=/hidden but expands when link clicked/,
/div
/div
div id=/wrapper/
div id=/visible all the time/
/div
div id=/hidden but expands when
First get a feel for the content, play around with different ways of
presenting it using a graphics app and or sketching- i use illustrator.
The presentation should come naturally from the needs of the content -
web standards practices support this way of working.
When the illustrator file
://www.eaf.textdriven.com/design.html
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Thanks nick i might need to implement that js fix.
The sliding doors method, or any that ive seen, only works if all the
tabs are the same colour.
I will have to change my design cause i dont have time to figure id
out-in fact even if i did have the time
that would be a tough nut to crack.
Hi,
Whats the method of setting the overflow of a div to scroll vertically
only.
I saw it here a long time ago but cant find anything online about it.
I thought it was something like overflow: scroll-y; but i cant remember.
-thanks
kevin
Sorry folks - problem solved,
i found the anwser in the list- archives
overflow-y:scroll;
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Hi,
Whats the method of setting the overflow of a div to scroll vertically
only.
I saw it here a long time ago but cant find anything online about it.
I thought it was something
I was in your situation about six months ago and someone on the list
recommended textpattern.
The textpattern text editor textdrive is meant to be easy to
learn-clients can do simple formatting to their content updates easily.
I was able to train a client to use it in one sitting. Still if i
I dont know, im stuck with it.
Heres my progress
http://eaf.textdriven.com/
Sander Aarts wrote:
kevin mcmonagle schreef:
The sliding doors method, or any that ive seen, only works if all the
tabs are the same colour.
I don't see why. If every tab has its own id you can define different
;
}
*#home #nav-home a,
#news #nav-news a,
#products #nav-products a,
#about #nav-about a,
#contact #nav-contact a* {
background-position:100% -150px;
color:#333;
padding-bottom:5px;
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Terrence Wood wrote:
I'm curious as to why you need a hack for safari as it's a reasonably
compliant browser. What are you trying to work around?
Hi Terrence,
In this case its to compliant for my design-which the client has all
ready approved. I didn't foresee this issue and cant change
.
In school the teacher has to teach for the dumbest kids in the class and
that ruins it for everyone else.
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So you're saying that someone using an 800-pixel-wide monitor probably
wouldn't know what it's like to see the same page with a
1000-pixel-wide monitor?
A user that has they're screen resolution set to 800x600 is well used to
scrolling.
The school analogy wasn't
Hi-first this is a confusing post but i cant put it simply.
Theres a div acting up in ie7(6 as well?) -
http://www.eaf.textdriven.com/testie.html
it shows up on the bottom right of the ie7 screen but works in ff and safari
Since i was made aware of the problem Ive made changes but need to see
Simon Moss wrote:
Hi Kevin,
You could use conditional comments to serve that up exclusively to IE7
- but does the #gradient div really need to be outside the #wrapper
div? Would a z-index not place it over the #rightcol div?
Good question-I had thought about that briefly but i have a phobia
All right-after reading all the posts on this topic ive been reviewing
my rational for sticking with fixed width layouts for the last 50 sites
ive designed.
Where can i find the latest tutorials, articles and examples of creating
relative sized layouts.
Specifically can anyone recommend a site
Hi can anyone suggest how i might get this definition list to wrap around
the thumb image which is inside the h2 tag. It wraps in ff and safari
and netscape but not in ie:
I cant move the image out of the h2 its dynamically generated from the
cms.
heres the url:
Hi,
On the below 3 column page
http://www.jfl.ie/index.php
under the header image part there is the search input box and a blue bar
that spans across the wrapper.
2 of the 3 columns below that, the center and right navigation column,
need to be positioned with a negative top coordinates.
I read somewhere that the latest gen adobe external js script method for
flash embedding fixes a stacking bug when it comes to z-index. are you
using that method to embed?
CK wrote:
Hi,
How does CSS z-index and flash commingle, or does the solution rest
with scripting?
CK
On Dec 20,
hi,
If i can ask an old question, whats the best way to get margins and
padding to be set the same across all browsers.
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From a web typography stanpoint its nice and clean but somehow its not
as comfortable to read as it could be.
Maybe crank up the leading and possibly the font size as well. maybe
make the horizontal word count less. Maybe spend a bit of time styling
some heads and subhead to break up the
hi,
Im not sure on the exact reason why in line styles are not accepted but
i assume its because they are not as efficient as putting styles into a
linked style sheet or into the header. I mean the only reason i can see
that they dont validate is because its sort of sloppy and defeats the
sorry my mistake - i forgot inline styles are valid but not best practices.
you guys are right in all you say but i dont know if you understand
exactly what im saying.
A textpattern form with inline styles, only gets loaded once and when
a change is made to it every page on the site is
John Faulds wrote:
only CSS in an external stylesheet gets cached...
ok john that settles it. no more inline styles in my forms. thanks.
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I should have said we can still create templates for the pages that
are the same as long as all styles are created using the CSS (so that
download time is faster).
huh...that doesnt make sense?... i dont know
This is way above me but isn't that what the below method does?
http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/ufo/
if so how does he do it?
it seems to be the savy solution
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Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac.
Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc?
Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment.
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Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it
refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install
properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since.
g.
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Hi
hi,
just a quick follow up. After 20mins downloading and installing and no
cost im running ie6 and 7 natively in tiger with ies4osx. It aint pretty
but it works.
-best
kevin
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
thanks for the good reply's guys. I think im gonna try this one first:
http://macapper.com
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install wine verstion .51
the current version doesnt work.
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yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.
Thomas Thomassen wrote:
Nothing. Web 2.0 is a buzzword. There's nothing truely new.
It's often accociated with social networking. Sites where the users
provide the content.
Hi,
Im frustrated with a margin difference in ie6. Im modifying a zen cart
install and didnt create the style sheets and dont have much control
over the html.
The problem is the two links (log in and home) at the top right of the
page header. Ive added The borders just so you can see the
Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with
conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working.
Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating
of IE6/7 I use the netrenderer:
http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ and for more advanced checks use
browsershots: http://browsershots.org/
Cheers,
Tony
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Hi,
Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a
repeating background img?
Im having problems solving
If its not a repeating background this is the easiest way to get png
support:
http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/
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is there any way to get ie6 to accept this property:
background-position:top center;
i have a tabular nav bar with different width tabs, the background image
needs to center itself.
thanks
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That code isn't standards based.
Use textpattern.
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hi,
anyone know how ie8 will work with ufo flash detection js and and the
standard dreamweaver flv embedding scripts?
thanks in advance
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There's not even a downloadable beta of ie8 out yet...so I think there won't be
much of an answer beyond speculation?
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Im doing a site for a nightclub. So im doing a hybrid.
The owner has demanded a music track playing continuously.
What would you lot do if you had to put in a continually playing music
track?
I mean the only solution that is a frameset right but i just want some
feedback of the dangers of
hi,
i think if i cold sell him on a player that would be user controlled.
I will tell him he can put in more tracks by his dj's.
Sorry i meant to change the title of the post.
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hi,
thanks for the reply but im going go with the a controllable music
player that ill do up in flash.
The main problem was that he wanted a continuous song going on the site
which would have been impossible without frames. But as some members
suggested a controllable player is much more
I think its very handy even though i hardcode most stuff.
Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not.
The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator.
I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive.
Sorry if thats
:
h2section title/h2
h3apage name/a/h3
h3apage name2/a/h3
...
thanks in advance
-kevin mcmonagle
www.mcmonagledesign.com
www.donegalimage.com
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hi,
I have a bg image set for heading links like so:
h3 a:link, h3 a:visited, h4 a:link, h4 a:visited {
overflow:visible; background: url(/images/arrowh3.jpg) no-repeat 100% -1px;
padding: 0 40px 0 0;
}
The problem is that if a long heading breaks to two lines the background
image
, 2008, at 14:36, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
hi,
im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really
for a nav bar just a section of the site that has a number of
related articles.
im using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what
hi,
My friend wants to learn about css so i told him to do the selectutorial
on the maxdesign site.
It says to reset the margins in the body then use ems for padding.
I was reading somewhere that cancelling out the margins in the body
tells the browsers to go through all the tags and cancel
Is this wrapper floating over the mast div in ie7 only? ahhh.
http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup.html
http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/css/boxes.css
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try these,
http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/
http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=JW_FLV_Media_Player
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Im trying swf object 2.0.
http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup2.html
Im using the static-standards compliant method that uses conditional
comments.
I thought it would validate better than this. Theres a lot of unclosed
errors on the param tags. Should i just self close those i
What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full
flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for flash in
general??
Im a big fan of xhtml/flash hybrid sites myself. Usually I'll consider
using flash for anything but links(usability reasons) and the
Michael Persson wrote:
Do we still want the money to produce their website or do we say no
because we are web standard freaks and would never touch such a
bad usability and accessibilty project dirty money hahaha..
Well would we...??
If all they want is eye candy give it to them and take
Recently it was pointed out to me that a site I built is breaking in
firefox 3 beta five.
How close is this to release? Do i need to worry about this? the site
works fine in current browsers-firefox and otherwise.
-thanks in advance
kevin
Hi,
Are there any free services like net renderer that show firefox 2x.
scree captures?
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Using swf object 2.0 embeded swfs as an xhtml sites primary navigation -
what are the liabilities?
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to navigate how will it impact seo?
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Using swf object 2.0 embeded swfs as an xhtml sites primary
navigation - what are the liabilities?
without flash, no navigation; not crawled/indexed by search engines;
not keyboard-accessible in firefox; even
Rick Lecoat wrote:
If the visitor has Flash then the Flash swf replaces the alternative
content. If they don't (or if they don't have javascript turned on)
then they'll get the fallback content, which should also suffice for
search engines. (Of course, don't make your fallback navigation
Thank you matijs thats what i was wondering, you make a good point about
using javascript but im not an expert in using it.
Matijs wrote:
There isn't really a way for a search engine to see how many times a
link has been clicked. It is however possible for a search engine to
see / count how
any good standards based tutorials out there for adding them to regular
xhtml pages?
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Thanks thats just what i was looking for.
Melissa wrote:
Best one I've seen and used is at Veerle Pieters' blog:
http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/fickr_badge_w3c_valid/
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What is the software, plug in or extension that does this automatically?
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hi,
im doing a list with a background image and some text. how can an make
the whole li area hot and not just the text.
i forgot how to do that
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The main thing is to make sure that the list item is set to display:
block.
I had tried that rick but i was putting the padding in the li not the li a.
Do i still need to make li's block elements for ie?
-best
kevin
Sorry Kevin, I meant to say that the a *inside* the li should be
set to display: block. list items are block level by default.
no problem thanks for the help.
Theres another issue with this nav bar. There are 3 primary links that
have images - the rest are just text. Ive used an id
Hi,
Is it possible to target specific classes in a list to apply different
background image to the different links in a list nav?
tried everything i could think of but cant get it to work.
something like:
#navlist li .furniture a
or applying the different images to the anchors instead of
Rick Lecoat wrote:
Note the removal of the space; li.furniture refers to a list item
that has the class 'funiture'; li .furniture refers to some other
element with a class=furniture *that is contained within* a list item.
oh boywell that explains it..
Thanks for the tip on the
hi,
im using negative margins to put a png half over the edge of a wrapper
div.
Works good in ff, but breaks the layout in ie.
Is there anything i can do to get ie to display the
div like fire fox does or is this to tall an order for ie?
-best
kevin
Thanks David,
That works well in ie 6 7.
I only had to add a negative margin in a conditional
comment to the div that was getting pushed up.
-best
kevin
David Owens wrote:
Hi Kevin,
You might be better off using
position: relative;
top: -35px;
instead of the negative margin
hi,
I have a wrapper in that wont scale to its contained content/divs but
there are no heights set in the divs that i can see.
Is there something else that can cause this?
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outerwrapper was floated left or right itself..
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David Hucklesby wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:08:47 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
hi,
I have a wrapper in that wont scale to its contained content/divs
I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now,
Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000
proffessional?
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a little more valid / semantic
div.clearer {clear: both; line-height: 0; height: 0;}
div class=clearernbsp;/div
On 17/07/2008, at 4:04 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
now i can validate.
thank you
-kevin
thanks for the links.
-best
kevin
David Hucklesby wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:35:32 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now,
Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000
proffessional?
Assuming you
its used as a shim.
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Why do you think that it is important to stuff something invisible
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Sorry folks, but am I missing something here?
Why do you think that it is important to stuff
hi,
i want to use the underscore hack instead of conditional comments
because it will be easier to keep track of image paths.
Its only an ie6 because transparency workaround.
In my understanding the below code should only serve the gif to ie 6,
not later versions?
but IE net renderer is
Hi I've been asked to redesign the gui on a hotel booking engine / room
allocation web app.
Its basically the busiest example of tabular data ive ever seen - most
data in the cells is input.
Any Advice on styling an overwhelming amount tabular data?
-best
kevin
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Its basically the busiest example
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