Re: [WSG] Photo gallery standards?

2005-05-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 29 May 2005 15:46:29 +0100, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How to Create a Photographic Gallery Using CSS: http://www.webreference.com/programming/css_gallery/index.html I don't like it. It works only on hover and that's Bad Thing for usability and accessiblity. I can't use

Re: [WSG] Photo gallery standards?

2005-05-29 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 29 May 2005 16:39:51 +0100, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually i'm having a problem in my project, I have to have category for every person, with his albums so the site become so ugly and so huge, and the current content is only 20% of what I have would you mind to take a look

Re: [WSG] style sheet set up

2005-05-28 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sat, 28 May 2005 17:10:14 +0100, Bruce Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there any standard way to set up the flow of a style sheet? I usually try and use just one style sheet and start with global elements such as body, p, table, li etc. followed by elements as they flow on a page from

[WSG] Re: [WSG] ® character

2005-05-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 17 May 2005 11:58:08 +0100, Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know if there's an XHTML special char. for ? #174; You should avoid all named entities in XHTML, except quot, amp, lt, gt. For all other characters use unicode encoding or numeric unicode entity reference. -- regards,

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:00:28 +0100, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much do I need to bother about quotation marks etc being represented as their 'proper' equivalent, eg ' as #39, and so on? Not much. I've ended up with the horrific prospect of painstakingly going through and changing

Re: [WSG] apostrophes, and the like.

2005-05-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:21:23 +0100, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a href=foo.phpquot;barquot;/a An XML parser would barf on a href=foo.phpbar/a as the quote char describes an attribute. This is badly formed markup. No, it is not. Quotes and apostrophes can be used in XML text. You can

Re: [WSG] search engine question

2005-05-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:58:23 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do spiders crawl links in external javascript files, like the ones found in some dhtml menus? No. You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links in HTML. See son of suckerfish dropdowns. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] search engine question

2005-05-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 16 May 2005 02:59:32 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would those suckerfish dropdowns interfere with divs below them, ie push them down or anything. No. Typical DHTML menus are HTML+CSS created and controlled by JS. Suckerfish dropdowns is HTML+CSS created by HTML and

Re: [WSG] search engine question

2005-05-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 16 May 2005 16:11:26 +0100, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to use good, accessible menu that uses links in HTML. See son of suckerfish dropdowns. I'm not sure if CSS menus are really accessible. IMHO, they lack a timer, browser support is weak and most of them do not

Re: [WSG] search engine question

2005-05-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 16 May 2005 04:01:09 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess theres pros and cons to both methods, Im leaning towards a dhtml menu that supports ns and ie 4+. I'd avoid any non-trivial script that supports 4.x browsers. Scripts designed for those browsers often rely on browser

Re: [WSG] search engine question

2005-05-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 16 May 2005 05:06:43 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you think im making a HUGE mistake by using this dhtml menu from, im going to leave it. How huge mistake is having website seen by Google as Your browser does not support script message? I mean what are the

Re: [WSG] when navigation schemes go bad.

2005-05-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 12 May 2005 18:42:07 +0100, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used something similar on this site: http://www.csatravelprotection.com I don't see anything that would require tons of CSS on that page (checked FF nightly and Opera 8.01). Sub-navigation doesn't even change when

Re: [WSG] Using Object to replace IFrame

2005-05-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 12 May 2005 21:25:36 +0100, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a page that works ok using an IFrame to load some content from another web site into this frame. The page is XHTML 1.0 Transitional compatible using an IFrame. To make it XHTML 1.0 Strict compatible, I would need to

[WSG] Opera Acid 2 progress

2005-05-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Here's forum thread about it: http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=91018 and here is pretty nice comparison of latest builds: http://my.opera.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=929573 -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Minimum browsers/OS tested for?

2005-05-12 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I develop sites primarily for Opera and Firefox and then downgrade for IE6. I occasionally check in Safari. Opera/Gecko/Safari get fully-featured website. IE6 almost (except some :hover/:focus, etc) and generally I don't care about anything else. If client pays extra I add stylesheet+scripting

Re: [WSG] Minimum browsers/OS tested for?

2005-05-12 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:56:10 +0100, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think of people stuck with old browsers, the same way I think of people using keyboard navigation, etc. I believe browser support is accessibility, so I spend time tweaking my sheets, *trying* to make my sites look

Re: [WSG] Headings within ul Navigation

2005-05-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 04 May 2005 17:31:06 +0100, Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know whether it's correct to use headings in your navigation? Technically h is allowed in li, but semantically - I think it's not. IMHO headings should only be before actual content, so when you jump

Re: [WSG] Combination of CSS menu with dhtm/javascript menu button?

2005-05-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 02 May 2005 18:59:24 +0100, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [01] http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm/ [02] http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ Thanks! Not trying to discredit the effort of SOS creator, but it doesn't work for IE 5.2 Mac, it's out of

Re: [WSG] The mother of all html references?

2005-05-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 03 May 2005 14:02:32 +0100, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using this online html reference (http://www.htmlreference.com/) for the past 6 months or so, and so far it's been fine. No, htmlreference.com is full of deprecated elements and attributes. Half of

Re: [WSG] Semantic tag for copyright slug?

2005-05-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 01 May 2005 04:23:35 +0100, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This maybe taking the whole semantic thing too far, but is there a copywright tag (not the Meta Tag) that one should use for copyright information? I've searched the web, but can't find one defined other than the

Re: [WSG] To table or not to table, the form question

2005-04-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 21:41:11 +0100, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to create a complex online order form that look something like this: http://www.melsmarket.com/cgi-bin/orderonline.cgi Haven't start yet but I already imagine it will be a big headache if using CSS, especially copying

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-28 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:43:59 +0100, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This in turn makes it easier to develop code specifically to fix IE problems. Why has that been such a well kept secret? I thought that was quite popular technique. IE has conditional comments for JScript as well and that's

Re: [WSG] Voice family box model hack

2005-04-27 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:30:59 +0100, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain how the following works? Put subject of your email in Google search box and hit I'm feeling lucky. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: Betr.: [WSG] Window Pop-ups

2005-04-26 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:44:24 +0100, Gerard Copinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a href=help.htm target=_blank onClick=javascript:openNewWindow(this.href); return false; title=opens in new windowHelp/a Why do you put *useless* javascript: *label* inside onclick handler? -- regards, Kornel

Re: Betr.: [WSG] Window Pop-ups

2005-04-26 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:04:39 +0100, Prabhath Sirisena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might find this useful: http://www.accessify.com/tutorials/the-perfect-pop-up.asp This popup is imperfect. In examples there is always return false;. It should be return !window.open(..); It uses inline JavaScript -

Re: Betr.: [WSG] Window Pop-ups

2005-04-26 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:16:12 +0100, Jeremy Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) If the link has a class of popup: 1) add an onlick behaviour 2) cancel the default action 3) make onkeypress do the same thing. No, don't use onkeypress. lnks[i].onclick =

Re: Betr.: [WSG] Window Pop-ups

2005-04-26 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:24:28 +0100, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a href=help.htm target=_blank onClick=javascript:openNewWindow(this.href); return false; title=opens in new windowHelp/a As a side note: using _blank as the value of the target attribute is not a good idea unless

Re: [WSG] IE7 update

2005-04-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
https://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/22/410963.aspx They claim png support and the end of the peekaboo bug, for a start! Exciting stuff! Not really. Improving css support consistency means IE is going to be *consistently broken*. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Nested Links?

2005-04-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:31:47 +0100, The Bo$$ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is nesting one link inside another semantically incorrect? Such as a href=#This is a a href=#link/a/a? It's technically incorrect. Specs forbid nesting as, although validator doesn't always catch it because DTD mechanism is

Re: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?

2005-04-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:36:25 +0100, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first points on that web site is: Sites built with web standards take less time to develop I have to disagree. Trying to lay a site out with CSS can be very complicated and time consuming ...when you don't have equal

Re: [WSG] Accessibility and showcasing heavily visual work (was IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc))

2005-04-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:14:35 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about hybrid sites where the content is primarily xhtml and the visuals or branding utilize a swf(with alternate content of course)? IMHO that is quite OK, if you put inside object some alternative content (images,

Re: [WSG] php-files get horizontal scrollbar in IE

2005-04-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:49:35 +0100, Daniela Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, I work with frames, but my client want's that (and a content manegment program, so he can update himself). But frames aren't neccessary for that. PHP has include() But now I get a horizontal scrollbar (only in

Re: [WSG] Mystical belief in the power of Web Standards, Usability, and tableless CSS

2005-04-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:41:34 +0100, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a vital ingredient in web design which is never mentioned by guys like this : IMAGE. There are many web sites which sell nothing but image - no products, no marketing: just image. Such a site is:

Re: [WSG] UTF-8 (was: Quirks mode vs Standards mode)

2005-04-18 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:10:44 +0100, Paul Menard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious what tidy parameters you are using. I have some European (Polish, Czech, Russian) language sites I'm working on and would prefer to convert the UTF-8 to some numeric equal for certain high-range letters.

Re: [WSG] i-frame and Div Overflow auto

2005-04-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:29:54 +0100, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which is more standards compliant the i-frame of div overflow auto or scroll. Some issues in version 4 browsers exist with the div method, but what share of the viewing populace uses any version 4 browser. Iframe has

[WSG] Standard JS events and properties?

2005-04-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Google is full of post-netscape JS or adopted IE extensions... Where can I find authoritative list of standard (i.e. future-compatible, non-deprecated) JS properties for HTML/CSS manipulation? I'm using W3C DOM and events (I don't care about IE-compatibility), but what about manipilation of

Re: [WSG] Quirks mode vs Standards mode

2005-04-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:43:34 +0100, Gunlaug Srtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, my question again - rephrased: are there anything IE6 can do in standard mode, that it can't do -- albeit differently -- in quirks mode? Right-aligned box in flow with left-aligned text in and around it. --

[WSG] Easy forms, uneasy Gecko

2005-04-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
There is a very easy way of doing forms without tables: label {display: inline-block; width: 10em;} and it works in IE/win, IE/mac, Opera and Safari, but totally fails in Gecko... Does anyone know how to get it working in Gecko? I prefer doing forms that way, because I'm styling code that I don't

Re: [WSG] Easy forms, uneasy Gecko

2005-04-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:35:31 +0100, Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very easy way of doing forms without tables: label {display: inline-block; width: 10em;} and it works in IE/win, IE/mac, Opera and Safari, but totally fails in Gecko... Does anyone know how to get it

Re: [WSG] Client wants flashing text

2005-04-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 22:48:28 +0100, Jeff Oien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a client wants some flashing text for emphasis, what do you do or tell them? That he's not a professional designer. He has hired one that makes right decisions for him. Blinking text is a step in that direction:

Re: [WSG] Automated accessibility testers

2005-04-13 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:48:46 +0100, Rowena Padel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cole I really can't remember where I got it, but I have a pdf file called Dive into Accessibility that is freely distributable under a GNU Free Documentation license. I found it a brilliant description of the what, why

Re: [WSG] CSS issues: Opera's absolute positioning

2005-04-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:53:14 +0100, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm pretty sure it's a bug in (Win) Opera's absolute positioning implementation, but annoying nonetheless... would anybody be able to suggest a simple fix to get the advanced search/preferences list to align properly next

Re: [WSG] more on flashish stuff: SVG

2005-04-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:02:52 +0100, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have developed some projects on SVG (http://siter.com.au/dmitry/Pie/pie.html , http://siter.com.au/dmitry/Composer/Composer.html , http://siter.com.au/dmitry/MaxControl/index.html , etc.) It is very powerfull

Re: [WSG] usage of new entities in dtd's

2005-04-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:41:16 +0100, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just curious if any popular browser would display this page properly http://www.tarunz.org/~vassilii/html-is-an-sgml-dtd.html I though Moz would, but it disapointed me. Opera does, but only for XML (i.e.

Re: [WSG] Styling the legend tag in a fieldset - solution

2005-04-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
http://www.themaninblue.com/experiment/InForm/fieldset.htm : would you say that there is no way to style a legend so that it is not ON the border of the fieldset? I've just made a hack for IE: fieldset {background: red; position: relative;} legend {position: absolute; top: -0.6em; left: 0;}

Re: [WSG] CSS Document layout/structure

2005-04-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 10:33:58 +0100, C Slack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I group and sort properties in rule like this: selector { positioning; floats; width; height; margin; padding; border; color; background; text-; font-; } For programming languages I prefer Allman style of

Re: [WSG] CSS Document layout/structure

2005-04-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:44:52 +0100, Piero Fissore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #menu { width: [$menuwidth-$menupadding-2*5px]; padding: $menupadding; border: 5px solid red; } Mmm, cool! But does it really help you? During development - a lot. I usually put menu after content in document - this

Re: [WSG] CSS Document layout/structure

2005-04-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:55:52 +0100, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: border: 0; border-bottom: 0.1em dotted #781B11; Property redefined. That's correct. The shorthand property border already defines border-bottom. True, but it also defines top, right and left. Do you mean? border-bottom:

Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

2005-04-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 01:03:20 +0100, info [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also said that adding: -- saved from url=(0014)about:internet -- at the beginning of the file disables this behaviour. I think you meant: !-- saved from url=(0014)about:internet -- ^ it was missing the exclamation point. :D

Re: [WSG] margin:auto not working on MAC

2005-04-06 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:23:50 +0100, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Have a page that seems to be lining up fine everywhere I am checking ( Opera, Firefox, IE ), validates fine but is a little off on a MAC, And PC displays fine? That must be endian-related problem ;) -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish and IE 6 (SP2)

2005-04-05 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:03:03 +0100, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've encountered that as well. I think It's interesting that it blocks javascript on your own computer, but will gleefully accept it (and activeX objects and whatnot) from the internet (because we all know who

Re: [WSG] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:31:49 +0100, Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You do it via JavaScript. For example: a href=http://mysite.com; onclick=window.open(this.href); return false; onkeypress=window.open(this.href); return false;/a This is the most accessible way to do this. No, it

Re: [WSG] Multiple classes applied to one element

2005-04-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:27:35 +0100, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is certainly valid code and as far as I know, it is accepted across modern browsers. I've used it quite a lot and have never had any trouble with it. I find it quite useful. Except that multiple classes selector

Re: [WSG] Multiple classes applied to one element

2005-04-01 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:03:32 +0100, Tim Isenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: p class=grey justified/p .grey{ color: #cc; } .justified{ text-align: justify; } I strongly disagree. You shouldn't name classes by how they look. span class=red font color=red Read

Re: [WSG] typographic challenge with css

2005-03-31 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:31:25 +0100, Vaska.WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tricky part, since I can't do this with a span (I believe) is that I only want class='sentence' to be just the width of the word itself (just as a span does it) a bit offtopic note: From CSS point of view there is no

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-31 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:35:50 +0100, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not flaming you - but have you seen this: Why Google's indexing of swfs is worthless http://www.quasimondo.com/archives/000404.php Same old same old. If you read the comments, one person states that he has a

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content

2005-03-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:18:37 +0100, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the repercussion, if any, of having a div set to display: none with content meant strictly for search engines. There is a chance that search engines discover that, consider it cheating and lower ranking of your

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content[FLASH SDK]

2005-03-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:09:59 +0100, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the MM site: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/download/search_engine/ I _think_ it is literally _for search engines_ as in the Google devs would use/implement it. Sorry for any confusion this may have

Re: [WSG] Hidden Content[This Was Not My Idea]

2005-03-30 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:15:09 +0100, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there has been a misunderstanding. This was asked of me by the client as an alternative for: add alternative content (images, text) inside object element. I had no idea this would be considered cheating, and posted

Re: [WSG] Website Check

2005-03-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products Calling this with Opera and disabled automatic redirection, a page with http 301 is shown. I do not know if every screen-reader or lynx would accept this. You're spreading FUD. That's one of basic features of HTTP. Browser that doesn't support 301 status

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] A HREF around a Flash Object?

2005-03-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:46:35 -, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that a browser without css support will show the two objects/images. Use conditional comments around object tags. Hint: !--[if !IE]x-- normal code !--![endif]-- -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] Dilemma: Useful, additional attributes in elements, invalidating HTML

2005-03-20 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:04:23 -, Sigurd Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your problem is described in detail in: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customdtd/ Before creating your own tags/attributes, check http://whatwg.org/specs/web-forms/current-work/ -- regards, Kornel Lesiski

Re: [WSG] NS4 spacing borders

2005-03-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:15:11 -, Carol Doersom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a standards compliant way to force NS4 Please, don't support NN4. It's buggy outdated browser. If you start worrying how your page works in NN4, your code will start decaying. If you hide CSS from it, probably

Re: [WSG] NS4 spacing borders

2005-03-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:12:10 -, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kornel Lesinski wrote: Please, don't support NN4. Unfortunately, this type of decision often does not rest with the actual developers, but with management or other stakeholders. True, but management should make

Re: [WSG] NS4 spacing borders

2005-03-19 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:17:35 -, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: (I believe NN4 doesn't do CSS without JS enabled anyway): Excellent...I wasn't aware of that one; as it sounded a bit strange, I proceeded to test it, and indeed you're right. It must be a

Re: [WSG] style attribute depreciated in xhtml 1.1?

2005-03-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:49:00 -, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm implementing some BBtag-like things on my webste though, and it semes to make more sense to have something like [red] create a span style='color:#f00'/span instead of a span class='red'/span and have a whole bunch

Re: [WSG] javascript problem with pop-up on hyperlink click (IE6 displays an error, FF, Opera work fine)

2005-03-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:49:57 -, Thorsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a href=# onClick=javascript:window.open('therapeuten/barkow-lewinsky.html','Barkow-Lewinsky, Eva','width=450,height=200,left=150,top=150');Barkow-Lewinsky, Eva/a Never put URLs in onclick (javascript:blabla *is* URL) Don't

Re: [WSG] problems with nodetype

2005-03-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:03:19 -, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or is this list turning into javascriptgroup.org? HTML and CSS aren't the only web standards. DOM and ECMAScript are too. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski **

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] javascript problem with pop-up on hyperlink click (IE6 displays an error, FF, Opera work fine)

2005-03-11 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:22:25 -, Chris Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never put URLs in onclick (javascript:blabla *is* URL) Forget that use this idea: A HREF=javascript:void(0); onClick=openWindowFunction(params) That is tweaked non-standard accessibility killer. It will break even if I

Re: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE

2005-03-09 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Stuart, I regret to say Opera7.54u2 is not happy with it. fieldset p { clear: both; } BTW: Latest Opera 8 beta has issue with floating fieldsets fixed (well, mostly). -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Onresize Javascript function? Any standard equivalent?

2005-03-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Hi everyone, I want to create a function that will swap a style sheet as you resize the browser, for instance, I have two style sheets, one with settings for lower than800x600, then a style sheet for any resolution greater than800x600, but imagine if someone resized the browser from 1024x768 to

Re: [WSG] Onresize Javascript function? Any standard equivalent?

2005-03-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Thanks, but when I tried to insert onresize into the body tag it told me it was invalid. Sure, because inline JS is a technique of Ancient Netscapers. You should use DOM to attach events. I had a look at the A List Apart style switcher, but this is only if the user clicks on a link. It

Re: [WSG] is rgb(255,255,255) better than #ffffff or white?

2005-03-02 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I was just reading through the Web authoring standards document at http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/standards.html and I noticed the line Authors MAY use any legal markup to determine document colours, but SHOULD use RGB specifications to do so. Does that mean that hex values or color names

Re: [WSG] wildcards in css selectors?

2005-03-02 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 18:08:08 -, Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a[href=http://www.foobar.com*] or a[href=*filename*] CSS3 has ^= selector. (Look it up in http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ ...) or http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#attribute-selectors -- regards,

Re: [WSG] To display or not to display validation logos?

2005-02-25 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Perhaps we need a simple page to link to, explaining what standards are for,in terms that the non-tech viewer can appreciate? I like that idea... -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Fieldset and Opera 7.5X

2005-02-25 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I've a problem with this page http://republicana.dk/kontakt.php (and the 2 other forms in that group) in Opera 7.5 on W2K system. I really can't figure out why they drop in Opera. They are OK in other browser I've installed on my system... FF, IE. This is known bug in Opera. Fieldsets

Re: [WSG] vertical drop-down menu

2005-02-24 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:25:49 +, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody recommend a tutorial and/or some examples of a standards-compliant menu with a vertical orientation? Specifically, I need something that allows the user to see the second-level options when you either click or

Re: [WSG] systemnames in CSS?

2005-02-23 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:30:53 -, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: color : windowtext; I understand (from my not very useful trawl of Google) that these are systemnames. What's this all about? Would it be useful, and if so, when? I use it for SAMP tag to fake user's

Re: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

2005-02-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:33:51 -0500, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if any of you have any tips on creative ways to keep spambots from harvesting email addresses on you page, and still keep then accessable to diabled people and text-browsers. Anyone else have any good

Re: [WSG] Web counters

2005-02-22 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:16:17 -0800, InfoForce Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this is not off topic. If it is, reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is a good web standards web counter to add to a web site to monitor web site hits. Some counters will say that hitting the back button to

Re: [WSG] setAttribute not working on Firefox

2005-02-21 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:29:02 +1000, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: windowdiv.setAttribute(className,wclass); the classname is not being set windowdiv.className=wclass; works for me. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] CSS3.0

2005-02-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:02:22 -0500, ByteDreams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a newbie, I admit, so allow me to ask a dumb question. Are there any browsers currently supporting some of these CSS3 modules? Yes. Experiments, some using CSS3, are in CSS section on literarymoose.info Gecko support some

Re: [WSG] quot; or in copy?

2005-02-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
I've just asked the W3C Validator. Test based on XHTML Strict. PCDATA, document text (plike that/p): allows '' and '' everywhere, allows, but warns about '' with non-letter after it (' ', 'tag', '123', '# ' are fine), does not allow '' followed by a letter. CDATA, attribute text (a href=this

Re: [WSG] Need some MAC screen grabs - And some more

2005-02-17 Thread Kornel Lesinski
Netscape 4.x/All. IE4/Win is blank, wonder why? I'd say what I think about these browsers, but that kind of language is forbidden on this list ;) Use @import to hide CSS from these browsers. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] IE7 may ship ahead of Longhorn

2005-02-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:57:17 +1100, Chris Blown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know why MS just don't do what Apple did with Safari and leverage an open source rendering engine like Gecko or KHtml. That doesn't fit world domination plan. MS must OWN everything. Oh, that's right they'd break all

Re: [WSG] valid tracker code

2005-02-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:08:15 -0400, The Snider's Web [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: script type=text/javascript src=http://www.statcounter.com/counter/counter_xhtml.js;/scriptnoscriptdiv class=statcountera class=statcounter href=http://www.statcounter.com/;img class=statcounter

Re: [WSG] active and current id's in lists

2005-02-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 08:59:59 -0800, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The active id is giving you the opportunity to make that list item stand out from the others. The current id is giving you the opportunity to make the link stand out from the others. Why second ID instead of simply using

Re: [WSG] Quirks DTD

2005-02-16 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:38:32 -0500, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice, however if we had some standard about this that the browsers could at least be encouraged to implement. It might help with the goal of making older sites viewable in any browser. If a free DTD or

Re: [WSG] DTD is a formality?

2005-02-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
The issue at hand is that [productname] is completely compliant, but is more modern than HTML 4.01. If you remove the doctype tag, all your rendering issues should be resolved. This is sooo untrue. If they require invalid HTML, their product is NOT compiliant. If you remove doctype, browsers

Re: [WSG] IE7 Confirmed

2005-02-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:03:01 +, David R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Straight from Scoble's blog: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/02/15.html#a9441 This should prove interesting No... he used word compatibility, which means that all bugs must remain untouched. They're just going to

Re: [WSG] DTD is a formality?

2005-02-15 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:54:47 +0100, Jeroen Visser [ vizi ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kornel Lesinski wrote: The issue at hand is that [productname] is completely compliant, but is more modern than HTML 4.01. If you remove the doctype tag, all your rendering issues should be resolved

Re: [WSG] Pages reloading

2005-02-14 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:29:14 +0100, Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is reloading, so what's the problem? It depends on the line speed and cache how fast it will load the new page. So it may flicker sometimes, sometimes not. True. You can't do much about it. If your client can't stand

Re: [WSG] Not and IE bug?...follow up difference why a difference between IDs and classes?

2005-02-10 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:40:49 -0500, Trusz, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: newbie questions... What is the advantage of the fact that IDs must be unique on a page? 1. getElementById() works. 2. Validation. If you use div id=maincontent, validator will complain when you have two or more such

Re: [WSG] Links not working in MAC

2005-02-10 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:06:04 -0330, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have a page, http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/test.php, with a scroller but the links do not work in MAC IE 51, anyone have any ideas? Fix these problems first: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.m5i.com/m5hr/test.php

Re: [WSG] different hover for visited links than unvisited?

2005-02-09 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 17:16:41 +1000, Jason Foss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can the DOM check the 'visitedness' of an a element? no Is there a way to use the DOM to scan the page for visited links and assign them a class? yes, if you change link style using CSS :visited and look for this style in

Re: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-08 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:26:26 -, Patrick Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what the rational for dropping the start= from ol was, and at first glance it seems an odd thing to do. Like others have mention, I can see cases where it would be useful - a results list with 1,000 entry,

Re: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:19:02 +, Ian Fenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had I been doing it with HTML Transitional or similar, I would have displayed a second page of results as follows: ol start=11liFirst result/li liSecond.../li ... /ol Do you have any suggestions as to how I could achieve a

Re: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11

2005-02-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:07:39 +1100, Michael Cordover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An ordered list means there is an order, *not* that there is anything particular assocated with that order. So, think about it in terms of set theory, if you will. An unordered list is like a set: {1, 2, 3} which is

Re: [WSG] Browser Checks

2005-02-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:57:06 +0800, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really depends on the audience, the client, etc but I usually draw the line at 5th generation browsers (MSIE5+, Opera 5+, Netscape 6/7, Firefox, Mozilla, Safari, etc) You can totally ignore Opera 5 and 6. 92% of Opera

Re: [WSG] Flash, HTML Forms and Firefox

2005-02-03 Thread Kornel Lesinski
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:20:08 +1000, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible (without using flash transparency) to display html on top of a Flash Element in Firefox? In Firefox/Win and Opera8/Win you can if Flash has WMODE enabled. On Linux and in older browser versions WMODE is not

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