with find form place holders an irritant.
Roger
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Hi Andreas
Hi Andreas,
not sure about the article, but we do recommend to our clients that they
not use default place holding cahracters.
from what i have read on the various accessibility lists, it appears that
it is pretty safe to say that the checkpoint is no longer relevant.
but i may be
I honestly don't know which UA's have problems with inputs without
default text, but futher discussion of the WACG 1.0 until user
agents.. rules can be found at
http://www.juicystudio.com/tutorial/accessibility/interimsolutions.asp
The browser that parses out labels is Webbie. Download it and
Andreas
1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility
testing
2. what do you mean by password place-holder ?
Neerav Bhatt
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1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility
testing
I completely agree that automated accessibility tests are not efficient
enough to rate a website accessible.
I would recommend leaving them out, from my experience with blind users,
the placeholders cause more trouble than they are worth. quite often users
are not aware of them and as a consequence they will fill in an input
without first clearing the place holder, which may well result in a form
Right, Now I understand
The guidelines say all form elements need to have default text inside
them, but a form field with the type=password always renders as *
regardless of the content
I think commonsense should prevail and you should leave the password
field empty, otherwise you will
Place holder text is only required for textarea and text input:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#forms-specific.
The reasons are: it makes it easier to tab through inputs without having
to read/hear the entire form, and; some assistive technologies can't
find form's properly without it.
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Place holder text is only required for textarea and text input:
http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#forms-specific.
The reasons are: it makes it easier to tab through inputs without
