This is probably off topic, so please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was wondering if their is a screen reader friendly tutorial for Dream
Weaver 7.0 to create web standard web sites? Thank you.
Angus MacKinnon
MacKinnon Crest Saying
Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat
English - Fortune Assists The
On 10/10/05, Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:45:07 -0400, Christian Montoya wrote: Sounds like FOUC. I'll try to fix that... eventually. Thanks.Well, if you succeed, do publicise it!I haven't yet managed to kill the Safari FOUC :(
warmly,Lea--Lea de GrootElysian
On 10/11/05, Jake Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm getting a weird problem when I try and absolutely position somethingin a table caption. It all works fine in IE, but in Firefox if I try thepage below the caption is only as wide as the first cell in the table.
If I remove the display:block; on
It already has it, but firefox ignores it if the display isn't block,
and if it is it's only as wide as the first cell of the table (as I
just said).
On 11/10/2005, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/11/05, Jake Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm getting a weird problem when I
Well, I'm new to DW8 I used to hand coding but it's taking time to
deliver sites, so I'm learning to use DW, and it seems to be good, at
least till now.
Code wise it can do everything for you, semantic wise you will have to
be careful
and the internal validate doesn't work 100% properly with
I moved from Dreamweaver to hand coding because it was faster for CSS
layout based sites. For working on older table based sites then
Dreamweaver is handy for navigating around the nested layouts.
On a related note, can anyone suggest a text editor that features an
auto complete (for tags and
G'day
I'm getting a weird problem when I try and absolutely position something
in a table caption.
...
captionh5emTable 3.1/em Performance results:/h5
Have you tried validating the (x)html?
A caption can only contain inline elements and h5 is a block level element.
It's possible your
Hmm, you're right it's not valid. However even if I change it to an
inline element (I tried cite and del) exactly the same problems happen,
so that's not it.
On 11/10/2005, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day
I'm getting a weird problem when I try and absolutely position something
in a
On 11 Oct 2005, at 3:49 pm, Jake Badger wrote:
It already has it, but firefox ignores it if the display isn't block,
and if it is it's only as wide as the first cell of the table (as I
just said).
If you set the display value for the caption to 'block', then it is not
a 'table-caption' [1]
Hello,
I've a little problem with Opera 8.5 (mac version).
Last versions of browsers, like FF, Safari and IE, seems not having
the same problem (at this moment I've not checked the website with
older browsers).
Have a look at the website and at the CSS:
http://beta.ortelli.net/index.php
Samuel,
we are not talking about any version of DW, we are talking about the
latest version of dreamweaver, which seems to be promising, and seems
to be a good tool to deliver standards based sites.
I'm not sure about previous versions of DW, and what draw my attention
to DW8 is they are
div id=header
a href=home.htmimg src=logo.jpg alt=Company name //a
h1Company name/h1
/div
The problem here seems to be if the logo img also includes the company
name... So your company name is showed twice (in the image and in the h1).
How about this approach, no need for the company name to
Samuel Richardson wrote:
I moved from Dreamweaver to hand coding because it was faster for CSS
layout based sites. For working on older table based sites then
Dreamweaver is handy for navigating around the nested layouts.
On a related note, can anyone suggest a text editor that features an
I've been using DW8 (demo) since Friday and it's really very good.
I'm using it mainly in code view, but its design view does an excellent
view of rendering CSS layouts, a major improvement over MX 2004. It
means that I'm not having to preview in a browser as much.
While I almost never use it
Paul Sturgess wrote:
How about this approach, no need for the company name to show twice:
h1a href=/img src=logo.gif alt=Company name //a/h1
Personally I like the logo to show with styles off and if the user has
images off then the alt tag provides the text. I would be interested to
know
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:02:56 -0400, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I moved from Dreamweaver to hand coding because it was faster for CSS
layout based sites. For working on older table based sites then
Dreamweaver is handy for navigating around the nested layouts.
On a related
David McKinnon wrote:
the code DW
produces (in at least the two most recent versions) is very much
standards compliant as far as I can tell.
It's actually great that Macromedia has been so committed to web standards and
so responsive to their beta testers. WaSP has made Stephanie Sullivan
It's actually great that Macromedia has been so committed to web standards and
so responsive to their beta testers. WaSP has made Stephanie Sullivan and Jesse
Rodgers Dreamweaver Task Force members so they can continue working with MM on
the standards issue.
Hopefully soon the dwtf will
Townson, Chris
(I think Patrick might have been making a point
earlier that logos might come under the category of 'illustration')
The cons:
- I think that something that is text (i.e. the company name)
gets marked up
as an image
I would argue (without sounding too much like a marketeer
im suprised because I think the built in validator actually checks the
validity through the internet from w3c, doesn't it? So, I dont know how
it could not work properly. I may be wrong but that's what I thought
happened. Wha semantically doesn't it do in strict mode? Can you provide
an
On October 11, 2005 2:03am Samuel Richardson wrote:
On a related note, can anyone suggest a text editor that features
an auto complete (for tags and attributes). Also, if it had
Dreamweavers
ability to select blocks of tags (from open tag to close tag and
everything in between) that would be
Hi all,
January this year, when I was still working for Telstra I rewrote their
Universal Accessibility Guidelines document
http://www.telstra.com.au/standards/docs/accb_03001.doc. You may be
interested to have a look at the section on forms and the examples I wrote
there.
Regards
Graham Cook
Patrick Lauke wrote:
I would argue ... that a logo ... is more than just a visual
representation of text, in the same way that a head and shoulders passport
photo of a person is not just a visual representation of the person's name
Yes - I agree absolutely ... although my full length response
I would argue (without sounding too much like a marketeer or graphic
designer) that a logo (particularly if it's not just just text in
a specific typeface, but also includes swooshes, ticks, whatver)
is more than just a visual representation of text,
in the same way that a head and shoulders
Stuart Sherwood wrote:
One of my sites is triggering a bug in IE where a background image loads
and displays perfectly but dissapears after it has scrolled of the page.
If you scroll all the way to the bottom and then return to the top of
the page, the bg image is no longer there.
Any idea
Rimantas Liubertas wrote:
Some illustration: http://decaffeinated.org/archives/2005/09/27/logo
screenreader
level twolink Silhouette Take a look at the eight logos below; I'm
betting you're familiar with every one of them. Even if, at first glance,
you're a little unsure about a couple,
sounds a bit like the peekaboo bug. You might try the holly hack on the
problem element:
/* Hides from IE-mac \*/
* html #myBackgroundContainer
{height: 1%;}
/* End hide from IE-mac */
Stuart Sherwood wrote:
One of my sites is triggering a bug in IE where a background image
loads and
... however - I argue that the issue isn't so clear cut if we take into
account (and are concerned about) user environments like screenreaders /
text-only browsers: the logos then just become text and, perhaps, should be
marked-up as such ...
...
So shall we get rid of IMG element
So shall we get rid of IMG element altogether?
now, there's an idea ;)
get rid of object too whilst we're about it! :D
[... starts e-mail to w3c ...]
seriously: your page (http://decaffeinated.org/archives/2005/09/27/logo)
does provide an example of use of img / which can't really be argued
Townson, Chris wrote:
I think my point here is this: HTML is really a text-based medium. Images
have very little meaning, for example, to a screenreader.
Ah, and people call _me_ a purist! ;-) While its foundation or tool
set is text, it has included imagery for longer than it did not.
I've been playing with :after lately, although not for anything serious.
I've had some problems with positioning in Gecko.
:after generated content cannot receive some CSS properties, including
'position', 'float', list properties, and table properties.
---
Townson, Chris wrote:
In that case, what should the alt text for an img / which is your photo
be?
Would it have to be 1000 words ... ? :D (that's what longdesc is there
for, obviously)
Drunk and tired (heck, that could be an ALT in itself), but a quick reply:
- just because it may be
Jan Brasna wrote:
:after generated content cannot receive some CSS properties,
including 'position', 'float', list properties, and table
properties.
That's CSS2. Can't find that line in CSS2.1.
This seems to open for a bit more real use:
The :before and :after pseudo-elements elements
Hi Guys,
This is probably not the forum for this question, but it does relate
to accessibility and web standards to a degree...but, I've been
diagnosed with an Occupational Overuse Syndrome related injury and am
looking for ways to continue working as a web developer without
aggravating the
On 12/10/05 12:10 AM, Townson, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think my point here is this: HTML is really a text-based medium. Images
have very little meaning, for example, to a screenreader.
Then why is there an img element? And what about those who can't read but
enjoy using the internet
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 10:15:56 +1000, Brad Lucas wrote:
One suggestion has been to purchase some voice recognition software
for my PC so that I can reduce the amount of typing and mouse use. I
was wondering if anyone has any experience with this and coding?
I would suggest that most replies to
On 12 Oct 2005, at 8:48 am, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Jan Brasna wrote:
:after generated content cannot receive some CSS properties,
including 'position', 'float', list properties, and table
properties.
That's CSS2. Can't find that line in CSS2.1.
All those properties are perfectly fine in CSS
Google indexes web sites, so the information that they have would be
dated to when the contents were chached. For example if you google
'baseball' you will get a list of results. If you read it you will
notice that they have a date (all the ones dated were cached on 9 Oct
2005). The ones near the
Hi standardistas,
Is it possible to keep all content to a single page using CSS for
printing?
I have a client that made it a requirement. The client is fairly
pedantic.
Regards,
Martin
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Is it possible to keep all content to a single page using CSS for
printing?
body {font-size: 1px}
in a print style sheet ought to do it most of the time :-)
john
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Is it possible to keep all content to a single page using CSS for
printing?
Not to my knowledge. You can maximise the chances of it happening by
setting the font-size, padding, margins (margins can be negative) and
line-height of elements. But ultimately the amount of content in a page
will
It does appear that you've killed the Safari FOUC.
You should document this as appears to be somewhat of a mystery.
Nicely Done!
Steve Ferguson - http://illumit.com
On Oct 10, 2005, at 11:31 PM, Christian Montoya wrote:
Safari FOUC
**
The
My impression has been that the only reliable method for dating is in the actual content of the documents. Especially with so many dynamic applications being used for web sites, it's up to the site maintainer to include with each article the date when it was written and last modified. That seems a
Use this: printer {paper-select: xx-long;}And you can use the * usb hack for epson printers, since they don't like the xx-long property. I hate pedantic clients. -- - C Montoya
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Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
?? margin seems to work perfectly fine here. Both on Firefox 1.6a1
nightly trunk build and Firefox 1.5beta 2
http:dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/after.php (the word blah in a grey box
after each paragraph, and the word 'the End' as body:after)
Working at my end too - once I
Now for the honest answer, try removing anything on the page that isn't needed. Just print the actual content, and yes, make it small.
On 12 Oct 2005, at 1:00 pm, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
?? margin seems to work perfectly fine here. Both on Firefox 1.6a1
nightly trunk build and Firefox 1.5beta 2
http:dev.l-c-n.com/_temp/after.php (the word blah in a grey box
after each paragraph, and the word 'the
I first wanted to say thanks to Derek and Graham for providing all this
really great info.
Not that I'm fussed and purely playing devil's advocate but I cannot
help but see some kind of irony in having an accessibility guideline
document in .doc format. It's like the righteous word scribed on
Hi Nick,
Producing a .doc may seem incongruous, but it is just one of around 150
documents covering all Telstra's online standards including wap, platform,
styleguides information architecture etc. They are also a part of the
overall online documentation repository which includes many product
On 10/12/05, Nick Lo wrote:
I did want to comment that the form error in the label suggestions
Derek gave have really got me thinking about how my CMS returns users
to forms and alerts them.
Hi Nick,
That's good - that was my intent! Actually, that was my intent with most
of what is already
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